We are doing exactly that by not lending donating anything to you.

... Or it might completely fail, so this is the reason that what you are looking is not a loan but an investment.

You better move this thread in a more appropriate section of the forum.

For a first time user of the forum, you sure do know a lot about how the merit and activity systems work, about the "newbie tag", about the "borrowing from friends or family" advice (without anyone saying anything about this)...

It shows that you put a little thought into your plan this time, so my question to you is: Did any of your previous scam attempts have ever paid out?

Of course you did.

(By your logic you didn't asked for red trust either... but of course you did this also.)

Truth be told, you really don't help anybody...

Maybe you think you are, but you aren't. The people that you are donating money to, don't have any emergencies (we have heard it all, from sick children to saving the world projects). If someone would indeed need money for a serious problem, they would borrow from friends, relative, bank loans, etc... and not from a forum. In fact, 99.99% of new users that don't provide valid collateral are scammers. And even if they are not from the start and their intention is to pay back the loan, the idea that they can get away with defaulting the loan without any repercussions is really compelling to them.

Another thing, most of the newly created accounts that are asking for loans without collateral are the same old scammers that are plaguing this forum for years so, by encouraging them you sure don't do any good to the forum either.

In the end, it's your money, so your are free to do as you please with them, but please just think for a second that you may find some value in the advice of a long time forum user.

Good luck.

This alone demonstrates that you in fact was looking to sell the domain and not to get a loan. The negative feedback is well deserved.

Probably never! but I wish to be wrong this time

@ThatRandom8543

$220 is 110%
$240 is 120%

Ceea ce spui este adevarat dar nu in totalitate, mai exact ma refer la precizarea pe care ai facut'o ca le'a dat trust negativ degeaba. Asta pentru ca omiti o chestie foarte importanta: acel trust negativ ii apare celui care l'a dat, mai exact, lui Tszunami98 ii vor aparea acei useri cu trust rating negativ.

In rest, pentru ceilalti user, ai perfecta dreptate, nu prea conteaza trust'ul dat de membrii care nu sunt DT.

@OP

There are many hacked accounts on this forum, so, for your protection, please consider asking for a signed message so you can be sure that the person asking for the loan is indeed the real account holder. As general guide lines, you should ask for a signed message from an address that the user has posted at least 3 months prior of making the loan request.

Good luck with your service.

Atentie la userul Santinella pentru ca se ocupa cu scammingul. Este un promoter de scheme ponzi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2170363.0

Just tell them to withdraw the amount from your balance and you are all set )

P.S. This is sarcasm. The reality is that you will never see a single satoshi from this scam site.

This is an investment you are looking for and not a loan so you should move your thread in a more appropriate section.

As a loan, you have 0 chances of getting it so you are just wasting your time in the Lending section.

Good luck with your investment.

Then go and buy stuff with your word.. see how this will work.

If you have domain names, then yes, this could be used as collateral but you should start by making this very clearly and posting your domains. In this case it is possible to find a lender.

Also, for goods (iPhones, Macbooks), although they are valid collateral, it's extremely hard to find a lender. You are much better to go to a pawn shop in your area, but you also could try here to find a loan based on this collateral. Also, to increas your chances, post pictures and all the details of the goods.

If you ignore this, you will be red tagged because, in your first post, in your own words "As a colletaral I could offer you profit sharing.. of course with a written contract". Future income is not collateral so you violated "The rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" means that in order to get a loan you must give collateral that is equal, or preferably higher to the amount you are being loaned." As a newbie, with just one post, you are not allowed to do this.

I hope that I cleared some things for you, in order to proceed with this in the proper way.

Good luck.

If you had spent half the time that you have wasted writing all this, reading the stickies, than you would have a preety good ideea why you wouldn't get a loan, and more than this, why your account will be tagged.

You will find all the answers to your questions by reading this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.msg6311902#msg6311902

What are you seeking is an investment and not a loan. Now, if you don't have valid collateral, then this is not the place for your post (in the lending section). Close this thread and try your luck in a more appropriate section.

Good luck.

Even if it is possible to sell the app, this can't be done in a timely manner. This is essential for the lender, because in the event that BTC start to rise, you have to top up the collateral to maintain the agreed margin. If you fail to do this, the lender must quickly sell your collateral to avoid a loss. This is the reason that most altcoins used as collateral are keept on exchanges with a stop loss order.

A signed NDA and Non-compete clause have absolutely no value here. This is because in the event of a misunderstanding between you and the lender, he must take you to court to resolve the issues. Absolutely no one here will go with this.

Social engineering means a form of hacking that doesn't have anything with coding, but uses people instead. For example, I can call a company and pretend to be the owner of an account. If I manage to trick them to give me access to the account, than this is called social engineering.

In your case, you really are the true owner of the apps, and even if you transfer them to someone else, you can call them and state that your computer was hacked. This is much more frequently than you think so this is the reason that most online account are not considered collateral.

For the off-topic question, I don't know why.

What OP fails to understand is the meaning of collateral.

1. Collateral is something that the lender can easily sell to recoup his loss in case that you default - your app can't be easily sold for the amount you're asking.
2. Collateral is something that you will no longer have during the loan period - you still have the app code so you have no incentive to pay back the loan.
3. Collateral is something that can't be recovered by you by any means - you can recover it by social engeneering.

What you are offering is nowhere near considered as collateral.


If you understand this, please offer something valid as collateral. If you don't have a valid collateral than please lock your thread.

If you continue to push this, then the only logical explanation is that you are trying to scam.

You are right about this, asking for a loan among strangers on the internet without collateral is the definition of a scammer.

Giving a loan among strangers on the internet without collateral is the definition of an idiot.

Now that we have cleared who is who, you can lock your thread. You won't find any idiots in here.


Bye bye alt account of someone who has tried this many times before.

How the fuck can someone provide bank accounts as collateral??...

Men, this scammers will say anything for a few cents...