Some researchers and I have discovered that the dollar is broken. A 0.00000001% attack* by one person can cause quadruple spending, reset of the upper dollar limit and the creation of numerous hard forks separated by international currency controls.. * also known as a 'Bernanke attack' by some researchers... BTC
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1311usd Then correction to 350 and gradual rise from there
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I fully expect a march up a mountain, then a flight into the sky, followed by a rocket launch to space, with subsequent trip to the moon, all prior to a visit to Mars, all of which is merely the warm up for a trip to another galaxy far far away...
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perfect lyrics to the new bitcoin rally song....! Please feel free to create it!
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It's pretty clear that nobody is buying bitcoins anymore. Anyone that's going to buy up a lot of coins right now to prove me wrong is just throwing away money. The only reason the price is staying in place is because of a select few rich individuals that can absorb enough coins to counteract any attack. Nobody is selling because they see how much money is 'readily available' but that money would be used by now if it were intended to be used. It's like playing a nice game of basketball, when all of a sudden Lebron James enters the game. At first you're like HELL YAH.... then you quickly realize that the only one scoring is Lebron James. How is nowheresville nowadays lol no faith BTC
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The long term trend for bitcoin value is contraction, not expansion.
Here's the fact of the matter:
+ Bitcoin just enjoyed more media exposure over the past 3 months than can reasonably be expected to occur anywhere in the near future. There's just nothing newsworthy forthcoming unless there is something scandalous that happens again, and we're just about out of interesting scandals. We've made the rounds from illegal purchasing to hacking to market failures. There's just nothing left to get the attention of corporate media. The fact is that no-one cares about bitcoin as a medium of exchange, except a small core constituency of idealists here on these forums. It HAD newsworthy spectacle value as prices skyrocketed and people "got rich quick," but those times are over. There is nothing left of newsworthy value.
+ The price run-up happened SOLELY on hype alone. There's not much analysis that needs to be done here. It was clearly a bubble that started with the Silk Road coverage, inflated with the mining craze, and ended with the Gox scandal. That's it folks. Bitcoin jumped the shark 3 weeks ago.
+ The current "stability" is no such thing. There is no stability when there's no backing economy. The only "stability" we're seeing is roughly the same sub 10-15,000 (could be exceedingly lower, and possibly a bit higher though doubtfully) "investors" propping up the price and using trading bots to maintain the appearance of a functioning market and "stability." The fact is that the market has been on a slow and steady DECLINE ever since Gox came back online. This is because there is no new blood entering the market, just the same old speculators throwing more of their paychecks into it; BUT, not enough to grow the market. That's why were seeing a steady loss of a few cents of USD value everyday. And this will continue for the long haul.
+ Echoing the same dilemma of 3 months ago when bitcoin began catching on with speculators, "Where is the bitcoin economy." Well folks, this is it. The list of bitcoin merchants hasn't grown at all, and in fact if you browse the Trade section of bitcoin.org itself, and explore some of the merchants there you'll find that some of them have removed their bitcoin advertisements and no longer APPEAR to accept it. I encourage you to peruse them and see for yourself, because during that excercise you'll also see that basically all businesses listed are extremely small time, mom and pop shop operations, and most of them quite amateur at that. That is your bitcoin economy. That is what you have to work with now, and for any reasonable foreseeable future.
This is not a thread about the speculation of bitcoin's future, these are the facts.
Lol maybe some of my coins were once yours! BTC
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I salute you!! Ha ha great sale there back in2011!
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I fully expect a march up a mountain, then a flight into the sky, followed by a rocket launch to space, with subsequent trip to the moon, all prior to a visit to Mars, all of which is merely the warm up for a trip to another galaxy far far away...
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I sold about 60% of my BTC last week when it started to dip as I wanted to recover my initial investment so what remained was pure profit. Now the price is a lot higher and I really wished I'd held longer, but still I am sat on roughly 25BTC and that is all profit so I am relatively happy still I do kinda wish I hadn't sold so many last year though, but thats life eh? You have over a millionth of the total possible bitcoins there will ever be. Rich man you are.
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HAHAHAHAHA Never sell BTCBTCBTCLol every time I click on the OPs thread I have a little giggle. Strong hands never sell.
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Also, with the advent of the Silk Road, and Asians being notorious opiate feinds, he may have died of overdose or retired to a den.
Er it's not the 1850s any more... You don't need to worry about Pacific cannibals or British snuff users either Captain Hornblower.
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Slightly extreme article, seems like a reaction piece to the WU stock oscillations. And even if the US authorities end up imposing the more extreme outcomes, Bitcoin will still survive in the US without a doubt, and it will continue to get used for remittance. It'll just be a huge advertisement for Bitcoin's international transfer advantages ("So dangerous to WU they tried to shut it down" etc). I think we all know that it's not disappearing from TCP/IP traffic anytime soon, whether or not it needs to be secreted in an encrypted sub-layer of the internet in the authoritarian US.
WU investors are right to be concerned long term though, it's dead in the water before the end of the 2010's.
The speed at which USD is getting irrelevant is no joke. The end to petrodollar is being invented right here in the US, thanks to Tesla This +100000 I predict one of the precipitants to a dollar crash will be countries pricing their oil in non dollar currencies. The see the dominos start to fall...
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There was a flash spike in the BTC/USD price today on many exchanges. BTC/USD on Bitstamp spiked from 0.004849 BTC/USD to 0.006402 BTC/USD over the course of several minutes. The bubble was short lived however and within a few hours the BTC/USD bubble had burst and corrected to close to pre bubble levels. BTC/USD has been correcting for some months now, with many analysts predicting all time lows over the next few weeks.... BTC
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I'm generally a buy and holder rather than a trader but would love to increase my BTC holdings towards my own BTC long term target.
Consequently I used a little BTC on a margin trading platform to leverage my position long.
I survived the flash crash today but do wonder if there are some large players creating these crashes just to wipe out people's margin positions.
It would make sense as the seller could buy back up without much net loss but with the benefit of taking down various leveraged positions if they were running a trading site.
Seems more profitable than trying to increase one's BTC or US$ holdings that way as the market in general is recovering very quickly after each whale dump.
Thoughts? Who are the biggest BTC margin trading players?
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Just out of curiosity. Vladimir, how much do you think that price will be in 2020?
For several reasons I doubt you are able to messure BTC in USD in 2020, so I think you need to redefine your question. What I meant was in todays purchasing power of dollars. dexX7 is probably right and I suppose we here saying USD in future tense usually mean "today's USD". I do not know the answer to Gordonium's question. I, however, expect that there will be supply shocks around 2017 and 2020. See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply and specifically new coin emission dropping from 9% and 4% and from ~4% to ~2%. There is also upcoming supply shock, which will happens much sooner when current 3-5% a day difficulty growth drop to 0% or less which will also mean supply of new coins dropping by about 40%. Of course, this is only about new coin supply. There is also old coin/hoard supply and demand parts of the equation that also affect the price. But if you want a number, I would say/speculate ~100 000$ per BTC in 2017 and closer to 1 000 000$ per BTC in 2020. Love it Vlad - true bitcoin believer and legend! Count me in on that prediction woohoo buy and hold baybee!
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as long as you take their good old greenbacks as long they can go deeper into debt. but someday nobody accepts their worthless fiat dollars anymore...
That will never ever happen. As long as US taxes are payable in US dollars, there will be a market in dollars. That's the point, there won't be a whole lot of international demand for dollars. Zimbabwe money's worth something in Zimbabwe but outside Zimbabwe its only real value is an example of what happens when things go wrong. Agreed. I was just scrolling down the page wondering why no one had mentioned Zimbabwe. It used to be the 'breadbasket of Africa', now it is a basket case. Internally the US govt might get away with printing money but at some point other countries won't value their debased currencies and will demand their own fiat or bitcoins for their goods. I think the (potentially violent) turning point will be when oil producing countries start to price oil in non USD currencies or even bitcoin.
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Our Satoshi, who art in blockchain, Encrypted be thy name Thy transactions come Thy will be done on ASICS As it is on Github. Give us this day our daily mining reward, And forgive our zero-conf double-spends As we forgive them that double-spend against us. And lead us not into alt-chains But deliver us from Ripple For thine is the mining rig, The hashing power, and the block reward, For ever and ever Amen. This is awesome. It is quite accurate too ha-ha so yah awesome XD It is. I laughed quite a bit. Love it, and managed to slag off ripple too!
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3300 usd Ps posting a range is cheating in this thread!
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