Even though I think Betnomi has an unclear policy on her site, I don't think he has anything to do with this situation.
It looks more like Gosha is trying to set a trap for Betnomi. Normally that will be out of revenge, otherwise you won't do such a thing. The question then is what happened between the two.

Does this mean you have your own company with own license? Or do you rent the license?

I think everybody would appreciate if you answer this simple question.

Considering they still haven't tweaked the vallidator, I have a strong suspicion that they aren't licensed at all directly.
I had also asked a similar question once before, but there was no response then. It would be smart that the Operator will start giving explanations.

The only answer I can give you is that this restriction has been imposed by the license provider in Curacao. I don't know what the underlying thought is. I can tell you that the list of countries not encouraged by Betnomi is complete nonsense. That list is really wrong. As far as I can tell, they read an article online about gambling somewhere and decided to include all those countries in their list. Just like they forgot to set up the Netherlands. They just keep messing with the terms. There is a difference between local gambling and online gambling. And the list is based on that too.


What Betnomi implies now is that they do not encourage you to gamble from a country that is prohibited. What a deception. Gambling is legal or illegal, there is no in between. When you launch a casino site, you must be aware of the rules of the law and also the license you have received.


I can tell you now what's going to happen. You can make deposits from countries where gambling is prohibited, and Betnomi will accept them with great gratitude. And as long as you keep betting and losing, they won't be difficult at all. But as soon as you start to win big, they'll just follow the KYC procedure, and if you come from a country that they think gambling is illegal, your winnings will be confiscated.

Betnomi's management (or maybe it's just this person on the forum) is totally unaware of the rules and changes the terms every time as if it were a note for a test. Terms and conditions are binding and must be correct.

The problem is that Betnomi doesn't know what he's doing. He copies and pastes some things into the Terms and Conditions. Anyone can be that none of it is right. He uses a template for the conditions. As if we are talking about a menu of a restaurant. The attitude of the owner of Betnomi is also getting more and more unfriendly and arrogant at the moment. I think most people have now seen Betnomi's unprofessional behavior.
Anyone who does not know what the terms and conditions for a betting site should look like, and just copies and pastes from templates, should be marked as highly unreliable and risky.

Besides that, I don't think the operator is aware of the regulations. He even wrote here that people from Curacao are welcome. According to the license of Curacao that is absolutely not allowed. But I have to say that he just answers nicely, and is not as arrogant as we saw with the owner of Betnomi. I hope that the operator of marsbet sees this as learning points and will immediately adjust a few things. I think it is strange that only players from Turkey are welcome?

- Do you accept payments in Crypto? (bitcoin) ?
- Do you accept registrations from Curacao?

Welcome to the forum. I have created an account, but it is not working as it should yet. When I log in, the system indicates that my account has not been verified. And the verification mail that should come looks like this; I don't really understand what the point of this is. How can we verify on the site if the verification email never arrives?
I received a very strange E-mail.





There is no information about Payment methods.
We saw a copy of this site last week also.

As I have stated before: This site is not aware of the legislation and / or does not respect the rules and just does what they want.
It is mandatory to include all countries in the general terms and conditions that are excluded according to the Curacao license. What they are trying to do now is let players from, for example, the Netherlands gamble (you will not even be blocked via a VPN address in the Netherlands).
And the moment you win, they appeal to the fact that the Netherlands is not allowed under the license of Curacao. Then put it in your conditions. At the moment this tends towards Cloudbet dining.
It is also mandatory to perform the KYC procedure from a certain amount according to Curacao. And that must also be in the conditions or elsewhere on the site. A lot has gone wrong so far. But I am also afraid that this will result in many victims, since the general terms and conditions are not good and they are not legally correct.

Thank you for the honest and clear explanation, I am sure people will appreciate it. The only that only may raise some questions is the subject "Instant withdrawals".
Most people wants to know "How instant?"

I wish every website the very best on the forum and everyone is entitled to success. Of course there are always start-up problems, but Betnomi really makes a mess and is completely mismanaged.
It is therefore time to open your eyes to this mismanagement.
I personally think it's going too far now. They write in the terms and conditions that a number of countries are excluded, but that is completely wrong.
Offering gambling to players from the Netherlands is strictly prohibited and is also prohibited under the license of Curacao. Betnomi writes down a few random countries (and has now written down some countries from which it is allowed).


I would very often hear from Betnomi how it is that the Netherlands is not in the list of excluded countries? Because this is strictly prohibited from the license of Curacao!

To cover themselves, they put in the conditions:
 Betnomi reserves the right to block the access to Betnomi.com and to pay the winning to the players from the mentioned countries;




In short: Creating an account is no problem, you will not be blocked. But as soon as you win, they will take your winnings and credits. A well-known trick.
But what is really a bad thing is that they have not mentioned the Netherlands in the conditions, and that is just another sign that the owner does not know at all what he is doing, and just wrote something about it.
Betnomi's argument was the last time "Everyone just copies and pastes from each other"

Can you proof that your company is really registered in Malta and that you are the owner of it? If clients are interested and want to do business with you, you provide them a bank account number?
From the website:

"All www.betagent.online products are operated by Bet Broker Interactive LTD registered address in Malta"

It is good that they updated their Terms. Although it is only a few lines now. But at least they are working on it. Better late then never of course.
You should also update the validator in the footer. It could have saved a lot of problems and negative messages if you did this before you go online with the site.

Normally, a good bookmaker resolves this neatly with the customer. Instead, Cloudbet chooses to play it even harder and the player may file a complaint with the license committee. Scandalous. By the way, this is also extremely curious:



How dare Cloudbet actually use the word "false information"? The only ones who give false information are themselves.
So that instant withdrawal is completely wrong and misleading. And is only a bait to acquire customers. Much has been written about instant payouts, and I am now firmly convinced that such a thing does not exist with most bookmakers. Otherwise, Cloudbet would have just paid out as it says they pay out immediately. But they don't do that at all. They just make themselves more and more ridiculous with their attitude.

@cloudbet: Stop this mess.
You have already made fun of your own enough. You accepted this player as a customer, he was allowed to make deposits, and now that he has won some money, you are going to whine for documentation. If you really want to abide by the rules, then you should immediately request identification from KYC after a deposit, and not bring it up if a user has won a lot. This customer has deposited, you have accepted the bets so you are paying out. No nonsense arguments. Pay the customer.

If you look at all the accusations from people who have been scammed by certain sites, I think you need to polish the list of bookmakers on your site a little bit. Now you are associated with it too, and that can give you a bad name too. While you have nothing to do with it yourself.

About the Fox cycling club: Foxes are already so fast, that they do not need the bike, I think. 

STOLEN TERMS AND CONDITIONS FROM UNIBET
I think action should be taken to warn people. I have compared the terms and conditions of Unibet (a large bookmaker) with those of Betnomi and they are also almost the same.
The operator claimed to use a template and modify it later. This answer is based entirely on lies.
What actually happened is that they stole terms and conditions from Unibet. That's theft and fraud!
People should now really be warned, because a website that steals terms and conditions from other bookmakers is not reliable.
Screenshots:

Source:
https://www.unibet.eu/terms

Link screenshots:
https://imgur.com/a/1KYeFTl







How stupid can you be to steal the Terms and conditions from Unibet?!

I did some more research regarding this site. I noticed that there was a lot of aggression and frustration in his reactions. Such answers naturally raise more questions than answers. The product that this site uses comes from the white label product company Betconstruct (www.betconstruct.com)
Radon B.V. is not their own company, it is Betconstruct's parent company. The owner of betnomi.com does not have any company of his own and uses a white label construction from Betconstruct. This also explains why he is not able to make adjustments himself, everything has to be passed on to the company Betconstruct, and they have to make these adjustments again. So there is a lot of noise and delay on the line, with every action. It is not uncommon for companies to work this way.

What worries me more is the reputation. Since this site is fairly new, little information can be found. However, there is one site, "vbet.com", which is a nearly exact copy of Betnomi.com
This site has a lot of bad reviews and what I can conclude is that a lot of people have been scammed.
To be clear: Vbet also has the same owner in the register as Betnomi; namely Radon B.V.
This company is therefore busy setting up many websites for companies, and they have this completely under their control.
I wouldn't be surprised to be the owner of vbet.com and betnomi. com is the same, and since vbet.com has a lot of bad reviews, they have now started a new site. By the way, this is not an attack on Betnomi, I just want to share my findings with people on the forum, to prevent players from being disappointed and losing a lot of money. I checked Vbet.com in google and it give many negative accusations.
P.S. The terms and conditions have still not been adjusted either.
For the skeptical among us; here the screenshots.


Operator i have one more question. Can you confirm that you do not have your own company and this is only a white label product from another company with the name Radon B.V. and that you are using their software and customers play on the license of Radon B.V. ? Same idea as vbet.com