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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: Today at 04:20:10 PM
That's right, children don't understand what is Good and what is Bad at all. Nature has arranged their minds in such a way that they simply imitate us, adults, and they have such a concept of what is normal and right.
Therefore, it is very important to gamble when the children are not at home or they are sleeping, so as not to form a misconception about gambling. It's quite easy to do, and then you won't have to worry about us setting a bad example for them.
Children, of course, all they think about is playing because the world of children is the world of play, of course gambling which is a game can make them interested, because with its form it is a game, it is clear that children can be interested in gambling carried out by adults even though they are children. -Children will not think about their finances where gambling involves money as the main tool. with those who cannot yet differentiate between good and bad, of course that is true, therefore education from parents is very important. with parents who can educate their children well, perhaps they will be able to avoid bad things in the future, even though the surrounding environment will also influence them in the future.

It's true that we should not gamble in front of children, even though they don't fully understand it, their interest can be a trigger for them to do it. Good parents will certainly teach their children well and avoid negative upbringing that could destroy their future.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: Today at 03:55:36 PM
Afraid to get addicted - dont gamble. Pretty simple. Getting addicted to something is individual problem. There are people who gamble for many years and still not addicted. There are people who have lost their first bet, now chase that loss and all they think is how to stop this and end with profit. Imho it is impossible to tell when or after which bet a switch in brain will trigger and person get addicted. Important notice - repeatedly doing something does not mean addiction. Habit is not an addiction.
Addiction can still be avoided by those who can gamble wisely in all matters such as their budget, time, or actions. but defeat is inevitable. So maybe it's more accurate if you're not ready to lose or lose money then don't gamble. Gambling addiction is of course a consequence that will occur if they gamble excessively, such as with their budget or actions that exceed their limits. also with losses that are certain to occur, it will make them addicted to gambling if they are not ready to lose money or are not ready to lose.

with those who gamble or make bets for the first time, the chance of becoming addicted is very big, especially if in their first gambling or betting they get pleasant results such as winning, of course brain changes will occur where they can think that they can make money by gambling and Of course, that is wrong thinking because it will only make them addicted or addicted to gambling Maybe the key is that they have to have good self-control and if they don't have it yet, they have to be able to learn to control themselves so they don't gamble excessively.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 23, 2024, 09:59:26 PM
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We heard the same thing last season after dashing out the trophy to Manchester city that they are coming stronger this season but the same thing happened and they have started saying it again. I believe series of lessons have been learned and they will probably reinforce themselves in the upcoming season likewise Manchester city. City too can not remain stagnant without restrategising to defend the championship next season. Irrespective of what happened now and what will happen in the coming season, these teams including Liverpool have make premier league interesting with their fight, dedication and talent showcase and everything team deserve to be respected.
As this opportunity has be given to Manchester city this season again they should read for the next coming season. Because it will not be easy for them since every clubs will like to win the league next year, in my own view a teams like Liverpool and Arsenal are going to team up to make compete with the manchester city to prevent them win next the league in coming season. To be honest even other Liverpool show much talent to win the trophy but it couldn't happen due to their inconsistent.
As long as the conditions of some clubs remain the same, the competition for next season will also not be much different where there will only be a few clubs that can keep up with Manchester City with Pep later.
Currently there is little concern about Liverpool which we know that they will experience a transition next season with a new coach. Similarly, Manchester United and Chelsea are still a lot of updates if they really want to compete in the championship and it looks like this is still difficult for Chelsea and Manchester United to do next season.

Some dark horse clubs that are expected to be able to trouble such as Newcastle and Brigton also this season they are a club in pain so that indeed the last hope is Arsenal.
It's just that with Pep's strength in training and Manchester City players who are above average it clearly becomes difficult and surely Manchester City are the strongest candidates again even though I don't expect them to win next season but their probability is very strong and cannot be denied.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: May 23, 2024, 09:38:38 PM

I think Madrid can find some players as coatings so that losing Kroos next season will not affect Madrid's midfield too much.
Ancelotti can always think of his own way and that cannot be predicted so we only need to see what steps Ancelotti will take with their current conditions.
Last season we lost Benzema, who has always been regarded as the backbone of Madrid due to his contribution, and the loss of Benzema indicates that Madrid's attack could be a little less effective if they don't look for a new striker. Ancelotii was brave enough not to look for an alternative pure striker in the signing of players and he only brought Joselu and Brahim as replacement options but it actually worked this time.

Losing Kroos could also be the same because it is possible that Ancelotti will entrust several existing players and instead focus more on finding defenders and certainty about strikers who are strong indications now are Mbappe.
It can happen that when the crazy thought of Madrid not looking for a defender and instead making Tchouameni and Camavinga always in a post that is not their place is successful, it is not impossible if next season Ancelotti will assign a current player to replace Kroos' role on the field.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Selling BTC for Alt Coins? on: May 23, 2024, 08:07:19 PM
I have around 2.1k in btc rn and was wondering if I should sell it and invest in a couple of altcoin projects, would that be a good idea? I know Bitcoin will never ever do another 5x in the near future haha so that's kind of why I would wanna sell. The market cap of btc would have to reach a very high amount for it to be life-changing money to me.
The choice is yours because after all this depends on confidence when indeed you are not sure about your investment in bitcoin then you need to look for what you think is better.
But if indeed the choice is faced with me then I will remain in the bitcoin that I have.  Not that I am anti altcoin but in this case I just want to make myself comfortable with my choice because in the end why do we bother being at a higher risk if bitcoin offers a much lower risk.

The benefits of being in altcoins may be many times that of bitcoin but when talking about comfort and risk then bitcoin is much better than altcoin and I choose a safer risk than the worry of being in altcoins whose risk is much higher when compared to bitcoin.
That is my choice but we all know that this is a free area where you can do anything with your money so decide what you think is best for yourself.
6  Economy / Economics / Re: Take care of your money and learn to save. on: May 23, 2024, 07:21:00 PM
I don't really agree on this because in the end investment should be about profit, not loss because why do something in vain. Meanwhile, when we make an investment but actually make a loss, that is not an investment because the essence of investment is for profit but we ourselves are unable to make the right choice and force things too much so that the investment we make ends up making a loss in the end.

Therefore it is important for us to do things according to plan so that what we do, including investment, actually puts us in misery and we can only do this if we don't rush in deciding something and of course We also have to be prepared with planning and all the possibilities that will definitely happen.
Be smart in choosing especially for investment because the investment system is for profit and enjoyment in the future, not to make ourselves feel trapped by what we do.
Saving money is first step for investment in something. We should avoid over expenses and should spend our money on only useful things. If we will buy  luxury things and we will buy it on installment ,that is foolness. Man should make budget and he should research on good stocks where he should invest his money. But he should research on the business behind the stock, if he will his money blindly ,he will lose his money and then he will investment in stock is bad and he will advise every person not to buy the stock and keep the money in the bank that is bad idea with my personal experience.
I also don't really agree with this because however we must understand that even though the goal is the same, in the end saving and investment have differences in their sustainability so that even though they are literally the same, they are 2 different things where we know that Investment is saving the money we have for a certain period of time in order to get greater profits and saving is a form of saving that we can use anytime when we need it and does not mean that saving is the first step to investing because in the end the money from savings can be used for anything not only for investment considering that the money from savings can be used for any purpose. Saving is a form of savings that we can use anytime when we need it and it does not mean that saving is the first step to investing because in the end, money from savings can be used for anything not only for investment considering that savings are flexible and can be a reserve fund that we have.

Indeed, in this case management is necessary but in the end before talking further about looking for stocks or whatever it is we need to know the capacity and financial condition we have as a form of good management because in the end the investment aspect follows from how finances we have.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 22, 2024, 09:50:00 PM

This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.

You're joking if you say Dortmund is an amateur club because if you take that seriously then we have to say that PSG who beat Barcelona and Atletico are amateur clubs too.

Dortmund played very well it is proof that they are one of the clubs that should be taken into account with their limited conditions as a club that is not a favorite but by managing to be in the final really proves that they are very serious about the competition.
Although it also cannot be compared with Madrid's extraordinary strength, I don't think it is too appropriate to say a club that is currently in the final as an amateur club because indeed the words are not too suitable to be pinned to a club that is in the final of a big competition.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 20, 2024, 07:08:48 PM

Liverpool seem to have tendency bringing a coach who is capable of rebuilding a squad like how Klopp has done. Arne Slot has that criteria, he rebuilt Feyenoord Rotterdam that were at struggling phase to win Eredivisie league title. He also has a good skill at speaking in public, but he is too straight forward or too honest that can be a problem in front of english media.

Arne coached very well in the Eredivisie but the problem is that the Eredivisie and the EPL are obviously different competitions so there can be a tendency and results that do not match expectations in the end.

Indeed, we know how Arne Slot's performance at Feyenoord was really very good not only in the Eredivisie but also in the Europa League but even though they had to be eliminated and finished in second place in the Eredivisie but that did not reduce the praise that indeed he coached quite well but on the other hand, the Eredivisie and EPL standards are clearly different.
We take the example of Ten Hag at Ajax who performed perfection but at Manchester United he really did not have a big impact and this could also happen for Slot.

Although the worst possibility is not expected but we must be aware that something like this could happen so I don't want to have too big expectations for Slott before he really proves that he is worthy of praise and Liverpool's decision to appoint Slot as Klopp's replacement is not a mistake.
9  Economy / Economics / Re: Take care of your money and learn to save. on: May 20, 2024, 05:39:22 PM
It is true that not all investments can bring profits, there are times when losses occur and this is only natural because for profit or success of course there are failures that usually occur, but this can be minimized with our knowledge about investment, the better the knowledge, the smaller the risk of loss. . And you need to remember that investing is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand. Don't assume that investment will only produce profits, of course losses will also accompany it.
I don't really agree on this because in the end investment should be about profit, not loss because why do something in vain. Meanwhile, when we make an investment but actually make a loss, that is not an investment because the essence of investment is for profit but we ourselves are unable to make the right choice and force things too much so that the investment we make ends up making a loss in the end.

Therefore it is important for us to do things according to plan so that what we do, including investment, actually puts us in misery and we can only do this if we don't rush in deciding something and of course We also have to be prepared with planning and all the possibilities that will definitely happen.
Be smart in choosing especially for investment because the investment system is for profit and enjoyment in the future, not to make ourselves feel trapped by what we do.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: May 20, 2024, 03:19:42 PM
Cadiz drew with Las Palmas at home.It's goodbye for Cadiz who lost their last chance to stay in the league.Mathematically if they had won they would still have a chance to stay in the league but their failure to beat Las Palmas has seen them say goodbye to the league a week early.Neither team played very well and it's no surprise that there were no goals in the game.
Though it is the last chance for them because if in the end they can get 3 points then they still have a chance even though the match in the last week will be more difficult because it faces Girona but the opportunity still remains but because they draw in this match makes them have to follow in the footsteps of Granada and Almeria to follow to Segunda B next season.

Now La Liga has officially ended by knowing who is the champion and 3 clubs that have been confirmed relegated but until now for Segunda B is still not over because looking at their schedule there are still 2 matches that have not been completed and at this time it is still uncertain who will be the champion because the competition is still quite interesting and which club will go to La Liga is also still uncertain.

But the possibility of Leganes, which is currently at the top, is one that will qualify and be promoted to La Liga next season.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: May 20, 2024, 01:44:34 PM
But it's not a bad result because for the last few games Ancelotti has been experimenting with young players because the final result doesn't matter to them, so it's also a result that I think is quite positive for Madrid in today's match.
Sorloth is really on fire this season although I agree he is not a top striker but his performance this season is the best performance he has managed to create because looking at the comparison of this season at Villarreal with last season at Sociedad his performance this season is much better especially in scoring goals.

But on the other hand we also need to see Madrid's young seeds where today Arda scored a Brace and made his goal acquisition increase so this could be a frightening specter for future opponents if his performance continues like this.
Of course this is not a bad thing for a team that has secured and celebrated the title this season, but in my opinion 4-4 is not a very desirable result when Real Madrid actually led 1-4 in the first half. Real Madrid were very bad in the second half, Alexander Sørloth was the best in that match who then led the top scorer standings with 23 goals.

Securing a win when you are 1-4 ahead of your opponent is the most important thing for any team to do, but today Real Madrid failed to do so regardless of the reasons. Many gamblers are disappointed in the outcome of a match, especially if they have Real Madrid winning instead of a double chance.
The situation got out of hand when Sorloth made the difference, which in this case had an impact on the final result because looking at the beginning of the match, especially after Madrid managed to get a fairly good score, of course we also realize that the chances of winning are very high but that's where the mistake was because Madrid could not react when Villarreal's quick counter-attacks in the end.

Sorloth's strong aerial dueling power and cleverness in choosing the right position are troublesome for Madrid's defense because they always miss which makes this a little less predictable where for the last 2 goals Madrid actually saw the wrong conditions when if they were calmer then Villarreal's fast counter-attacks were not fatal.
The game is over now but that doesn't matter with this draw because the most important thing is that their focus is on the Champions League and nothing else as the final is now in sight.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 19, 2024, 09:29:11 PM
Well am not sure if the deal has been completed if it has then I think it will be the most successful one because for a player like Mbappe to leave PSG to Real Madrid on a free transfer, this means he has love for the biggest club in the world right now and his decisions can not be questioned because he is a good player that knows what he wants for himself.


We still don't know for sure but it is likely that it is definitely being discussed and maybe even completed, it's just that we don't know because Madrid always maintains its privacy, especially when talking about players who want to be transferred.
I think in this case PSG is aware that Mbappe's contract at PSG is almost up so they can't wait too long for this which makes things complicated.

I'm pretty sure in this case Mbappe's future is Madrid because seeing the situation that is happening now in the end sooner or later something like this will definitely happen and we just need to wait for the time before Mbappe is really officially introduced.

Currently other rumors say that PSG wants a Madrid left-back which we know that Mendy currently has good endurance in defense. whether in the end there are other options about Mbappe and Mendy? this is quite worth waiting for.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: May 19, 2024, 08:48:08 PM
I think Ancelotti used the main lineup of Real Madrid. Most of the starting players are substituted players. Real Madrid has won the trophy of La Liga, Ancelotti didn't force his players to play all out. I think the main purpose of Ancelotti is to give more opportunity to play for substituted players and let the main players to take a rest for UCL final match. And Ancelotti tries to remind the players to keep their physical, they must avoid injured because there are still more important match. That's why Real Madrid looks not playing as strong as in the previous matches. If Ancelotti used the main lineup and ordered the players the play all out, Alexander Sørloth won't have a chance to score 3 goals.

Anyway, in most career of Alexander Sørloth, he is often playing as a loan player. He very often loaned by his team to another team to have an opportunity to play. I'm not sure to call Alexander Sørloth as a top striker if he only becomes a top scorer in this season only. He needs to prove it again in the next season.  Wink

But it's not a bad result because for the last few games Ancelotti has been experimenting with young players because the final result doesn't matter to them, so it's also a result that I think is quite positive for Madrid in today's match.
Sorloth is really on fire this season although I agree he is not a top striker but his performance this season is the best performance he has managed to create because looking at the comparison of this season at Villarreal with last season at Sociedad his performance this season is much better especially in scoring goals.

But on the other hand we also need to see Madrid's young seeds where today Arda scored a Brace and made his goal acquisition increase so this could be a frightening specter for future opponents if his performance continues like this.
 
14  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: mengapa banyak anak muda lebih memilih judi dari pada investasi? on: May 19, 2024, 08:20:15 PM
Anak jaman dulu yang pernah mengenal judol dan pernah terjun ke dalamnya dan merasakan hasil nya masih bisa di hendel dan juga jumlah nya tidak semarak seperti sekarang ini,jaman dulu itu mereka main judol di ruang yang tertutup dan akses yang mereka gunakan juga sangat terbatasi (karena mungkin ya uang jaman dulu beda sama uang jaman sekarang ini), jaman dulu itu orang yang melakukan judol mereka tidak mau kelihatan orang karena mereka juga tau itu bukan suatu perbuatan yang baik juga.
Tapi jika kita bandingkan dengan hal dan jaman sekarang ini, yang bermain judi itu mereka tidak malu oleh semua kalangan umat mereka dengan bangga nya main judi di siang bolong dengan akses lalu lalang masyarakat,jika dibandingkan Dengan jaman dulu saya rasa sangat miris jaman sekarang sih.
Karena anak jaman dulu tidak terlalu tahu tentang media karena kita tahu bahwa di beberapa tahun lalu bahkan ketika saya kecil jangankan gadget, motor pun itu adalah cerminan untuk mereka yang memang memiliki harta di atas rata-rata karena saya hidup di kampung sehingga orang yang memiliki alat elektronik seperti tv atau radio dan kendaraan seperti motor dan mobil itu terkadang hanya orang yang terkemuka saja sehingga sudah pasti media untuk judinya juga berbeda bukan online karena hp saja masih hp nokia jadul dan belum ada android.
Itu tidak bisa disamakan dengan sekarang mas karena sekarang teknologi di negara kita membludak dan akses internet pun hampir semua wilayah bisa (meskipun masih ada yang masih tertinggal) sehingga ini menjadi sebuah strategi baru untuk perjudian.

Dari dulu perjudian sudah ada hanya saja skema nya berbeda karena dari dulu judi togel atau melakukan perjduian kartu serta bahkan sabung ayam sudah ada di negara kita hanya saja ketika zaman semakin canggih maka perjudian pun semakin canggih dan kita bisa melihat ketika togel yang asalnya hanya lewat kertas berpindah ke media sms dan sekarang mulai merembet ke online itu sudah menandakan bahwa bukan hanya teknologi yang semakin canggih tetapi pemasaran tentang perjudian pun sama.

Ketika berbicara tentang malu atau tidak mungkin untuk yang berbeda sirkel itu jelas malu tetapi untuk yang sama suka berjudi sepertinya memang itu tidak bisa ditutupi lagi karena mereka menganggap bahwa mereka satu golongan (satu srikel).
15  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Mana yang kamu pilih untuk di beli, btc atau eth? on: May 19, 2024, 07:49:33 PM
~snip~

Jika pertanyaan punya uang maka saya akan membeli keduanya dan caranya bisa membagi jumlah persentase pembelian yang jauh lebih besar terhadap bitcoin. Alasannya mungkin jelas bahwa bitcoin merupakan sebuah pilihan yang tepat dan selalu bisa menguntungkan meskipun pasar mendapatkan koreksi parah setelah kita membelinya.
Pernyataan itu tidak sepenuhnya benar dan itu tidak tepat bagi seorang trader, mungkin cocok nya hanya untuk HOLDER jangka panjang. perlu anda ingat bahwa Bitcoin itu memiliki siklus seperti contoh ketika seseorang membeli Bitcoin pada tahun 2021 kemarin di puncak tertingginya disekitar harga $69000 maka akan butuh waktu yang cukup lama untuk bisa profit atau untuk balik modal.

Jika memang fokusnya kepada trader memang pernyataan nya tidak sepenuhnya benar karena itu harus di sepakati sejak awal bahwa pada akhirnya itu hanya untuk investor jangka panjang tetapi memang ketika berbicara tentang judul yang bersifat kompleks artinya bisa untuk investasi atau trading memang kita sendiri lah yang harus bisa memilah pernyataan nya akan cocok ke investasi atau kepada trading dalam hal ini.
Hanya saja memang ketika melihat kata beli artinya ini juga mungkin untuk jangka yang lebih panjang bukan untuk perdagangan sementara atau trading karena jika berbicara tentang trading pada akhirnya akan lebih banyak objek yang bisa dijadikan sebagai pandangan tetapi ketika hanya mencakup untuk ETH dan BTC yang notabene kita pasti sadar bahwa ini adalah yang paling reccomen untuk jangka panjang maka sepertinya memang ini mengarah ke jangka yang lebih lama (dalam artian investasi).

Dengan melihat siklus di $69k beberapa tahun lalu dan sekarang baru mencapai tahap itu kembali memang itu membutuhkan jangka yang lebih panjang tetapi pada akhirnya itu juga menjadi sebuah situasi dimana ada keuntungan yang bisa diambil karena pada akhirnya ketika membeli di $69k saja berani masa ketika bitcoin mengalami koreksi bahkan sampai $15k dianggurin begitu saja karena secara logika itu tidak mungkin jika kita benar-benar yakin terhadap bitcoin sehingga keuntungan berasal dari sana.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 18, 2024, 09:58:58 PM
Since he has decided to leave, he will be target coach for so many clubs especially Bayern Munich, Juventus, and others; and he will surely get a team especially in the Seria A since he is an Italian.
Barcelona job is still open, maybe that is where he will be.
What is the job at Barcelona open for? Xavi is ready to start the new season for Barcelona so why would they add De Zerbi at this time? Most likely Serie A might be a good situation for De Zerbi but the Juventus rumors might also be an option to see if Thiago Mota can be signed or not because if not then Juventus will definitely try to approach De Zerbi.

But what I believe is that he will be quite a lot of interest to big clubs for next season even though De Zerbi's condition with Brighton this season is not very good but when looking at De Zerbi's coaching vision and the pattern of plans that are always carried out for a club then I think he is still very worthy of consideration as a coach.
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When is it right to invest in Bitcoin? on: May 18, 2024, 09:40:17 PM
-When is it the right time to invest in bitcon?
When you are ready to be in bitcoin in the sense that for this to start from finance, your financial planning and management goes well in order to make ready wholeheartedly and believe that bitcoin is indeed worthy of investment. Because however for bitcoin this is not an imposition and we also don't need to force ourselves when we still don't have more money to be in bitcoin because in the end we also have to pay attention to our condition first before actually being in bitcoin.
For the time problem it is you who determines in the end but when it asks about when by referring to the price then indeed I will say wherever the price of bitcoin is still worth it so that the reason is too expensive sometimes becomes a bit classic and tends to be ridiculous because it only covers ourselves who are still not ready to be in bitcoin.

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-What are the assurance that you are ready?

There are no guarantees but when we already feel confident and ready to face all risks including the worst possibilities then it is a sign that we are really serious about this and things like that can only be proven through time because in the end it is time that answers whether we are ready or not because the volatile movement of bitcoin will cause an uncertain market condition and that is where your readiness will be tested.
18  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Apakah Anda merasa bahagia on: May 18, 2024, 09:17:11 PM

 segala sesuatu harus diawali dengan ilmunya dulu baru kita bisa terjun kedalam pekerjaan yang kita sukai, jangan sampai kita ikut-ikutan orang, orang mulai trading kita juga ikutan trading, orang lain inves bitcoin kita juga ikutan inves bitcoin tanpa kita pelajari dulu bagaimana cara kerja dan sistem kerja, semua butuh ilmu dan guru, jangan sampai kita ikut-ikutan, tidak baik segala hal pekerjaan semua ikut-ikutan.

Ane setuju dengan agan. Sebelum mencoba berinvestasi dalam jumlah yang lebih besar alangkah baiknya jika mempelajari dulu sedikit tentang blockchain, trading dan bagaimana market bekerja. Di zaman yang serba canggih seperti sekarang ini sebenarnya cukup mudah mencari ilmu. Apalagi ada banyak channel youtube atau grup yang memang membahas seputar kripto. Kalau di Youtube ane sering mengikuti akademi kripto dan dari sana ane belajar banyak tentang bagaimana pasar bekerja dan kapan kita melakukan buy dan sell. Selain bitcoin, ternyata tidak selamanya ngehold koin untuk jangka lama akan memberikan hasil yang baik.

Sebenarnya mas dalam hal ini jika memang kita ingin belajar tentang investasi maka saya rasa kita tidak perlu mempelajari trading karena pada dasarnya investasi dan trading itu berbeda sehingga ketika memang kita ingin fokus untuk melakukan investasi maka kita hanya perlu belajar tentang hal itu kecuali jika memang kita ingin mencoba keduanya (investasi dan trading) maka memang mungkin itu bisa dilakukan.
Hanya saja untuk para pemula lebih baik fokus di salah satu dulu karena bisa saja mempelajari keduanya secara langsung akan menimbulkan persepsi dan pemikiran yang salah karena tergabung antara pemahaman trading dan investasi yang dianggap sama.

Tetapi disisi lain pasti semua sepakat pada akhirnya pembelajaran itu penting hanya dalam hal ini memang idealnya mempelajari terlebih dahulu itu bagus karena itu bisa membuat yakin kita menjadi lebih besar tetapi ketika memang kita sudah ingin berada di dalam investasi (berada dalam bitcoin misalnya) tetapi mempelajari setelahnya saya pikir itu juga tidak salah karena kita bisa membeli serta mempelajari di saat yang bersamaan. karena jika pada akhirnya kita hanya terus mempelajari teori maka selamanya kita hanya akan berkutat di pola yang sama tetapi akan berbeda jika memang langsung mempraktikan tentunya dengan keseriusan juga dalam mempelajari dan mempraktikannya.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 17, 2024, 09:51:24 PM
Barcelona can deal with the crisis if Barcelona gets a new owner of the club. The rich people from Saudi may be interested to invest their money into Barcelona. Man City is the example of a successful club after they got a new owner.

Catalans are very proud people and would never accept that their club would be sold to foreign investors. Of course many would want to buy the club, Barcelona is one of the most famous clubs in the world and has a very long history with many trophies and although they are financially struggling they are still one of the top clubs in Europe. Nevertheless, I don't believe in a sale.
I don't think it's like that, because the system of Barcelona which was initially difficult because it was not owned by an individual is what made the situation difficult to release because until now we know that Barcelona is not owned by one person but many parties who have shares there which makes when the club president tries to propose to sell it difficult because surely from all the current shareholders there will be people who oppose or agree which makes Barcelona difficult to transfer.

It's not just about the Catalan problem or anything in my opinion but indeed they don't have a collective agreement because in the end it's also about business and money in the end.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 17, 2024, 09:33:17 PM
There is no doubt that Manchester city is winning two trophies this season just like you mentioned above. They are the strongest in FA Cup finals as Manchester united will not be able to withstand City in that match. We know how poor United performance is and that makes me give the cup to City. After all, when City clashed with United in the finals last season, City won them and the same thing will repeat itself again.
The better option for Manchester United if they are to have a chance in that game is for the coach to make use of young players like Diallo, Mainoo with a mix of the experience of Bruno Fernandes in their midfield for creative opportunities. He should also play Casemiro in his original position now that Lisandro Martinez is back because Casemiro has struggled with adapting to the role central back. If Ten Hag wins the FA, there is no doubt he will remain as coach of the team.
There are things that need to be done and I agree with them that they should try to be more daring with their schemes and positioning because it could be an advantage in the end.

Ten Hag sometimes tries some extreme moves where he puts players who are not even really suitable for their positions which makes Manchester United's conditions unpredictable.
These shortcomings must be minimized in the end because currently only 2 final wins can bring them a little smile and be believed as one of the clubs that might be able to develop next season with their current poor achievements.
But on the other hand some Manchester United players are also actually still not able to completely eliminate their ego because if we see there are still some players who prefer to play alone with excessive dribbling rather than maintaining teamwork.
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