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I would like this looking into by whom ever banned this for 14 days.

In the 3 years I have been here I have never had 1 ban and I would look into this please.

Sorry crazyearner, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
Insubstantial posts+sig ad (14 days)

I have never in the 3 years of been on here had a ban for this and I post a lot in different sections asking questions answering peoples questions and also asking a lot of different things to stating my view on different subjects across the forums

I would like to know who and why I have been banned and account locked for 14 days when I have done nothing wrong and you making claims of my signature been insubstantial and posts being insubstantial. If you are referring to punctuation and grammar with in my post you will see I have none due to being dyslexic. You will see with all my posts that are made on here I septate stuff with sections and full stops that is about it for me.


I have had my messages reviewed by admins of the signature campaign every now and again and also got others to make sure that I am not causing problems month and have been told that they have been fine and to make sure I am not posting out of content or out of limit.

Now you ban and stop my account and say I am posting insubstantial posts. Yet I have never had this problem in the past and yet you now come and ban me for 14 days after being in a signature campaign I would like this looking into as this is a wrong ban and mistake.

Have I ever posted 1 liners or like 3 to 5 words just to bump my post count up NO. Have I posted out of content No have I posted spam NO Have I broke rules Never in 3 years of been a member here.

You can check my posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68586;sa=showPosts on my account I might post a lot over the last few weeks and that is due to having more time off work and have been off work ill so what else better to do than to spend some time on here helping others or speaking across sections of the froums I enjoy to comment on.

Seems unjustified to me if these are indeed the entire facts and nothing is left out.

So what stupid did you do that such a serious thing happen to you? If you have been banned for 14 days, Badbear must have found your posts not related to the thread like the above comment.

Mostly people give general replies to posts which read "I'm banned" and this way, they try to boost their post count. If your reply isn't necessary, you should avoid posting it especially when you are a part of a Signature campaign. That's a lesson even I learnt.

sad to hear that but everyone have to face it maybe I will also get blocked after some months

I have no intention of doing that I posted on some of them in here saying not to do stupid things and not to brake rules. I had commented on an number of posts in here that a person was asking for account to be deleted and posted about how this can be done or maybe request to admins to block it and remove with no sign up on it.

I had made some comments about someone saying to me to to never use sig campaigns and responded pay me a 100BTC and I will stop using them as a joke to the user who commented above my post. I spend a lot of time on here when I have the time to come on and post about lots of subjects I like to take part in. I follow rules and make sure am doing nothing wrong. I even help and report posts that  are off topic and  been here for over 3 years or so or close to without 1 ban or warning is kind of unjustified.

Seems unjustified to me too from your posting history.

admins should take a review on their decision on banning your account then :/

You can try sending BadBear a message stating your reasons to lift the ban. I could just advise you to check your posts again and see if your reply to the threads you're posting in are really required or not. That will help to know what exactly went wrong that led to a ban. This can happen with anyone and sometimes a member may post as if he is posting for himself and not a signature campaign and then get banned. I read your posts and if you weren't a part of the campaign, there would be no chance for a ban.

It does not matter how long you have been a member here but your comments should add value to the discussion and not appear as if your posting for the campaign and making posts for the sake of posting. The MODs have become stricter these days and that's a reason they pay attention to most members of the campaigns.

I think the sig. campaign will be banned in the next few months. If someone *make* 20-30 posts per day he will risk to be banned, is that "serious" ? (will this post be considered insubstantial post + sig ad?)

Hay was just about to ask to speak to you. I make on average when busy posting about maybe 20 to 30 posts every other day  maybe 100 a week if that or 200 a month or so. With the amount of time I have been off over the last few weeks being on holiday from main job  I have been a lot more active on here and maybe make 20 to 30 or more posts per day or every other day too.

If you do get a moment please come on to irc BIT-X on freenode would like to speak with you thx. I also have a few ideas want to run by you and also a business proposal too if  would like to hear :)

I'm online now.

Thanks for coming online. Hope to get this matter cleared up and addressed with the mods or admins as this is way out of order for doing nothing wrong. I might post a lot of the time when I have the time to post but if am going to be banned for 14 days for posting too much then this is un called for. Anyway hope this can be looked into and sorted.

Thanks

I suppose an explanation was already provided to you, since you stated in your OP: Sorry crazyearner, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum. Insubstantial posts+sig ad (14 days). Also, I don't think it would be useful to know who banned you (if you are asking also this information) due to risks of abuse against mods.


I can see your alt account is already at Legendary status and you post a lot. I'm sure too mod also took this behaviour in account when dealing with ban.


I don't think knowning the name of the mod who handled your case could help you other than to harass him/her (i'm not saying you would do). The reason of the ban was already told to you: Insubstantial posts+sig ad. However, I looked at the post history of crazyearner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68586;sa=showPosts;start=0) and, I found a possible reason in March 19th posts since they were all (24) made in short intervals while wearing the bit-x campaign's signature.


I think signature campaign manager's opinion is binding only to their own campaign while referring to payments due. As forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) states: When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules. Also, IF the campaign manager who told you your posts were OKs is Bit-X's one, I think his opinion couldn't convince mods due to him having been banned recently apparently due to spam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=980861.0).


Mods recently started handing out harsher bans due to increased amount of spam. You could surely have noticed the spike of ban complaints in Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0) since then. While it's a pity to receive a ban such unfortunate event could be useful to you (as well to others users who get bans) to further improve their posting habits and standards & avoid future mistakes.


I checked it before posting here & my opionion is above. All I can say is to take a pause between posts to allow further reflection and longer intervals between each post. Also, I would use a PM, instead posting in a thread, just to ask for an update like in this case (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951758.msg10826080#msg10826080).
This is my opinion however, but You could try to politely ask after a few days in the ban to have your terms cut short. I'm not sure mods will agree with since hilariousandco once said (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996378.msg10824161#msg10824161) he never saw a temp ban reduced or revoked.

Thanks for the details posted. Even with what have done and indeed do post a lot  and sometimes a lot quicker as am all over the forums in many sections at one time reading though stuff and responding to them. Indeed I have seen a lot more bans put into action but still if they want to have posting restrictions then limit to how many post can be made per min or every few min.  Still tho  I have sent a message to bare to await the out come of this. I guess am not going to be posting as much in future and focus on my own project from now on.

Giving me a ban is one thing but banning me like this with the reason stated is uncalled for. I might of been on here for x amount of years and use to post a lot more frequent than now and never had problems from been in past signature campaigns and posting maybe 100 or more a day. I know theirs other who post way above this in signature campaigns yet they never got banned. So I am just asking what posts if any has caused this problem and to be reviewed given the fact of how long  I have been a member here for and not once broke rules.

 A simple warning or PM to me from staff would of been enough to say ok you are doing this or gone out of context here to understand where or what I have done wrong so I do not do it in future. And this is why I am funding it very hard to understand why I have been banned on my main account when have done nothing wrong.




Well if it gets banned then I think this will be stupid and a loss to signature campaigns if it does get banned then I sort of have an idea why it will happen not just to Bit-x but to others too and if it does happen and my thoughts are correct about them going then its safe to say it will happen to a lot more in the future.

Yes of course it will happen more and more times in the next few months and it is normal because more sig. campaign = more posts. Maybe in the next forum software it will be implemented this thing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=985516.0 and the various manager will choose only the "valid users".

Already read and commented on it maybe Bear angry at me for commenting of having such features or some alike on my own forums. Only way I will know is if I get a response from who banned me or a representative to answer for them on why my ban is put into place. And it seems so and looking more into it no doubt it will happen in the new forums however lot of people post daily even without signature campaign maybe should get banned too who knows but I await my response.

I think they simply need to better design their campaign to avoid incentives to spam posts everywhere. I think a simple and transparent way may be putting a max BTC limit to paid posts, like bitmixer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425135.0) and Bitcoin Scratchticket sig ad campaigns do. Also forfeiting sig ad payments due to enrolled users being banned could also help curb spam while keeping alive & legit sig ad campaigns. Concerned sig ad campaign managers could also donate campaign money forfeited from banned enrolled users to initiatives like Help the forum and earn Bitcoins! >>>>Increased the reward to 0.1<<<< (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918799.0) to help keep the forum clean.

Indeed. Even by just quickly glancing his past 2 pages, he seemed to be posting very good posts compared to the average member. I don't understand situations like these at all!
Neither is the number of posts high, nor are they lacking in quality. I've seen lower ranking members, with posts that are exponentially worse.
What's the deal here?

Do you have an Alt account that was banned? I'm not seeing a ban request for you. (SMF is bad so Moderators can't give temporary bans, so we have to request that an admin temp bans in a thread)

I've seen people wearing Bit-x signature that were making more than 30 posts in one day. For instance one of your posters made 39 posts today and the day hasn't ended yet. ;)
If the quantity was what made crazyearner banned there's more coming.

It is not *my posters*, I am only  "selling my signature space" to bit-x as you are selling yours to coinroyale. If someone is not "free" to make whatever constructive posts he wants then this is not a really forum (take it only as my personal opinion). I am still thinking the staff should ban or try to regulate all the various signature campaigns, that is the unique solution for stop the insubstantial posts for ever. 


PS: can you post the username of that user?

By your posters I meant other members of the same campaign. In other words you guys, the Bit-x promoters. I also think that people should be allowed to make as many posts as you want as long as they are on topic and longer than just a few words.
Why would you want the campaigns to be banned? Don't you support capitalism and the rules of supply and demand? They allow Bitcoin businesses to advertise, people to get coins and bring more new users to both this forum and BTC. A win - win situation if you ask me.

I can tell you that ATM he's sitting at 39 posts (made today). Shouldn't be hard to find.  ::)

Sorry if I seem arrogant, I didn't want.

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I don't want all the signature campaigns to be banned, maybe it is better try to regulate them. Yes I support the freedom of advertising whatever someone wants in the signature space (the problem here is that someone is paying me & you for post here in the forum, and this *generate* a lot of insubstantial posts and more spam by a lot of other users).

So if I quote you this post :


What do you think http://nodownloadzoneforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/Asd.gif?

And then ban the activity points. It is also making some people post useless things. ;)


Everyone Hero and Legendary,.. would be nice :D

I fine the entire thread filled with spam and you have created that thread. Sorry but I find it spam as one can just click the report button which isn't that tough but yeah, why they would do it? Making separate posts and reporting each user can help them increase their post count. They think of benefiting with their REPORT posts. The above quoted user also reported that user by making 2 posts.

Edit: If the signature campaigns are banned due to members spamming, then I can say almost all members are trying their best to spam and earn money from that. Sometimes their opinion isn't needed but they simply force it on others especially in the META section.

A single post isn't really going to result in your post count getting boosted. Of course, not all reports get posted in a thread. You highlight users who are explicitly spamming in a post, to ensure that your report doesn't get lost.

It is funny how people think that banning signature campaign will be salvation of this forum and then it won't be any spam. I wish for an experiment like that, let's ban signature campaign for a month and see if off topic section will die, and people will be posting only serious and wise posts in other sections, and not useless and stupid things in overwhelming quantity. And I am little confused as I think that op was banned without apparent reason.

OK so it is necessary to create topics reporting different users and it is all necessary as MOD does not give importance to the REPORT button. I wonder why mainly people who are a part of Signature Campaigns report there. Surprising. May be if they don't find the report button useful, reporting a user via PM would be an option but well leave it.




I can give an example of 10+ forums which do not have any Signature campaigns but have so many spammers who try to make one word posts, hijack selling threads, give useless replies and so on. May be ban those forums would be a great idea to reduce spam from the internet world? Some people spam for free as it's their hobby. Here newbies with any sig campaigns spam as they can't stop themselves.

I can think of a lot of places to that don't run them but have massive amounts of spammers. I f my ban is related to post quantity then I want this reviewing but still I have spoke to bear and how part of it sorted but still with no answer as to why I was banned in the first place and had no response in asking about it.

Guess am not going to get an answer as to why I was banned in the first place. other than the reason stated on my account

You say your 'main' account was banned in the thread title. Does that allude to that you have others? If so, were they enrolled on campaigns or banned as well?

I have one account only and that is crazyearner I made this account am posting on now to find answers. other than my crazyearner account I have no other account 1 account only and this am posting to find out what had gone on.

The time between the posts does not matter, according to one post made by a mod that I read, it matters about the quality of the post.

Of course, making posts quickly between one another is bound to lower the quality of the posts made, but if you can keep up the quality of your posts while posting quickly, it shouldn't be a problem.

Like others have stated, OP's posts are quite substantial IMO.

@OP: Have you tried to ask BadBear or theymos about your ban? I'm sure they will give you an explanation as to why you were banned.


It would definitely be nice to all be Hero and Legendary, but it would be hard to differentiate between users, and scammers could easily create alt accounts with no restrictions.

If it will turn true then he is also a "lier" and he deserved the ban, maybe the problem was that alt account (maybe hacked or something like that). It seems the admin has not replied here in public, perhaps he has contacted him through a PM.

If he got banned for his alts, it would state "ban evasion" as one of the reasons for the ban. I don't think OP got banned for his alts. Like I have said before, OP should contact an admin to find out why exactly he was banned.

No, if one of their alts was banned for spam, all accounts are banned for the same period. Its not ban evasion unless they continue to post outside of meta with another account.

I think that it is actually interesting that you found that specific quote. While at first glance this does sound like a fairly long post, after closer examination, it is really just filled with "jibber jabber"

This part of his post is really all that makes sense
This does not make any sense. It is nothing more then a bunch of words, that repeat the price quoted that heros tend to sell for. The italicized part is a completely different statement, and is really unrelated to the rest of his post.

I am not sure what exactly he is trying to say here. But it looks like he is trying to say "I might have to actually look into getting me another alt account if one is put up for grabs". However it could mean a number of other things. The grammar of this sentence is horrible, and even my "translation" does not use proper grammar. I think it is fair to say that he was trying to write this sentence as quickly as possible in order to fluff his post.

This sentence really does not make any sense. I will break it down in two parts below.
I think he might be trying to say that he has been involved in bitcoin for 6-8 months or more, but it is really hard to tell. If this is what he is trying to say then I am not sure what this has to do with anything. Other then that this is just random words
The crazyearner account has over 2700 posts. He might be trying to say that he would only need to make 600 posts in order to break even in buying a hero account, at the bottom of the quoted range of 1 btc, however even this would be inaccurate as 600 posts times .0013 per post would only work out to .78 BTC. The italicized part is really nothing more then words.

This appears to be nothing more then gibberish. He might be implying that he will list his account for sale, but this is contrary to what the rest of his post appears to be saying. The underlined part really does not make any sense at all.

Was quoting someone above me about saying they go for x amount as was considering to see my account been as tho got rid of my others I did have a number of accounts on here that where dormant and no longer used., 1 account got given to a friend another exchanged and another 1 sold just after I posted about asking.

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Need to check it out and see what it is upto and maybe get listed.[/quote]This appears to be nothing more then gibberish. He might be implying that he will list his account for sale, but this is contrary to what the rest of his post appears to be saying. The underlined part really does not make any sense at all.

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Might want to read what I said on it. I was saying it had been on bitcointalk for more than 6 to 8 month and was going to list it for sale.

Need to check it out and see what it is upto.  Meaning to login into it and see what status it has on it meaning what it is upto in terms of status.

I did have others but no longer have as they where passed on and not related or before any of this happened. I have since found out why I had been banned. Is sort of a stupid excuse to ban me for but it is post related and saying am making repeat/summarize of other peoples posts.

So because I post about or very similar to what other people have said I get classed as been repeated or summarize other peoples posts and get banned for it.

Guess I will await my ban to be removed and seriously consider posting elsewhere in future if this is how am to be treated as a member here. If I did not have signature campaign on I bet this would of never happened come to think about it I had been in several other campaigns and never once did this happen in the past. Guessing not liking it when people make more than 30 posts per day. Then again am not going to  argue over it or no doubt get banned for longer.

A question - Are all (detected) alt accounts explicitly banned?
In that case, the only way a person could evade his ban is by creating a fresh account. He would not be able to do it with his existing accounts.

Account now un banned. Locking topic and going back to my normal account.

Well looks like my bans reinstated and a misunderstanding by BadBear.

Looks like I will no longer be taking part as much as I use to on here as this is kinda stupid and out of order saying was a misunderstanding said sorry and reinstates but a reduction on original ban. I had done nothing wrong in my view and yet been told I am out order on my posts for saying my post are summarizing other peoples pots. Have already stated I have no intention of this and if I have done then already said sorry for this. To treat members like this wrong and no wonder people leave places like this. Am on the verge of doing exactly the same thing and just destroy the account and have done with Bitcointalk.

Strange.
I guess you served ~3 days when you were banned the first time.
Was the intention to reduce it to 7 days? If that is the case, you don't have too much time left to serve.

People should atually realize this is not a democratic forum where one can get their own point of view since there is already a general rules to follow


People leaving this forum will be because of this 3 reasons

1. They got scammed in this forum
2. They are pissed off since they got banned
3. People find that there isnt anything interesting left on this forum

You are perhaps an old member and higher rank but that doesnt actually means that you are more special than a newbie account, if admins finds out anyone violating the rules, judgement will be brought upon

Well still banned and was reduced to 7 days and had already served 3 days before and has been over 8 days and still in place.