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1021  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 27, 2023, 09:49:58 PM
Ya semoga saja demikian, tapi memang benar, saya akan selalu menambahkan DYOR/NFA di akhir prediksi saya. Karena saya sendiri juga masih belajar, udah 3 tahun ga pinter2, sering mleset, lebih banyak main game daripada belajarnya sih  Grin
Selama agan tambahkan keterangan DYOR/DWYOR/NFA, orang-orang harusnya paham maknanya.  Wink

Kita semua masih dalam tahap belajar dan akan terus belajar. Sebab yang namanya belajar itu tidak ada habisnya. Masalah akurasi prediksi itu sebenarnya hal yang lumrah, toh namanya juga prediksi. Sekelas expert pun bisa salah dalam memprediksi, apalagi kita yang masih perlu banyak belajar.

BTW, sepertinya ada pergerakan positif dari BTC dalam 2 hari terakhir, jika misalkan BTC bisa ke 32K+, maka akan membentuk higher high ke-3 (TF 1D), pada resisten sejak Nov 2022, ini tentu bisa menjadi pertanda bagus, jika nantinya terkonfirmasi bisa breakout di 32K+. Kalau ditarik ke belakang, ada resisten di area $34.5K yang terbentuk pada Juli 2021, mungkin ini akan menjadi point retest selanjutnya jika terjadi konfirmasi breakout.
Rasanya masih lanjut sideway Om. Kemarena sempat mau naik ke $30k lagi tapi pada akhirnya malah balik mendekati $29k lagi. Misalnya pun ada potensi naik dalam beberapa hari ke depan, saya rasa masih bakalan di kisaran $30k-$31k. Mungkin di bulan mendatang baru bisa up ke $32k dan seterusnya. Situasi market masih belum banyak perubahan, perlu booster good news untuk naik ke titik resisten selanjutnya.

1022  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 27, 2023, 09:36:22 PM
A player like Mbappe in this situation when he is in his good form will lever choose money and join the Saudi teams instead of playing for top-level teams, Mbappe knows that he can play in Europe for years, and then when he is about to get tried he can join the Saudi teams.
Do you think Mbappe prefers to get the huge money from Saudi than realizing his dream to play with Real Madrid?
If you're following the news, you must know that Mbappe only wants to move to Real Madrid only, he rejected the offer from the Saudi club. I believe Mbappe still focuses on his career, money isn't everything for him. In the last season, he already decided to choose money from PSG, he ever rejected Real Madrid offer. I assume he will be no longer to choose money, he even reject the contract extension offered by PSG. I heard the rumor that Real Madrid already got a personal agreement with Mbappe. It means, the problem is only about the transfer fees, it is between Real Madrid and PSG management. I am sure, finally PSG will accept the offer from Real Madrid.

By the way, when he played in SPL, I'm sure his career will be decreasing. SPL is not as competitive as Europe competitions, it can reduce the interest of European clubs. So, his market value is probably decreasing a lot during playing in SPL. I think Mbappe is aware about this, he will stay in Europe with any reason.

1023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 27, 2023, 09:25:45 PM
When Barcelona sold out Aubameyang that was very good to them,and was even scoring goals back to back for them,instead of them to keep him to compete with Lewandowski,they went ahead and sold him out forgeting the fact that players sometimes becomes tired as a result of fatigue.Lewandowski might still be scoring the way he was scoring,but if he should get injured,I think it will really be hard for Barcleona because he is the only striker that can give them the number of goals they would want.They are currently building the team around young players and if they should want to sign a new attacker,it should be a young player that has great potential,and it should also be a young kid who is not injury prone.Nervertheless,the transfer window is still some weeks away from closing,and anything can still happen.
I'm also a bit disappointed with Barcelona, they kicked out Aubameyang who already contributed a lot for them. Aubameyang actually have proven that he deserves to stay in Barcelona, he scored some important goals for Barcelona. Sadly, Barcelona prefers to sell him, they ignore Aubameyang's contribution after they signed Lewandowski. Even worse, they also sold Depay, they may try to decrease the players' budget salaries at that moment. However, I think it becomes a problem in the next season if they only have 1 striker for the whole season.

Sure, there are still few weeks until the transfer window is over. Barcelona still has enough time to sign a new striker. But there is no any rumor about the plan for signing a new striker for the next season. They signed Vitor Roque but he is available for the season 24/25.

1024  Economy / Economics / Re: What are some financial secrets that you know of? on: July 27, 2023, 09:03:29 PM
What are some of your wealth secrets that you could share with us?
I don't have secret tips or certain ways to be rich. All of them are common ways, everyone knows it very well.
- To increase our income, we need to have more jobs
- To decrease spending, we must limit the budget to use
- To use the money wisely, we need to use it for necessary things only
- If we have free money/excess money, don't put all of them on banks. It is better to have investment, there will be potential profits in the future.

That are some ways I always apply in my life. There are many other ways, but I think they are the most necessary ways to know. But I assume all of them are just common ways that everyone knows it. Anyway, what is your secret, dude? You should tell us first before you ask people's secret.  Wink

Buying homes with cash and taking loans out on it?
It should be better to buy with cash, with our own money.
Buying homes with loans will burden our financial stability. Moreover, if we have no steady job with a stable income. It is better to avoid buying a home with loan money.

1025  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mentalitas yang kuat juga diperlukan dalam trading jangka panjang on: July 26, 2023, 09:56:30 PM
Tapi bagi pemula memang cukup sulit mas menentukan mana altcoin yang berkualitas dan tidak berkualitas.
Jadi sepertinya memang harus lebih banyak belajar lagi untuk analisa-analisa dan semacamnya. Supaya bisa memilih mana yang berkualitas dan mana yang tidak berkualitas.
Sebenarnya tidak terlalu rumit untuk menganalisanya. Ada hal-hal umum yang biasanya kita cek untuk menentukan apakah altcoin tersebut berkualitas atau tidak. Produk, background developer/team, sponsorship, kekuatan komunitas, dan legalitas adalah beberapa hal umum yang kita perlu perhatikan untuk menentukan apakah koin tersebut berkualitas atau tidak. Hanya saja yang sulit adalah terkait akurasi dalam menganalisanya, ini semua bergantung wawasan dan pengalaman.

Dan sepertinya soal modal yang dipakai pun memang harus yang uang sisa aja ya mas. Jadi ketika dibelikan ke altcoin juga tidak akan terlalu banyak pikiran karena khawatir rugi
Ini hal yang sudah disepakati bersama. Kita semua mesti paham resiko investasi altcoin, jadi sudah seharusnya hanya menggunakan uang lebihan saja. Bukan dana yang diperuntukan untuk kebutuhan pokok.

1026  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 26, 2023, 09:48:38 PM
But considering this is just a friendly match during pre-season, then I don't think the two teams will play very seriously. Arsenal have 2 finals for their next 2 matches anyway between the Emirates Cup against Monaco and the FA Community Shield against Manchester City in the first week of August. So they will definitely avoid a lot of problems, especially injuries to their players.
Of course, it is just a friendly match, it won't be a very serious match for them. Moreover, Arsenal and Barcelona still have many schedules for the next matches, they will try to play safely. However, it is interesting to know how Arsenal and Barcelona will use the strategy in the match. And which players to be released in the match will be another interesting part, too. Although they don't target to win the match, but I'm sure they will try to play with their good performance to entertain the fans. So, the match between Arsenal and Barcelona will be still interesting to watch.  Wink

1027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: July 26, 2023, 09:43:27 PM
Gambling as a source of income is completely out of the box, on the wrong track, and it doesn't always end well, with account and debt liquidation being the terrible conclusion.
If people gamble with no proper way, it probably ends up badly. People have no money, they must try to take a loan. They try to chase winning to pay the loan, but it even leads to more losses. That's why gambling with the loan money isn't recommended, it is too risky. I never tried to gamble for a loan money, I just stop gamble temporarily if I have no more money.

Gambling with a sophisticated set of disciplinary guidelines that is going to help in the improvement of one's performance and strategy formulations for gambling. I've been gambling for years and can confidently declare that I'm a profitable gambler since I constantly retraced my steps, faults, as well as weak points. Then I proceeded forward and corrected them in small increments.
You may be successful with that way, but not every gambler can be lucky as you. There is no specific way to be successful in gambling, it is mostly about the luck. If there is a specific way to succeed, all gamblers may be successful as well. I also gamble for years, and I still have no exact strategy to win constantly.

1028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 26, 2023, 09:35:31 PM
I think Barcelona still should make two transfers to specific areas. These areas are defensive midfield and centre-forward. Because in the defensive midfield there is still only Oriol Romeu. Of course players like de Jong and Kessie can also play there. However their main positions are central midfield so it is better to use them there.
Agree. Those 2 positions have no proper substitution players, even I don't think Oriol Romeu will be strong enough for defensive midfielder. Barcelona ideally must bring a stronger player in the position, but Barcelona has the problem with their financial. It makes them difficult to buy new players in the current transfer window.

For the other position there is only Lewandowski there. Barcelona don't need to spend so much money for bringing a striker. They can even loan someone who can be useful in Lewandowski's absence. Signing a backup striker should be even the priority for them.
They may expect Lewandowski can always be in his good condition. We know he rarely got injury, he has a good fitness. But I agree that it is not impossible for him to get injury during the whole season. Sure, Barcelona should get a loan for a striker at least, it is the best option that they can do. There are many strikers who want to play with Barcelona.

1029  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency to be used as an investment asset on: July 26, 2023, 09:21:36 PM
You have a good point here, I do agree if you already invest in Bitcoin investing in most altcoins is not a diversification since most of them follow bitcoin price.
Yep, most of them follow Bitcoin price but not every coin follows Bitcoin price. Meme coins and stable coins sometimes can increase their prices differently, we often saw they are increasing when Bitcoin price is decreasing.

But I think when most people talking about diversification in crypto is to diversify their altcoin choice if they choose to invest in altcoin,
What do you mean?
Sure, people have the option for diversification on altcoins. However, there are some people who invest in Bitcoin only because they don't want to take bigger risks in altcoins.

I mean like it's better not to put the fund 50% on Bitcoin and 50% on Ethereum, instead 50% Bitcoin, 10% ETH, 5% BNB, 5% ADA, 10% LTC, .etc. Because Bitcoin is the top of mind, a must buy if people want to invest in crypto
Mostly people prioritize to invest in Bitcoin, they probably put 50% of their money in Bitcoin at least. While for altcoins, it can be varied, it depends on how many altcoins they want to invest in. Every investor can be different about the percentage on dividing the money in to altcoins.

1030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC or altcoin on: July 25, 2023, 09:59:25 PM
Simply put, Bitcoin can be purchased and held indefinitely. However, the altcoins market is not like that and there are risks such as a sudden drop in the price of a token that cannot be recovered later. In my opinion there are many coins that have been in the market for a long time but their token price is dead.
Bitcoin is the most trusted coin for investment. If we don't want to deal with altcoins that are riskier than Bitcoin, just buy Bitcoin only and hold it on the wallet. However, I think everyone must have the target to take profits from their Bitcoin investment, they won't hold it forever.

Indeed. There are many altcoins which drop their prices and never returned to their best prices. It is different with Bitcoin, Bitcoin always creates a new ATH in every new halving. That's why it is trustable and people prioritize it as the main asset.

~but there are also many people who are rich as a result of investing in altcoins such as in ethereum , shiba inu, doge, pepe and others, but the choice is in op hands because investing in any crypto is still very risky.
Yep. There are people who can take huge profits from altcoins because altcoins basically are more volatile than Bitcoin. It enables the altcoins to increase more significantly than Bitcoin in a short time. But if we don't understand how to analyze the potential price growth, we instead got huge losses because it also means the prices possibly drop even more.

We must understand this: more volatile, it means the chance for both a more significant increase and decrease.

1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: July 25, 2023, 09:56:50 PM
I have heard and read about people gambling because they had no source of income,  a job or they wanted to add gambling as part of their streams of income.
How they gamble if they have no source of income? You must know that you need money to gamble, gambling isn't for free.

Anyway, it is quite strange if there are people who rely on gambling for their source of income. Everyone understands that the chance to win is rather small, that's why some people gamble for fun only. How we rely on gambling for the source of income if we rarely win the prizes? It is simply not reasonable. So, you need to look for a job in real life for the source of income.

1032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 25, 2023, 09:51:05 PM
It is true that Mbappe is not included in their target striker list because Barca are self-aware of their financial condition, this is just news that seems to be delusional. Mbappe on the other hand, will not leave for free and PSG will not let that happen.
Of course, Barcelona won't target Mbappe that requires a huge money to pay the transfer fees and pay his salary. Also, Mbappe never showed his interest to join Barcelona, he wants to join Real Madrid (the rival). If Mbappe wants to move to La Liga, I believe he will only join Real Madrid. Sure, he won't go for free if he moves in the current transfer window. But if he moves in the next year, he will be a free agent and PSG won't get any money for his transfer fees.

But I don't think Mbappe will go to the SPL, even if he gets a fantastic contract and salary. Playing in Europe will give him several prestigious trophies such as the Champions League, you can try the SPL if you are aged 30+.
It is clear that Mbappe won't move to SPL.
The latest news that I hear, Mbappe stated he prefers to stay in PSG than moving to SPL (Saudi).
Mbappe cares about his future, he still dreams to win UCL.

1033  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if salaries were paid in BTC on: July 25, 2023, 09:40:34 PM
A friend of mine in our discussion today about Bitcoin was insisting that salaries and wages be paid in Bitcoin in some countries.
I was of the opinion that the government will not allow fiat to be replaced by Bitcoin.
It depends on the laws/regulation on the country. In my country, you can't use Bitcoin to pay for goods or services. It can be used for an investment only. So, there is no way to pay the wages/salaries with Bitcoin. The owner of the company will be imprisoned and pay a fine if he/she forces to pay the salaries/wages of the employees with Bitcoin. But in the country that Bitcoin is legal for any purpose (including for payment tool), a company may consider to pay salaries/wages with Bitcoin. For example, if the company is located in El Salvador.  Wink

1034  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 25, 2023, 09:24:37 PM
Saya anggap aneh kalau harga btc malah ngikutin harga altcoin di bawahnya.
Mungkin bukan mengikuti harga altcoin di bawahnya tapi harga BTC bisa ikutan naik karena itu dianggap kabar bagus* untuk dunia crypto. Kalau XRP saja bisa menang atas gugatan SEC, berarti yang lain pun seperti Binance juga bisa ikutan menang. Pada akhirnya SEC secara tidak langsung tidak dapat mendikte proyek-proyek crypto.

Kan yang dikhawatirkan SEC menyeret satu persatu proyek crypto.

*Kabar bagus (positive news) bisa meningkatkan optimisme para investor, demand bisa up.

Apakah ada kemungkinan untuk bitcoin koreksi dibawah harga $28k atau justru menjadi momentum bagi Bitcoin membuat harga tertinngi baru setelah stuck di area $32k?
Tentu ada kemungkinan turun di bawah $28k kalau BTC gagal naik lagi ke $30k-$31k. Apalagi jika diikuti adanya bad news beberapa hari ke depan. Tapi kalau sebaliknya, harusnya BTC bisa naik lagi ke $30k-$31k dalam waktu dekat. BTW ini hanya asumsi sederhana saya, bukan prediksi dengan pertimbangan berbagai faktor yang kompleks.

Siap mas, cuma belum terbiasa aja kalau sampai ada yang ngikutin dan pas analisa salah, saya yang disalahin  Grin
Tidak ada yang bisa menyalahkan, Om. Toh itu juga kan murni prediksi, tidak ada jaminan benar dan Om juga tidak menyarankan membeli. Bagi yang mengikuti silahkan tanggung sendiri resikonya, kan sudah dibilang DWYOR.  Smiley

1035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 24, 2023, 09:59:52 PM
I thought that Al-Ahli would offer a contract of a few years to Mbappe. But they have offered great conditions to him. He will earn that insane sum of money in only one season indeed. In this case I absolutely think that he should accept the deal and move on. 776m euros for one season, it is just an amazing deal!

They claim that Mbappe and Real Madrid have already agreed for a deal for next season by a free transfer. Meanwhile Mbappe can take this formula and earn that much money. I don't think it is meaningful for him to stay at PSG this season instead.
Al-Ahli must offer 4-5 years contract for Mbappe. But I don't think Mbappe wants to move to Al Ahli. Although he will get a huge amount of money in Al Ahli, but they can't get the chance to win UCL trophy and other big trophies. He must stay in Europe, he must choose a top club like Real Madrid if he still wants to win more top trophies. For me, I think he must refuse the offer from Al Ahli, Real Madrid is the best option.

Indeed. Real Madrid has got the personal agreement with Mbappe. It means Mbappe agrees to move to Real Madrid. He just waits for the response from PSG management about the transfer fees. If Real Madrid can pay the minimum transfer fees, they must get a deal with PSG management.

By the way, I really hope that Mbappe stays in Europe league. It is just a stupid idea to move to SPL.

1036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 24, 2023, 09:57:16 PM
Kylian Mbappe's move to Barcelona would be brilliant if finances were right. Barcelona's finances prevent this. Let's not despair: they're still Barcelona, right? Xavi navigated the team through several hurdles last season. Even without major transfers, they can defend their title with the appropriate strategy.
Yep, Barcelona has the problem with their financial. It seems impossible for them to sign Mbappe. They have no money to pay Mbappe's transfer fees and his salary. Only the top club has huge money that can sign Mbappe, Real Madrid is one of the top clubs that are very serious to sign him. I never hear other top clubs in Europe that really want to sign Mbappe, including Barcelona.

Real Madrid is difficult without Benzema. It will be intriguing to observe how Ancelotti compensates for this loss. Coaching and management are vital in these times. Barcelona has potential, ambition, and a strong squad despite financial challenges.
What loss do you mean?  Huh
Even if Benzema leaves, it doesn't mean Real Madrid will get loss forever.
If Real Madrid can sign a new striker that has the same level with Benzema, Real Madrid can be strong again. We mustn't doubt the coaching ability and management skills of Ancelotti, it is already proven enough. What Real Madrid needs is a strong striker only, it is the main problem for now.

I think Real Madrid and Barcelona have the same opportunity and ambition. They only have the difference in the squad stability. Barcelona looks to have a more stable squad right now.

1037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will the altcoin go up in price if the bitcoin price goes up? on: July 24, 2023, 09:49:24 PM
but sometimes bitcoin and altcoins move together, but you can be sure that if bitcoin has increased then altcoins will also experience it,
It is the common scheme, Bitcoin increased first and it is followed by altcoins.
I already learned this for a few years, this happens constantly and the scheme is the same. But not all altcoins follow Bitcoin, there are some altcoins that increase in their own ways. Meme coins and stable coins are the examples of the coins that often don't follow Bitcoin. They still can increase although Bitcoin is decreasing a lot.

i guess it also heavily depends on the general sentiment of the market, its all honestly never repeating the cycle of the past, maybe rather rarely repeating the cycle since bullrun always have different trend and the rising of altcoin in general are all always at different time after bitcoin bullruns.
The market sentiment or the issues around crypto is always influenced the prices of crypto coins. Regarding the cycle, we know that 4 years cycle always repeats although it is not 100% the same. Many people are motivated to buy crypto coins because of this cycle. They believe the cycle will always repeat in the future.

1038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 23, 2023, 09:59:06 PM
Well i think that Napoli will be able to keep Osmihen for at least another year. No body wants to pay a big fee for him currently so i think he will stay. If they are able to extend the contract with him that would be a big deal for Napoli because they will have an elite striker for a little longer
It is possible that Osmihen plays in Napoli for 1 more season. Or he may decide to play in Napoli until his contract is over in 2025. But I think he still think about leaving if there is a serious offer from a top club. There are some top clubs that still looking for a top striker. As far as I know, some top clubs are interested to sign Osimhen (Man United, Chelsea, PSG, Real Madrid, Liverpool, and Bayern Munich). These clubs are still possible to sign Osimhen, especially Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, and PSG.

Mbappe should start thinking on how to win UCL and also win other trophies so that he will have the dreams of playing in Real Madrid after the end of his contract with PSG. Other clubs needs his skill and contributions to the team work and he shouldn't just be static in his football career.
He already won varied trophies, only misses UCL trophy. Besides Real Madrid is his dream club, Real Madrid is the most winners in UCL. So, it is actually a perfect destination for Mbappe to move to Real Madrid. Since his relationship with PSG is getting worse, he is better to leave as soon as possible in the current transfer window. I bet he won't feel comfortable anymore to play with PSG, that situation can impact negatively for his career if he tries to stay again and again.

1039  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading tips that helpfull for beginners on: July 23, 2023, 09:55:02 PM
The problem with some beginner traders is that they usually think that trading at a bigger capital will also gain higher amount of returns. That is a wrong mindset since you can’t expect that trading will certainly be profitable in the end. The reality is, the bigger money you trade, the bigger amount of losses will be. Unless if you become a professional trader, you can always increase the size of your trades.
The beginners who think it will be effectively using bigger money, probably they don't learn enough about crypto trading. If they learn properly, they must understand that it is better to use small money first. Every beginner must focus on learning, know first how to trade in a proper way. But for the beginners who don't really care about learning, they can be greedy because they are too obsessed with big profits. They may not realize about the risks in trading, they only think about the potential profits.

1040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Time for bounties and airdrops as we near bull season on: July 21, 2023, 09:23:52 PM
of course bounties and airdrops are still an effective way to generate coins effectively.
If the purpose is to collect the coins are many as possible, bounties and airdrops can be effective ways. But most of them probably end up with no value, very small chance to have tokens/coins with good values from bounties or airdrops.

I'm not the person who's interested to collect no value tokens/coins. That's why I'm not joining any bounty paid in new altcoins or airdrop anymore.  Grin

you can get this information easily in this forum to get a bounty.
What information do you mean?
Sure, there are many bounties but most of them are difficult to expect for proper earnings.

to get airdrop information, you can get it through various telegram channels.
Be careful, many telegram channels can't be trusted. It is better to find bounties/airdrops with your own way (take own research).

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