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Title: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Itsumo on February 21, 2015, 02:48:29 AM
The unusual behavior of 'Willy' - A Mt. Gox trading bot. (http://bitforum.info/t/wizsec-brought-more-light-about-mt-gox/312?u=thebitboss)

Do you think Mark Karpeles is behind this?

Do you think that because of the fact that Ulbricht is going to be sentenced soon, are they going for Karpeles too?


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Bit_Happy on February 21, 2015, 02:51:16 AM
Extremely old story.........
Have you heard about the brand new altcoins called Namecoin and Litecoin?   :D


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: monsanto on February 21, 2015, 02:59:49 AM
Extremely old story.........
Have you heard about the brand new altcoins called Namecoin and Litecoin?   :D

yea when I saw the title I thought this was going to be about the return of bitcoinbuilder  ;D. (who would'a thunk it -- bitcoinbuilder might be one of the few non-scammers in the bitcoin space.)


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: tins on February 21, 2015, 07:02:30 AM
Extremely old story.........
Have you heard about the brand new altcoins called Namecoin and Litecoin?   :D

Ha!
Wait a few months, the crypto world will go nuts over some puppy doggy.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: AGD on February 21, 2015, 08:16:50 AM
http://www.maniacworld.com/no-news.jpg

as in: http://www.maniacworld.com/no-news.html


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Brewins on February 21, 2015, 08:27:09 AM
How Ulbricht and Karpeles are related?

They are not in the same jurisdiction, and as far I know Silk Road was nothing close to an exchange


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 21, 2015, 08:29:51 AM
yes, mark has still the money.

yes, your news site advertising is pretty obvious.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: BillyBobZorton on February 21, 2015, 04:06:08 PM
Karpeles probably has all the money somewhere in the clouds.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: LewiesMan on February 21, 2015, 04:15:01 PM
Karpeles probably has all the money somewhere in the clouds.

Tatoo'd on his wrist, worth $150,000,000 or so at current rates.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: MilesJohan on February 21, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Karpeles probably has all the money somewhere in the clouds.

He probably mix mix mix and SOld!


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: MegaHustlr on February 21, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
Karpeles probably has all the money somewhere in the clouds.

He probably mix mix mix and SOld!

How does one mix several hundred 1000s of bitcoins though? Especially as a most wanted man in bitcoin.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: uvt9 on February 21, 2015, 04:55:12 PM
can we track down Gox coins ? I've never seen anyone doing this.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: koelen3 on February 21, 2015, 08:27:35 PM
can we track down Gox coins ? I've never seen anyone doing this.

I don't think we can
I don't see anyone saying here they are in so long


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Bit_Happy on February 21, 2015, 08:32:29 PM
Extremely old story.........
Have you heard about the brand new altcoins called Namecoin and Litecoin?   :D

Ha!
Wait a few months, the crypto world will go nuts over some puppy doggy.

I like puppies, that sounds like fun.  :)

<back on topic>
MtGox:
How come Mark K. is not in jail, yet?


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: tins on February 21, 2015, 09:53:02 PM
Extremely old story.........
Have you heard about the brand new altcoins called Namecoin and Litecoin?   :D

Ha!
Wait a few months, the crypto world will go nuts over some puppy doggy.

I like puppies, that sounds like fun.  :)

<back on topic>
MtGox:
How come Mark K. is not in jail, yet?

No clue, officially. Like most people, I believe he has access to millions and millions od dollars in stolen BTC. Therefore, has the most qualified attorneys keeping him free, for the moment.
My humble opinion.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: MilesJohan on February 21, 2015, 10:57:36 PM
Breakingnews Kerpeles owns BTER too  :P


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2015, 11:03:45 PM
Extremely old story.........
Have you heard about the brand new altcoins called Namecoin and Litecoin?   :D

Ha!
Wait a few months, the crypto world will go nuts over some puppy doggy.

I like puppies, that sounds like fun.  :)

<back on topic>
MtGox:
How come Mark K. is not in jail, yet?

It may be because they dont have proofs, that he stole that money.

YES, his system was bad and many people lost their coins, but he may not (or may ofc) stole them bud he did not do anything illegal until they prove that he has something to do with the money lost.
The second thing you have to remember is that he has lost a lot (and I mean a LOT) of money himself (from trades, ads etc etc)... it is unfortunate, but he is victim as well as any person with mt gox money stolen


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: readysalted89 on February 21, 2015, 11:04:28 PM
Extremely old story.........
Have you heard about the brand new altcoins called Namecoin and Litecoin?   :D

Ha!
Wait a few months, the crypto world will go nuts over some puppy doggy.

I like puppies, that sounds like fun.  :)

<back on topic>
MtGox:
How come Mark K. is not in jail, yet?

No clue, officially. Like most people, I believe he has access to millions and millions od dollars in stolen BTC. Therefore, has the most qualified attorneys keeping him free, for the moment.
My humble opinion.

Were there rumors he did a deal with the US to avoid prosecution in return for giving them the information they needed to find out who DPR was? If he did do a deal he would be immune from prosecution by the US. That still leaves the Japanese police who think Mt Gox was an inside job, but they're still investigating.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2015, 11:05:51 PM
It is also something called Presumption of innocence
  :-\
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: redsn0w on February 21, 2015, 11:08:34 PM
The fat guy named karpeles aka magicalTux will never go in jail. If he will put in jail I'm sure it will be an huge pump (and we will reach 1k dollars per bitcoin http://nodownloadzoneforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/Asd.gif).


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: neurotypical on February 21, 2015, 11:24:12 PM
Breakingnews Kerpeles owns BTER too  :P

It would be crazy if that was true.
Karpeles only owned MT Gox and has made enough money from that to retire for life.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: fatguyyyyy on February 21, 2015, 11:32:54 PM
ugh. stick with small exchanges like cointrader, coinchimp and localbitcoins .. the big ones are all scams


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: pereira4 on February 22, 2015, 12:25:46 AM
ugh. stick with small exchanges like cointrader, coinchimp and localbitcoins .. the big ones are all scams
In localbitcoins you can get stabbed by some thug. Everything has it's own risks.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Q7 on February 22, 2015, 12:45:21 AM
Unless you are saying that all the coins will get returned to all the owners.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: tss on February 22, 2015, 06:58:50 AM
Karpeles probably has all the money somewhere in the clouds.

He probably mix mix mix and SOld!

How does one mix several hundred 1000s of bitcoins though? Especially as a most wanted man in bitcoin.

no need to mix.  no one knows what wallets they're in.  they've been gone a very long time and since no "theft" was claimed we don't know from where to where they went.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: mitus-2 on February 22, 2015, 02:45:35 PM
Karpeles probably has all the money somewhere in the clouds.

He probably mix mix mix and SOld!

How does one mix several hundred 1000s of bitcoins though? Especially as a most wanted man in bitcoin.

no need to mix.  no one knows what wallets they're in.  they've been gone a very long time and since no "theft" was claimed we don't know from where to where they went.

yep true..there is no need to mix, we don't know where they are


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: onemorebtc on February 22, 2015, 02:51:18 PM
The fat guy named karpeles aka magicalTux will never go in jail. If he will put in jail I'm sure it will be an huge pump (and we will reach 1k dollars per bitcoin http://nodownloadzoneforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/Asd.gif).

reasoning?
i think that if he goes to jail we will see a huge dump (because he'd need money then and wouldnt be afraid that much if he get caught)

if he really stole it: i still think he could just be very very dump and bigheaded


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: gambit1 on February 22, 2015, 03:03:57 PM
Good to see Gox being discussed, from my point of view.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Beymond on February 22, 2015, 03:55:44 PM
They might just be going around him , seeing they got no other work other than distrubing bitcoin lads :(


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: jonald_fyookball on February 22, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
It is also something called Presumption of innocence
  :-\
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

even if he didn't steal anything (which I doubt), he should be guilty of criminal negligence because you don't let hundreds of thousands of bitcoins disappear...there is simply no excuse.  period!


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: thejaytiesto on February 22, 2015, 06:19:08 PM
Karpeles is hiding on his Tokyo mansion reading this thread and having a laugh.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: redsn0w on February 22, 2015, 06:20:48 PM
Karpeles is hiding on his Tokyo mansion reading this thread and having a laugh.

... and remember that he is visiting the forum, his latest visit here in the forum was the 20th Feb. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2134).


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: unsoindovo on February 22, 2015, 07:38:06 PM
Breakingnews Kerpeles owns BTER too  :P

but you are joking or what???

if you are not joking give us some links plz!!!

 ;)


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 23, 2015, 04:20:50 AM
Karpeles probably has all the money somewhere in the clouds.

He probably mix mix mix and SOld!

That's exactly happening right now. Has anyone wondered why the exchange rates have fallen by 50% during the last 4-5 months? Someone is dumping all the stolen Gox coins (BTC 850,000 in total). And that "someone" is none other than our fat boy Karpeles.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: uvt9 on February 23, 2015, 05:14:14 AM
How can 850k coins disappear without anyone knowing where are they in the blockchain ? This is ridiculous.

I doubt that any part of that amount was sold. They're just waiting to be sold. I remain bearish until i know the fate of this stash.

Edit: Last year Mt Gox announced it "found" a chunk of 200k coins. So where is this amount ? who is holding this ? How will this chunk be handled ?


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 23, 2015, 05:37:26 AM
How can 850k coins disappear without anyone knowing where are they in the blockchain ? This is ridiculous.

It is possible. Mt Gox has not released any details relating to the robbery, including the blockchain transactions.

What we know is that the coins were stolen from multiple wallets (hundreds, or even thousands). We don't know the addresses of any of these wallets, and Mt Gox is refusing demands by its users to publish the details. 


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: redsn0w on February 23, 2015, 06:27:26 AM
How can 850k coins disappear without anyone knowing where are they in the blockchain ? This is ridiculous.

It is possible. Mt Gox has not released any details relating to the robbery, including the blockchain transactions.

What we know is that the coins were stolen from multiple wallets (hundreds, or even thousands). We don't know the addresses of any of these wallets, and Mt Gox is refusing demands by its users to publish the details. 

They think that they aren't obligated to say anything, and this is true. Was the exchange regulated at the end? I think karpeles will never go in jail.


The fat guy named karpeles aka magicalTux will never go in jail. If he will put in jail I'm sure it will be an huge pump (and we will reach 1k dollars per bitcoin http://nodownloadzoneforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/Asd.gif).

reasoning?
i think that if he goes to jail we will see a huge dump (because he'd need money then and wouldnt be afraid that much if he get caught)

if he really stole it: i still think he could just be very very dump and bigheaded

It was a sarcastic phrase, no one know what will happen if karpeles will go in jail. It could be possible that it wont happen nothing.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: PenguinFire on February 23, 2015, 06:52:22 AM
We can't assume it was him but there defiantly should be some type of investigation into the matter.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 23, 2015, 07:06:09 AM
They think that they aren't obligated to say anything, and this is true.

The entire investigation in to this robbery is a sham. The Japanese cops are not taking it seriously.

I think karpeles will never go in jail.

He has got good connections with high ranking politicians and bankers (especially in Japan and France). So unlike Ullbricht, he will avoid jail.



Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: bcoinbilly on February 23, 2015, 07:09:02 AM
Not understanding why a bot was turned off when Japan slept has anything to do with theft. If a bot is turned on and off why is that a bad thing?


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Gotti III on February 25, 2015, 03:17:43 PM
Breakingnews Kerpeles owns BTER too  :P

It would be crazy if that was true.

Just like what happened to Moolah CEO who sold his stolen coins to a guy name LemonadeDev but turns out it was still him.  ;) ;)

Thuglife!


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: bloodDiamond on February 27, 2015, 08:51:40 AM
Breakingnews Kerpeles owns BTER too  :P

It would be crazy if that was true.

Just like what happened to Moolah CEO who sold his stolen coins to a guy name LemonadeDev but turns out it was still him.  ;) ;)

Thuglife!

i remeber...
...MintPal...

at the beginning this is really a good & nice exchange...

but we all know how that turned out...


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: koelen3 on February 27, 2015, 08:58:38 AM
Breakingnews Kerpeles owns BTER too  :P

It would be crazy if that was true.

Just like what happened to Moolah CEO who sold his stolen coins to a guy name LemonadeDev but turns out it was still him.  ;) ;)

Thuglife!

That guy had messed pretty big


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: fredthegambler on March 01, 2015, 06:23:46 AM
The unusual behavior of 'Willy' - A Mt. Gox trading bot. (http://bitforum.info/t/wizsec-brought-more-light-about-mt-gox/312?u=thebitboss)

Do you think Mark Karpeles is behind this?

Do you think that because of the fact that Ulbricht is going to be sentenced soon, are they going for Karpeles too?

Karpeles is long gone after Ulbricht was captured. So thats not him..


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: ShintoshiBTC on March 03, 2015, 04:13:41 PM
The unusual behavior of 'Willy' - A Mt. Gox trading bot. (http://bitforum.info/t/wizsec-brought-more-light-about-mt-gox/312?u=thebitboss)

Do you think Mark Karpeles is behind this?

Do you think that because of the fact that Ulbricht is going to be sentenced soon, are they going for Karpeles too?

This Mt. Gox issue is done. closed.
Authorities should be focusing their time on other issues that is helpful to us.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: globalbanker on March 05, 2015, 01:04:01 PM
The unusual behavior of 'Willy' - A Mt. Gox trading bot. (http://bitforum.info/t/wizsec-brought-more-light-about-mt-gox/312?u=thebitboss)

Do you think Mark Karpeles is behind this?

Do you think that because of the fact that Ulbricht is going to be sentenced soon, are they going for Karpeles too?

LOL.. Mark Karpeles is relaxing in his beach house and enjoying his money..


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Godforbit on March 05, 2015, 01:25:50 PM
How Ulbricht and Karpeles are related?

They are not in the same jurisdiction, and as far I know Silk Road was nothing close to an exchange

I believe i read in the silk road case that Ulbricht said Karpeles was the real DPR. I could be wrong tho.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Godforbit on March 05, 2015, 01:28:18 PM
Karpeles is hiding on his Tokyo mansion reading this thread and having a laugh.

... and remember that he is visiting the forum, his latest visit here in the forum was the 20th Feb. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2134).

He was active last night.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: ShintoshiBTC on March 10, 2015, 02:24:25 AM
The unusual behavior of 'Willy' - A Mt. Gox trading bot. (http://bitforum.info/t/wizsec-brought-more-light-about-mt-gox/312?u=thebitboss)

Do you think Mark Karpeles is behind this?

Do you think that because of the fact that Ulbricht is going to be sentenced soon, are they going for Karpeles too?

Lol.. That was just a desperate from Dratel.
Mark Karpeles is already very rich with Mt. Gox, why would he trade his legit biz with drugs?
That would be stupid.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Cray4Cryptz on March 12, 2015, 04:07:20 PM
The unusual behavior of 'Willy' - A Mt. Gox trading bot. (http://bitforum.info/t/wizsec-brought-more-light-about-mt-gox/312?u=thebitboss)

Do you think Mark Karpeles is behind this?

Do you think that because of the fact that Ulbricht is going to be sentenced soon, are they going for Karpeles too?

That is not a development and there wont be anymore development.

Karpeles is enjoying his millions in an island far far away.


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: RCHumphrey on March 12, 2015, 04:48:06 PM
Extremely old story.........
Have you heard about the brand new altcoins called Namecoin and Litecoin?   :D

I have a feeling you've just been lured by a troll...


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: Possum577 on March 12, 2015, 05:05:58 PM
Ross is a US citizen, Mark is not. So the US is not going to be able to prosecute Mark for anything...Mt Gox wasn't operated in the US!


Title: Re: New Development On Mt. Gox Scam
Post by: TaunSew on March 12, 2015, 05:12:49 PM
The unusual behavior of 'Willy' - A Mt. Gox trading bot. (http://bitforum.info/t/wizsec-brought-more-light-about-mt-gox/312?u=thebitboss)

Do you think Mark Karpeles is behind this?

Do you think that because of the fact that Ulbricht is going to be sentenced soon, are they going for Karpeles too?

That is not a development and there wont be anymore development.

Karpeles is enjoying his millions in an island far far away.

Err no he's not.  The fat man was last seen at a Twitch conference.  He also lives in one of the most expensive condo towers in Japan.  Probably can be seen if you hangout in the Starbucks he goes to.