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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Are new altcoins being too risky? Current market trend on: May 07, 2024, 09:54:39 PM
Old coins that have a good record then that is a better choice and less risky  like how i have invested in my coins in folio , but about testimony ?
what is this a health forum?  Grin Grin don't believe in stupid testimony because only scammers do that,  legit brand need not to talk alot instead let the investors dig for what they can give.
Exactly. The old coins with good stats are the best option for our investment. Even if it doesn't mean to have no risks at all, but it must be less risky than the new coins or meme coins. I don't know your portfolio, but I guess you mean you have invested in old coins with clear fundamentals. You also must prefer to choose the old coins that become the favorite of most investors. I guess most of your portfolio should be top coins. Is it correct?

By the way, what testimony do you mean? TBH, I never believe in the testimony. It should be rather subjective and difficult to trust. Moreover, when the testimony is made by random people. How we believe them?  Undecided

correct in this mate because we must not let our funds in long term for altcoins unless we are putting this in Ethereum or Solana .
Ethereum will be always recommended for investment. But I'm not really sure with Solana for the long term holding. Even if its popularity is rising significantly now, there is no guarantee this can continue in the next few years. I suggest to be more realistic to invest in the coins that become easily popular nowadays.

102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 07, 2024, 09:42:32 PM
It's better for Lukaku to join Saudi Pro League, if he continue to play in European team, he need to expect he will join mediocre team or second tier league. Any top tier teams will not want Lukaku since he can play for full time, become super-substitution and vulnerable against injuries.
Lukaku is 30 years old. He still can play in European leagues for 2-3 years at least. His performance is also not very bad, he still can contribute some goals in each team he plays. It is not a must to move to SPL, I think it is too early for him. If a player still can play in a good form, it is better to stay in European leagues because SPL isn't as competitive as European leagues.

FYI, Lukaku was the reason why Milan lose against Manchester City.
What match you refer to? Did Milan meet Man City in UCL this season?  Huh
Anyway, you can't blame a single plyer for the lose. It is the responsibility of the whole players and the coach as well.
We must understand that football is a team game. When a club failed to win, the whole players and the coach must be blamed.

103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 07, 2024, 09:16:44 PM
Dortmund are now through to the final. Great defensive and attacking play from them over both halves today and both legs during the course of 6 days. PSG out the pressure on as expected, throwing the kitchen sink at Dortmund and hitting the post and bar on many occasions over both halves.
Yep. Dortmund succeed to reach the final round of UCL this season. They really deserved it, they won the matches against PSG both in Leg 1 and Leg 2. It proves that Dortmund is more ready to play in the final round than PSG. It is actually quite surprising because most people favor PSG to play in the final round. Unfortunately, Dortmund could eliminated PSG, again Mbappe failed to win UCL trophy.

I agree Dortmund defenders played impressively. They could defend their leading with 1 goal until the end of the match. Although PSG played with a very aggressive attacking, Dortmund defenders never let PSG players to score even a single goal. It is a real wall of German team!

What next for PSG? Mbappe moves on at the end of the season, do they replace him with a world class player or stick to their desire to build with young players building the team around the team.
If Mabppe leaves PSG, PSG must replace him with another star player. I'm not sure if PSG must choose a young player to replace Mbappe. Sometimes an experienced old player will be more helpful and bring significant impact on the team. Osimhen is rumored to replace the role of Mbappe in PSG. I think it is a good idea to sign Osimhen because he is an experienced player.


104  Economy / Speculation / Re: Road to 100k? on: May 07, 2024, 08:57:07 PM
Having a plan before making an investment is of course very important, because if we don't plan well before making an investment it will be very unlikely that we will be able to carry out the investment well and be able to achieve what we want from the investment we make, prepare funds for emergency needs Before deciding to start investing, of course this is very important and we will be able to invest well without having to take out what we have invested when we need emergency funds that we don't know when we will need them.
It doesn't make sense to invest our money without making a plan first. It must be done first before we think to invest some funds into few coins. Planning covers everything, it is related to the goal, strategy, money management, and etc. If we have no plan, there is no way to run the investment because we must have no idea to do it.  Wink

Having a reserve budget is part of planning for every investor, but not everyone understands it. Having a reserve budget is necessary so that you keep your investment assets intact in the long term, while you can save and accumulate so that your portfolio continues to increase.
Does it mean the reserved money for our investment?  Huh
Sure, reserved budget is necessary. When it doesn't run as expected, so we need a little change in our investment. It sometimes requires funds/budget, the reserved money can be used in this situation.

105  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long to learn trading? on: May 07, 2024, 08:35:31 PM
Actually, it was the other year before they really understood the trading here in the cryptocurrency business field. Trading is a great deal, and there is no shortcut here, honestly speaking. From my own experience, it took me 3 years to fully understand it.
I agree with you. There is no instant way to understand trading, it should be based on a long process of learning. Trading isn't a simple thing that we easily understand, it is a quite complex thing. When we are trading crypto coins, we must understand several things at least:
- When we will buy the coins?
- How to choose the potential coins to trade?
- What our goals?
- What strategy to be applied for our trading?
- When we will take profits?

To understand those matters above, we need to have good knowledge about trading and we require to know much about crypto as a whole. We are also demanded to always update the information about the issues in crypto currently. This will be very helpful to determine what coins to choose and what strategy to be used for our trading.

We also need to know these things to support the continuity of trading for a long period of time:
- How to manage the funds?
- How to improve our mentality in trading?
- How to keep the spirit to trade continuously?
- How to improve the trading skills?

Sure, all of these things won't be achieved/mastered in a short time. I also need around 3 years until I have proper knowledge about trading.

And like everyone else, until now I have never stopped studying this trading because I still don't fully understand it, but I just understand it a little. And that's what an individual trader needs to do.
Yep. Learning about trading must continue, it is something that should never stop. The trends in the market always change, we can't rely on certain strategies on trading. That's why we must always learn it, we sometimes need to change the strategy. We also must know what type of coins that can be more profitable to trade. And there are many other things that must be constantly improved and updated.

106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: May 06, 2024, 09:59:24 PM
Real Madrid defeated Cadiz, a relegation candidate, and perhaps relegated Cadiz.In a match where even 1 point against Real Madrid was important for them, Real Madrid did not give them that chance.They will want to finish the league with one defeat.Cadiz, on the other hand, could not reduce the point difference with their rival Mallorca in the last 4 weeks.It is a little difficult to close the 6 point difference in 4 weeks, but it is not impossible.For them, it seems that the struggle will continue until the last 2 weeks.Although they do not have much chance, they have to try until the end.
Cadiz seems to have no chance to get out of the relegation zone. They have 6 points difference with Mallorca, it is very unlikely to catch Mallorca with only 4 remaining matches. Moreover, Cadiz still have 2 tough matches, they will play against Getafe and Sevilla. TBH, I don't see a chance of Cadiz to win against these teams. Cadiz may win in 2 remaining matches, it means they will collect 6 points. If Mallorca win 1 match from 4 remaining matches, it is enough to secure their position from the relegation zone. So, it is small chance for Cadiz to stay in La Liga for the next season.

Relegating teams are struggling this season. Cadiz, Granada and Almería are all going to be relegated from La Liga at the end of 2023/2024 campaign. Although Cadiz have a chance to survive and escaping odds from relegation can be actually accomplished.
Granada and Almería will drop out from La Liga. There is no hope to get out of the relegation zone.
Meanwhile for Cadiz, in theory it still has a chance to stay in La Liga although it seems very unlikely to be out from relegation zone. Cadiz must win all the remaining 4 matches if they want to have a chance to get out of the relegation zone. It is like an impossible thing for Cadiz now.


107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: May 06, 2024, 09:53:56 PM
He shown his team working in another situation when he already passed through the goalkeeper but did not shot, and decided to send the ball back to his team mate. Even it was not a goal because he was offside, it shows that Ronaldo at least in this match, did not only think about scoring goals.
Ronaldo showed his good attitude to his team mate in many occasions. He has a chance to make a hattrick in Saudi King Cup if he executed the penalty shot when they played against Al Khaleej. But Ronaldo preferred to give the penalty shot to Mane. This is another example that Ronaldo keep a good teamwork among the players in Al Nassr. As a captain, Ronaldo must keep this good attitude, he mustn't think to score many goals for his individual record only.

This will help Ronaldo to build up better relationship with his team mates and aim at a stronger squad to compete for more titles next season. With his ambition, titles are very important and so are goals.
Ronaldo seems to have a good relationship among the players of Al Nassr. If he can't build good relationship, he won't be the captain of Al Nassr. Sure, winning the title is more important than the individual record. Scoring many goals is good for Ronaldo, but it will be nothing if Ronaldo can't win the Saudi league with the whole players of Al Nassr.

108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 06, 2024, 09:44:04 PM
Honestly, Roma needed the win a lot more, they keep missing chances to pass Bologna, with 3 games left I think, it is not going to happen obviously, Bologna lost so many points in the last few weeks and Roma failed to capitalize on that every single time, when you miss your chances like that, eventually there will be no more chances.
Yep. The defeat against Bologna made Roma became difficult to finish the season in UCL zone. But AS Roma must forget it, they must focus on the remaining matches. If they can win all remaining matches, they still has a chance to finish in the 4th place. AS Roma will face Atalanta in the upcoming match, this match will determine the position of AS Roma and Atalanta in the end of this season. If AS Roma can defeat Atalanta, I'm sure AS Roma will play in UCL next season because the next 2 matches are easy matches. Genoa and Empoli won't be obstacles for AS Roma. But if AS Roma missed again the full points, they won't have a chance to play in UCL next season.

We should be seeing Roma staying at fifth, and to be fair Juventus is lucky as well because while they were a title contender during the first half of the season, they dropped to a level where Bologna could put them in fourth place if they are not careful.
If AS Roma can beat Atalanta, they probably finish in 4th or 5th place. But If AS fails to beat Atalanta, they probably only finish in the 6th place.
For Juventus and Bologna, the matchday 37 will determine their position in the end of the season. Which team that can win the match, will stay in the top 3 of Serie A. Bologna must beat Juventus if they want to overtake Juventus position. I think it is very possible because Juventus performance looks decreasing much lately.

109  Economy / Economics / Re: Harmful effect of robot to the world. on: May 06, 2024, 09:31:26 PM
You cannot expect that the development of technology brings only positive effects without negative effects, that is impossible. Like, why don't you think that without robots replacing humans there would be more workplace accidents? In addition, if you have ever operated and managed a factory, you will know how serious the damage will be if one day a worker suddenly quits his job and does not notify you in advance. That is also considered one of the disadvantages of using humans as labor while robots do not.
Everything in this world should have positive and negative side. It is true that we can't expect the technology brings no negative impact. Not only about robots, even smartphone brings some negative impacts for human. So, it is something we can't avoid, we only has an option to deal with the negative impacts.

Well, when we must quit the jobs, we must have other jobs to do. The robots may reduce the number of workers on the company. But the positive side is that people will be motivated to think more innovative to have alternative jobs.

I am also aware that, as technology develops, many people will be unemployed, but why don't we upgrade ourselves and adapt, instead of forcing the whole world to stop because of our backwardness? If you are afraid of losing your job or becoming unemployed, always actively improve your knowledge, qualifications, skills...to avoid being eliminated.
If the existence of robots will replace some jobs, people must move to other jobs. However, I think the robots won't totally replace the human jobs, it just reduce the number of the employees. And some jobs seem irreplaceable, it only can be done by human. So, I think we don't need to much worried about the future of available jobs for human.

Agree, if we don't want to be unemployed, we must have good knowledge. We also must have some skills that can be useful for varied jobs.

110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you increasing your bitcoin investments because of today halving ? on: May 06, 2024, 08:56:31 PM
Are you increasing your bitcoin investments because of today halving?
No, I'm not increasing Bitcoin investment because of halving. If you check the bullrun history, the peak of Bitcoin price wasn't in halving but it happened few months after the halving. Halving is just a trigger for the peak of Bitcoin price, it is not the end of the price growth. However, there should be some people who set their target on the halving. I think it is no problem, each person has his own goal. If you are satisfying to take profits during the halving, you can choose the exit earlier.

For how long do you plan to hold this new investment from here on.
Why you must asking this question?
Everyone probably has a different target, so they must hold for a different time duration.
I'm holding for 3-4 years. People who just bought Bitcoin this year, may hold for few months only.  Wink
How about you, dude?


111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 03, 2024, 08:41:08 PM
I don't expect the final between Bayern vs Dortmund to happen because it will be an uninteresting final, indeed in football the impossible can become possible if there is luck. But if this happens, maybe this will be a boring UCL final.
Besides it is not interesting, I doubt that Bayern Munich can defeat Real Madrid at Santiago Bernabéu. Bayern Munich can't defeat them in Allianz Arena, how they can win in Bernabéu? Personally, I don't see a chance for Bayern Munich in the final of UCL. Real Madrid should play in the final because the Leg 2 will give them a big advantage by playing at own stadium. So, it is very unlikely to see Bayern Munich in the final UCL this season.

Meanwhile, PSG will of course make a comeback in the second leg because they are playing at home, PSG's performance in the first leg was actually very good, it's just that they were lucky.
I also assume this to happen in Leg 2. PSG may come back at their own stadium, the aggregate is only 1-0, it is not a significant difference. Even if PSG failed to score in Leg 1, I see they have a big chance to score some goals in Leg 2. The ideal final Real Madrid vs PSG is still possible to happen if PSG can play more effectively in Leg 2.

112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 03, 2024, 08:31:22 PM
Aggregate of 2 goals seems to have ensured their position in the 2023/24 UEL Final. AS Roma must be able to score 3 goals but need to keep a cleansheet to go to the Final, which is difficult or even not possible, considering that Leverkusen is the club with the lowest number of goals conceded in the Bundesliga and UEL. This is a signal that Xabi Alonso's team has a disciplined defense so it is not easily penetrated by opposing players. In other side, Roma, doesn't have a good level of goal productivity this season, will definitely find it more difficult to win the match with 3 goals in the 2nd leg.
Basically, AS Roma still has a chance to qualify for the final round if they can win with 3 goals (without conceded a goal) at least in Leg 2. However, if we consider the performance of AS Roma in Leg 1, it is very doubtful that AS Roma can score 3 goals in Leverkusen home. They even failed to score a single goal at their own stadium, how they score a goal in Leverkusen stadium?  Roll Eyes As this is very difficult to happen, I can agree that Leverkusen has secured their position in the final round.

well, I think UEL will belong to Leverkusen this season.
Everyone must think the same, Leverkusen should win the trophy of Europa league this season. There is no other teams that have most consistent performance like Leverkusen. Leverkusen is showing an incredible performance during this season, no team can defeat them. They probably will secure the UEL trophy and unbeaten status in this competition.

113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 03, 2024, 08:23:01 PM
Quote
Zinedine Zidane would prefer to become coach of Manchester United rather than Bayern Munich!
Source: Transfer News Live
A very bold statement to make, to be honest. Because he knows that the careers of the coaches have not been good with Manchester United recently. And it almost feels like anyone coaching Manchester United has found only problems recently. Problems that are not fixed. I guess a lot of problems are going to be fixed if Zidane joins the club.
The source didn't explain anything that Zidane prefers to manage Man United over Bayern Munich. I'm trying to get further information about this but all of the sources never proved anything, there is no any statement from Zidane that saying he wants to manage Man United.  Huh

IMO, Zidane must have more advantage if they manage Bayern Munich because this team has good squad quality. Bayern Munich is also still one of the favorite teams in UCL, they very often win the domestic league (Bundesliga title). Zidane doesn't need an extra efforts if he wants to target for trophies on Bayern Munich. It is so much different if he manages Man United, he looks like to have no chance winning any trophies. Man United also doesn't play in UCL if they can't finish in the top 5. So, Zidane can't expect to win UCL trophy with Man United in the next season. Why Zidane should prefer managing Man United over Bayern Munich?  Huh

Moreover, we already know that Zidane ever refused Man United. If Man United tries to negotiate with him, I believe Man United will get the same result. Zidane has no interest to manage Man United, he should prefer joining other top teams in the world.

114  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bitcoin sebagai hadiah on: May 03, 2024, 08:10:07 PM
seorang dosen di cilacap, benar benar tanpa ragu memperkenalkan anak2 nya tentang bitcoin dan juga altcoin, bahkan di lansir dari berita online, masing masing dari anak2 nya yang berulang tahun di beri hadiah dengan jumlah yang berbeda beda.
Ini bukan cuman memperkenalkan tapi otomatis secara langsung menjadikan ketiga anaknya untuk menjadi bagian dari investasi crypto. Kalau cuman memperkenalkan harusnya belum sampe ke pemberian aset crytpo untuk ketiga anaknya. Ya tidak masalah kalau punya duit banyak, silahkan saja mau ngasih aset crypto atau apapun untuk anak-anak. Hanya saja dengan begini, mental anaknya tidak akan teruji karena mereka tidak butuh effort untuk punya aset crypto. Alangkah lebih baik jika mereka cukup diperkenalkan atau diajarkan, untuk mendapatkan asetnya mereka sebaiknya mengusahakan sendiri dengan kerja keras sendiri ketika sudah saatnya. IMO, mereka-mereka ini belum saatnya untuk punya aset sendiri meskipun bisa dikelola ibunya.

mungkin Bitcoin dan altcoins sudah sering terdengar di telinga banyak orang indonesia namun yang benar benar percaya pada potensi bitcoin di masa depan itu sedikit ~
Ini maksudnya gimana? Apa maksudnya potensi Bitcoin itu tidak bagus di masa depan?
Bagus atau tidaknya bergantung banyak faktor sih. Tapi menurut saya, potensinya tetap bagus sejauh ini asalkan memang paham secara utuh tentang aset crypto.

115  Economy / Economics / Re: Isn't it all about money? on: May 03, 2024, 07:57:03 PM
It is absolutely true that a person can never become successful or rich in the world just by having a degree or theoretical knowledge. There is no substitute for acquiring skill in the world, this skill can propel a man to the pinnacle of his success. Skill in the world is the sum of hard work and practice. And our degrees help us take this skill a step further. That is to be successful we need to combine hard work skills and theoretical knowledge.
Indeed. A degree never guarantees for a success in this life, but it can be very helpful in reaching the success. With a degree, we can easier to get the jobs because we have a higher standard in terms of formal education. In theory, we also have more knowledge when we already reached a degree on a certain education level. However, this won't bring nothing if we never have an experience in real jobs. Experience and skills sometimes can be acquired from real jobs, it won't be acquired in the university. So, it is true that these things are also important to make us successful in this life. Yep, combining the knowledge got from formal education and skills/experience is the way to succeed. We can't rely on the degree or knowledge that we acquire from the formal education only.

116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 03, 2024, 07:39:43 PM
Looks like they are maybe making the dream come true for getting the triple this season.
The german league title is safe , only the DFB Cup and the Europa League is very close.
Leverkusen has secured Bundesliga title, they already win 1 title at least. For DFB Pokal, they will in the final round against FCK on May 26. In theory, they will win the final round easily because FCK is only a small  team. The difference of squad quality is too significant, FCK won't have a chance to beat Leverkusen. Moreover, Leverkusen is on fire, they are in the best form during this season.

And for Europa league, they are leading the aggregate with 2 goals after beating AS Roma at Roma's stadium in Leg 1. Since Leverkusen will play at home in Leg 2, I think it is safe to say Leverkusen will win the match or get a draw result at least. So, Leverkusen probably will play in the final against Atalanta or Marseille. IMO, these teams are below the quality of AS Roma squad. I think Leverkusen will be easier to play against them.

On the paper i would say that for the todays evenung game between Hoffenheim and Leipzig , that Leipzig will win.
But sometimes Hoffehiem surprises and i really dont know who will win.
I guess i will going for an win for Leipzig.
Leipzig is leading with a single goal now. Sure, Leipzig is the favorite team to win the match. Leipzig must try with their best effort to get full points because they want to secure their position in the UCL zone. So I am not sure if Hoffenheim can make a surprise in this match. I personally think Leipzig must win this match.  Wink

117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 02, 2024, 09:07:37 PM
Tottenham are one of the most unpredictable teams now when we look at the premier league stand because there are continued to show that they are really not a team to carry at heart and they continue showing this always and I really don't know what's going on with the club, I think they should look for other ways to fixed their problem because I see that team having a big problem and I doubt they will finish at spot that offers any European football.
Tottenham performance is decreasing a lot, they got 3 defeats in a row. They have no power to steal points against big teams in EPL, it is proven that they got no points in the matches against Newcastle, Arsenal, and Chelsea. It will be worse because Tottenham still have the matches against two big teams (Liverpool and Man City). I'm afraid that Tottenham will finish the season at out of the top 5.

Well, they seem having a serious problem. The players may not trust on the coach anymore. They have bad tactics and have no winning mentality. Sure, if they still have a dream to play in UCL or UEL for the next season, they must fix the problem soon.

118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: May 02, 2024, 08:56:37 PM
Barcelona and Girona match this weekend will be the tough match of the week of laliga, the last time these two teams met was not good for Barcelona because Girona beat Barcelona to the extent that even Barcelona fans are not happy and are blaming the coach for it, but I think on this coming match Barcelona will try to fight back because I believe if not because of Barcelona are not in good shape from the beginning of the league it will be difficult for Girona to beat them, Barcelona are going to Girona home and Girona is a very strong opponent but that every team finds it difficult to defeat them in their home but let see what Barcelona can do during the match.
Yep. This will be an interesting match because the result of the match may determine the position of both teams. If Girona can win the match, they will overtake Barcelona in the 2nd place. But if Barcelona wins the match, they will be in the runner-up position with more comfortable points. Barcelona has a a chance to wider the point gap with Girona.

If we look at the current performance of both teams, Barcelona is better. Even if the match will be in Girona home, I think Barcelona will be the favorite team to win the match. Sure, Girona performance is decreasing a bit but it doesn't mean they can't make a surprise. For me, Girona is still the same team that may defeat Barcelona again.

Concerning Real Madrid, Real Madrid will win against Cadiz and I think after Real Madrid plays against Cadiz I think they will be crowned as the laliga champion of this season, I know that Ancelotti will try anything to make sure he wins the match and he will surely put Arda Guler in the because of his last performance, Arda Guler has become the favorite of Real Madrid now and next season Ancelotti will like to be giving him time the way he wants.
I also think Real Madrid will have no problem to win against Cadiz. But Ancelotti must consider to rotate the main players, Real Madrid needs to give more time for the substituted players like Arda Guller. Real Madrid still has a tough match in UCL, they need to keep the main players in a good condition. So, Ancelotti should try to rotate some players.

119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are you taking advantage of this red market? on: May 02, 2024, 08:44:43 PM
Honestly I thought it would come back up yesterday but until now it still has not gone back up and is still fluctuating below 57k. It can definitely make an investor rethink whether to buy now or not. My best advice would be to not hesitate for too long as you might just miss out entirely on entering the market.
The price of Bitcoin has increased a bit now but it is not quite significant. It is around $59k now, it makes investors to have a new hope for the next pump. However, for the old investors, I'm sure they won't be afraid about the current situation in the market. They will take the advantage of the drop in price, they will buy as many as possible. But for the new investors, they probably feel doubtful, they won't buy because they are not confident with the future of crypto market. We can understand why the new investors may fee afraid, they may know some negative news during the correction. It is no problem if they don't want to buy when there is bad news.

120  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Now that Bitcoin halving have been completed, what next? on: May 02, 2024, 10:53:57 AM
If you ask what's next after the halving, I think now people are waiting for the new ATH price that Bitcoin can reach. Even though miners get lower rewards than before, if the price of Bitcoin can rise very high, they can make a profit. They will probably keep their Bitcoin for a while until the price of Bitcoin goes up.
People are waiting for the next pump, but they must be aware of the current situation. With many FUDs and the hype of halving's gone, there is no way of the new pump in the near future. The market tends to decrease gradually in the next few weeks or months. It may have another big pump when we are reaching the end of the year. As far as I know, it needs some months after the halving to see another big pumps.

Miners should keep their Bitcoin, they know it is not the right time for taking profits. As the miners, they must understand the market characteristics.

Yes, the market will respond positively to this halving but we still have to be patient because it won't happen instantly. Maybe there will still be a few months away from a positive response and if there is a price movement later, we can start preparing with the selling price we want. We must be able to remain patient and wait until the price can rise higher.
I personally don't have idea about how market will respond the halving. No one knows if the market will respond it positively or negatively. I think we only have an option of waiting for the response, it ideally takes few months. Just learn how the market condition after the halving in the previous season. You may get some clues about how long the market will be in a correction or sideway phases.

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