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This is the only thing that makes sense, think about it, I don't care how informed you are there is no way you could make so many decisions in the design and early days of bitcoin that eventually panned out to be right just by chance  :)

Just because you were ignorant of all the economic and technical brainstorming lead up to Bitcoin, over the course of decades, doesn't mean Satoshi was a time traveller.

Satoshi could be a man like Tesla.. that would amazing for us.  Men like Tesla come around once every 100 years.

You know, the intellectual difference between a person of median IQ and a chimpanzee is actually less than the difference between a person of median IQ and a genius (150+ stanford-binet IQ).

Only a time traveller would make a currency where

Only a time traveller would make a currency where:

- It takes 10 minutes for one confirmation of a transaction and you need at least 3.

- You need to download 10s of gigs of blockchain data and then verify it all before you can get started. All of this takes days and you haven't even done a single transaction yet!

- You need 10s of gigs of hard drive space and there's only so much pr0n you can delete.

- It's inflationary in the short to medium term but deflationary in the long term (if it survives that long).

You see a time traveller doesn't have to suffer any of the above. He can just hop into the future in his trusty time machine to avoid waiting. He enjoys the tech of the future which means petabyte hard drives so no need to delete anything. And he's paid nothing for his coins which might someday be worth trillions. It's the perfect currency for a time traveller.

Just because you were ignorant of all the economic and technical brainstorming lead up to Bitcoin, over the course of decades, doesn't mean Satoshi was a time traveller.

So the story is that someone came from the future created  established bitcoin and went back to the future to get his/her big fat check.
Hell yeah, I would watch that film. Maybe add some apocalyptic scenario at the end like the Paycheck

No, I think Satoshi's "first" future was the apocalyptic world, that's why he travelled back in time. See, in Satoshi's timeline, Bitcoin hadn't been invented before the extremely violent fiat economic collapse. Billions were killed in the nuclear war that followed.

So he traveled back in time to invent bitcoin 30 years before the collapse, creating a new timeline free from the apocalypse of his childhood. Maybe throw some aliens in there just to mix it up.

That is briliant, lets finance a movie with that scenario

We'll call it "Bitcoin: All your Coinbase are belong to us"

I mean look at all the alt-coins, don't say they fail because bitcoin is here or first to market etc, it can't be that simple?!?

We'll call it "Bitcoin: All your Coinbase are belong to us"

Actually, I heard that Satoshi is actually a neo-samuri.  In the year 2156, the Yakuza will have risen to global domination.  Without getting into too much detail (it's 142 years for Christ's sake) suffice it to say, China and USA take each other out financially, and Yakuza gains strength in the East finally bleeding into EU and demonstrating its power with a new holiday kind of like the Purge movie.

Meanwhile, a long forgotten splinter cell of Yakuza, unhappy with the direction that the NWO emporer is taking the civilized world, rebrands itself as the Neo-Samuri.  It relocates itself to the former USA and establishes a thriving underground stronghold using the cover of the Church of Latter Day Saints to recruit members and teach everyone how to tie really good knots.

For decades, the Yakuza had been using North America to test social, technical, and biological experiments before deployment to the rest of the world.  It was there that they created YHJ-43589, the first complete genetically synthetic human being derived from primordial soup.  They had been successfully creating livestock for food in this way for decades, but the human brain eluded them.  Resources waned for many years down to a single lab.  When YHJ-43589 had been born, it was just a footnote because the Yakuza authorities fully expected it to grow up trying to chew on grass or peck grain like countless others before it.

When YHJ-43589 showed promise a few years after its birth, a lab tech was so excited he got drunk one night and started telling everyone what he was doing and how a simple pheromone extraction from an extinct ant was the key.  The Neo-Samuri used this information to their advantage, and pressed the lab employees into making humans for them.  It turned out that YHJ-43589 wasn't just smart, it was a fluke.  YHJ-43589 was so brilliant, it figured out a way to tweak the human brain to its desire.  It desired change.  It desired Satoshi Nakamoto.

On February 11, 2186, Satoshi Nakamoto is born.  He can predict 10 minutes into the future.  At age 6, he uses chicken wire and parts from an old Sizolo machine to create a long range encrypted transmission device that the Neo-Samuri use liberally.  He dislikes cauliflower.

Satoshi was so brilliant that he would often argue people in circles, convincing them that they won his arguments.  He chose to walk to school instead of bringing his own lunch.  By the time he was 12, he had discovered time travel.  He was the perfect double agent, but he had his sites set much higher.

He was brought up to live the Neo-Samuri way.  Forced by the Yakuza into slave labor, he was forced to remove fly feces from pepper shakers using boxing gloves.  He desperately wanted a country for his people to call their own, and realized that he needed money to fund a full blown revolution.

On February 16, 2212, A fresh 26 year old Satoshi Nakamoto traveled back in time to create Bitcoin.  The reason we don't hear from him anymore is because he went back into the future to spend his bitcoins and wrestle a small part of the world from the clutches of an evil empire.

I'm sure he is not a time traveler. Time travel is impossible. What I'm sure of is Satoshi has very advance mind and can predict the future.

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In early 2010, Satoshi probably was responsible for selling those early coins (under a different name of course)

Time travel? No way.

Tesla was an alien, Satoshi too.

This is the only thing that makes sense, think about it, I don't care how informed you are there is no way you could make so many decisions in the design and early days of bitcoin that eventually panned out to be right just by chance  :)

If this is true, take for instance how he asked wikileaks to not use bitcoin for donations a few years back http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/16/i_saved_bitcoin_and_the_perfect_draft_of_history_says_assange/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/16/i_saved_bitcoin_and_the_perfect_draft_of_history_says_assange/)

Look at how the reward system for mining has panned out, look at what its achieved.

Look at how mass adoption is taking off just at the right time...

The more you look at the fine details and the events over the last few years the more you find yourself thinking "wow that was lucky", or "hey that worked out nice".
See?  ;D

I think satoshi has not disappeared, he's just gone back home "whenever" that is.... probably to enjoy his lil stash of bitcoins... 2020 maybe?

 Satoshi is illuminati confirmed.

Illuminati, freemason, skull and bones, lizard man, satan worshipper and a  baby eater too. 

Terrorist. You forgot terrorist.

Y'all mean terr'ist

I'm not sure Bitcoin is advanced enough to be evidence of time travel. The different concepts that came together to allow Bitcoin to work were already made and well established, Satoshi was simply the genius to blend them all together.

However, with the mining 51% pool problem, with the lack of anonymity problem, the scalability problem and with competitors claiming advanced features (Ethereum, Nxt) it doesn't make sense that Bitcoin is some perfect system that is from the future.

Bitcoin came right about on time, and was certainly not decades ahead, as all the technology that allows Bitcoin to work was already created.

I think if some software project came out of nowhere, and involved concepts and mathematics that were not known to humanity at that time, that would indeed be better for time travel conspiracies. :p

This is the only thing that makes sense, think about it, I don't care how informed you are there is no way you could make so many decisions in the design and early days of bitcoin that eventually panned out to be right just by chance  :)

If this is true, take for instance how he asked wikileaks to not use bitcoin for donations a few years back http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/16/i_saved_bitcoin_and_the_perfect_draft_of_history_says_assange/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/16/i_saved_bitcoin_and_the_perfect_draft_of_history_says_assange/)

Look at how the reward system for mining has panned out, look at what its achieved.

Look at how mass adoption is taking off just at the right time...

The more you look at the fine details and the events over the last few years the more you find yourself thinking "wow that was lucky", or "hey that worked out nice".
See?  ;D

I think satoshi has not disappeared, he's just gone back home "whenever" that is.... probably to enjoy his lil stash of bitcoins... 2020 maybe?

This is the only thing that makes sense, think about it, I don't care how informed you are there is no way you could make so many decisions in the design and early days of bitcoin that eventually panned out to be right just by chance  :)

If this is true, take for instance how he asked wikileaks to not use bitcoin for donations a few years back http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/16/i_saved_bitcoin_and_the_perfect_draft_of_history_says_assange/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/16/i_saved_bitcoin_and_the_perfect_draft_of_history_says_assange/)

Look at how the reward system for mining has panned out, look at what its achieved.

Look at how mass adoption is taking off just at the right time...

The more you look at the fine details and the events over the last few years the more you find yourself thinking "wow that was lucky", or "hey that worked out nice".
See?  ;D

I think satoshi has not disappeared, he's just gone back home "whenever" that is.... probably to enjoy his lil stash of bitcoins... 2020 maybe?

I have traveled through time to offer someone 10,000 BTC for two large pizzas.
PM me for details. ;D

Congratulations sir! you have just won the internet!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

DEY TUK ARR JOBS!

No, I think Satoshi's "first" future was the apocalyptic world, that's why he travelled back in time. See, in Satoshi's timeline, Bitcoin hadn't been invented before the extremely violent fiat economic collapse. Billions were killed in the nuclear war that followed.

So he traveled back in time to invent bitcoin 30 years before the collapse, creating a new timeline free from the apocalypse of his childhood. Maybe throw some aliens in there just to mix it up.

not funny
i transported there and ate half the pizza already

When I read the word traveller, I stopped.

I'm sure he is not a time traveler. Time travel is impossible. What I'm sure of is Satoshi has very advance mind and can predict the future.

so is this post about him going to in cryogenic and getting frozen?  I honlesty think since are technology is always going double the speed in a few years, we might pass on from bitcoin to something else after bitcoin gets one more rise.

Just because you were ignorant of all the economic and technical brainstorming lead up to Bitcoin, over the course of decades, doesn't mean Satoshi was a time traveller.

Anyone think that perhaps Satoshi passed away either naturally or by accident and that's why we haven't heard from him since?

Maybe he had a sort of Walter White experience and was given a few years left to live but instead of wanting to make a meth empire he wanted to create something truly amazing.

No one knew who he really was, so it could be possible that he was driving somewhere one day and was killed in a car crash, thus sealing his secret identity.

If he is dead, perhaps one day after an estate sale an archivist will be going through some old hard drives and find rough drafts of the white paper or even the stash of his mined coins.

Is Satoshi Nakamoto a person? I always feel it is a group and is not Japanese. How do you think? Is there anyone who has seen him? Or does this person really exist?

Is Satoshi Nakamoto a person? I always feel it is a group and is not Japanese. How do you think? Is there anyone who has seen him? Or does this person really exist?

cheexk this post to know who satoshi might be - http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/

for me it looks like "Satoshi Nakamoto" is more an computer scientists than a mathematician (or both). he is familiar with core concepts of computer siences and coding. his communication style has a bit of a patriarch or a leader something in the 30s/40s (he had an answer to everything ;) source: bookofsatoshi.com). his communication is direct and straight forward so it reminds me more to a German or Japanese than an US American or Brit.

GMX is a one of the first and oldest Email provider in Germany. If I saw his Email address for the first time I was really surprised he used this as an official Email address.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMX_Mail

so he could be a German CS professor but for this he is not greedy enough. ??? or did he destroy the private keys of the minted blocks to prevent himself to get in temptation?

the communication with Gavin Andresen immediately stopped as Gavin asked how to handle a request of the iqt.org. maybe this was the time he realized that it will becomes a huge thing.

if the thesis tends to the truth the main timeframe of his Emails should be an European or Asia timezone not a US timezone.

This link probably has the answers to those questions. Looks like every line is backed up by a published paper or archived email. That other link you had quoted was while the research was still going on(Szabo had studied and wrote on every aspect of that guy) that's what had threw us off. A software developer found a key that finally unlocked the puzzle.

http://originalcontroltheory.tumblr.com/

This link probably has the answers to those questions. Looks like every important line is backed up by a published paper or that person's archived email. That other link you had quoted looks to be wrote while the research was still going on(Szabo had studied and wrote on every aspect of that guy that link was pointing to) that's what had threw everything off. A software developer found a key that finally unlocked the puzzle.

http://originalcontroltheory.tumblr.com/

Note: Please read this next section until it makes sence:

Szabo “came up” with the technology that will become ethereum including smart contracts which was solely contingent on Satoshi’s work that Szabo never knew would be produced?

Smart contracts come about because Bitcoin is the beginning of the completion of a “Kula Ring”, a unifying solution that bridges among other things, game theory, encryption, economics, finance, programming, and law… there are not multiple random people capable of this…..

I read the whole 5 pages, I too think there are somethings which prove the time travelling thing. I liked the comment which said data time travelling. That would make alot of sense too. As in my knowledge there is a documentary about a time machine which is in working and allows atoms to time travel, I think this too started in 2009-2010. They too said the first contact from future will not be humans but data. Thats why we see the bitcoin started in 2008 while they were testing it. They also said that no one could travel back from a time when 1st time will be started. You can search this about on google.

There r lots of questions, Why 8 decimal place? This shows he kept in mind that in future bitcoin will become main stream. etc.

I read the whole 5 pages, I too think there are somethings which prove the time travelling thing. I liked the comment which said data time travelling. That would make alot of sense too. As in my knowledge there is a documentary about a time machine which is in working and allows atoms to time travel, I think this too started in 2009-2010. They too said the first contact from future will not be humans but data. Thats why we see the bitcoin started in 2008 while they were testing it. They also said that no one could travel back from a time when 1st time will be started. You can search this about on google.

There r lots of questions, Why 8 decimal place? This shows he kept in mind that in future bitcoin will become main stream. etc.

If TT is regulated or not, why didnt * go back and kill hitler or some other mass monster(s)?
Why not prevent lots of senseless deaths by inventing earthquake detectors or leaving more benevolent tech?

Well, Nikola Tesla had just as much insight into potential future impacts of certain techs and had comparable levels of impact on the world with his inventions (he could have had a lot more impact if he werent drowned by capitalism, eg his free electricity transmitter).
Tesla never claimed to be a TT, so if human genius can be as capable as he was, then I think Bitcoin could be achieved by a similar person without the need to 'know' the future.

That said I hope he is a TT, its way more interesting and also that way he less likely to spend his coins for a loong while:)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Tesla_colorado.jpg

The other thing about TT is that it begs lots of questions i love to think about:
is TT not regulated in the future? Was [t]{s}he[y]* a lone shark traveler just out to make themselves rich with pre-mining?
If TT is regulated or not, why didnt * go back and kill hitler or some other mass monster(s)?
Why not prevent lots of senseless deaths by inventing earthquake detectors or leaving more benevolent tech?
If * are just out to get rich, why not do something that is more likely to survive into the future like buy gold at 1$ per ounce(gold has stood longer test of time so far, BTC could be made illegal still in an unknown timeline - I guess this person cant be from a tooo distant future then)?
What other inventions were given to humanity without knowing who * is/are? If this is a solo actor acting illegally, how did they get away with it? Surely they can detect ST distortions?

Maybe * illegally travelled back, pre-mined enough to get rich without intending to return to their original time for fear of getting busted - but that would mean the BTC value gets high enough in this lifetime, and adoption gets widescale enough that * can withdraw them without causing a price crash, OR widespread enough that * can just live off spending them...

Now you got me thinking:p
 

Also makes me think of The Philedelphia experiment lol time travel and things of that nature