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101  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin Is Property Not Currency on: April 04, 2014, 02:11:10 AM
So,  does anyone have or know of an application or program that can look-up the value of a Bitcoin for a specified date and time?

I have a spreadsheet with lots of small transactions and I'm dreading manually querying bitcoin charts to record the average daily value.


thanks


https://blockchain.info/api/exchange_rates_api
https://blockchain.info/api/charts_api
102  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: eBay DELETED my auction for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin! on: April 04, 2014, 12:31:46 AM
Well, if anybody wants them from here and would rather pay with bitcoins, just win the auction and we can arrange a bitcoin payment in lieu of GayPal. I have 100% positive feedback on eBay, so I'm a trustworthy seller, and we can do escrow if you still want added security, but you have to pay the additional escrow fee.

You ought to check out cryptothift.com.  F' ebay.



103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has anyone else ever had Avast antivirus put a new block in quarantine?? on: April 04, 2014, 12:22:38 AM
So I always have qt running along with avast anti virus. And just a few min ago avast detected infections in 4 files. First, blk00129.dat, most recent block at the time based on date added. It lists virus name as 10 past 3.
The other files isolated are .sst (x2) and .log 

Anyone else have this kind of thing happen?

Perhaps a virus signature based on a bitcoin address?
104  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Whats your wallet balance? on: April 03, 2014, 11:15:45 PM
Lets see how wealthy our community is  Tongue

Why is NoyB not an option?

105  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: For those of you who say governments can't ban bitcoin on: April 03, 2014, 10:59:22 PM
The Lib$ markup was very high.
They were backed by real metals in a warehouse.

I get it why some would be nostalgic for the pre-1933 system of money being backed by precious metals, but such a system has a centralized point of failure.  In the case of Liberty Dollars, it was a warehouse that could be seized by the government, and with pre-1933 USD, it was Fort Knox, which suffered the same fate.

106  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: F*ck China! :-) (curren situation...? on: April 03, 2014, 10:36:46 PM
My take is that Communist countries are not good markets for Bitcoin.

I disagree.  Probably the best market for bitcoin, since no bank would hold your assets, and it's possible to move them without being monitored by a statist government.  The problem is just in exchanging in the system outside of monitoring.
107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC Call to Arms on: April 03, 2014, 10:27:39 PM
mmm.
So, we need support for contracts.  We need support for proving that exchanges actually have all the coins they're promising to have at any given moment.

We have a global open ledger.  We need to fix it so we can use that to eliminate fraud.  THAT is when we will have a good answer to the people who don't wanna be us because we are vulnerable to fraud.

There are systems for that can be put on top of bitcoin, bitcoin denominated debit card transactions, checks, etc.   Bitcoin in it's rawest form is like cash.  You can't change the inherent properties of a currency to prevent fraud, i.e. you can't change the design of a $100 bill to prevent it from being stolen from you.

108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here's an interesting question.... on: April 03, 2014, 10:21:03 PM


The plan is to auction them as seized property.  



That doesn't sound very nice.
What if the person that buys them get's them at a favorable price and decides to dump all of them at once when the price is good enough for them?

Price crash once again.....   Undecided

I think they should just destroy them  Grin
Much better for mankind!

That's just what is done in the War on Drugs.   Blame Reagan-era laws for that.

Also blame DPR/Ross Ulbhricht for being dumb enough to leave a hot wallet with $80 million of his personal stash of bitcoins on the same laptop that he used to administer Silk Road, only an expensive password attack away from seizure.   Otherwise the feds would have had only $20 million.
109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC Call to Arms on: April 03, 2014, 10:10:47 PM
Nice idea......painfully weak ending.
You want to tell the whole world we are lemmings who mindlessly say HODL?
You are expecting that to actually help?   Cheesy

I think the best way forward is to SPEND rather than SELL or HOLD.   There's no value to bitcoin if it isn't being used like money.
110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here's an interesting question.... on: April 03, 2014, 10:06:53 PM
OK, I know that the SilkRoad case is still under investigation but....

What will happen to all the seized coins after the case is closed?

Logically those coins should be destroyed, but is there any way to prove that they are?

The plan is to auction them as seized property.   

111  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: McCutcheon v. FEC on: April 03, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
Has a $10,000 purchase of bitcoins recently been stopped by the government?

Florida v Espinoza and Reid
The premise for these two cases is very different. Florida v Espinoza and Reid involved an undercover agent attempting to purchase $10,000+ in bitcoin which would be used to buy stolen credit card information (not to mention the issues raised in armspir's above post). The case states the purpose of the bitcoin purchase was known by Espinoza and Reid. While it is possible for Espinoza and Reid to beat the charges for other reasons, I can't see how it would fall under the first amendment.

Although I believe the cases were entrapment, I think adding on the criminal aspect to the transaction was a move by the prosecutors to bias the court, the charges relating to MTL is what they want to stand on.  The defendents were dumbasses for continuing with the transactions when criminal activity was mentioned, the money involved must of overcame the their internal bullshit detectors.

112  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: McCutcheon v. FEC on: April 03, 2014, 09:53:43 PM

It's similar to arguing that 1st amendment rights allow a political contributor to donate anonymously, which seems counter-intuitive.

The Supreme Court has long held that anonymous speech is protected under the First Amendment.

It's not absolute,  the state would argue that it's in the public interest to unblind actors that are involved with what is supposed to be a transparent system of government,  in the case of AML/MTL regs, the state's argument is that it is in the public interest to protect us from those that fund bearded men in caves that plot to attack our country.

113  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: McCutcheon v. FEC on: April 03, 2014, 08:50:51 PM
Has a $10,000 purchase of bitcoins recently been stopped by the government?

Florida v Espinoza and Reid

At issue there is if the Espinoza and Reid complied with the money transmitter laws of the state of Florida, not if the transaction was prevented.  (And the defense may be able to beat the case on that point).  The transaction isn't prevented if the parties involved complied with the state MTL regs, which admittedly are burdensome.

It's similar to arguing that 1st amendment rights allow a political contributor to donate anonymously, which seems counter-intuitive.

114  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: McCutcheon v. FEC on: April 03, 2014, 08:15:08 PM
These amounts are much larger than some bitcoin transactions that have recently come under scrutiny.  I suspect it won't be long before someone claims their $10,000 purchase of bitcoins is protected under the First Amendment.

Has a $10,000 purchase of bitcoins recently been stopped by the government?

115  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitstamp going paranoid about ID verification on: April 03, 2014, 08:09:10 PM
I don’t know about you guys but I find this an outrageous request. Especially after trying to follow each of their previous instructions to the letter. I’m actually not sure if bitstamp is messing with me or if they have such little trust in potential customers these days. In case anyone’s interested I can send the whole conversation via PM. I will be looking for another exchanger now and I regret sending them any personal documents in the first place.

See which of your elected representatives voted for the Patriot Act, and the onerous KYC/AML laws that followed, and vote them out.   You can't blame Bitstamp for trying to run a legal business.

116  Economy / Service Discussion / ZipZap back in the bitcoin business? on: April 03, 2014, 08:06:00 PM
https://cashcoin.zipzapinc.com/

I noticed a new external link in my blockchain wallet.   It appears that ZipZap is getting back in the bitcoin business, and replacing the hole left by bitinstant.com

117  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: For those of you who say governments can't ban bitcoin on: April 03, 2014, 07:55:36 PM
The only thing a gov can do is TAX it, nothing else.

I came across this will reading about the history of currency:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Notes_Tax_Act_1910

Essentially, in 1910, the Austrian government put a 10% tax on the creation of bank notes that were not the official Austrian banknotes.

I'm wondering if any attempt has been made in Austria to apply this to bitcoin.

118  Economy / Economics / Re: Would people pour their cash into bitcoin given a stock market crash? on: April 03, 2014, 12:41:43 AM
Probably not.   Bitcoin's future growth depends on companies that invest in innovation, and an economy where people are buying things beyond necessities.
119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the community ready for a global trade ban of bitcoin? on: April 02, 2014, 11:25:20 PM
Bitcoin doesn't appear ready for an incoming China ban, let alone the world.
The China "market" was a naive pipedream.  China has some of the most stringent capital control measures in the world.  Bitcoin is simply a bad fit in China.

They are just a bunch of ignorant narrow-minded speculators who simply want to make some bucks.   They could care less about the Bitcoin technology and innovation.  Hell, they could care less about the idea of innovation, period.  Their government is Communist, for pete's sake.

Glad they are out.  Maybe now the price will settle up and stay there.

I disagree.  The China market grew because of capital controls in China, and seemed to be away around them for people that live under that government.   I hope Chinese citizens push their government to start loosening these controls.
120  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese exchange BTC38 Suspends Trading on: April 02, 2014, 08:16:21 PM
What does this mean exactly?

Is the pathway for a Chinese citizen getting Yaun to and from a Chinese BTC exchange going to completely close, or is it just more difficult?
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