I did read that, it was pretty cool with all the pcutures of the burned ram and stuff, but to be honest no matter how many of those cerenomies are performed, I would never trust a coin that needs for the developers to do all that fancy stuff when there are other coins that don't need you to trust on that. I will wait to see how ZCash classic does and maye I buy some just in case it pumps heavy on Poloniex, but its already 0.005 and right now ZEC is 0.15 or something.

While I encourage that as well, especially putting some coins up for sale at bitsquare the decentralized exchange, I don't think there's really any kind of liqudity that is better than the other. They serve different functions, and both are important. In fact, a shorter HAS to buy back, a seller doesn't have to buy back. With a short you are thus guaranteed the liquidity both ways.

u asked how a NXT asset get send over bitsend chain and i said it dont.......

anyway if u understand it now everything is fine

How does a nxt asset get sent through the bitsend chain? does it get sold and converted first?

+1

There's this common misconception about people selling (or worse: shorting) that they are hurting the coin. You'll notice that people who are bearish tend to get more hate directed towards them. It makes perfect sense, because if you hold and the price is going down it hurts. And who's causing the price to go down? Well obviously sellers/shorters. Shorters becomes an enemy to blame for ones own losses, an outlet for all the frustration that builds up during a long drawn out and bloody beartrend.

While it's easy to fall victim to this sort of thinking I believe this view is narrow minded and here's why:
Without opposing forces the price may go higher, but it will be on low volume and the crashes will be much deeper. In a sense the price becomes more artificial the less volume is involved and the less liquidity is available. Sellers/shorters provide a very important function in the market, that is: liquidity which prevents the price from going too high, and also liqudity that prevents the price from going too low (shorters must close their short, traders who sell buy back). These opposing forces work beautifully to stabilize a market and avoid even higher and lower spikes that we would have had without them. The more opposing forces in a market the more stable it becomes. Stability is GOOD for the coin, not bad.

Can we think of any example where there are no sellers and shorters? Yes. Zcash. There was almost zero supply as it launched and no way to properly short, and the consequence of that was a launching price that went beyond 2 million USD. The ATH has been set and we'll never see prices even remotely close. If there had been sufficient amount of sellers or shorters, this would not have happened, the price would have reflected reality better. I don't think it's heatlhy for any coin to have such raises like we've seen in zcash. And as we've just witnessed, without sellers/shorters, that's what you're gonna get.

If you really wanted to help liquidity you wold put those coins on other exchanges and set up some trading bots.

please explain how they hurt the ecosystem  in your view

a healthy lending market does nothing but support the ecosystem, since it enables a variety if financial strategies and tools (e.g. hedging) for all market participants.

you seem confused really. protecting shorters? we make shorting possible in the first place. if they get rekt by doing so is not my decision.

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now when u utilize a coin balance in a way that need value conversion then this conversion will be done by the noblepay plattform

example u want to pay a € bill with bitsend via SEPA transaction

then noblepay will calculate how much bitsend needed for that amount of €
reduce ur bitsend balance and create the € SEPA transaction towards the target bank account...

The best reasons that I've heard is.

1) Its difficult to integrate. Jaxx (a wallet / exchange service) has apparently put like 80% of its effort into integrating Monero over the past month or something, and its still pending.

2) Even after integration, its hard to pull the volume from the main exchange. Case in point, bittrex lists monero, and a new one (https://tuxexchange.com/) even had a free monero giveaway to attract users.  So after all the effort of integration, there's no guarantee that your exchange will reap the same rewards as Poloniex.

So I think it does have to be a much larger market cap, perhaps.

becasue you are not happy with the rate or what exactly is it that makes you feel anger regarding the liquidity providers ? (besides apparent buthurt)

its probably mine so i take your talk personal.


are the bad bad shorters going to dump it ? 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRKU4-ZhHl8

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Peter Todd posted his trusted setup description.  It is long, still reading it.

https://petertodd.org/2016/cypherpunk-desert-bus-zcash-trusted-setup-ceremony

Their information is very out of date. The current state of the art in both bandwidth and power consumption is to stack memory dies directly on top of logic dies and interconnect them with microscopic thru-silicon vias:

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what usecase u talking about?...

Polo buy side up to 4000 BTC and sell side is sub 300K XMR....

Unusual.  It looks bullish, but volume dropping and it doesn't look like a solid breakout. Yet.

TA freaks welcome to comment, of course.  I am wondering what it means.

That is why I practice hodling + drinking!

Bitsend used to be LIMX, now the dev changed it so it can be a remittance service / anon coin for european federation of coins. Kind of like their own personal western union for trading between federation coins.

Nice suppression right here.


Anyone that can't see through that deserves to lose.

meh.

http://prntscr.com/d5zqze

If you dont care is fine. I asked and replied on two posts that I read here. Seems some people care about Jaxx wallet. And my post was a question to @catalan123  what the hell he talk about. And I posted link to all the details of Monero integration on all nine Jaxx platforms.

why u think a NXT asset is send through bitsend chain?

all that happend is that BSD Bitsend is added to noblepay and get all abilities there of a full member coin

same as NOXT NOBLE ERC DMD

I think Jaxx is adding coins to their platform massively only this year.