And since there's no contract people taking the advantage to borrow a lot of money, even they knew that they can't pay it all and believing no one can't be in jail for borrowing money but unless if a person already owe huge money like millions, it's consider as estafa and he can be jailed.

If there's money involve, a thing can be consider debt as you have an obligation to pay it no matter what. It's just good to hear that you loan money from bank but technically you owe them and that count to debt.

OP should filter what he read to prevent unnecessary confusion thus reading paid articles is wicked.

First of, he should read bitcoin whitepaper since all the essential information is written there, if OP just read it then all will be clear. Likely by now, he already straighten his mind since there's new fork coin, bitcoin SV ( bch fork ) that will be out in the market, hopefully it won't confuse him.

We're actually in the community that drama never end. 

If a coin is really good it will gradually increase despite on wherever it's listed. Like what people believe that once it's listed in binance it will skyrocketed, yes some of it but not all so cut the crap and don't depend on listing.


The starting price is only determine by the market however there are some ico that put a base price on the value to avoid getting dump. Otherwise, don't expect that the ico price will be the price in trading sites so don't speculate your profit early or you'll be dismay.

It will be good if you exert some effort to research about bitmex before you use it, not just because you heard over it means you should easily try it.

On the other hand, US residents are prohibited in using bitmex and don't dare to use VPN as bitmex team can still caught you.


Here's the list of traditional futures use in bitmex
btc, bch, eos, ltc, ada, xrp, eth

Antiques are rare that's why they've become valuable but shitcoins aren't rare and its developers just used that to create money. So even you keep those shitcoins it won't have a decent value unless its developer is active and paying attention to their product but if it's not, don't hope for nothing.

But you can keep it and look at it so there's something that will remind you to be cautious in buying. Treat it as token of appreciation.

It's hard to tell that as bancor is still just new yet its vision is clearly feasible than the others. From aiming to increase the liquidity in dex to low fees, well I guess future dex should be look after what bancor had did.


IDK but I believe that fake trading volumes are lesser than DEX since it doesn't have a third party that can be more manipulative.

Companies should also consider the monthly bills and expenses in daily living of their employee and its families.

So here's the scenario;
My boss paid me on btc and since my salary is for our expenses in daily living, I should be familiarize in trading bitcoin and I need to convert it to fiat. My salary is worth $500 in bitcoin and when I trade it to fiat I'll just have more or less $470 left since I need to pay for the transaction fee. So instead that $30 that I can be use in buying food it just end up paying for transaction fee. So where's the convenience?

So basically, paying in bitcoin should take a lot of consideration and it shouldn't mandatory for all employees. It will be better if they just choose which one they'll prefer.

If I were you, you shouldn't be considering borrowing money from banks since they're so wise as you can think of and they always made sure that they will get something more than anything and cryptos aren't they thing. Being volatile is a big factor that's why they didn't acknowledge cryptos as an asset, so since it isn't an asset they won't accept it as collateral.

They need more tangible as gold to be able get a loan. Honestly, if you can stay away from lending money please do, just utilize your earning and wait for it to grow rather than paying huge interest.

Other machines cater also other cryoto currency such as eth, ltc and bch and with that you can easily trade without worrying your account however the fees are quite overwhelming compare in regular trading sites so you definitely torn between fees and convenience.

Honestly, I'm not surprised with the number of ATM in US, I mean bitcoin is widely known and seems adoption isn't that hard.


Hopefully, we can see more in Asia like bitcoin transactions here are increasing and so the machines,  should also take some consideration.

That's very rough to read all those. Yet somehow the articles are one sided and it's actually a point of view of the author and not by everyone else so I guess it's better to have  some healthy yet real  discussion.

But I'll give it a shot here and read those article when I'm free and hopefully more rational statement will be seen here.

Yeah I think so since we barely to see successful icos recently and it just made the community more awful as obviously it just die eventually.

Honestly, I'm staying away from icos as much as I could and if I really want the token badly, I just wait for it to get listed and buy from those dumpers.

I always look at the product, if it's something new that can really have a real usage in the community and definitely not just an app. The team and social media page is always a must look.

It was been and will always be a puppet of those elite people and we can't do anything about it though the least we can do is know what's the fact from fuck. In an instance, it's really saddening how media uses social media to poison the mind of younger generation and condition them they should believe them. More likely a hypnotism at its finest


That's good point and you're lucky to do that like you can diversify to other assets but what about those poor people that doesn't have even one asset? Financial crisis is a serious issue that every country has and it really strikes us especially those who are in the bottom of society. And the fact still remains that when you're poor today, you're be poorer tomorrow and it sucks.

The title should go like this. Our habitual engagement in cryptos.

Well I think that most suit rather than addiction since I don't want that negative connotation. Like for me this is a sort of kind of habit to our every day lives and you just didn't notice how it affect us.

On the other hand, I'm guilty of no. 1 and 4 but no. 2 isn't right since we also need to socialize to others even we all have different perspective. Just hang out with them and have fun. As they say, we only live once.

Just forget crypto for a moment, just chill and take a break once in a while.

I think you're confuse because in fact it's the best way how you can recover your account and it's a solid proof that it's really belongs to you.


Yes it is, there you go.
https://medium.com/@eugen_lechner/sign-and-verify-a-wallet-address-with-myetherwallet-1a46f6e2853e



So does it mean that we can't just easily signed an address or else bugs will just compromise the message?

Yet the trend tell it all.

1. Bitcoin pump, altcoin dump
2. Bitcoin dump, altcoin dump more

Since bitcoin is dominating the cryptos, when investors see that bitcoin is struggling and fuds are spreading, they easily loss trust and dump their altcoin. Though when bitcoin pump, they sell their altcoin and diversify more in bitcoin.


Yeah after all, it's profitable unless someone here is a FOMO and bought at $19k.

Cryptos are unpredictable and so the price of bitcoin. Good thing I sell my eth last month and buy more bitcoin or unless I'm doomed now.

Oh yeah and if there will be someone that can know, then he must be damn rich now.

But realistically none though technically, we have whales that manipulate the market and they can do this without our knowledge, they can make it look peak even it's not and there's FOMO that once again fooled by the market.

Maybe we can ask Nostradamus about this.
Just kidding.

Seriously? Comparing bitcoin to iphoneX is crazy. Bitcoin is an asset and iPhone X is just a gadget that depreciate in just some months. Nice logic huh.


Oh yeah just believe that. Can you cite us some coins that's better choice than bitcoin. Let's see if 5 years is enough for your shitcoins or should I say if it still even reach 5 years.


Yes we're basing our analysis to our experience or rather on history since we already saw how bitcoin struggle from its ups and downs.

LoL this actually true since our elderly really prefer to have something tangible and for them it feels like security. Before our grandparents are really fond of buying gold and silver and they'll tell their children that if they'll die their children won't starve and already have a future. For them it's more than an investment and likely an insurance plan.

It's funny but it's true. You know, nothing beats an old fashioned way.

Yes somehow it is but what if the new jobs doesn't fit to all those people that unemployed. This will definitely depend on what jobs will create. It will be sustainable if the jobs that will create is likely a livelihood program for the poor like handicrafts, cooking or sewing. Teach them something that they can use for their everyday living. This small act can have a big impact to the community and will have a domino effect in economic situation.


Don't be like that. No man is an island.

Good concept but what confuse me is if this will be the new method, it's more likely a peer to peer which means to be able to transfer to someone I will be needing a high end computer and gpus that can support this? Or if not, what will be the new system?

So what if I can't afford to have this? I'll be left out, I guess.

I'm sorry for a lot of questions, I'm puzzled.