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1021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 14, 2014, 05:00:47 PM
Java and JavaScript are two different languages. Nxt is Java, not sure about Qora.

nxt = java
nodecoin = javascript
quora = java (I'm surprised there are no tests there, either they have tests and didn't publish them, or...)

NEM = java


do you see the tendency?


javascript is more easy?

Hello
From my personal experience I think it is easier,
but is also depends of the context where is used
I mean what you have to do with it.



I personally hate javascript and wouldn't be here on NEM if it was in JS  Kiss

I really don't get your views and many of you still didn't get it. A coin is only a protocol. A software is only one representation of it. Anyone can write the SAME software in ANY language. No matter, if its is javascript, python or even brainf*ck. And any software can have it's bugs independent of its language.
You can do nice testdriven programming with java, but you can also do it testdriven with javascript and node.js or c# or whatever and connect to the current client. And its NOT more easy in javascript. At least not, if you want to make equally good. You could even say its harder with javascript to write clean code. In Java you have strict lines to follow, so it's harder to make a mess (of course it's still easy enough).
It's just a different way to do it. Please stop talking about things, you don't know a sh*t.

BTW: NXT and NEM Backendpart is Java an still it would't work without javascript. The frontend part is also a lot of work and not trivial and these days it can (or at least should) ONLY be written in javascript, if you want to run it in a browser.

In what way is what you are saying contradictory to what the previous posters have said in the things you've quoted?
Yes you can write most things in all languages but that doesn't mean people can't have preferences.
If you're reffering to what makoto said about him not being here if NEM had been written in JS then you still have no point. If makoto wouldn't contribute to a project that is written in JS because he doesn't like the language (who can blame him?) or isn't familiar enough with it that's a very valid point.
1022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 14, 2014, 02:15:22 PM
I went to the Bitcoin conference in Seoul to represent NEM.  There were a lot of good people there that I was able to talk to.  Some are operating exchanges, some are organizing events, and some are developers.  It felt good to get out there and help spread the word of NEM.  I'll look forward to doing it again next time!

My personal highlight was sitting down at lunch with VItalik and talking to him.  He is very smart indeed. 

I think the most important thing I did for NEM was help keep us on the radar and plant the seed to let people know we are coming. 

After we launch, and we go to another conference we should get our own little booth and try to get up and the guest panels to speak. 

Lets make this happen!

Niiice ! Thanks for doing that !
So, did you get vitalik to forget that little project of his and join the NEMwagon ?  Grin
1023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 13, 2014, 06:15:59 PM
@devs

what happened recently with blockchain.info and accounts being hacked looks to me like it was an issue with bitcoin rather than blockchain.info? im not sure to be honest, i could be wrong, but it seems that way from the thread johoe posted on btt(link below) and it does have me concerned.

http://www.coindesk.com/good-samaritan-blockchain-hacker-returned-255-btc-speaks/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.0

if this is a fault on bitcoins side, is it something that all cryptos are affected by, just PoW, or just bitcoin? is this something that could affect nem?

It's definitely a blockchain.info mistake.  It's like Malleability, which is a bitcoin flaw only if a service provider doesn't take basic precautions, which makes it the service providers flaw.

I guess there are a lot of pitfalls when building services around bitcoin that devs have to be aware of.
1024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 13, 2014, 11:14:39 AM
if I reinstall NEM client it won;t change my address I registered my stake with right? as long as I use the same name/password

The address you used to registers your stake (if you did it right) it only created once by the generator. Even without reinstalling the client you'd create a different one when you run the generator.
As long as you have the priv-key you generated you can do whatever you want on the test net. It has nothing todo with the live net.
Many people didnt understand that the creation of real account data was just a simple address generator. I think thats because the way it was implemented in NCC led to some misunderstanding. If would have been more clear if there was just an "Address Generator for Real Accounts". But yeah... too late now Cheesy

Well even if you don't understand it we did tell everyone abundantly clear that the data need to be saved in a secure place. Plus there is a check when you create it that asks you to paste the data again so this is really fool proof imho.
1025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 13, 2014, 08:40:36 AM
if I reinstall NEM client it won;t change my address I registered my stake with right? as long as I use the same name/password

The address you used to registers your stake (if you did it right) it only created once by the generator. Even without reinstalling the client you'd create a different one when you run the generator.
As long as you have the priv-key you generated you can do whatever you want on the test net. It has nothing todo with the live net.
1026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 12, 2014, 06:33:56 PM
Bitcoin genesis block was mined on Jan. 3 2009. Maybe launch on the anniversary?

That's a neat idea Smiley
1027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 12, 2014, 10:39:27 AM
ok i setup a second wallet in my account and when i switch from main wallet to second i get an error 500. nis/ncc restart without any changes. i can see the wallet and the adress but when i click on it, several seconds pass and then booooom error 500 Wink nis is fully synchronised, no problems with that Smiley

e//
seems like nis is stuck now at 76 434, but i'll wait maybe this baby will recover on its own Cheesy

I think that's a known bug but if you have time you might wanna check the github issues and if necessary log a new one Smiley
1028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 12, 2014, 09:49:04 AM

Still to be announced but you can whack my ass with a hockey stick if its not 8999999999/4000
One stake- 2250000


wat 9 billions coins now ? i have claimed my token long ago for Nxt AE when it was supposed to be 4 billions coins.

So i just had 1 000 000 coins instead of 2 250 000 ?

It's too late to get the real coins, am i f*cked ?

You're not fucked. At least not in that regard Wink
If we raise the total supply each stacke will be raised accordingly.
If you've claimed your token i.e. followed the redemption process and your NXT address shows up on https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered you'll get as many NEMs as any other stakeholder.
1029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 12, 2014, 07:19:22 AM
i dont know if you recognized the desaster around bitbay, bter, bobsurplus and zimbeck. everything points to that the p'n'd group around surplus (https://twitter.com/EMC2Whale) and bter scammed bitbay icon investors in amount of ~690+ BTC. now if this gettin proofed and bter is involved i dont think it'll be a good decision to get nem on there for trading. as i said its not proofed at the moment but all signs point to that case.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850267.0
http://t.co/Je8kHDSZ0o
http://t.co/DsmiGR0vN8

In theory yes but it's not like we could stop anyone from listing us Smiley
1030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 12, 2014, 06:48:55 AM
"ERROR 305 NEM Infrastructure Server is not available." also at top of client/browser it says "NIS is not available" Is this a problem on my end or a network issue?

If this comes right after startup just wait a bit. It simply means NIS is still starting up. If it's persistent then NIS is probably not started (check the tray icon for NIS' status).
1031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 11, 2014, 09:24:01 AM
Does harvesting fully work in Beta? I never seem to achieve anything. Maybe just not long enough?

Yes it does work. With which account are you harvesting ?
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 09, 2014, 07:28:36 PM
last 24 hours no trade with NEMstake

people, wake up and trade !

Should i sell all my NODE coins ~ 590 000 to buy NEM or hold them?

I'll hold until they finally release details of their network.
1033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 09, 2014, 06:43:50 PM
You guys are making one fatal error. Because you have used the whole we won't relaese till the product is perfect smokescreen to deflect from the truth that you simply haven't finished your shit coin and have a project that has sprawled over 3 fucking years is this. When you do release and the inevitable bug arises this coin will be not only the biggest joke coin in crypto history but you will alway witness the steepest drop in price ever.

I might of respected you guys if you simply said you couldn't finish the coin I time. All this sock puppet registering drawn out to help more register is what I suspected, a simple case of stalling and incompetence.

I'm done with alts, I found I was losing and winning and in the end had the same as i started with. I'm buying Bitcoin and cutting this crap out of my life.

why you're still here?

rabitter is quitting alts? I think I'm talking for the majority of alts (prob every single one except quora) when I say...THANK GOD !
One more problem bitcoin has to deal with Smiley
1034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 09, 2014, 05:56:05 PM
I just ask the question, because i would love to see a deadline and all the buzzling just before the xmas. Would you agree with me, that the launch at 24.12.2014 could be a huge marketing stunt? "This xmas santa will bring a huge gift for everyone, NEM will come into existence"
I dont want to see a deadline. As long as it is not possible to know when the code is ready for launch, a deadline is not only senseless, it is even counterproductive, because it creates negative pressure on the devs and leads in either early, buggy launch or delayed launch which is annoying for you all.

NEM is no pump & dump coin for speculators making quick money. It is a long-term movement.

This is a topic gone over a million times, and common sense pretty much says this - those who pressure for a release are likely people looking for quick fiat anyway, and won't contribute to the nem ecosystem.

I want NEM to be solid, without it things will crash pretty quickly.

While I agree we shouldn't dilly dally either. There is a window of opportunity, and it doesn't stay open forever.

Dont get me wrong, i want to perfect product just like anyone else. Have you guys recently saw that any major movie, game or product launch without a clear launch date?

How likely is it that you'll find bugs in the movie that could break it when it's played ?
Have you looked at the state that games are shipped in lately ? They could use A LOT more time.


You guys are making one fatal error. Because you have used the whole we won't relaese till the product is perfect smokescreen to deflect from the truth that you simply haven't finished your shit coin and have a project that has sprawled over 3 fucking years is this. When you do release and the inevitable bug arises this coin will be not only the biggest joke coin in crypto history but you will alway witness the steepest drop in price ever.

I might of respected you guys if you simply said you couldn't finish the coin I time. All this sock puppet registering drawn out to help more register is what I suspected, a simple case of stalling and incompetence.

Well it is releasing this month, so you might be eating crow, but if it gets delayed again, I will owe you a beer.

Actually there a good chance it won't release this month as outlined a couple of times.

Since you quote the fucktard i might as well answer...

@FuckingNEM: Not that you're worth an answer but this is an easy one. We have stated ouritght that we didn't finish multi-sig in time.
1035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 09, 2014, 05:23:42 PM
I just ask the question, because i would love to see a deadline and all the buzzling just before the xmas. Would you agree with me, that the launch at 24.12.2014 could be a huge marketing stunt? "This xmas santa will bring a huge gift for everyone, NEM will come into existence"
I dont want to see a deadline. As long as it is not possible to know when the code is ready for launch, a deadline is not only senseless, it is even counterproductive, because it creates negative pressure on the devs and leads in either early, buggy launch or delayed launch which is annoying for you all.

NEM is no pump & dump coin for speculators making quick money. It is a long-term movement.

This is a topic gone over a million times, and common sense pretty much says this - those who pressure for a release are likely people looking for quick fiat anyway, and won't contribute to the nem ecosystem.

I want NEM to be solid, without it things will crash pretty quickly.

While I agree we shouldn't dilly dally either. There is a window of opportunity, and it doesn't stay open forever.

Dont get me wrong, i want to perfect product just like anyone else. Have you guys recently saw that any major movie, game or product launch without a clear launch date?

How likely is it that you'll find bugs in the movie that could break it when it's played ?
Have you looked at the state that games are shipped in lately ? They could use A LOT more time.
1036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 09, 2014, 10:41:26 AM
Are we going to see the launch before or after the Christmas?

I am sure, launch is before Christmas - but I am not sure about the year.

Such wasted negative energy, why not focus on being productive?

I just ask the question, because i would love to see a deadline and all the buzzling just before the xmas. Would you agree with me, that the launch at 24.12.2014 could be a huge marketing stunt? "This xmas santa will bring a huge gift for everyone, NEM will come into existence"

This would be nice but the question is, will the coin be ready for launch until then? If you ask me, I doubt it. Anyways we need to sit back and have patience, let the DEVs do their job. On the other side, I understand that this will pull a lot of criticism since there are a lot of inpatient people out there who are looking for a quick launch!!

I share those doubts and also i think most people will have better things todo on christmas eve. Most if not all of the devs have family and SOs so I don't think they'd launch on the 24th even if we were ready. Remember that these people are not just working for NEM (i.e. have jobs) and they are already putting huge amounts of their free time into NEM and have so far gotten nothing for it.
1037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 08, 2014, 07:04:22 PM

CfB has said many times that he doubts POI will work. Nothing new really if that's what you're getting at ?
I think the main reason is that people think it's a completely new thing. POI is an improvement over POS but POS isn't completely scratched it's just broadend with a few more factors so it's not just balance that counts but also activity. 
1038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption extended[Updates&Discussion] on: December 08, 2014, 09:35:21 AM
3) Code is based on test-driven development, so people that invest in NEM are getting a much better product for their money that has been developed better

I don't want to put words in your mouth but saying Nxt doesn't test their code before release would not be true. Test-driven development is a pretty standard practice.

That's not what he's saying. Test-driven development doesn't merely mean testing your stuff. It means writing unit-tests before really implementing the actuall function. So you know what a function is supposed to do and write a test based on that and then test your function with it once you've implemented it. That way you can be certain your function does what you wanted it todo and of course with unit-tests in place you can recheck every time you change the code so it doesn't brake somewhere along the way.

I have no idea how NXT devs operate though so I'm not argueing either way.
1039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 29 November[Updates&Discussion] on: December 07, 2014, 08:46:34 AM
the more you reply to FUD, the more you promote it. 

THIS !

Just ignore him.
1040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 29 November[Updates&Discussion] on: December 06, 2014, 02:29:31 PM
Is there a "best list" for poi competition?

you mean competition rankings? no not at the moment.. il post a the highest score soon.


JG7777           0.0014
mladen00        0.0013
schnötzel       0.0013
greese          0.0011
9               0.0011
jabo38          0.0011
tolstoy         0.0011
dadingsda       0.0011
jkoil           0.0011
solix           0.0011
Thanks kod Smiley

It looks like the devs have shown who knows the most about PoI Cheesy   
Is that Jaguar who is leading?

Quite absolute that three best is now known. After three weeks competition they have 20% better importance than others. If the fourth would like to improve his position, it would require another three weeks. Would he beat the devs? Unlikely Cheesy




There isn't a single dev in this competition.
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