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October 09, 2020, 09:23:18 AM
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Can you name the blacklisted countries for casino and blacklisted countries for sportsbook? How can we know if we are prohibited to play either at casino or sportsbook?
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October 09, 2020, 11:58:23 AM
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Can you name the blacklisted countries for casino and blacklisted countries for sportsbook? How can we know if we are prohibited to play either at casino or sportsbook?
I don't see the information you are looking but I would love to know if there's an specific countries.

This one might be the closest to the information you like to know.
https://www.betnomi.com/general-terms-and-conditons
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23.2 Registration and betting is allowed exclusively to people over 18 years old (or the allowed age range in the given country from which the user has opened a deposit and made bets). Users have complete responsibility as to dealing with the legality of Internet gambling in the region where they live and/or for providing the appropriate authorities of their country with information on winnings. The Company reserves the right to require proof of age and block the User’s account before receiving the appropriate documentation.

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October 09, 2020, 12:10:28 PM
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Can you name the blacklisted countries for casino and blacklisted countries for sportsbook? How can we know if we are prohibited to play either at casino or sportsbook?
You'll have to go to their website and read the General Terms and Conditions. https://www.betnomi.com/general-terms-and-conditons

I'm not sure if this list is actually from Betnomi team or still from the template they used. Residents of the following countries are "restricted" from playing [For your reference also Finestream]
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Afghanistan, Australia, Denmark, Estonia, Ethiopia, France, and other French territories, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Jordan, Kuwait, North Korea, Pakistan, Philippines, Spain, Syria, Turkey, United States of America and other U.S. territories, or Yemen (please be aware of particular country exclusions for Casino – Games – Live Casino, Poker and Bingo);

Apparently, they will not ban you  outright even if you are from the above listed countries unless you are abusing their promos and engaging in other fraudulent activities https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279745.msg55340782#msg55340782 Confusing as that may be, don't use their platform if you are from the restricted countries to be safe.
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October 09, 2020, 12:22:04 PM
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Can you name the blacklisted countries for casino and blacklisted countries for sportsbook? How can we know if we are prohibited to play either at casino or sportsbook?
You'll have to go to their website and read the General Terms and Conditions. https://www.betnomi.com/general-terms-and-conditons

I'm not sure if this list is actually from Betnomi team or still from the template they used. Residents of the following countries are "restricted" from playing [For your reference also Finestream]
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Afghanistan, Australia, Denmark, Estonia, Ethiopia, France, and other French territories, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Jordan, Kuwait, North Korea, Pakistan, Philippines, Spain, Syria, Turkey, United States of America and other U.S. territories, or Yemen (please be aware of particular country exclusions for Casino – Games – Live Casino, Poker and Bingo);

Apparently, they will not ban you  outright even if you are from the above listed countries unless you are abusing their promos and engaging in other fraudulent activities https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279745.msg55340782#msg55340782 Confusing as that may be, don't use their platform if you are from the restricted countries to be safe.

Thanks for reading the full information for us, I'm just worried that my country is part of the list, but I haven't gambled so far, so I guess I'll be alright since I only made an account for the campaign purpose, but I would like to see more explanation from OP about it.

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October 09, 2020, 01:20:09 PM
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I wish every website the very best on the forum and everyone is entitled to success. Of course there are always start-up problems, but Betnomi really makes a mess and is completely mismanaged.
It is therefore time to open your eyes to this mismanagement.
I personally think it's going too far now. They write in the terms and conditions that a number of countries are excluded, but that is completely wrong.
Offering gambling to players from the Netherlands is strictly prohibited and is also prohibited under the license of Curacao. Betnomi writes down a few random countries (and has now written down some countries from which it is allowed).


I would very often hear from Betnomi how it is that the Netherlands is not in the list of excluded countries? Because this is strictly prohibited from the license of Curacao!

To cover themselves, they put in the conditions:
 Betnomi reserves the right to block the access to Betnomi.com and to pay the winning to the players from the mentioned countries;




In short: Creating an account is no problem, you will not be blocked. But as soon as you win, they will take your winnings and credits. A well-known trick.
But what is really a bad thing is that they have not mentioned the Netherlands in the conditions, and that is just another sign that the owner does not know at all what he is doing, and just wrote something about it.
Betnomi's argument was the last time "Everyone just copies and pastes from each other"

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October 09, 2020, 01:28:13 PM
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Thanks for reading the full information for us, I'm just worried that my country is part of the list, but I haven't gambled so far, so I guess I'll be alright since I only made an account for the campaign purpose, but I would like to see more explanation from OP about it.
From those restricted countries my country were not listed. I think it's not a big deal to use gambling website unless your country over protective mode and blacklisted the site. There tons of gambling website out there, it's something impossible to recognize all and blocked. Even, It's extremely uncommon if any betting site going to make a move those users, however I'm not sure though. Anyway, I feel glad I'm not an inhabitant in those nations.
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October 09, 2020, 01:45:48 PM
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Thanks for reading the full information for us, I'm just worried that my country is part of the list, but I haven't gambled so far, so I guess I'll be alright since I only made an account for the campaign purpose, but I would like to see more explanation from OP about it.
From those restricted countries my country were not listed. I think it's not a big deal to use gambling website unless your country over protective mode and blacklisted the site. There tons of gambling website out there, it's something impossible to recognize all and blocked. Even, It's extremely uncommon if any betting site going to make a move those users, however I'm not sure though. Anyway, I feel glad I'm not an inhabitant in those nations.

Since this site does not require a KYC, how would they treat a user who would sign up and play if such IP address are listed on the countries which are not allowed or block from using the gambling site? I can wait all day for this reply as I can relate what happen to cloudbet with their recent scam accusation.

We can follow the issue here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.6800

we don't want to see a similar problem in the future involving other site.

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October 09, 2020, 01:50:52 PM
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~snip~

Thanks for reading the full information for us, I'm just worried that my country is part of the list, but I haven't gambled so far, so I guess I'll be alright since I only made an account for the campaign purpose, but I would like to see more explanation from OP about it.
From those restricted countries my country were not listed. I think it's not a big deal to use gambling website unless your country over protective mode and blacklisted the site. There tons of gambling website out there, it's something impossible to recognize all and blocked. Even, It's extremely uncommon if any betting site going to make a move those users, however I'm not sure though. Anyway, I feel glad I'm not an inhabitant in those nations.

Since this site does not require a KYC, how would they treat a user who would sign up and play if such IP address are listed on the countries which are not allowed or block from using the gambling site? I can wait all day for this reply as I can relate what happen to cloudbet with their recent scam accusation.

We can follow the issue here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.6800

we don't want to see a similar problem in the future involving other site.

As I have stated before: This site is not aware of the legislation and / or does not respect the rules and just does what they want.
It is mandatory to include all countries in the general terms and conditions that are excluded according to the Curacao license. What they are trying to do now is let players from, for example, the Netherlands gamble (you will not even be blocked via a VPN address in the Netherlands).
And the moment you win, they appeal to the fact that the Netherlands is not allowed under the license of Curacao. Then put it in your conditions. At the moment this tends towards Cloudbet dining.
It is also mandatory to perform the KYC procedure from a certain amount according to Curacao. And that must also be in the conditions or elsewhere on the site. A lot has gone wrong so far. But I am also afraid that this will result in many victims, since the general terms and conditions are not good and they are not legally correct.
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October 09, 2020, 01:53:53 PM
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What will happen then if I register from the Netherlands then and make a deposit and want to withdraw? Do I lose my money?

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October 09, 2020, 02:54:59 PM
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As I have stated before: This site is not aware of the legislation and / or does not respect the rules and just does what they want.
It is mandatory to include all countries in the general terms and conditions that are excluded according to the Curacao license. What they are trying to do now is let players from, for example, the Netherlands gamble (you will not even be blocked via a VPN address in the Netherlands).
And the moment you win, they appeal to the fact that the Netherlands is not allowed under the license of Curacao. Then put it in your conditions. At the moment this tends towards Cloudbet dining.
It is also mandatory to perform the KYC procedure from a certain amount according to Curacao. And that must also be in the conditions or elsewhere on the site. A lot has gone wrong so far. But I am also afraid that this will result in many victims, since the general terms and conditions are not good and they are not legally correct.


Not necessarily sure what your point is. Your issue was our terms and conditions etc. We stated clearly we are working on all these and other pages. This doesn't happen overnight. Those are the countries restricted by default. We are editing and modifying these information's. We know these are countries stated specifically by the curacao authorities. ( The Netherlands, France and the United States of America.) Other than this, there is a long list of country that we will be updating. These are very important information's and we do recognize that and are working on it.

We are not "Cloudbet" or other websites that has been accused of wrong doings etc. It seems you do not know anything about or platform. We started very little and we are rapidly growing and expanding our reach.
Not claiming to be an all knowing organism but an evolving entity that is accepting feedbacks and suggestions, making necessary changes and improvements as we progress.

With outmost respect, we request you stop throwing around outlandish and unfounded claims against us. We have been around for at least a few months, never confiscated any users funds and we do not intend to do so.
Our approach is to be community friendly and do our outmost to resolve any potential issues with our users within the applicable laws.

One of our goal is to become the most reliable, stable, trusted and of course provide the best gambling experience there is in the crypto space but, we do have to start somewhere. As always, we appreciate suggestions, pointing out of issues and criticism but what we do not appreciate is claims of malicious intents based on conjecture.




What will happen then if I register from the Netherlands then and make a deposit and want to withdraw? Do I lose my money?

Again, users from restricted jurisdictions are not allowed to access and or place bets on Betnomi.com . If we however determine a user from a restricted jurisdiction is using our services, we will void all their bets and refund their deposits. NEVER confiscate their funds.


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October 09, 2020, 03:16:03 PM
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As I have stated before: This site is not aware of the legislation and / or does not respect the rules and just does what they want.
It is mandatory to include all countries in the general terms and conditions that are excluded according to the Curacao license. What they are trying to do now is let players from, for example, the Netherlands gamble (you will not even be blocked via a VPN address in the Netherlands).
And the moment you win, they appeal to the fact that the Netherlands is not allowed under the license of Curacao. Then put it in your conditions. At the moment this tends towards Cloudbet dining.
It is also mandatory to perform the KYC procedure from a certain amount according to Curacao. And that must also be in the conditions or elsewhere on the site. A lot has gone wrong so far. But I am also afraid that this will result in many victims, since the general terms and conditions are not good and they are not legally correct.


Not necessarily sure what your point is. Your issue was our terms and conditions etc. We stated clearly we are working on all these and other pages. This doesn't happen overnight. Those are the countries restricted by default. We are editing and modifying these information's. We know these are countries stated specifically by the curacao authorities. ( The Netherlands, France and the United States of America.) Other than this, there is a long list of country that we will be updating. These are very important information's and we do recognize that and are working on it.

We are not "Cloudbet" or other websites that has been accused of wrong doings etc. It seems you do not know anything about or platform. We started very little and we are rapidly growing and expanding our reach.
Not claiming to be an all knowing organism but an evolving entity that is accepting feedbacks and suggestions, making necessary changes and improvements as we progress.

With outmost respect, we request you stop throwing around outlandish and unfounded claims against us. We have been around for at least a few months, never confiscated any users funds and we do not intend to do so.
Our approach is to be community friendly and do our outmost to resolve any potential issues with our users within the applicable laws.

One of our goal is to become the most reliable, stable, trusted and of course provide the best gambling experience there is in the crypto space but, we do have to start somewhere. As always, we appreciate suggestions, pointing out of issues and criticism but what we do not appreciate is claims of malicious intents based on conjecture.




What will happen then if I register from the Netherlands then and make a deposit and want to withdraw? Do I lose my money?

Again, users from restricted jurisdictions are not allowed to access and or place bets on Betnomi.com . If we however determine a user from a restricted jurisdiction is using our services, we will void all their bets and refund their deposits. NEVER confiscate their funds.



What you mean by '' there is a long list of country that we will be updating''??

According to your terms, someone can register to you site, gable etc, only to find out later that his country is actually prohibited but was never listed in prohibited jurisdictions during registration?


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What you mean by '' there is a long list of country that we will be updating''??

According to your terms, someone can register to you site, gable etc, only to find out later that his country is actually prohibited but was never listed in prohibited jurisdictions during registration?
You missed the part where Betnomi said the countries listed there are by default. If you've followed the discussion here in past few days, Betnomi is using a template from another casino and they haven't updated many of the crucial information there, like the TOC, before they launched the website.

I know a member here, from the restricted country, who deposited recently and was even given by Betnomi a special deposit bonus. It's possible that Betnomi wasn't even aware of what country was prohibited until it was brought out or maybe they're aware but are planning to remove from the list. I don't think they will add restricted counties to the current list though as they want as many customers as possible.
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October 09, 2020, 03:58:10 PM
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@betnomi, I tried my best to search the whole website as well as this thread but there is nothing mentioned about the withdrawal fees. Is there any withdrawal fee applicable when I will go for a withdrawal or is it free? Can I withdraw any amount in USD or is there a minimum amount that I need to have before I can go for a withdrawal?
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October 09, 2020, 04:34:41 PM
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@betnomi

I found out yesterday that Betnomi offers special deposit bonuses from 40% to even 100% without any wagering requirement (reference). That means you can use the bonus however you want it, be it casinos or sportsbook. The limit is up to $100 though and this offer might end up soon (reference).
I joined there but while I see 3 promo on the front page there is actually no way to read any more information and after making the account I could find how to claim the bonuses or any link about it at all.

I see 2 promos on the front page that are welcome bonus and the free $50 esports bet but there is actually no page or link to read more about it like how to claim those bonuses. I tried my best and in the account section there is a link for Bonuses but there it shows as - No record found.

I would appreciate if someone can give a guide on how to claim those bonuses because there is no live support either who can help find more details. Maybe the casino is new and they are working about it yet.
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October 09, 2020, 05:04:34 PM
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@betnomi, I tried my best to search the whole website as well as this thread but there is nothing mentioned about the withdrawal fees. Is there any withdrawal fee applicable when I will go for a withdrawal or is it free? Can I withdraw any amount in USD or is there a minimum amount that I need to have before I can go for a withdrawal?


There is currently a withdrawal fee of +0.00040000 for BTC and of +0.00600000 for ETH. For other coins, the fees are negligible. The minimum withdrawal for Bitcoins is 10$ and for every other coins is 5$.





@betnomi

I joined there but while I see 3 promo on the front page there is actually no way to read any more information and after making the account I could find how to claim the bonuses or any link about it at all.

I see 2 promos on the front page that are welcome bonus and the free $50 esports bet but there is actually no page or link to read more about it like how to claim those bonuses. I tried my best and in the account section there is a link for Bonuses but there it shows as - No record found.

I would appreciate if someone can give a guide on how to claim those bonuses because there is no live support either who can help find more details. Maybe the casino is new and they are working about it yet.

We are currently optimizing our promo page to display details and rules of all our promos. Upon registration for new users, they will automatically receive a message with all our available promos and on login for existing users. There is going to be a lot of promos and bonuses available all the time. In the meantime, we are offering exclusive bonuses to the first few users that want to try our platform. Feel free to pm us for special bonuses.

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October 09, 2020, 05:50:45 PM
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Again, users from restricted jurisdictions are not allowed to access and or place bets on Betnomi.com . If we however determine a user from a restricted jurisdiction is using our services, we will void all their bets and refund their deposits. NEVER confiscate their funds.


I have doubt at beginning, Betnomi criteria on restricted jurisdictions is now very clear. If any clients unintentionally come to a gambling site, then put wager without recognize their standards and guidelines it's very right to remind him and make him to permit pull back his assets. This is the indication of any positive and trusted gambling site.
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October 09, 2020, 06:30:12 PM
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Again, users from restricted jurisdictions are not allowed to access and or place bets on Betnomi.com . If we however determine a user from a restricted jurisdiction is using our services, we will void all their bets and refund their deposits. NEVER confiscate their funds.


I have doubt at beginning, Betnomi criteria on restricted jurisdictions is now very clear. If any clients unintentionally come to a gambling site, then put wager without recognize their standards and guidelines it's very right to remind him and make him to permit pull back his assets. This is the indication of any positive and trusted gambling site.
Everytime users won't be kept under tracking, from which jurisdiction the person is playing. The team can't remind the user everytime, because there'll be users who use VPN to bypass and use the services. In this case if error arises, then it creates conflict. By that time surely there'll be controversy on refunding. Several such incidents have taken place on other Gambling platforms. Here betnomi needs to have a clear condition to be followed.

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October 09, 2020, 06:43:45 PM
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Again, users from restricted jurisdictions are not allowed to access and or place bets on Betnomi.com . If we however determine a user from a restricted jurisdiction is using our services, we will void all their bets and refund their deposits. NEVER confiscate their funds.


I have doubt at beginning, Betnomi criteria on restricted jurisdictions is now very clear. If any clients unintentionally come to a gambling site, then put wager without recognize their standards and guidelines it's very right to remind him and make him to permit pull back his assets. This is the indication of any positive and trusted gambling site.
Everytime users won't be kept under tracking, from which jurisdiction the person is playing. The team can't remind the user everytime, because there'll be users who use VPN to bypass and use the services. In this case if error arises, then it creates conflict. By that time surely there'll be controversy on refunding. Several such incidents have taken place on other Gambling platforms. Here betnomi needs to have a clear condition to be followed.

The problem is that Betnomi doesn't know what he's doing. He copies and pastes some things into the Terms and Conditions. Anyone can be that none of it is right. He uses a template for the conditions. As if we are talking about a menu of a restaurant. The attitude of the owner of Betnomi is also getting more and more unfriendly and arrogant at the moment. I think most people have now seen Betnomi's unprofessional behavior.
Anyone who does not know what the terms and conditions for a betting site should look like, and just copies and pastes from templates, should be marked as highly unreliable and risky.
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What you mean by '' there is a long list of country that we will be updating''??

According to your terms, someone can register to you site, gable etc, only to find out later that his country is actually prohibited but was never listed in prohibited jurisdictions during registration?
You missed the part where Betnomi said the countries listed there are by default. If you've followed the discussion here in past few days, Betnomi is using a template from another casino and they haven't updated many of the crucial information there, like the TOC, before they launched the website.

I know a member here, from the restricted country, who deposited recently and was even given by Betnomi a special deposit bonus. It's possible that Betnomi wasn't even aware of what country was prohibited until it was brought out or maybe they're aware but are planning to remove from the list. I don't think they will add restricted counties to the current list though as they want as many customers as possible.


Have read all pages from the beginning mate. In fact, i asked Betnomi 2 times to clearly state the prohibited countries but they haven't officially responded yet. Hope this time they answer
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October 09, 2020, 07:09:21 PM
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Everytime users won't be kept under tracking, from which jurisdiction the person is playing. The team can't remind the user everytime, because there'll be users who use VPN to bypass and use the services. In this case if error arises, then it creates conflict. By that time surely there'll be controversy on refunding. Several such incidents have taken place on other Gambling platforms. Here betnomi needs to have a clear condition to be followed.





Have read all pages from the beginning mate. In fact, i asked Betnomi 2 times to clearly state the prohibited countries but they haven't officially responded yet. Hope this time they answer

Our terms and conditions has been updated now to include all restricted countries. Please review on our website.

Not to be a resident of Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cayman Islands, Cuba, Cyprus, China, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, and other French territories, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong SAR, Hungary, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kahnawake, Libya, Macau, Myanmar, Netherlands, Netherlands Antilles, North Korea, Poland, Portugal, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Singapore, Spain, Sudan, Syria, The Philippines, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States and other U.S. territories, Vatican City, Yemen.

(please be aware of particular country exclusions for Casino – Games – Live Casino, Poker and Bingo); Betnomi reserves the right to block the access to Betnomi.com and not to pay the winning to the players from the mentioned countries.

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