I would not advise myself to get involved in such bets. And also the big problem is that bookmakers will place a limit on your account, and then you have already placed a bet with bookmaker A and you can no longer place the required amount with bookmaker B. Bookmakers are known for absolutely not wanting these types of players. There are even known situations where they have closed player accounts. Arbitrage betting also has nothing to do with gambling anymore, in principle it is a form of cheating and it is only a matter of time before you get into trouble with it.
Arbitrage betting indeed is a risk free way of betting. I have been doing that myself for some time. But like you say at the end it can be very risky. In every arbitrage bet there is a risk involved when one of the involved bookmakers changes the odds while placing, do not accept your Betsize,.... Since then I got involved more into valuebetting. Value betting can cause downswings but at the end in the long term it should be profitable cause you constantly beat the closing line value. Only downside on the valuebetting also is that after a while betting restrictions and limitations on several bookies can appear |
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If I was you I would have a look at https://betinasia.com This is a broker service. I had the same problem. Betfair got restricted in my country and also had to look for other options. Betinasia offer orbitX through their broker service. So basically you open an account with betinasia and pass their kyc procedure. After depositing min 100 you can get an orbitx account. But the account is not on your name but it's one of 100s of their broker accounts they have with multiple bookies. And biggest advantage of using orbitx through betinasia. orbitX is powered by betfair. So it uses the same liquidity on the markets as betfair. So you will never have any issues with liquidity. other advantage is that betinasia allows BTC, ETH and LTC deposits If I was you I would get more into that. cause there are some crypto betting exchanges but most of them lack in liquidity or do not offer in play trading or cash outs. I disagree. This isn't a bad recommendation, but most crypto gamblers don't prefer providing their KYC and going though this lengthy process in my opinion. Some even fear losing their funds for various shady reasons to such brokers. Betting in Fairlay is way better in comparison since they don't require KYC and their liquidities are decent too based on my experience with them in recent years. I am using betinasia for 2 years now and always received my withdrawals same day as requested. They have no reason to hold your funds cause such broker services have deals with all bookies and make a percentage on all bets placed through their broker accounts. And if OP has used betfair in the past then I do not think he has a problem with kyc verification. As betfair sometimes also requests some id and POA verification |
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You people advising him to try other "casinos" or sites like stake and so on are totally missing the point.
He is looking for a betting exchange and not a bookie/casino site.
indeed. I just suggested him to take a look at betinasia.com it's a broker service where you can use a broker account. I got restricted on betfair myself when I moved back to Belgium. But through Betinasia I can trade sports on orbitX (which is powered by betfair BTW) So it is exactly the same liquidity. Only disadvantage of orbitX is that they have a higher minimum betsize and they do not offer lay bets on horses if I remember well. But I only use it for football and tennis anyway |
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Back in the days Betfair was allowed in my country I used to do a lot of sportsbook bet trading but since it has been forbidden I haven't found any other real good alternatives. I was wondering if any of you guys know any Sports bet trading crypto site similar to Betfair?
If I was you I would have a look at https://betinasia.com This is a broker service. I had the same problem. Betfair got restricted in my country and also had to look for other options. Betinasia offer orbitX through their broker service. So basically you open an account with betinasia and pass their kyc procedure. After depositing min 100 you can get an orbitx account. But the account is not on your name but it's one of 100s of their broker accounts they have with multiple bookies. And biggest advantage of using orbitx through betinasia is that orbitX is powered by betfair. So it uses the same or practically the same liquidity on the markets as betfair. So you will never have any issues with liquidity. other advantage are that betinasia allows BTC, ETH and LTC deposits and withdrawals you can transfer funds from your BIA (Betinasia wallet) to your broker accounts in minutes disadvantage. as per agreement with betfair orbitx is not allowed to offer lay bets on horses. all other sports you can back or lay. my suggestion do not use the inplay cash out button but always green manually. noticed that cash out in play sometimes takes a while If I was you I would get more into that. cause there are some crypto betting exchanges but most of them lack in liquidity or do not offer in play trading or cash outs.  |
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I don't think this fits perfectly in the gambling discussion board (correct me if I'm wrong), more like it fits in the Altcoin Discussion since Sorare is a game based on Ethereum's blockchain technology and recently they partner with La Liga to provide NFTs to the players. suits in both I guess. In my opinion beside the wonderful game and everything around they provide for me I seen sorare as a real gamble as well. I have seen cards purchased on a daily basis for thousands of not knowing if they will hold same or increase in value over time. For example I have seen a limited cards (yellow one which have a 1000 cards cap) of eden hazard going for almost 1500. If he gets injured like last year then its a serious gamble in my opinion |
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Are there other people that love to get in sorare but find it to expensive to start seriously?
This is the first time i have really heard about this fantasy game of football called Sorare, i think its very wonderful. But for the starting price, 250-500, i think since it is something that has the potential to give you money, the entry price has to be high to ensure that not just every tom, dick and harry can join in. you can always start for less. But knowing that there are insane prizes for most cards involved it's for me personally the minimum amount for to get more seriously into it. now I am more having some fun with some spare cash |
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Recently I have been getting deeper into sorare.
I love crypto, I love fantasy soccer. So this would be a perfect match for me. I have been playing around with some pocket change but I noticed that if you want get in more serious and really want to make some money out of it you already need 250-500 to set of in a decent way.
As I do not have my desired amount of money to put in already I started of with a lower amount and try to make some money on buying and directly reselling the cards for a small profit to build a larger balance in that way.
Are there other people that love to get in sorare but find it to expensive to start seriously?
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hi OP, do coinroyale (bigbookie with old) has a license? So that people can trust or not if that's their trust criteria.
As it is a telegram betting app I am pretty sure there is no license |
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will be a hell of a job to get everything done since the odds are changing constantly with the value in it. but that is life for to take challenges and the sky is the limit
hope it is a success i want to try to laying some correct scores
it certainly is a hell of a job. But if they can create something that can compete with the fiat betting exchanges like betfair, matchbook or Smarkets and be able to keep their commission at 1% then I am sure a lot of regular fiat sports traders will have a go at this Hey again! Yes, "hell of a job" covers it  Building liquidity is the key challenge, but that in turn depends on improving the product - stability, speed, features, sports supported. As you can see from our answers to your questions, there is a lot on our list, and we won't be matching the breadth of offering of the exchanges you mention on day one. But we will launch with a strong core product, and a good understanding of both the crypto and betting exchange spaces. We hope you will try Exbet out, and keep asking the tough questions  I certainly will. I am very interested. I gave up 'gambling' quit some time ago and I am fully into sports trading for some time. And a decent crypto based sports exchange is just the thing I was waiting for |
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will be a hell of a job to get everything done since the odds are changing constantly with the value in it. but that is life for to take challenges and the sky is the limit
hope it is a success i want to try to laying some correct scores
it certainly is a hell of a job. But if they can create something that can compete with the fiat betting exchanges like betfair, matchbook or Smarkets and be able to keep their commission at 1% then I am sure a lot of regular fiat sports traders will have a go at this |
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couple questions:
- are horse racing and dog racing included?
- Do cash outs in play work same as for example on BetFair
- does exbet also offer graph like betfair?
- does exbet offer options to for example connect with the well known trading softwares like bet angel or geek toys?
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What if Soccer betting is consider as a trading investment just like the stock trading or Forex trading rather than a game of chance (gambling) ? Soccer bet trading is one of the most lucrative online businesses if you have the right tips and strategies. I created this thread to start a soccer trading investment tips to help generate passive profits rather than gambling without having any strategy or plan.
This is just 5 days trial......
The tips will be strictly 2 odds (95% ) with 5 days investment plan:
Start up investment capital = $10
Day 1= $10 * 2 = $20 Save $5
Day 2= $15 * 2 = $30 Save $10
Day 3= $20 * 2 = $40 Save $15
Day 4= $25 * 2 = $50 Save $20
Day 5= $30 * 2 = $60 Save $60
Total = $110
DAY 1 Tips
England Championship playoff
Brentford Vs Swansea City ( Team 2 over 0.5 ) = 1.63
Italy Serie A
Cagliari Calcio Vs Juventus ( Team 2 to win either half ) = 1.34
Total Odds = 2.184
I do not see anything about trading or investing in this strategy of you but just a regular gamble. you just gamble 5 times in a row on 2 odds or higher and hope they all land. But I do not see what this has to do with trading or investing.... it just stays gambling in the way you approach it |
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again not much football today but was able to grab a small opportunity to lock and secure some guaranteed profits.  |
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Even this is the same function with GT you can hedge the same winning profits on all of 3 events (and not have as seen in this example more money in draw... Strommen match)
I think this is just a matter of the odds rising while doing the cash-out. In Strommen match Orbit/Betfair makes back-bet for like 5.6 for the draw, but it actually gets matched at 6.0 (when the odds rise/drop in your favour, it gets matched; when it's to your disadvantage it fails). But I agree of course, that GT is way better, faster and gives you more options to plan hedges Perfect! You understand my point! Sometimes you can hit different odds! "ok I will win more in case of a draw" but if you're trying to get "all green" and maximize the winning options in ALL 3 events in this case you're penalized. With GT this doesn't happens, and always you can set up BEFORE your cash-out option in BF ! Anyone can ALWAYS create their cash-out option even without a SW or accepting BF option. But it requires time and to be able in math (fast!) calculation (personally I wouldn't suggest) I used to use geek toys as well for horse racing. But same issue as you. Due to my current location I am not allowed to play on betfair. Beside geek toys I use couple other softwares as well. I loved scalping the horse racing pre race and than hedge my profits over all horses to make a guaranteed profits. Perfect way to make money from horses even if you do not know shit about it. So now I am obligated to use orbitx exchange through a betting broker. I use BetInAsia as they also accept BTC as deposit and withdraw option. Only shit is that you can't lay horses anymore. I used to play 'lay the field' plenty of time. I scrolled through above conversation. I agree that playing 'lay the draw' prematch has not much use. I always wait at least until half time and then check the stats. Below you see one of the few games that triggered me to lay the draw at halftime yesterday.  BTW I like your approach to lay the U4.5 @1.05. its indeed a small risk for a huge reward. I very often also lay at extremely low odds. if for example a team is up by 1 goal difference and I see the other team is pushing then I sometimes lay the leading team in 86th- 87th minute. Lately there always is about 4-6 minutes extra time. Which leads the loosing team that is pushing still has 8-12 minutes to score the equaliser |
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not much football today but yet we still were able to secure a guaranteed winner. 17 guaranteed no matter what the outcome of the game will be at full time.  |
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check my previous post about the Swansea-Brentford game. Another profitable trade. I layed the draw at a 1.81 odd with a 6 stake. So my liability was only 4.86 that I could possibly loose. I cashed out and hedged my bet in this way to secure a guaranteed profit of at least 4.21. So this means I almost hit 100% profit on this trade   |
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and another profitable sport trade on football.  The winnings/profits do not look great..... but tell me. Is there any market (crypto/forex/indices,...) where you take 10-15% profits on practically all your trades..... I do not think so. So this is only a 100 account I started with and after 2 days of trading this account my balance is almost up to 130 BTW next game on my radar is Swansea-brentfort. Not much action in the first half but enough shots to convince me. And second half already is underway for 15 minutes with a missed penalty + a red card for Brentford. So I seems a good pick for laying the draw to me. |
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Secured another guaranteed profit on 1 of the matches I followed. this games statistics didn't really meet my qualifying criteria but their previous games lead to high scoring games. So I decided to lay the draw here as well just because I was pretty sure one of both would score another one.  Want to learn more about trading on sports.... just keep following this thread. I will regularly post more successful strategies that I am applying myself on a daily basis |
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another successful trade on the Liverpool game. No matter how the match ends I will lock in a 14 profit. Just love it. I don't need to keep an eye on the game and just can go on to the next one and try to scoop some profits in the next trade  |
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I would like to briefly explain my own football betting tactics by stating that the sharing of information and experience in the subject and which is conveyed to us is extremely beneficial. As a gambler who usually prefer live sports betting, I bet in two different ways. My first type of bet is to interpret the match I watch and bet according to the estimates of these comments. This is definitely a very useful method, and it often helps to win many bets that I have played this way. The second type of bet I use is my method of making predictions entirely instinctively. Depending on the elapsed time, score and statistics of the game being played, I can easily say that I have achieved an average success rate of around 70%, although this method, which I bet on, does not help me gain so often.
To give additional information about my second method, for example, if at least 1 or 2 goals were scored in the 25th minute of the match played by two good teams, I predict that there will be at least 2 more goals but I do not follow the match. Besides, I prefer to make different bets based on other statistics besides goal bets.
Everyone has its own methods and strategies. I used to have lots of betting strategies myself. But since I switched to sports trading I use entirely different methods. I used many pregame in inplan strategies. But since the past 6 months I entirely switched to sports trading and to keep myself entertained I ask some fun accumulator bets on The +2.5 goal market and FHG market and I do some pool betting in between. But 99% of my time and mindset go to dedicate to trading the sports markets |
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