Its because there will always be good and evil in any community,abusive and fair people simply as that.
One opposes each other because of their own motives,one seek power and one seek freedom.
Intelligent post. |
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I can't make it more detailed than that. Actually I received 2 merits more but the overlord took them away, afraid that his vassals would be overthrown. |
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These moronic DT members doesnt want to argue with our facts here,so they just want to forget what is being said here.
In all fairness; H8bussesNbicycles deleted many of their replies. Where is he anyway? Looks like he tried to start a fire and ran away from it. What a situation; if you cannot trust people with negative Lauda clique trust anymore, then who can you trust on this forum?  |
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Come on, do you really think that Bitcointalk staff is conspiring against you?
Definately not against little me. But for the scamming clique is thinkable. Nah, that was theymos giving the dogs a bone. Is stingers still a merit source?
Not anymore. That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality. Only because he was a source, I effectively undid those merit sends. If he had not been a merit source, I still would've blacklisted anyone who got into DT1 through that type of shenanigans. I hadn't read into the thread deeply enough to see that stuff. Those are better arguments against the trustworthiness of H8bussesNbicycles & co., but note that the current negative-trust-ratings were sent long before that. Before February, the thread looks like politics to me. So now the overlord is interfering with his own setup systems because they don't do what he likes? [sarcasm]What a decentralized and democratic forum this is indeed. [/sarcasm] |
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About meriting, surely, it wouldn't be considered manipulation if awarded to good posts, regardless of whether the poster is an "undesirable"? In this case a thread like this would suffice: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0 - where posters can report good unmerited post and anybody can merit them if they choose to. The moderators already started to (anonymously) de-merit us.  |
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Theymos to me is not dirty or corrupt
To me he is. All the trust system and merit system designs were and are constructed to keep the scamming clique on top a the hierarchical ladder, even at the cost of the on this forum well cherised decentralisation. He's not a total idiot, is he? He can see the faul games that are being played on this forum. He's fully aware of it, no doubt. And he supports it to the full! He's got no principles and no integrity. Sad but true. |
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I don't care who you're trying to vote out of DT but you have defcon23 in your trust list. He's a known scammer who tried selling people silver plated bars claiming they were .999 silver bars. You are proving Lauda right by having people like him in your trust list.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Lauda is a proven scammer in so many ways; escrow, trust, merit; you name it. And being such a scammer Lauda can never be proven right, exactly because the opposite, his wrong doings, have been proven. Lauda's simply the biggest scammer on this forum and thus has to go first. The rest is small talk. |
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pms coming of supporters adding list but stay private
progress
Happy to read about that. This was actually supposed to be a decentralized and democratic forum, however members have become affraid to speak out their opinion openly out of fear of the clique of trust scammers. |
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I have never seen anything like this before in Reputation. Account Deena woke up after 5 months, and from where are all these newbie accounts coming from... After Lauda got off DT things were quiet and peaceful around here and I was sleeping the sleep of the innocent. Then Theymos decided to shake things up again, rather rudely. That's what woke me up. I had preferred to stay asleep. |
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I don't blame them though, its all on theymos for allowing criminals run riot on here.
I blame both. Theymos for not properly and honestly governing this forum and the trust and merit scammers for damaging others for the sake of their own benefit or even just for fun. |
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This would work? Well, it's worth a try, and your attempt is worth some merit.  |
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Ah, I only today noticed this.
Let me summarize a couple of facts regarding this matter.
Fact 1: Theymos expressed several times his discomfort with the centralisation of trust on this forum.
Fact 2: During the whole period where Lauda had positive (DT) trust, where trust was centralized around Lauda, Theymos never took action for decentralization of trust.
Fact 3: It is only after Lauda got negative (DT) trust that Theymos decided to change the trust system.
Fact 4: After changing the trust system Lauda has again positive (DT) trust.
Fact 5: Theymos did not fully decentralize trust, but decentralized it only as much as was needed to get Lauda again in positive (DT) trust.
Fact 6: With full decentralization of trust Lauda would have had negative (DT) trust again, but Theymos did not fully decentralize trust.
I expressed it before; this forum is no less corrupt than many of the crypto scams that are advertised on it. It is no wonder that more and more serious projects ignore Bitcointalk. People are getting aware of the corruption and being associated with Bitcointalk nowadays gives projects a bit of a shady reputation.
Bye bye.
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Wapinter was also the bounty manager for the scam project World Coin, about which he notified bounty participants: http://archive.is/b2SM5. |
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Well, rest asured. Wapinter is red again after suchmoon took proper responsibility. Now Lauda should take responsibility by stopping his cooperation with Wapinter and of course in this thread by posting the requested information. Cooperation with a scam posting bounty manager and running a scamming escrow service (and a whole lot more). And I get tagged for understandably calling Lauda's nature 'scammy'? This person has so much scam in his aura that he really and finally should be kicked out of DT. Or is he going to post the requested information here proving his escrow innocence? |
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Please refrain from tying yourself to theymos and Satoshi, you are just a random dude on the internet with no actual job other than using your position to join signature campaigns and run them as well to earn your living. we just don't know what else you have done in secret, only God knows that and yourself, someday you'll have to answer for all the sins.
Could some merit source please merit this brilliant post? |
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Wapinter used to be tagged red. Do you have a screenshot or an archive about that? It may be handy in other threads. He was probably 'untagged' because he now cooperates with Lauda in bounty campaigns. You can send his former red tag proof to me through PM, otherwise there will be complaints about going off topic here. this is not about Lauda. This is about what happened with the NVO money and what the escrows did. And there where three (four) of them: Lauda, MinerJones, Blazed and (CoinPayments).
This is not about some abstract escrow service either. It is about the escrow service and therefore also about MinerJones, Blazed and Lauda. Team members of scam projects are also not considered as innocent. Right? Back to the topic and waiting to see Lauda stats.
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Never mind the fact that you used the "find" feature and searched for merit to which you would get duplicate results on individual feedback comments. Even if I'm generous and let you have that number of 63, if you compare that to the number of negatives that The Pharmacist has sent out in total, then these instances make up a small amount. Hence, rarely.
I could refute this shaky defense. It are the same members defending each others lies and incoherencies over and over again. But I respect and agree with the quote below: back to topic please. then still no answers.
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This isn't a decentralised forum and never was. It's a centralised one with owners and rules in an attempt to keep order, only the limited amount of rules aren't being enforced much and people are bending and breaking them in an which way they can, and as such the forum has become unfit for purpose. Merit was a way to try combat the abuse of account farming but it needs some adjustments and other rules or restrictions need to be put in place.
The problem is that Theymos can't make up his mind whether he wants to run the forum centralized or decentralized (or rather the problem is that he doesn't make it run simply centralized, because the forum technique is not suitable to run it decentralized). He seems to prefer it decentralized, given subjective implementations like the trust en merit systems. He also expressed his irritation about the centralized cluttering of trust (which apparently isn't the way he wanted it to be). But then he does nothing to bring about a change. And at the same time there are some rules and some moderators, which is again a move to centralization. That's why I wrote several times in different places that the forum governance isn't executed from principles. It is patch work with a bit of rules here, a bit of merit there, a patch of trust, a patch of moderating, patch, patch, patch. It's a big mess! And a clutterance of long standing members are taking full profit from the situation. But perhaps that is the way Theymos wants it because perhaps he profits from it too. Who knows what's going on in his mind? [EDIT] This forum really needs some professional updates and some clear, intelligent principles.
I don't really agree with that. Olichargy Oligarchy by its delineation as per wikipedia a form of power structure in which power rests with a small number of people, may be distinguished by nobility, wealth, family ties, religious or military control. Have you seen people controlling the merit system? People are controllng the merit system as merit sources. Just as people are controling the trust system through DT membership. I see lots of good posts which I cannot merit because I ran out of merit. I also see plenty of trustworthy members who's trust display won't change when I, and a thousand others, tag them positive because one DT member decided to tag him/her negative. That's olichargic oligarchic rule. A humble advice, merit is hard, merit ruins life, merit is good and blah blah blah- it is all in your mind.
Whatever your mind has defined, it will be your reality.
But truth and reality simply aren't in the eye of the beholder. They stand independent. |
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