Scripting it is pretty easy. I think payb.tc posted a basic PHP script for making martingale bets on SatoshiDice in the main SatoshiDice thread. I'll dig up a link to it later if you like. It would be pretty trivial to adapt it to play your strategy.
Here's the thread about payb.tc's SatoshiDice bot: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=80245
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Why don't you start your own site, invest your own money and time, and then you can see how much you like it for people to tell you how they think you should run your game.
I think I would like it just fine. Constructive feedback is the breakfast of champions. Do not complain about my site not displaying something the way you want, when I tell you it is explained clearly in "how it works" page, and then when I am finally forced to change the displayed number because your complaining makes people spread FUD and claim I'm scam, you complain about "how it works" page that you ignored in the first place.
You changed how it works (building the house edge into the multiplier, rather than quoting a higher multiplier and then subtracting the house edge) but didn't update the 'how it works' page. That resulted in the "how it works" page not correctly documenting how it works, so I pointed it out. Leave it wrong if you like. Do you complain because satoshidice says they use magic in their game? Hmmm?
No. I didn't complain about their tongue-in-cheek "ghost of Satoshi" reference either. I'm pretty sure none of it is meant to be taken seriously, whereas I suspect that's not the case for your site. Maybe I should change my entire "How it works" page to "I use magic because Dooglus thinks he owns this game."
Maybe it would be best if you quoted the payouts you actually pay out, and then document it correctly. Just a crazy idea.
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Ahh, yes.... I only managed to do it for a couple of hours myself. Profit was around 2BTC, as I recall...
If I just knew how to make a script for it....
Scripting it is pretty easy. I think payb.tc posted a basic PHP script for making martingale bets on SatoshiDice in the main SatoshiDice thread. I'll dig up a link to it later if you like. It would be pretty trivial to adapt it to play your strategy. Edit: what I didn't say, but meant to imply, was: "scripting it is easy, but pointless, since every strategy is a losing strategy. The only point of playing SD is if you have fun playing it, and having a script play it for you pretty much removes any fun, I'd have thought".
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Results: 2012-Sep-25 10:27am (up to block 200493)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 21614 | 0 (0.00000) | 21251 | 363 | 191.04 | 0.01 | 32.16 | 191.02 | 0.010 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 1788 | 0 (0.00000) | 1714 | 74 | 25.28 | 0.00 | 7.38 | 25.28 | 0.007 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 2378 | 0 (0.00000) | 2341 | 37 | 29.91 | 0.02 | 4.22 | 29.88 | 0.094 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 2514 | 1 (0.00040) | 2469 | 44 | 52.22 | 8.06 | 5.65 | 44.15 | 15.445 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 2564 | 1 (0.00040) | 2527 | 36 | 95.14 | 4.25 | 7.40 | 90.88 | 4.477 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 5504 | 3 (0.00055) | 5489 | 12 | 381.22 | 303.32 | 1.29 | 77.89 | 79.567 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 7891 | 8 (0.00102) | 7861 | 22 | 646.98 | 124.39 | 55.64 | 522.59 | 19.227 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 10047 | 19 (0.00190) | 9972 | 56 | 1598.66 | 1274.64 | 44.25 | 324.01 | 79.732 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 9911 | 43 (0.00434) | 9854 | 14 | 1288.07 | 1302.34 | 13.11 | -14.27 | 101.108 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 15215 | 116 (0.00763) | 15090 | 9 | 2650.96 | 2009.84 | 9.35 | 641.12 | 75.816 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 30194 | 450 (0.01491) | 29732 | 12 | 8325.94 | 7700.68 | 1.80 | 625.25 | 92.490 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 15056 | 344 (0.02286) | 14706 | 6 | 4701.45 | 4858.84 | 15.00 | -157.38 | 103.348 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 22717 | 700 (0.03082) | 22013 | 4 | 5486.15 | 4647.35 | 9.24 | 838.79 | 84.711 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 15293 | 704 (0.04606) | 14581 | 8 | 6795.96 | 8066.48 | 24.99 | -1270.52 | 118.695 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 15871 | 984 (0.06202) | 14883 | 4 | 4645.85 | 4126.35 | 31.20 | 519.49 | 88.818 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 21103 | 1973 (0.09357) | 19112 | 18 | 10109.67 | 10074.06 | 7.01 | 35.61 | 99.648 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 84641 | 10416 (0.12309) | 74202 | 23 | 10352.67 | 8943.34 | 0.00 | 1409.32 | 86.387 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 21075 | 3954 (0.18773) | 17108 | 13 | 8271.75 | 8517.32 | 14.50 | -245.56 | 102.969 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 83367 | 20298 (0.24354) | 63046 | 23 | 49803.79 | 48623.81 | 347.79 | 1179.98 | 97.631 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 60823 | 22328 (0.36737) | 38450 | 45 | 29914.13 | 29164.21 | 212.64 | 749.92 | 97.493 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 530782 | 258784 (0.48795) | 271561 | 437 | 317903.19 | 316505.08 | 2173.41 | 1398.11 | 99.560 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 195105 | 97239 (0.49886) | 97683 | 183 | 190690.25 | 188454.71 | 1295.22 | 2235.53 | 98.828 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 150979 | 111044 (0.73587) | 39858 | 77 | 153546.62 | 151317.42 | 467.98 | 2229.19 | 98.548 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 12400 | 9862 (0.79577) | 2531 | 7 | 21512.33 | 21274.84 | 400.00 | 237.49 | 98.896 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 11567 | 9894 (0.85692) | 1652 | 21 | 12287.74 | 12040.25 | 400.00 | 247.48 | 97.986 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 5606 | 5126 (0.91552) | 473 | 7 | 9865.97 | 9791.56 | 0.00 | 74.40 | 99.246 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 7607 | 7318 (0.97991) | 150 | 139 | 16309.10 | 16031.33 | 239.21 | 277.77 | 98.297 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 1318135 | 538658 | 777992 | 1485 | 329637.49 | 320693.57 | 147.21 | 8943.91 | 97.287 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 45477 | 22951 | 22317 | 209 | 537844.67 | 534471.07 | 5673.35 | 3373.60 | 99.373 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 1363612 | 561609 | 800309 | 1694 | 867482.17 | 855164.65 | 5820.56 | 12317.52 | 98.580 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 12317.52011634 BTC (1.420%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 686.95472500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 11630.56539134 BTC (1.341%) ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 4516574 : SatoshiDice Tx: 2527097 (56.0%) Blockchain MB: 1873.3 : SatoshiDice Tx: 1032.9 (55.1%)
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It looks like you've reduced the payout multipliers that are displayed, but not changed the "how it works": From http://btcdice.com/howitworks.html : You place a bet by sending bitcoins to one of the addresses listed in the 'Games' table. BTC Dice sees this, evaluates a win or loss and generates a return transaction. If you lose, we return your bet times 0.005 less house percent, or 0.00000001, whichever is greater. If you win, your bet is multiplied by the prize multiplier, the house percentage is subtracted, and that amount is sent back. Do you still subtract the house percentage after multiplying by the multiplier? What about when the player loses? Do you still subtract the house percentage then too?
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This seems to be a clone of Satoshi's dice with user defined odds as the point of differentiation.
1) Could you make one consistent address to send wagers to. (like Satoshi's Dice) 2) Could you allow the user to specify the odds of winning using the insignifcant digits of the amount bet (e.g.) say I'm wagering 1 BTC and I want to earn 64.0 BTC if I win. I could send 1.00000640 bitcoins to your single address. 3) You could specify a maximum possible winning payout to avoid jackpot's that break the bank. It would be quite transparent (e.g. no payouts greater than 100.0 BTC). If I send you, 1.00010000 bitcoins, then you return the 1 bitcoin because the bet payout is too big for you to cover.
I think that would be a more user-friendly design (no need to access the webpage at all, except to nervously check bet results).
It would also be quite easy to verify your payment track record in the blockchain.
A problem with this is that although you can specify how much you risk and how much you want to win, both using the amount you send, you can't tell what the actual odds are going to be without visiting the website. The odds the site offers you depends not only on the ratio of risk to payout, but also on the percentage of the house wallet that you're trying to win. There would be no way of later checking what the odds should have been for your bet. i.e. you won't know how close your chosen number had to be to the randomly picked number for you to have won. If implemented at all, the scheme you suggest should be in addition to the current system, rather than a replacement of it.
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Losing (as in someone else deposits) will only cause you a loss of 0.001 BTC as you can deposit again and win all of your deposits back
I deposit 0.1 Someone else deposits 0.1 I deposit another 0.1 and win I get 0.3 - 0.003 = 0.297. Where's my 0.001 BTC loss? Looks like a 0.097 BTC profit to me.
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Dear SatoshiDice,
How about adding bets "lessthan 36000", "40000", and "44000"?
There's currently a big gap between 32768 and 48000.
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BTCDice now marked as a scam.
If you're going to define SCAM as "No payouts and the admins do not respond to contact attempts" then the label of scam is inaccurate in this case. They do pay, they just don't pay what most reasonable users would expect them to pay after reading their front page.
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I just played a 12-player freeroll. I wanted to watch one of the other tables while I was playing, but the 'observe table' button only offered the choice of tables 1 through 3. I wanted to watch table 6. Is there some way to watch tables with numbers higher than 3? I tried double-clicking the player's name, but that didn't work.
Oh, that box scrolls down. It's a little quirky, I'd like it if double-clicking the player's name opened their table too. But single-clicking the table is the only way. Oh, OK then. I didn't see a scroll bar, but maybe there is one.
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I just played a 12-player freeroll. I wanted to watch one of the other tables while I was playing, but the 'observe table' button only offered the choice of tables 1 through 3. I wanted to watch table 6. Is there some way to watch tables with numbers higher than 3? I tried double-clicking the player's name, but that didn't work.
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There is no such thing as karma, but when you are reincarnating it makes sense to try and leave yourself a better world to come back to. This is part of why I support communism/socialism. Trying to help everyone improve their living conditions increases the odds of a comfortable next life.
Exactly.
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Fraudulent: Obtained, done by, or involving deception He's presumably being honest about the workings of the scheme. So he's not using deception. So it's not fraudulent. So it's not a ponzi. So he's lying about it being a ponzi. So he's using deception. So it's fraudulent. So it's a ponzi. QED
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It's sound though, because it works off karma.
That's all I needed to hear about the Dank Bank to decide whether to invest or not. Dooglus, I suppose you don't believe in it then? Right.
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Results: 2012-Sep-24 11:48am (up to block 200351)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 21575 | 0 (0.00000) | 21213 | 362 | 190.53 | 0.01 | 32.06 | 190.51 | 0.010 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 1787 | 0 (0.00000) | 1713 | 74 | 25.28 | 0.00 | 7.38 | 25.28 | 0.007 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 2375 | 0 (0.00000) | 2338 | 37 | 29.90 | 0.02 | 4.22 | 29.87 | 0.094 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 2512 | 1 (0.00041) | 2467 | 44 | 52.20 | 8.06 | 5.65 | 44.13 | 15.451 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 2560 | 1 (0.00040) | 2523 | 36 | 94.69 | 4.25 | 7.40 | 90.43 | 4.497 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 5503 | 3 (0.00055) | 5488 | 12 | 380.86 | 303.32 | 1.29 | 77.53 | 79.642 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 7888 | 8 (0.00102) | 7858 | 22 | 646.97 | 124.39 | 55.64 | 522.58 | 19.227 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 10039 | 19 (0.00190) | 9964 | 56 | 1598.64 | 1274.64 | 44.25 | 323.99 | 79.733 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 9910 | 43 (0.00435) | 9853 | 14 | 1288.06 | 1302.34 | 13.11 | -14.27 | 101.109 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 15210 | 116 (0.00763) | 15085 | 9 | 2650.95 | 2009.84 | 9.35 | 641.11 | 75.816 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 30178 | 449 (0.01488) | 29717 | 12 | 8325.83 | 7700.04 | 1.80 | 625.79 | 92.484 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 15052 | 344 (0.02286) | 14702 | 6 | 4701.37 | 4858.84 | 15.00 | -157.46 | 103.349 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 22659 | 699 (0.03085) | 21956 | 4 | 5483.76 | 4646.71 | 9.24 | 837.04 | 84.736 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 15273 | 702 (0.04599) | 14563 | 8 | 6795.37 | 8065.14 | 24.99 | -1269.77 | 118.686 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 15859 | 981 (0.06187) | 14874 | 4 | 4644.66 | 4121.07 | 31.20 | 523.59 | 88.727 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 21060 | 1972 (0.09372) | 19070 | 18 | 10029.58 | 9967.08 | 7.01 | 62.50 | 99.377 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 84602 | 10411 (0.12309) | 74168 | 23 | 10348.87 | 8942.19 | 0.00 | 1406.67 | 86.407 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 21035 | 3947 (0.18776) | 17075 | 13 | 8218.93 | 8418.93 | 14.50 | -200.00 | 102.433 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 83064 | 20233 (0.24365) | 62808 | 23 | 49522.04 | 48450.32 | 347.79 | 1071.71 | 97.836 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 60746 | 22292 (0.36724) | 38409 | 45 | 29892.85 | 29134.37 | 212.64 | 758.48 | 97.463 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 528699 | 257745 (0.48791) | 270517 | 437 | 317403.06 | 316040.32 | 2173.41 | 1362.74 | 99.571 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 194816 | 97086 (0.49882) | 97547 | 183 | 190121.85 | 187888.95 | 1295.22 | 2232.89 | 98.826 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 150818 | 110927 (0.73588) | 39814 | 77 | 153498.86 | 151267.40 | 467.98 | 2231.45 | 98.546 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 12247 | 9739 (0.79567) | 2501 | 7 | 20989.49 | 20951.13 | 400.00 | 38.35 | 99.817 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 11526 | 9859 (0.85693) | 1646 | 21 | 12150.76 | 12021.12 | 400.00 | 129.63 | 98.933 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 5579 | 5102 (0.91565) | 470 | 7 | 9847.91 | 9776.02 | 0.00 | 71.89 | 99.270 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 7603 | 7314 (0.97990) | 150 | 139 | 16308.70 | 16030.93 | 239.21 | 277.77 | 98.297 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 1314776 | 537070 | 776222 | 1484 | 329034.51 | 320074.85 | 147.11 | 8959.66 | 97.277 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 45399 | 22923 | 22267 | 209 | 536207.58 | 533232.72 | 5673.35 | 2974.86 | 99.445 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 1360175 | 559993 | 798489 | 1693 | 865242.10 | 853307.57 | 5820.46 | 11934.52 | 98.621 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 11934.52699252 BTC (1.379%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 685.22687500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 11249.30011752 BTC (1.300%) ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 4494521 : SatoshiDice Tx: 2520228 (56.1%) Blockchain MB: 1864.3 : SatoshiDice Tx: 1030.1 (55.3%)
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Just want everyone to know that I won playing less than 3200 with a number of 1834... and to think I was so tempted to bet for below 2000...
Maybe you already know, but if you like you can split your bet in a single transaction. Put half on <2000 and half on <3200, and you'll get the same lucky number for both bets. It seems like quite a common thing for people to do; you can bet on all the bets at once if you like - there seems to be no limit.
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Id appreciate some feedback on either listing as scam or permanently shelving the game in unattended until the matter is resolved..
Well, it's certainly not unattended. They're deliberately quoting the payouts like that, and actively defending the decision. I think it's better not to remove any service from the list, since that may lead new players to think you just didn't review the service yet. I'd say leave it on the list and mark it according to what you think of their service.
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It's sound though, because it works off karma.
That's all I needed to hear about the Dank Bank to decide whether to invest or not.
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