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881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 28, 2023, 09:46:20 PM
Rayo Vallecano performed very badly in this match, of course, because they let Atletico Madrid party in that match. Atletico Madrid were lead 0-7, it's all over for Vallecano today. This was an easy match for Atletico Madrid which in the end made some of Vallecano's supporters have to go home before the match ended, of course this was due to their very disappointing performance.

This is one of the worst days for Rayo Vallecano and certainly for Stole Dimitrievski. He has so far collected 7 goals from his goal in which he has conceded almost every attack built by Atletico's players.
It is surprising that Rayo Vallecano is conceded 7 goals in this match. Actually, they started this season very well, they won 2 first matches without any conceded goal. It means their defense quite strong although they just played against weak teams. Against Atletico Madrid surely will be hard, but no one must expect Rayo Vallecano defenders played so badly today. Well, winning with 7 goals means a lot for Atletico players, it showed they have a better motivation this season. Especially for Morata, he looks to compete for the top scorer now. I hope Atletico will always improve their performance during this season, and Morata will maintain his good shape.

882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 28, 2023, 09:35:39 PM
I think those 2 goals weren't meant just for Liverpool, but it meant a lot for Darwin Nunez as well. Indeed, it cannot be assumed as a sign that Nunez will shine this season but at least that will be a motivation for Nunez to continue to perform optimally. Nunez could not make a significant contribution last season and I thought, he definitely didn't want to get stuck with last season's poor performance.
Agree. Those 2 goals showed the quality of Darwin Nunez. It proves that Liverpool didn't make a mistake by signing him. So, people shouldn't doubt with the future of Darwin Nunez in Liverpool. Although it is too early to judge Darwin Nunez will perform better in this season, but we can't deny it is a good sign for him. If he can maintain that good performance, surely he will play better than the last season.  Wink

Newcastle were unlucky in that match even though they deserved to win it.
There were plenty of good opportunities they missed that ended up costing them overall, but a loss like this was a real shock. I don't expect Newcastle to lose when they really dominate attack but what can they do because all those mistakes come at a cost.
It is a football match, bro. Even if a team can dominate the match, it doesn't always guarantee to win. Newcastle has done everything, they really dominated the match. But they are unlucky, they can't score more goals although they have more players in the field since minute 28'. Liverpool never give up, they could score 2 goals toward the end of the match. Newcastle must forget this, they must focus on the next matches. It is still the early of the season, there will be many opportunities to improve their position on the table.


883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 28, 2023, 09:20:21 PM
An agreement appears to have been reached between Manchester City and Barcelona for right-back Joćo Cancelo. Barcelona agreed to sign Joćo Cancelo on a season-long loan with a permanent buy-out clause at the end of the season. Of course this is good news for Barcelona considering that Xavi has prioritized the right back since Dembele left.
Yep. Barcelona finally got a deal for signing Joćo Cancelo. Barcelona officially loaned Joćo Cancelo with a purchase option. It is good news for all Barcelona fans, Barcelona will have a strong player in the right back position. So far, Barcelona only has Sergi Roberto on that position, Barcelona won't have an option if Sergi Roberto got injured. By signing Joćo Cancelo, Xavi can rotate 2 players. Joćo Cancelo also can play as left back, so Xavi can put him at that position if it is needed.

- https://lastwordonsports.com/football/2023/08/28/barcelona-joao-cancelo-loan-deal-agreed/
- https://www.barcablaugranes.com/2023/8/28/23848732/deal-on-joao-cancelo-set-to-fly-to-barcelona-to-complete-move-to-xavis-side

Barcelona may soon announce the signing of Joćo Cancelo in the near future. I'm happy with the arrival of Joćo Cancelo because Barcelona haven't really had a true right-back so far. He will be useful in the squad and it will help Barcelona a lot this season.
Sure, there should be an official announcement in the near future. And we also will see what the jersey number will be used by Joćo Cancelo. Well, having a new top defender like Joćo Cancelo should be an advantage for Barcelona. Moreover, Joćo Cancelo can play in some positions. So, Xavi can have many options to use now.

884  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does monitor size affect trading? on: August 25, 2023, 03:20:13 PM
Is it just for aesthetics? or does trading on a big screen have an effect on the outcome of your trade. I often see that professional traders have created a work space for themselves where they invest heavily into hardware and big monitor screens. So I wonder if trading on bigger monitor screen has a better effect on trading because I think that with the big screens a trader will be able to make better analysis.
No, a bigger screen won't have a significant impact on the outcome of trading. Knowledge, experience, and good mentality are the big factors that can bring impacts on the outcome. Professional traders use big monitor, top hardware, and decorate their work space to make them more comfortable in trading. They must spend a lot of time to trade daily, they will make the work space to be as comfort as possible. So, it is very clear that there is nothing to do between the size of monitor with the outcome of trading.

885  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: August 25, 2023, 03:04:07 PM
Tidak ada pergerakan berarti dalam satu minggu terakhir ini, dan nampaknya para pelaku pasar lebih cenderung untuk wait & see. Untuk arah trennya memang agak susah diprediksi, alias naik bisa turunpun bisa  Grin. Kemungkinan yang sedang ditunggu oleh para pelaku pasar adalah aksi dari whales ataupun kebijaksanaan baru dari FED terkait interest rates (yang jelas jika interest rates dinaikkan lagi, maka minat terhadap BTC akan kembali turun).
Iya Om, tidak ada kenaikan yang berarti, harga cenderung terus turun akhir-akhir ini. Setelah gagal mencapai titik aman resisten yang lebih tinggi, pastinya orang-orang memilih wait and see dulu. Jaga-jaga kalau harga masih akan turun lagi, apalagi tidak adanya good news yang mampu mendongkrak harga secara instant.

Terlepas faktor whales ataupun FED, Q3 memang waktu yang pas untuk aksi beli lagi sebelum mencapai kuartal terakhir tahun ini (Q4). Karena rata-rata prediksi mengatakan harga akan cenderung terus naik ketika mencapai akhir tahun karena sudah mendekati jadwal halving BTC di tahun mendatang. Selain itu, harga turun saat ini masih masuk akal jika kita analisa dari pola chartnya. Bahkan masih mungkin sampai ke $23k seperti prediksi Kaptensaham 707.

886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 25, 2023, 02:41:33 PM
Milan managed to get perfect points in the first match. Not only that, Pioli's troops were also able to show a good game, so that the fans were so sure about the composition of new players who were able to make a big contribution. But of course it's not the right time to judge a team because it's just the beginning.
Yep, AC Milan won the first match against Bologna, they got full points. However, I don't think AC Milan played quite impressive, Bologna dominated more the match if you checked the stats. Bologna won the ball possessions, they also made more shot attempts (17 shots). Luckily, AC Milan played effectively, they could convert 2 goals although they only made 9 shot attempts. I think AC Milan must play more offensively for the next matches. They can't play too defensively when they play against stronger teams.

I predict that the competition in Serie A this season will be very competitive and there will not be one team that will dominate like last season. In fact, I didn't even include Napoli as a candidate for the championship this season because other teams like Juventus will be back in the competition.
It is still too early to judge the competition will be more interesting. Although all the top teams (Napoli, Inter, Milan, Juventus) of Serie A got a perfect result in the first match, we don't know how their performances in the next few matches. Sometimes there are teams that decrease their performance towards or after the middle of the season.

887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can money be saved in gambling sites? on: August 25, 2023, 02:07:41 PM
Is good to save money for future use so we can make good use of it when ever we need to, now what if you decide to save money in your betting account will that be possible to?
Sure, it is possible. But why you choose gambling account to save money? Don't you think it is very risky, dude? You could spend all the money in a day if you can't control emotion to chase your losses someday. Or the money can be trapped on the gambling site if someday you can't access your gambling account anymore. I think for savings, put the money on banks or convert it to gold should be a better option.

I know it might be very hard to save money in a gambling site because we  might have the feelings of winning if we try to stake, it can be hard for a gambler to save money in a gambling site but it will be easy for a non gambler,~
Non gamblers will never think to register on a gambling site, they won't create a gambling account. Even someone never gambles, it doesn't guarantee he won't gamble forever. How if someday he decides to gamble and spend all the saving money on the account. Someone who has lack of experience in gambling, probably has a bigger chance to play excessively.

888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Top altcoin that you won't buy anymore on: August 24, 2023, 09:59:10 PM
What is the name of that Top altcoin that you won't buy anymore??
Doge is one of the top coins that I have no plan to buy again. I stop buying Doge because I think the hype of meme coin is over already. Since Doge just relies on the hype to increase its price (especially Elon Musk factor), it won't be the right way to expect on this coin for a long run.  Grin

XRP is another one, I stop buying this coin after it has a bad issue with SEC. I won't risk my fund on a coin that has no clear future. Although I heard the updated news that XRP won against SEC, I prefer to see and wait first. As long as it still has bad issue, I think put the money in this coin isn't so different like gambling.

I also stop buying LTC, EOS, and Waves. These coins were popular coins but they are decreasing their popularity severely. I think they will be hard to rise their popularity again because there are no something new on the development of the projects.

889  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mentalitas yang kuat juga diperlukan dalam trading jangka panjang on: August 24, 2023, 09:57:09 PM
Ini benar sih kadang kala pengalaman itu pudar seketika ketika kita termakan hype yang ada dan pada akhirnya jatuh dalam lobang yang sama. Tapi kalau udah pernah merasakan pahitnya kerugian di awalnya jadi mentalitas seseorang akan semakin kuat bila mana ia kembali rugi dalam ber trading crypto. Memang pengalaman dan mentalitas yang kuat harus di miliki seseorang dalam memasuki perdagangan crypto karena sering kali kita di kejutkan oleh crash yang besar seperti saat di penghujung tahun lalu ketika luna dan ftx ambruk yang membuat pasar kacau.
Sama kayak iman, mudah goyah kalau liat sesuatu yang menggiurkan.  Cheesy

Betul, mereka yang pernah merasakan rugi atau sempat punya pengalaman buruk, mesti selalu ingat dan berpikir ulang jika ada godaan yang sama. Harusnya tidak akan mudah untuk termakan hype lagi karena sudah punya pengalaman. Hanya saja, tetap perlu mengasah mentalnya untuk lebih kuat dengan menambah wawasan dari berbagai sumber, termasuk dari pengalaman orang lain.

Yang namanya market crypto, itu akan selalu banyak kejutan. Jadi harusnya trader ataupun investor paham betul dengan hal ini.

890  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Do you think privacy is important for a beginner? on: August 24, 2023, 09:51:52 PM
but I feel it's difficult to implement if all things still need KYC. Everything in this world still needs fiat to exchange our necessities, just a few needs we can exchange with Bitcoin. So that situation, we still need fiat where we can't get it on DEX. According whit this, I often see people who buy KYC and bank accounts just to hide their real identity to register CEX.
Agree. To create bank accounts and to register on top CEX, both are needed our privacy data. Although we are aware that it is very risky, we have no choice because it is the requirement. Not everything can be fulfilled by a decentralized service like DEX, we still need centralized services such as CEX and banks. So, it seems still impossible to keep privacy data totally.

About beginners, I rarely see them care about privacy. I know that because I see them in droves registered in CEX just to buy and sell crypto with fiat.
It is because they don't really understand about the risks. Or they just hurry to join CEXs because they want to earn money as soon as possible. Newbie has a lack of knowledge, we can understand if they seem careless to keep their secret data.

891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 24, 2023, 09:42:15 PM
The competition to become Real Madrid's main goalkeeper in my opinion is not the most interesting thing to discuss repeatedly, of course, because in my opinion we already know the difference in the qualities of the two goalkeepers.
For me, it is also interesting to discuss, why not?
Although Kepa may have more experience and most people assume he has a better quality, we don't know how Ancelotti thinks about it. So far, Ancelotti prefers Lunin to replace the position left by Courtois. I assume Ancelotti has a big reason to put Lunin as the main GK now.

Ancelotti borrowed Kepa from Chelsea to become the main goalkeeper due to Courtois' injury. Meanwhile, Lunin, who incidentally is Real Madrid's second goalkeeper, will still be Ancelotti's second choice, unless Kepa has performed poorly in a number of matches. Kepa Arrizabalaga is one of the good goalkeepers so far in Europe, but I don't think Lunin has been on the same level as Kepa.
I don't know if Ancelotti ever stated that he borrowed Kepa to be the main GK of Real Madrid. But surely Ancelotti needs a new GK because Real Madrid only has 1 GK left (Lunin). If there is something wrong to happen with Lunin (injured), Real Madrid will have no option for GK if they didn't have a new GK. Since Kepa seems to have a good quality, Ancelotti borrowed him from Chelsea.

892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: August 24, 2023, 09:23:02 PM
I do not think Ronaldo will stop playing at the end of his contract. He likes this game very well and with the way he plays, it is obvious that he still wishes that he was young. Ronaldo will not retire at 40, he would like to play for as long as his body can permit. So, what I feel is that he will have a contract renewal at the end of this one, and it may be even better because of what has been offered to other European players that have moved to Saudi Arabia's league. Al Nassr will try to beat it, to keep him happy.
Agree. He is unlikely to retire in the next 2-3 years. When his contract expires with Al Nassr, I believe he will move to another team. But I think he will leave Saudi league, I doubt he will stay in SPL. He is a typical player who wants a new challenge. So, it is very possible that he may consider to go back to his country and joins Sporting again. Well, as long as he still has no problem with his fitness, Ronaldo seems to have a desire to play.

it is very possible, we can see his performance so far. Ronaldo is still able to play up to 90 minutes of normal time. Ibrahimovic is another player who was active until the age of 40, Ronaldo could be next on this list.
Yep. He can play full time and he has no problem with his fitness. So, there is no reason for him to end his career soon.

Anyway, not only Ibrahimovic, Buffon is also a player who can play above 40 years old.

For a new contract extension, I doubt it a little. Because he has reached more than 40 years of age, injuries will usually become close friends at that age.
Al Nassr may not extend his contract if he couldn't show his best again. But I doubt if Ronaldo will often get injured when he s 40 years old. He commits to keep his good life and always do exercise, so he is very rare to get injured.

893  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: August 23, 2023, 09:47:47 PM
kemarin saya sempat membaca saat hari dimana BTC koreksi tajam ke $25K, kalau ada kemungkinan BTC breakdown ke $23K, tapi sejauh ini pergerakan harga sudah cederung ke arah positif. Sepertinya masa-masa koreksi sudah kembali ke tren naik. Kalau saja menyentuh support $23K, saya yakin akan terjadi kepanikan yang lebih dari apa yang terjadi kemarin. Untuk saat ini masih sideway di $26K, kalau misalkan bisa ke $27K lebih cepat, mungkin ini akan berada di zona yang lebih menguatkan tren.
Saya juga sempat lihat salah satu prediksi (Kaptensaham 707) yang menyatakan BTC mungkin turun ke $23k jika melihat pola chart BTC akhir-akhir ini. Cuman itu semua memang hanya sebatas prediksi dan cocoklogi, meskipun kadang history bisa berulang jika ada kesamaan pola chart. Namun kadang fakta lapangan sering berseberangan dengan prediksi. Ketika banyak prediksi mengklaim harga akan terus turun, maka sebaliknya harga akan mulai naik. Tapi jika banyak prediksi menyatakan harga akan melonjak, kadang di situ titik awal penurunan harga.  Cheesy

Harga saat ini sudah di atas $26.5 dan sepertinya cenderung ke arah $27k. Jika bisa sampai ke $27k dan bertahan di area tersebut, saya juga beranggapan jika masa-masa dump sudah berakhir. tapi DWYOR ya.  Grin

894  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Do you think privacy is important for a beginner? on: August 23, 2023, 09:39:10 PM
I think it will be very different for each person, and not because a beginner on an expert just personal preference. For me I wouldn't mind sharing my real name, email or a country where I live in for them to know my timezone to any person who I want to have business with, like a potential client. For some people even a real name is a privacy they wouldn't give their real name to any person they meet online, even when they meet on a real world they would still use a fake name, I don't think that's wrong tho, just a preference. On the other hand, I wouldn't give my address, my age, or other non-business-related or personal information, but some people would just give those detail easily to everyone they meet. I am not going to judge them, I just think that's risky.
Everyone needs to be careful with their privacy whether a beginner or an expert. Ideally, we don't share whatever the personal information to random people. I also never share my real name, my residence (address), age, email, country, or anything related to my secret information. Even I rarely posted photos on social media to avoid the misused of hackers. We must be aware to keep our privacy because hackers are getting smarter. Moreover, the technology always develops, there will be more ways to hack/scam people. So, it is stupid if someone easily share their personal data to random people. Or share the information to social media channels.

895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 23, 2023, 09:24:21 PM
I'm not completely sure but as I can see Tottenham's situation is even getting worst than last season and they are losing more players because we knew Kane was an important player, they lost him and never bought a player to fill his place and now when Hugo Lloris is getting near to end his contract with Tottenham they are not considering any option to buy a goalkeeper for the next season.
Although Tottenham sold some players, they also could sign many players during this transfer season. There is no problem with Tottenham squad, they look good. They can show positive results in the first 2 matches in EPL, they even could beat Man United which becomes the favorite team to win. It indicates Tottenham still can perform well without Harry Kane.

Regarding Goalkeeper, Tottenham already signed Guglielmo Vicario as their new GK. We can see Vicario to adapt quickly and could show his quality in the early of EPL matches. Especially when Tottenham played against Man United, no conceded goals. It means Vicario can replace Lloris's role perfectly. Tottenham is no longer to depend on Hugo Lloris, he can leave when his contact expires.

896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 23, 2023, 09:07:56 PM
I wouldn't say Pochettino did a bad job. He is progressing well with Chelsea. Chelsea may not win well in the first two matches. But their performance is not as weak as last season. Their performance is very organized. Pochettino has worked to strengthen the bond between the players. But the problem is that Chelsea's squad is still not strong enough. Chelsea's attack is a bit weak. Pochettino needs to add another experienced striker to the attack. Also Chelsea's biggest problem right now is their defence. They lost badly against West Ham because of poor defence. Chelsea conceded 3 goals. West Ham only had 24% ball possession in this match. They still managed to score three goals. If the defense cannot be strengthened, the expected good performance from Chelsea will not be seen in the upcoming matches.
If Chelsea performance has no change (still bad), how we can say Pochettino do a good job?
You admit that Chelsea still has weak attack and fragile defense. They even couldn't win in the first 2 matches in EPL. TBH, I don't see something different between Chelsea in the last season and the current season. Pochettino still can't build Chelsea properly, he needs to show us a positive progress. If there is still many problems in Chelsea squad, I'm not sure he will manage Chelsea a long time.

By the way, we can understand if Chelsea couldn't win against Liverpool. Got a draw is not a really bad result. However, defeated by West Ham with 3 conceded goals is something unacceptable. Although West Ham has some good players, but Chelsea squad should be stronger. There is something wrong with the tactics if Chelsea defense looks so fragile. Pochettino is the man who has the responsibility of this problem.

897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do star players affect the odds of a match bet? on: August 23, 2023, 08:50:51 PM
I don't think just one individual player, no matter how much of a star he may seem to be influences much. Football is a team effort irrespective of the contribution of one or two players who may seemingly perform and play better.  They've been multiple instances where not so strong teams having the better chances of winning when going up against stronger teams having the best players.
I agree that football is a team game, not an individual game. So, cohesiveness or compactness is more influential than the big name of one or two players. That's why sometimes a smaller team can beat a stronger team if the small team can cooperate better. A star player in a strong team can be useless if they can't play as a solid/cohesive team. However, if a star player plays in the right team, he can make a difference because he has the ability above the average players. You can see Messi, he can lead Argentina to win world cup and lead Barcelona to win many trophies because of his special ability. Whenever he played, he can attract most defenders of the opponents because he is difficult to stop. He has extra ordinary skills in dribbling, so it becomes a big challenge for opposing defenders. With this situation, there are many opened spaces to attack because most the defenders will try to stop Messi. It is the reality of how a star player can contribute much to increase the winning chance. So, many people place a bet on the team where Messi plays.

898  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: August 22, 2023, 09:59:04 PM
Media merupakan jalur cepat untuk menyampaikan FUD ke seluruh penjuru dunia untuk memanipulasi harga. Bisa jadi Tesla tidak menjual apa pun supaya perusahaan mau borong lagi di harga rendah, Elon juga setahuku tidak begitu gembar-gembor jika mau menjual, tapi ketika sudah terjual dan duit cash sudah ditangan, baru dia ngomong kalau sudah jual, supaya bisa buyback di bawah harga jual. Ya begitulah, waktu selalu berputar seperti biasa, hal ini sering terjadi beberapa kali, namun akhirnya tetap pemenangnya si holder yang tetap tenang di tengah badai.
Tentu. Apalagi media ternama, orang-orang pasti mudah percaya dengan berita apapun yang mereka siarkan. Padahal berita dari media ternama sekalipun belum tentu valid, kita sendirilah yang harus cross-check tentang kebenarannya. Seperti berita Elon Musk, Space X, ataupun Tesla yang dirumorkan menjual aset BTCnya saat ini. Sama sekali belum ada bukti jika mereka benar-benar menjual aset BTC mereka. Bahkan ada sumber yang menyatakan bahwa berita penjualan aset BTC tersebut tidaklah benar: https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1692295710962483253.

Yang saya heran, mengapa isu yang belum tentu valid bisa sampe memicu harga BTC langsung terjun bebas. Ini entah holder BTC yang terlalu mudah termakan isu dan panik, atau memang ada manipulasi harga BTC oleh kelompok whales tertentu. Tapi saya lebih cenderung melihat ini sebagai manipulasi market.

Terkait Elon Musk, jangan lupa kalau Elon Musk bukan investor kemaren sore. Tidak mungkin orang sekelas Elon Musk gegabah menjual aset BTCnya di harga yang masih di bawah harga beli mereka (jual rugi). Elon Musk bukan seperti kita yang harus menjual aset BTC karena kebutuhan mendesak untuk beli beras. Seorang seperti ELon Musk harusnya tipikal investor long term, targetnya untuk jangka panjang. Makanya tidak masuk akal jika Elon Musk menjual aset BTCnya ketika market saja belum sampe ke tahap bullrun season.

899  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When Trading becomes Unfavourable on: August 22, 2023, 09:56:10 PM
Sticking to the original trading plan is actually good but there are circumstance in the course of the trade that will necessitate a change of plan that's why as a trader always have a contingency plan/strategy for every trade you execute so you don't get stucked in the middle of a trade that's not going in your favour and needs an immediate change of action you don't start working on emotions and blind trading.
Agree. There is a situation when we must change the plan, we can't force to stick on the original plan forever. That's why a trader must have several plans, don't make a single plan only. I sometimes do cutloss or change my trading style if it is needed. I also won't stick on my original plan if it looks bad for the future. We must have the ability to analyze the future of the market and our coins, so we can adjust the plan or the strategy.

Well, the point is whenever we realize our plan is no longer effective, there should be a change. But if the plan looks still effective enough, we are better to stick on the original plan. Sure, the change is needed if it is likely to get stucked and not favorable anymore. However, we don't change the plan because we panic or emotion. It should be according to a deep analysis.

900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 22, 2023, 09:50:09 PM
Hugo Lloris has entered the last year of his contract now. There have been many rumours so far like he will leave the team this summer. But he is still at Tottenham while there isn't much time left for the end of the transfer window. There was news like he was going to go back to where he started which is Nice. However it didn't happen. Now Lazio are another team being interested in him.

Tottenham have been looking for a goalkeeper as well depending on Lloris leaves soon as far as I know. As his worth in the market is nothing now Tottenham would like to have his last season with themselves and then release him I guess. It depends on how serious Lazio are in this interest on one hand as well of course.
Tottenham already have some GKs, they even just signed Guglielmo Vicario from Empoli. With many options for GK, I believe Hugo Lloris will leave Tottenham on June 2024. He has no reason to extend his contract with Tottenham, he already spent a long time with Tottenham and now he should get a new challenge before retiring. The rumor where he will move, isn't very clear. Sure, if he decided to go back to his country, he can join Nice or Lyon. However, I don't hear any serious offer from these clubs.

Not sure if Lazio really wants to sign him. Lazio must look for a younger GK if they expect for a main GK in their squad. They also still 3 GKs, so they are actually not in urgent for a new GK. I doubt Hugo Lloris will move to Lazio.

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