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1021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 21, 2014, 06:55:29 PM
hey guys I decided to download the wallet to support the network through staking and to avoid keeping all my coins on trex, but as soon as I launch the qt it immediatley stops responding and crashes...did anyone else have this problem? If it was already asked and answered I'm sorry for the repost and would be glad if someone could link me the solution Smiley btw I run win 7 64 bit.

i did have that problem once, not sure why it happened but it would occasionally crash.  I redownloaded it and havent had a problem since.
1022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 21, 2014, 05:45:03 PM
international business users, unique business usage plans and consultations to get them up, i see being useful too.

Viorcoin will take off once people see the potential behind it

I agree.

there will be a few days of fluctuations as people from ryans pumpers pick sell what they bought in order to buy into their next pump pick "crypto leaches"
but once people start joing vior and the phone subscr

iption is out  every seller will be feeling like they missed out on the biggest crypto move of the year.

pumpers might as well go away, because the price of vior is pegged to the price of phone minutes, if the price goes over 9k without 400 wallets smart money will sell, when it drops below 3500 people will buy.  
only problem right now is all the smart money that is watching is already waist deep, waiting for more community growth.
its easy to see whenever a new person joins.  normally a few times a day you see a spike as someone takes a position in vior normally buying 20k or more in one major buy, then the bots come in and use the gap to trade on the backlash bringing the price back down.

this will all change when we see 10 or more people/day download the vior wallet to use it, the bots will have no where to play once the demand for viorcoin surpasses the stake.

anyways if you do start to see these spikes happening on an hourly basis, with a daily increase of wallets holding coin of more than 4% growth, buy this coin with everything you can afford, because it is going to snowball like nobodies business.

on the other hand if we get to the point where copycats are pumping out new viorstyle coins on a weekly basis/ stagnation and frustration....  lucky for us copycating the business model of a telco gateway requires risk on the part of the dev, because it actually costs money to set up the subscription plan.


on a side note (HOW TO BEAT OUT THE BOTS)
this is mostly to those who have a long position in viorcoin but would like to aquire more.

dont buy all at once.
add in buy orders from the last major bid.  split your buys between say 20 bids increasing them at 1% until you get to the next large sell wall put 20% of your total bid here.  this way the next time someone enters the market and the bot sells a bunch they will fill your order.  
normally you will fill that 20% within a few hours as the bot tries to create a large enough spread to buy back in at a profit.  if there are a few people doing this you can quickly force the bot out of the market as it begins to make smaller and smaller profit, and misses out on the next jump.
1023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 21, 2014, 03:45:45 AM
wow no buying or selling for 7 hours...... strange.

tomorrow im gonna drop a few more bitcoins into this project, dont really want to bump myself to far up the richlist, but id be foolish not to.

ill sell them back once we go past 25k Tongue
1024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 21, 2014, 02:11:17 AM






soooooo  is coinville gonna be released with the subscription service?
1025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 20, 2014, 08:44:46 PM
is there anyway for you to set up a payment system for the gateway where we could could pay for the service with fiat as well.
I think that if you set it up so people could pay with fiat, bitcoins, or viorcoins this could become a real contender in the telcom world.

not only would this remove any doubt about your goals because of the legality of fiat,
but by reinvesting in vior you should be able to take us to a million dollar marketcap in a stable way, very quickly  Grin


and to top it all off, it looks like bitcoin has finally burned of its bearish sentiment.  get ready for the next period of crypto growth.

Another thing that would be very useful would be to sell tokens for monthly subscriptions that could be traded back for vior on a built in exchange
1026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Have you actually ever used a altcoin? on: December 20, 2014, 07:09:00 PM
i have used blackcoin back in its hayday
other than that the only coins i have ever used was for a free service
 first korecoin for voip then viorcoin for video over ip
if dev releases the subscription for viorphone number this weekend ill use it to buy an ecrypted phone number.

for everything else i just use bitcoin

oh yeah i used dogecoin a bunch when it had its original marketplace, selling games and such.
1027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2015 and WHY on: December 20, 2014, 07:04:09 PM
only sure thing i see right now is viorcoin.

1028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 20, 2014, 05:55:26 PM
hope so once it goes android it will be easy to install on affordable tablets and given to friends.
1029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: which coins would you consider useful to the bitcoin world APPCOINS vs ALTCOINS on: December 20, 2014, 03:28:03 PM
hows about a small group, with enough ambition, who strongly believe that financial systems, including retirement funds, medical aid, funeral insurance, and all that crap can be decentralized? Smiley
hows about market places, purchasing and delivery being decentralized and trustless?
even the devs will be anonymous, and it between 1 and 5 levels of management can become obsolete?

The past year has proven that the bitcoin and altcoin space is a tiny community that can't rely on itself...
If big things are going to happen next year, but it will only come out of consolidation

nice food for thought.

I do believe that we should all resolve to use bitcoin as the center of all these services, it has a level of legitimacy without which there will be very little growth.
1030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 20, 2014, 03:16:38 PM
is there anyway for you to set up a payment system for the gateway where we could could pay for the service with fiat as well.
I think that if you set it up so people could pay with fiat, bitcoins, or viorcoins this could become a real contender in the telcom world.

not only would this remove any doubt about your goals because of the legality of fiat,
but by reinvesting in vior you should be able to take us to a million dollar marketcap in a stable way, very quickly  Grin


and to top it all off, it looks like bitcoin has finally burned of its bearish sentiment.  get ready for the next period of crypto growth.
1031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 20, 2014, 07:22:49 AM
i think the 10k was a good start, viorcoin didnt put any restrictions on how fast he would raise the price, but having it 200% of the selling value while being 50% of the hopeful value is a good starting point.
it also allows for cheaper promotional giveaways, and will draw in real users while hopefully scaring away large pump and dumpers hoping for instantaneous 1000% gains and 1000% losses,

cheers Dev

BC
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 20, 2014, 01:07:24 AM
so if the value is pegged to 10000 sat and the price of worldwide subscription is similar to skype then everyone who has over 27 thousand coins will be able to get free phone for life with there stake.  Much cheaper if you keep your calling within your continent or country say 10-15 thousand coins

So cool!!
1033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: ALT coin Stores and Services List on: December 19, 2014, 02:41:16 PM
not sure if this counts,
 but VIORCOIN gateway is a free voip/video chat while allowing you to pay for an encrypted vpn telephone number to call and recieve calls anywhere in the world.
1034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 19, 2014, 01:16:07 AM
If you have windows XP or older version, you can download this wallet.



See the announcement page

and back over 4k... any guesses or bets on whether well break 5k tonight?


bitcoin carpenter  called 5k few hours ago


nah i called 5k as being the new floor within 7 days.. never to be seen again as we move to new levels =P

I am still working on the final draft for calling rates VIOR/Minutes. I am using 10,000 sats as a starting base and the payment system will be matching the order to prevent price manipulation by buyers.

fair price.
although if all goes well, you may have to change the price quickly as the supply begins to run down.
but with the amount of users at the moment I believe your price point of 10k/vior may be high enough to draw in subscribers from holders, while keeping it low enough to get more people in

nice work!!

one of the most interesting things im wonderring about is the legality of viorcoin, as a coin it is considerred a commodity in canada, so profits made from increased value are taxable, and in order for you to set up a gateway for dollars to viorcoin you would need to follow laws in that manner, but a token for minutes, it may be tht viorcoin can be bought without any worries, as minutes fall under something completely different.  if this is the case i can easilly buy into viorcoin through a merchant and then sell for bitcoins without any of the usual holdups...


thoughts?
1035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 19, 2014, 01:11:10 AM
If you have windows XP or older version, you can download this wallet.



See the announcement page

and back over 4k... any guesses or bets on whether well break 5k tonight?


bitcoin carpenter  called 5k few hours ago


nah i called 5k as being the new floor within 7 days.. never to be seen again as we move to new levels =P

I am still working on the final draft for calling rates VIOR/Minutes. I am using 10,000 sats as a starting base and the payment system will be matching the order to prevent price manipulation by buyers.

fair price.
although if all goes well, you may have to change the price quickly as the supply begins to run down.
but with the amount of users at the moment I believe your price point of 10k/vior may be high enough to draw in subscribers from holders, while keeping it low enough to get more people in

nice work!!
1036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 18, 2014, 07:54:59 PM
Coming up;
New wallet with new additional features (call history, missed calls)
Payment system integration for telco gateway.
Pricing structure for viorcalls

damn im so ready for this!

If we do this right,  we can meet at moon

Viorcoin is very important to Viorcalls ecosystem because it's the maintain payment currency. My priority is to main the value and stabilize it at above average of the Viorcoin calling rates.

I was in supernet slack yesterday and had interesting conversation with some users in the chat room. A lot of coins are targeted to the existing community, Viorcoin is not for the bitcoin community alone , pump and dump scheme. We need to reach out to the users that are not into Crypto and I think voice and video calling combined with the phone gateway is the easiest way to make this happen.



Well said
1037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2015 and WHY on: December 18, 2014, 04:46:23 AM
the altcoin that isnt an investment but has features that draw users to it through its utility will be the next big thing, or at least it will be useful to all of us, and therefore help to increase the total wealth of the crypto world.

no more bitcoin 2.0, 3.0, to the moon without having a use to back it up please..
1038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What makes a good coin? on: December 18, 2014, 04:43:02 AM
I am done with any altcoin that isnt offering something different.
coins should be considered companies inside of the bitcoin space.  if it doesnt have a useable feature, such as a phone, and ability to anonymously mix coins, a way to enter into the crypto world without using bitcoin, or something of the like it is useless.

ill leave all the other coins to the pump and dumpers to make money off all the gamblers hoping to make it big of the next bitcoin.
1039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 18, 2014, 03:06:51 AM
If you have windows XP or older version, you can download this wallet.



See the announcement page

and back over 4k... any guesses or bets on whether well break 5k tonight?


bitcoin carpenter  called 5k few hours ago


nah i called 5k as being the new floor within 7 days.. never to be seen again as we move to new levels =P
1040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Gateway subscription [Mandatory Update] on: December 18, 2014, 03:02:51 AM
If you have windows XP or older version, you can download this wallet.



See the announcement page

and back over 4k... any guesses or bets on whether well break 5k tonight?
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