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1021  Economy / Speculation / Re: People selling alts to go back in BTC on: April 04, 2017, 09:32:52 AM
No, even they buy altcoins, they still trade bitcoin because they know if bitcoin get lost support surely the price bitcoin will down much.
1022  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you keep your bitcoins? on: April 04, 2017, 07:05:53 AM
I only keep a little bitcoin that can called satoshi so because i only have a little me choose to save at local exchanger. honestly online wallet is save too, for feel save you only need to add some protection.
1023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: April 04, 2017, 06:45:36 AM
If im not wrong, there is any one person have same question like you, most gamblers do is keep their winnings as reserve deposits. i'll try to answer, hmm most i only use a little winnings to buy something that i like.
1024  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: The Criminal Syndicate That Is Bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io on: April 04, 2017, 06:38:39 AM
Hello

I am going to warn you about sportsbet.io and bitcasino.io.

Take it how you want. I am sure there will be some people who are part of the signature campaign that will come to there rescue .

They are unethical and down right criminal . They use a bunch of unethical tricks and rigged games to steal from you.

Some of these tricks are using complicated promos to try to steal from you.

All there promos have many conditions and are always hidden in the small print and are worded very very complicated.

They do this so they can steal your money.

Another one is that they offer near scam odds, they have some of worst odds on the internet . They do this so they can pay less  and take more.

They also do crazy live odd scams , and reject bets that are in your favor. They say they dont but scams dont say they scam.

Another one is the countless tech errors . If anyone has played this site, you will have many errors they have too look info.

They say they have to look into it or that they have to check with  there game providers.

They get back to you later with no explanation and then say oh theres nothing they can do the game providers decide and you loose your money.

They have tons of other tech problems like withdrawal blocks and withdrawls not being sent out.

The biggest one is that the games they say are provable fair are not really they do this by alternating the dealer seed after you put in the player seed . So that they can control the outcome. It will verify because they are altering to there results. If you dont  believe me  you can check, and sometimes the hashes dont verify. They  look over this when ever you bring it to there attention because if they say its rigged it open a can of worms.

They will not admit to scamming you no scammer would.

You just need to use common sense and if you play at all there with any volume you can tell there a scam. There site is in decline which is why there starting to steal more. You can check sports leader boards all bets are down.

I have many many more things they do to scam people but this just a warning

In the past a support person name andrea has helped whenever there was probs. Now there is not good support people and they are part of the problem
You can try to contact them signature campaign manager but im not believe sportsbet.io is a scammer. they run a sig campaign in this forum and all sig campaign participant never get late for their payment.
1025  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: April 03, 2017, 03:43:26 PM
no matter what happens bitcoin price will surely increase in the future no matter what happens

Not everyone has that much faith in bitcoin though.  Some are shortsighted and those who trade frequently are more likely to panic sell.

Yes, it seems that some users have lost their faith in Bitcoin any many of them are prone to panic selling. But I think there is no solid reason for panic and experienced traders should know better then that. But it's easy to react on current issues on the market although is always better to keep the cool head and think twice about every decision

I think they must be new to bitcoin community and are not used to price fluctuations involve in bitcoins so looking at price going down they easily get panic thinking that bitcoins will not bounce back again and start selling their coins at cheap price.
That is normal for a newbie to get panic when the price is dumping and also pumping. Because they didn't have that enough knowledge then it is very easy for them to get hyped up by the rumors that is spreading when the dump or pump is happening and then the result for them is jumping into the hype without even thinking what they just did but the good thing is, it will serve as a lesson for them and after those mistakes they will become better.
Not only newbie if you see the big dump coming on, you will panic and will sell your bitcoin, all you have or only a little for cover up when the price keep going down.
1026  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: April 03, 2017, 03:40:30 PM
basically everybody who have decide to gamble have an expectation to get profit right?

it is just the matter how you treat gambling mostly in your daily life , when you really enjoying the game without have to take a look into how much you have lost / won then you sure haave treat gambling as an entertainment way , no wonder you keep getting back to play no matter what.

I treat it just the way you describe it as well however I do regularly come back. I dont see myself as getting addicted because Im not spending what I shouldnt. People will still come back whenever they feel like playing even when what they are looking for is more of entertainment and not huge profit
i have tried done it before to gamble only on the amount that i can afford to lose.

but still the excitement always hook everybody in to do it over and over again especially when you suffering lost even it is just a small amount compared to the whole bankroll you have , it is sometimes could bring you into huge lost , you might have experienced the same thing too right?
That's all back to your mind if you gambling with a little amount, surely you will go into the trap because you will be emotional when gambling on that's day. that's why too, im always thinkin there no strategy and if you can afford to lose before gamble so why not you start with big value.
1027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: April 03, 2017, 03:27:54 PM

I agree if you want to quit gambling for good, you need to lessen your stay with casino's and do something productive. This is going to be effective and you can make it a little by little. As long as you will make your time worthy for other things and replaced your time with gambling, this is going to help you to get out of addiction.

The only thing that you need to do is to have a determination that you want to quit. If there isnt any determination at all , dont expect that thing to happen. One thing for sure, even when there are variety of things to do to stop your addiction , you might always come back to play if you are not determined enough
I guess just with have a the determination is not enough to make you stop gambling, at least you should divert your attention to one thing can make you forget about gambling and i have one idea is you must playing game for a while.
1028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling investment is zero sum on: April 03, 2017, 03:23:23 PM
Gambling investment is zero or negative sum, considering the house has to profit.

So why are you guys do bitcoin gambling as an investment instruments? OR merely just for the fun, like going to a physical casino.
It's not called gambling investment when you are not getting a profit from gambling, it is only for fun or maybe you consider a gambling house as charity since you love donating your money. The only way I can call gambling as investment is by putting my money in an online casino's bankroll and I know they win all the time so I'm also profitable and investment makes sense then.
But both options have nearly the same risk, however it is still safer if you choose to invest in the site you gamble gambling than that in an instant can give you a loss.
1029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: April 03, 2017, 12:53:04 PM
addiction

eager and impatience.

I wanted to earn some quick cash

I told myself days ago i wouldn't bet again

Then just now theres a dota 2 match, i betted $50 and lost.

Damn

That is true majority of the people have this kind of though including me too. We always want to make more money with easiest way so this is the reason why place bets again and again.

People like easy money and because of that only many people are choosing to gamble to make easy money. But it is wrong gambling will not give easy money it will take our hard work money. Only the lucky people can make money in gambling. But every big loss will make us come back again and play gambling. This is our greed problem.

Well it really doesn't mater whether its wrong or not though. The lure of easy money goes beyond right or wrong. And its not just about that as well. Gambling is an exciting and fun activity that challenges people at times. Some people crave those kinds of challenges.
Treating gambling as a challenge for me is really a bad idea because you will strive to overcome those challenges (ex. you would really like to win or strive to hit target amount/jackpot) its not a good behavior because with these aims will surely lead you to play on constant basis.
I did not catch you, how to treat a disease was seen gambling. Here I disagree with you every individual has a different reason is actually easy if you want to stop gambling, you have to fight a little when experiencing the urge to gambling .
1030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: April 03, 2017, 08:56:35 AM
There is no way that experience can be helpful in gambling as it is only based on luck, if you are lucky you win and if not then you loose as simple as that and if someone is admitting that he has won with the experience then that is not true for sure.
The question itself not asking for is that experience can make you win or not.
But more to how necessary you gamble with experience , so of course noone guarantee you to win experience.
But at least make you be more confident and know the situation what should you do with all the experience you have .

The experience will not make us win the game, but we can learn something from the experience. Experience is our best teacher. With experience we can read the conditions and looking for ideas of what to do with the situation. When we study the experience, we can learn not to repeat the same mistakes. Experience always helps us in any case if we can learn them well.

In gambling, we can not learn anything from experience. But in trading and investing every loss will teach you a new lesson. In gambling, one method will not repeat next time. So today you will win your bet with using one method, but tomorrow if you use the same method you will lose. In this situation what you will learn. In gambling, we have to play every time with a new strategy.

According to my opinion, we can learn from the experience of gambling. Gambling was spacious, in addition to placing a bet on a game and predictions, organize our finances, too, is a gamble. Why? because when finances else we should really do it right. One bit we could lose a lot of money. Therefore experience in managing money and when they lose money very able for us to learn. When we had the experience failed to organize our finances and lose a lot of money with short, we can learn from these experiences in order not to repeat the same mistakes.
The learning is probably only on how to minimize your loses, no matter you do a lot of hard work gambling is just not that easy to win.
I think most of us have the same experience, we keep losing but then again we are still here gambling over and over again. We lose and we win
but in the long run we are still in the deficit side, now we have to be matured enough and learn to enjoy by not spending much.

Yes there is no hard work with gambling sometimes it just takes minutes to lose or win.
This kind of game can change someone with just a single large bet.
I have tried betting once with a large amount and it doesn't seem right when I lost.
Maybe I should've played it slowly and somehow analyze if there could be some binary thing that is happening.
What I did was just based on luck. One time bet win or lose, 50-50.
Agree with you although many say that by increasing the chance of winning then you can win, but in my opinion they are still dependent on luck and yes all the strategies is just hogwash.
1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When did you start gambling? (Because of BCT Promotion?) on: April 03, 2017, 08:20:49 AM
I was knows gambling before know bitcoin, mostly the gambler has known bitcoin they will use bitcoin but different on me only selected old site that have good reputation.
1032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what bet size do you start with when gambling dice? on: April 03, 2017, 08:11:53 AM
I never specify, the smallest value of my bets on a dice game. false depending on how much bankroll that I've had for gambling and when i know possibility for me win is really small then i try to earn money by using faucet as my capital.
1033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: March 28, 2017, 06:28:19 PM
Many people here are asking "How gambling can benefits us by winning" on it using strategy like Martingale, or pure luck when we are playing DICE?
But I'm just wondering when do people will realize that gambling can never be the one that could benefits us, because the truth is, we could lose the thing that we can't lose to afford before we could be benefited by gambling.
There is a guarantee for that, i mean using martingale will be able to give you victory especially if you apply in a dice game that will harm yourself.
1034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: March 28, 2017, 05:27:21 PM
Always. If there is no analysis there is only chance factor and im so unlucky. I use lots of data. Statics, odds, weather, player performance, team form situation , home&away performance etc. Bet after analysis all of them. Win possibility is increase. Especiallay analysis goals but still need luck. Just a little bit.

Best strategy is dont bet after win. Dont be greedy. Winning can attractive but when start to lost it never end.


But mate not all games in the gambling needs analysis jut for to win in the gambling like in roulette, and dice games. Do you think this two need that things? isn't it does not necessary? But you are right that in sports bet and blackjack and poker game those are really need analysis  town in the games.
Since when you can analyze the game of poker, the card you got always random and a room is not always full by players.
1035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: March 27, 2017, 04:09:11 PM
Well I think it still does,
But I don't really know how maybe in the decision that they make.

Yes it will always does matter, an experienced gambler has more chance of winning as he is more familiar of what he is playing and doing. Also in decision making, he knows what to do when he is dealing into a risky situation where he can decide very fast especially when he already went through that situation.

I don't think there is no need of any experience to gamble, completely depends on the decisions he makes. A good gambler will play according to situation because he may quit gambling when he is continuously making money.

I'm saying that if you are an experienced gambler then you had a lot of chance of winning. As you had familiarity on such games that you gamble. I know that it doesn't need to be experienced one as long as you had money or coins to gamble. But still we all know that experience is always the best teacher, don't forget that.
Experience is helpful only when you're playing skill based games, when it comes to pure luck based games experience doesn't matters. luck is something which doesn't comes from experience.
Yes that is the point. If a person will do invest in sport betting sites for betting on sports then he will win if he know about the game and if he wil bet for a team about which if he will know that that team is more energetic and will win that is what we call as experience while in other gambling games like dice it is mostly depend on luck some experience may help.
That's mean those person not want to save his/her earning, why he not looking to invest in other site by doing both of that's he/she can get double income.
1036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Go to Land Based Casinos? on: March 27, 2017, 12:13:02 PM
I do go to real life casinos yes. I've been to Vegas twice too. Bitcoin gambling is fun but you don't get the buzz of a real life casino when playing online.
yes online casinos are a little different and the feeling at there are also different from other real casino but the benefit of online casino is that you pay a smaller amount of money for gambling in these casino while in real casino you will pay which is not favorable for some people.

Well yeah there's that but i think every once in a ehile if you have money to spare it won't hurt going to a real casino to experience the difference it has with online sites. The experience being there is already something to look forward to. You don't just sit and look at your screen the whole day but you feel and live what its like to really gamble
Yes may be its true, but every person has different personal. I mean there are people who do not like gambling online because there are rumors that there are tricks of cheating.
1037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: March 27, 2017, 11:57:23 AM
Don't be fooled, experience matters as in everything else in life. The only game that is 99% based on luck is slot, with games like dice and roulette, the odds for bet types differs for a number of reasons. It takes experience to decipher a dangerous bet setup and how to take advantage of statistics in creating one's luck. What actually  stands in the way of players is not lack of some winning strategies, but the lack of experience to realise when to quit.
I think quite the opposite if you have  much experience will make you easy to stop gambling and statistics isnt related with luck but is related with strategy.  
1038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: March 25, 2017, 06:49:57 PM
Of course, yes. I will play with my profit. There is nothing to lose with it since this is already your profit. But not all my profit, I will bet maybe 25% of it first and so on to have a longer play time. Not on an all in, and lose all.
Yeah, better play some of them not all of them, but I think it is not right when you say nothing to lose since it is already your profit. It is yours, that means when you lose it, that also means you lost.
In a simple explanation you got a money from gambling but you just hold it for a while because you have lost.
At least he has try to get more than he got before by using safe way, agree with you we only keep the profit only for a while because how many we get will back to the house.
1039  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: March 25, 2017, 06:26:28 PM
My friend told me about bitcoin and actually i was just trying to find some extra type of income from home when i don't have anything to do. And i was gambling before satoshi created bitcoin. So to both questions my answer is: No.
That's mean you are not interested use bitcoin for gambling same like me but always try to share information about gambling that i know maybe many btctalk member do same things too.
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