We have recently seen governments going into serious talks about clamping down on Mixer services. Their excuse is that these Mixer
services are being used to fund terrorism and for money laundering. {the usual Bull shit excuses} The real reason is their inability to
control the financial flow of money. In many instances these Mixer services are our last option to keep our finances private.
Unfortunately, our financial privacy is linked with "bad actors" using these services and we {legal users} of these services, will have to
sacrifice our financial privacy, if this last bastions falls.
We need decentralized mixer services to protect our financial data and transactions. { Why do they need to know how much money
you have, and what you spend it on? } Anyone??
How would an idea like this work (a decentralised mixer)? Is it not easier to send a transaction through multiple mixers instead. I think you could probably add a recieving address of one to the sending address of another and then finannly output the actual transaction afterwards. Do you mean having multiple people/client computers running the service in many different locations - doesn't it always require a central place for the website's interface (unless you use the PM system of a forum or an email)? Yes, centralized services can be taken down, but decentralized services will resist interference from government intervention. Bitcoin is decentralized, and the essential services linked to it, should also be decentralized. We should have decentralized tumblers and also exchanges to support it.  ..... We have seen moderate resistance from the governments so far, but as soon as they have replaced Fiat with their own Blockchain based currencies, it would will become a whole other story... They WILL become more aggressive.  There's little they'll be able to do anyway (until data anaysis from uantum computers maybe)... Any sort of thing with bitcoin would be questionableas evidence and it's already fairly unknown who sends the coins anyway. What you could do is have a thread here and say a cmmunity of people will send/recieve the funds instead. So someone says either on the chat or by PM "can someone send 0.1 BTC to [reciever address], There's 0.101 BTC in escrow for the task". That'd be quite unique here and if there was only one address that everyone sent the coins to per user then it would work. |
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I was looking in the google play store and found these two apps, both claiming to be for hashnest: ONE and TWOAs hashnest's actual website links to a different app not avaliable on the appstore, are these two apps both faked. And if they are, how come hashnest haven't said much about them as a warning on their site? |
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The original Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.
I am starting to beleive there are outside forces that are out to make bitcoin fail and are now brainwashing the masses. Telling them bitcoin as a currency has failed. Of course, we here know that ain't true The bitcoin magic is losing its Midas touch http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/12e155dc-e5e4-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39.html#axzz42RMnrFyQ and the imitator.  Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.
I reported Kahir for copy paste previously here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0Seems to be a serial copy-paster, who has gotten away for months. Maybe because it is a legendary account? We just have to wait for the moderators to take note. Meanwhile, has anyone created a bot to detect this problem? A simple tool to see if your posts have been plagairised would be quite handy. but wouldn't overload the forum ever more, considering that are already topics about people complaining about forum being slow and stuff The forum's quite quick. The browsers of the people using it is slow? There is a limit of one connection per second (I think) meaning that you cannot send more than one request to the server from the same IP more than 1 second (making it harder for archiving services as well). Maybe there's a mirrored version of this site tat could be tested instead? It's a shame the entire index.php data isn't uploaded to somewhere like github with the part of the sql data that contains the information such as user who posted it, rank, activity, post count, signature, avatar and actual text of what they put. I thought the forum was intended to be fairly slow anyway due to the magnitude of information that needs pulling and loading. |
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We have recently seen governments going into serious talks about clamping down on Mixer services. Their excuse is that these Mixer
services are being used to fund terrorism and for money laundering. {the usual Bull shit excuses} The real reason is their inability to
control the financial flow of money. In many instances these Mixer services are our last option to keep our finances private.
Unfortunately, our financial privacy is linked with "bad actors" using these services and we {legal users} of these services, will have to
sacrifice our financial privacy, if this last bastions falls.
We need decentralized mixer services to protect our financial data and transactions. { Why do they need to know how much money
you have, and what you spend it on? } Anyone??
How would an idea like this work (a decentralised mixer)? Is it not easier to send a transaction through multiple mixers instead. I think you could probably add a recieving address of one to the sending address of another and then finannly output the actual transaction afterwards. Do you mean having multiple people/client computers running the service in many different locations - doesn't it always require a central place for the website's interface (unless you use the PM system of a forum or an email)? |
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oh guys, after i created this thread, it showed me 1 confirmation, looks like miracle to me  Next time i will use recommended fees by electrum, too sad the fees are high nowadays. You can remove this thread. Thanks and sorry I don't think the mods will remove your thread for you. Here's how it's done: 1. On the OP (original post) you should see a button that says "delete" (hit that) and click OK! method 2. If the first method doesn't work, scoll to the bottom left corner and click, "move topic" - move it to archive board. |
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The original Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.
I am starting to beleive there are outside forces that are out to make bitcoin fail and are now brainwashing the masses. Telling them bitcoin as a currency has failed. Of course, we here know that ain't true The bitcoin magic is losing its Midas touch http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/12e155dc-e5e4-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39.html#axzz42RMnrFyQ and the imitator. Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.
I reported Kahir for copy paste previously here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0Seems to be a serial copy-paster, who has gotten away for months. Maybe because it is a legendary account? We just have to wait for the moderators to take note. Meanwhile, has anyone created a bot to detect this problem? A simple tool to see if your posts have been plagairised would be quite handy. |
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@crazyb, the link you messaged is linked to my post and not yours (just an fyi - not sure if that was the inteintion or not). It is strange that: 1. Tonto said the bets were 3 months ago and is only suggestin gthem now. 2. No bets won today? Unless there was a short amount of bets then it'd be unlinkely no one wins isn't it? I post a photos on the past, for consideration why these happens. (Following you have asking me to deleting of photos), This will be a giant jigsaw, if this is just a problem on your system, why do you ask me to delete the photo? And i see you've totally able to edit board live, then you have not paying my last bets round. Sorry, you want catch that my site is scam but your all bets is lose.. And want refund it.. Sorry i bad case for you. You can win more again! Place bets and win. Good luck Jesus, I'm tired of explaining to this person HOW IF SOME ONE HAVE SPEND MONEY FROM UNCONFIRM TRANSACTION ! I'm didn't want catch to you scam, There's no sense for me. But what you say, I was caught you http://archive.is/xWjxq#selection-515.0-565.64 It would be remotely reasonable to request someone to remove the images if they think it will stop other people from betting. Though people can check the site now and see if it is paying or not (and use your own conscience as well, if you have to euestion the legitimacy of the site, tread with caution).
Also, the post crazyb linked to was actually a post with the screenshots in it: [FOR REFERENCE] Sorry, you don't read rules..
Don't accept coinbase and xapo wallet..
Why i need pay if you send from coinbase?
We not accept this wallet and script work wrong..
You can get winnings and refund bet.
Thanks for your post!
What you want make this it?
Use normal wallet and get winnings.
I'm have be careful read rules! I was told to you, Is my bad. Your said it means for Coinbase / xapo / market (changer site) If win games win, system will be auto pay to address has spend bets. Right? So what's happens with last round? You didn't paying, I'M SURE 100% Your system didn't where's money spended. So how about this one?  Maybe don't fund the scam once you know it is a scam... At least we can finally be sure that it is definitely now a scam and can move on. (Luckily you probably haven't lost too mcuh to this)? Also, if that was the image they wanted you to remove, they have no reason to want that if it's a legitimate system (quoted post for reference).
Though it's weird he's still paying... [for reference this is it] Sorry, you don't read rules..
Don't accept coinbase and xapo wallet..
Why i need pay if you send from coinbase?
We not accept this wallet and script work wrong..
You can get winnings and refund bet.
Thanks for your post!
What you want make this it?
Use normal wallet and get winnings.
I'm have be careful read rules! I was told to you, Is my bad. Your said it means for Coinbase / xapo / market (changer site) If win games win, system will be auto pay to address has spend bets. Right? So what's happens with last round? You didn't paying, I'M SURE 100% Your system didn't where's money spended. So how about this one? Maybe don't fund the scam once you know it is a scam... At least we can finally be sure that it is definitely now a scam and can move on. (Luckily you probably haven't lost too mcuh to this)? Also, if that was the image they wanted you to remove, they have no reason to want that if it's a legitimate system (quoted post for reference).
Though it's weird he's still paying... [/for reference] |
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I've only reported one post. That was from a member who was abusive and said I should leave the forum because I support core, and because I block unlimited and XT nodes. I didn't receive a reply, so I don't know if that was considered a valid reason for reporting a post. Imho. it's attitudes like that that reduce the popularity of this forum, and allow the hard-skinned spammers to dominate, and that is why I reported the post.
Click report on any random post again and if the accuracy is at 0, that means your report was not considered valid and if its at 100 it was handled. Although I have to say one instance of such post is not likely to be removed Thanks for posting that. I got this You have reported 1 posts with 100% accuracy I hope I haven't got you into trouble, as I clicked on your post. It would have been nice if there had been a "thank you" button there, so that one can make positive comments as well as negative ones. There is a positive button, posting here and replying... That's good! That means they thought their post was worthy of deleting and that you had made a contribution to this forum yourself. (also, the mods only see reported posts when you hit the button next to the text field). |
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Just search for "bitcoin wallet" in your APP store. It's totally intuitive, most 2nd graders can figure it out.. that is, the basics of how to use a wallet on a hand device. OK it's just a start of course of learning but this is imho more likely to be a pathway for noobs than something on a laptop with a video.
The market of people using Bitcoin needs extending in some way... So you search "bitcoin wallet" in your app store, then, when you download it you don't know how it works. How do I know how to send transactions with 34 character addresses? How do I recieve Bitcoins? Then they'll probably uninstall it if they can't find the information straight away. Could be *shrug* In tests I have found that 6 and 7 year olds can use it quite quickly without much instruction other than "send 0.001 to her". Also note that systems such as e.g. wechatpay, which from a UI perspective works almost exactly the same, come without instruction and are adopted easily by billions. Food for thought. If that's true and bitcoin's value increased by 125% in 2016 then why are people still not using it? It's great to get 6 year olds that use computers to do it. I bet if you gave them a video game to play they would be more inclined to use it than an 50 year old adult would? How do we get them to use it then? It's fine getting a 6 or 7 year old to use it but if you do it will take them a while to familiarise themselves with it. |
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Hello I'm having a big problem I created A bit coin wallet when I logged in I copied the wallet ID and transferred funds to the account and then when I refresh the page it logged me out and it would not let me log back in I found out that you must be using a verified email but yet the email was never sent so now I created a Wallet that I do not have access to that I sent money to and I do not know what to do
Like @eth said, this post is not specific as to where you sent the funds to? If you used your name and other validating information when you signed up you can probably get them to trace that back to you by sending photographic ID. Anyway, contact their support and see twhat they say. It's probably better to start you off on something like an electrum wallet then it is more secure and less information is required (as it is a piece of software that runs on your computer see here. |
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@crazyb, the link you messaged is linked to my post and not yours (just an fyi - not sure if that was the inteintion or not). It is strange that: 1. Tonto said the bets were 3 months ago and is only suggestin gthem now. 2. No bets won today? Unless there was a short amount of bets then it'd be unlinkely no one wins isn't it? |
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Thanks DannyHamilton that was comforting. Albeit I had moved my bitcoins to another wallet in panic, the transaction had later been confirmed (of course without sweeping my account!). I just learn as I go on. I use a blockchain wallet by the way and I'm new as the word itself! Now I'm just hoping I really get paid by the site as promised....ever used them? 2xcoins.org
Those BTC "doublers" are called HYIPs and they will scam you sooner or later. Bitcoin is money and it's not that easy to double your money. I suggest you stop using them. Thanks...you know I didn't even get lucky the first draw...the site made a 12hrs promise but it's days now and no show! Wish I could blacklist them though on the Internet. .....2xcoins.org This transaction has now been confirmed: https://blockchain.info/tx/9c3932b34238e9590d3025d47aaf082f904fb5acb9513f0674beeaab7f5e60ff
Hi steve0021, thanks for earlier. Would you throw some more light on this pls...I went on some site 2xcoins.org to get 0.1btc doubled but after I paid into the address given another address shows up under same transaction Id and when I click on this other address, it reads the balance on my blockchain just as if I had ordered that the balance btc also be sent under the same transaction?
Yes. This is how bitcoin works. That is expected behavior. What wallet program are you using? (Electrum, Multibit, Bitcoin Core, Armory, Mycellium, something else)? Suspect!
No. So even if I expedite this transaction, I suspect that an attempt may be made to sweep my account clean.
And how would that happen? If nobody else has your private keys, then they can't "sweep" your bitcoins from you. If they do have your private keys, then they probably already would have. Thanks DannyHamilton that was comforting. Albeit I had moved my bitcoins to another wallet in panic, the transaction had later been confirmed (of course without sweeping my account!). I just learn as I go on. I use a blockchain wallet by the way and I'm new as the word itself! Now I'm just hoping I really get paid by the site as promised....ever used them? 2xcoins.org The other transaction htat appears under the same TX ID is probably a transaction internanally in your wallet. If you check the data on your wallet, does it state (unspent) in brackets after it. Usually to allow for bitcoin's annymity you get. →The address you send to Sending Address →An address internal to your wallet (presumably the one ~0.79 BTC sent was internal and remained inside your account -but a blockchain.info glitch seems to suggest otherwise). |
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Damn, OP should change the thread name as; How much of a snitch are you?
S.O. to people who report the scams tho.
And how do you know if something is a scam or not? You can suspect it' but neither you, nor the moderator should prosecute people without a valid proof. My report is at 100%, but I'm only reporting obvious and most annoying violations. Actually moderators are more proactively reomving scams (such as onzischemes) whenever they arise now and have more power to act. It is true that it's difficult to know, better to use your own judgement to decide whether you think it is scam or not. S.O. to people who report the scams tho.
S.O.? Significant other? Scams are not handled by staff so reporting them would do nothing. Shout out, I'd guess. I've now reported more posts than I've made.
I can beat that, more than twice Still stuck at 99% though, kudos for the 100. It would be nice if this information could be made public, as part of your profile information.
It seems there were recently some changes made on profiles (I'm talking about the added link to topics started). Might be a nice little addition to the general stats page, maybe below the total time logged in.
Haven't reached shorenas latest number yet (10382 currently over here), so they're still in the lead. Moderators are deleting obvious scams. I think shorena's is probably higher than that by now. |
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Just search for "bitcoin wallet" in your APP store. It's totally intuitive, most 2nd graders can figure it out.. that is, the basics of how to use a wallet on a hand device. OK it's just a start of course of learning but this is imho more likely to be a pathway for noobs than something on a laptop with a video.
The market of people using Bitcoin needs extending in some way... So you search "bitcoin wallet" in your app store, then, when you download it you don't know how it works. How do I know how to send transactions with 34 character addresses? How do I recieve Bitcoins? Then they'll probably uninstall it if they can't find the information straight away. |
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Small amounts of bitcoin trading are usually quite good to start with fr education purposes. Well , let's say you made about 0.02-0.03 BTC , can you start trading ? is there any limits for trading like minimum and maximum amount ?
where you guys think is a good place to start a trade ? share your trading experiments and recommendation.
I also would like to know at which amount you guys started trading [ personal experiment ].
Edit :
Sorry, i think i posted it in wrong section, if possible mod can you move it to the right section?
Thanks
In trading you can start anytime you want, or even now. Because as long as you meet their minimum amount in any exchange platform you can trade at once. And you can start trade at c-cex, novaexchange, alcurex, bittrex, polonie or yobit. I think with Yobit you can start with ~0.5mbtc on a coin in an investment, allowing you to invest in 40 different altcoins at once in order to test them. Don't expect too much profit from your investment if it is small though @OP. Well , let's say you made about 0.02-0.03 BTC , can you start trading ? is there any limits for trading like minimum and maximum amount ?
where you guys think is a good place to start a trade ? share your trading experiments and recommendation.
I also would like to know at which amount you guys started trading [ personal experiment ].
Edit :
Sorry, i think i posted it in wrong section, if possible mod can you move it to the right section?
Thanks
By starting in trading, as far as I know you must be decided, determine, aggressive, and can control your emotions. Then if you this things you can start trading in buying altcoins in the exchange sites its up to were you gonna buy the coins. And 0.01 or 0.02 BTC is enough for a trader. To suggest the amount they have, they probably already own the coins. Cannot be told, I think that trading is good on a low price but right now the bitcoin is very high, with altcoins you can to be honest start already now with some nice investing amount.
As I see it, Bitcoin/Fiat trading is a safer option than Bitcoin/Altcoins trading. But, incredible as it seems, the altcoins are showing a good performance in the market, even with Bitcoin rising in price. I think that as long as you have experience you can make a good profit on the altcoins market, but this is a very unpredictable market. It is right that bitcoin fiat trading is safe but if someone have knowledge about altcoin and start trade with bitcoin/altcoin then he will earn a higher income from that trade and it is also the chance that he get biggest profit within a day. Yes bitcoin/altcoin will make more profit than bitcoin/fiat when we buy and sell in right moment, for this moment i'll try to collect some altcoin with low price than usual, and wait bitcoin stable or down then im sure my altcoin wil going higher and give me more profits. but need to research about future that coin safe or not to hold for long time before start buying. Trading altcoin for bitcoin might be the right thing to do at the moment since the price of the altcoin is stabilizing and the price of the bitcoin is going higher and it becoming harder to mine, but the altcoin is unpredictable you can’t rely on them. So, the best thing is to exchange bitcoin to fiat when the price is high and then when the price of the bitcoin goes down you could buy twice as much as you had. As bitcoin's value increases to fiat, the altcoin value also increases by a similar amount each time (quite often). It is therefore, much more stable to invest in fiat but i you invest in multiple altcoins (at least 10) then you may get a good profit from one or two of them. |
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Sorry, you don't read rules..
Don't accept coinbase and xapo wallet..
Why i need pay if you send from coinbase?
We not accept this wallet and script work wrong..
You can get winnings and refund bet.
Thanks for your post!
What you want make this it?
Use normal wallet and get winnings.
I'm have be careful read rules! I was told to you, Is my bad. Your said it means for Coinbase / xapo / market (changer site) If win games win, system will be auto pay to address has spend bets. Right? So what's happens with last round? You didn't paying, I'M SURE 100% Your system didn't where's money spended. So how about this one? Maybe don't fund the scam once you know it is a scam... At least we can finally be sure that it is definitely now a scam and can move on. (Luckily you probably haven't lost too mcuh to this)? Also, if that was the image they wanted you to remove, they have no reason to want that if it's a legitimate system (quoted post for reference).
Though it's weird he's still paying... |
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Hi,
I want to join your signature campaign. My information is as follows. Is there anything else I should do?
User: coin revolution
Postion to Apply: Jr. Member
Posts Start: 33
Address: 17hG5wdf4fhQmLq4ZGRQzoizQciYGncXzC
Add the signature to your account. By going here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;sa=forumProfileUser: zeze18
Postion to Apply:jr member
Posts Start: 37
Address: 1G5CdkKe6AXxcaQz4ZSoqWH557pAVd7MwM
You also need to do the same -fyi |
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That might work well to make it more user riendly. Has that idea been coded yet (possibly not to difficult to do as everything is open source)?
I don't think it has been coded. That's a shame it hasn't been coded. It'd be fairly simple to take an already coded project such as a python wallet and change that to have this interface. Or even just use an API to a hosted wallet site in order to get this information. I'd also suggest that instead of having addresses, the user instead has "labels" that they can select. So if you want to send something to someone you coud use something memorable like a 4 digit number relavent to them, their name or even a phone number that is linked to that address so it can be sent easily. Not sure the 3D effect would be especially useful, but a 2D effect would work? Or maybe a 3D effect with each pixel representing a satoshi (by default but changeable).
The main idea for 3D versus 2D is that with a 2D effect, 64m BTC takes up 64 times as much screen space as 1m BTC, but with a 3D effect it only takes up 16 times the space. [/quote] That is quite a good point that the 64m BTC would be 8 times the size of the 1m BTC one so it is proportional. You could also then probably have a way of changing from ^3 (3D) to ^2 (2D) and ^4... (although ^4 may be hard to visualise unless the graphics can rotate). |
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Try the official version from the official site maybe. Or try redownloading fromgithub to ensure there was no data loss of data while it was transmitted on the pull request.
Is that github repo not 'official'? Indeed, I have. I built core on this machine almost two years ago. Since it was an old version, I did 'git pull' and tried to rebuild, and things failed. I have updated the system and double checked the dependencies. Of course last time I built it I was on a previous debian. And I was building against qt4 instead of qt5, so, yah, things have changed in the mean time. In any case, we know which part of the build process is having trouble, I guess I just need to drill down into that Makefile and figure out exactly which line went wrong and try to find a log from ld or something. I was hoping that in posting here I'd either run across someone who happened to have encountered the same error or else run across someone who's a real whiz with the C build process. Anyway, let me know if you see anything specific I should be checking. You are correct that the GitHub version is the official version. However it is hosted by an external company and the "official" version has the pre-built programs for you to run. I'm suprised that someone like achow or shorena didn't come here anyway. My advice is in the hope that it can be fixed just from generic problems that may occur that some may not check for. (if you download from the pre-built version then you avoid having to use the makefile commands don't you?) |
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One thing that could be made better is support for non-standard transactions. Really, try to create a 2/3 multisignature address and you will see what I mean, not user-friendly at all. I think a wallet should have a highly visual interface, it can use the slabs in boxes analogy in this post. So a visual box can represent each address, with visual slabs of different sizes within to represent unspent outputs (can have a 3D appearance so 1 BTC can be only ten times larger in every dimension than 1m BTC). Each slab can have info on it, like the amount, confirmations, and time or receipt as well as a label written by the user. The address boxes (with the address string somewhere of course) can have a symbolic keyhole in one corner, colour coded green if the wallet ully controls it, yellow if the public key is known, and red if it is not controlled by the wallet (watch only). Before a transaction is signed, it is shown to the user with the input slabs on the left, output slabs on the right, arrows to represent direction, and a slab directly below centre to represent the fee. That might work well to make it more user riendly. Has that idea been coded yet (possibly not to difficult to do as everything is open source)? Maybe also add more and better features such as an estimate for how long the transaction will take to get 1 confirmation and how long it'll take to get 3/5 or 10 confirmations (where it is accepted by a website it is used on)... Not sure the 3D effect would be especially useful, but a 2D effect would work? Or maybe a 3D effect with each pixel representing a satoshi (by default but changeable). |
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