Can you offer your account as collateral? I can give the loan if you do. I see you don't have a signature campaign so you wouldn't lose any income.
In either case can you sign a message with an old address for security? For example with the address 1KbsFViiFMUiL8HkX3wGzD8u77WX1UEszQ posted here or any other posted 4+ months ago.

This was already responded before.
No, you don't need to post anything here, just follow the instructions posted on the OP. Yes, only one winner this time.

Of course being extremist never makes sense. The trust system would be useless if nobody (or almost nobody) had green trust as much as if everyone (or too many people) had it. When I make a successful deal with some significant risked BTC then I almost always leave positive trust. When the risked BTC is zero or close to zero then it's very subjective. It depends whether the other party was very communicative and nothing at all was fishy; basically if my guts say the user is trustworthy. Of course it's OK to leave positive trust on several of those cases but not always and that's up to the person leaving the trust. It must be checked cased by case.


Yes and that's very helpful when people really check the trust. But something really important to consider is that even if we don't like it several newbies will blindly trust green accounts without actually looking at the actual feedback, +10 could look like a lot. Therefore we need to be somewhat strict when giving those away and check them in the future time to time for a possible rectification.

I like that $50 policy. The problem I see is that when you receive the payment first (as you always do when acting as escrow) the actual amount you're risking is always zero, regardless of the amount of the trade. Therefore by your logic you should always leave a neutral rating when you're escrowing.

It's my understanding that the field 'Risked BTC amount' for positive ratings somehow says what amount we can trust a user won't scam for because he's already had the chance to scam for that much and didn't. For example if I make some work for BTC1 I usually get 50% beforehand. I receive BTC0.50, I do the job and then I receive the other BTC0.50. The person I dealt with could have scammed me for BTC0.50 after receiving the work, but he didn't therefore I leave a positive trust with a risked amount of BTC0.50.
If someone pays 100% beforehand then the amount I risked is 0. He couldn't scam me in this case even if he wanted to, therefore I don't know whether he's trustworthy for BTC1, BTC0.5 or any amount.

If you escrow a deal then both parties send you the good or payment first to you. In that case you're not risking anything. You don't have any way to know whether they would have scammed if they could. Again, the amount you risked to them is zero.

This seems to be a problem if real. I'd like to read SebastianJu's version.
A single positive default trust feedback makes an account green so it should be given only when one really thinks someone is trustworthy. And as described in the profile page the risked amount should always be set to zero if the other person sends first. It doesn't make sense that an escrow includes a non-zero risked amount unless there's something we don't know, in that case that extra information should be included in the feedback.
I really think escrows shouldn't leave feedback at all unless something particularly positive or negative happened in the deal.

Indeed. I can fund this loan if the Hero account has neutral (or positive) trust and a message signed with an address (or PGP key) posted 3+ months ago can be provided.

OP confirm you can do that. If you can't then nobody should take that account as collateral and therefore shouldn't give the loan.

Confirmed.

When you repay to whywefight's address 165vWS7Dr87kzTbMJcaKw37DB6iJVKXLRa just PM me and post here your FTC address and I'll refund them.

Confirmed.
whywefight please send 0.05 BTC to Joebrann's address 1LAD1vJqVAVzdsd447jF3x9CoP6R2o9muE.

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Joebrann: please send 2700 FTC to my address 6q1MeXy1yR71RHkePEcjdCFasb39HN4RKN
whywefight: after the mentioned address has 2700 FTC with 3+ confirmations please send 0.05 BTC to Joebrann's address 1LAD1vJqVAVzdsd447jF3x9CoP6R2o9muE

If whywefight's address 165vWS7Dr87kzTbMJcaKw37DB6iJVKXLRa has received 0.0501 BTC by 2015-09-01 then I'll refund the FTC (minux TX fees) to an address given by Joebrann. Otherwise I'll send the FTC to an address given by whywefight.

EcuaMobi,
2015-08-01
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Waiting for Joebrann then...

Indeed it doesn't make sense to give BTC collateral for a BTC loan. Will the interest still be 2%? So will the payback be 0.051?
Confirm to write another signed message with the terms.

OK the repayment is 0.102BTC


Noted, where will you receive the loan Joebrann?

Yes do wait please. I will confirm when it's safe to send the loan.

I need both whywefight and Joebrann to post unique BTC addresses for this deal, to receive the loan and later the repayment. These addresses can't be used anywhere else so I know for sure whether or not the respective payments were sent.
And Joebrann please confirm the repayment will be 0.12 BTC. Note that's 20% interest while you mentioned 2% in the OP.

I could escrow this for free minus TX fees (wallet fees, not exchange fees).
Or you can find another escrow here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0
Just see who's online.

I seriously doubt somebody can be so dumb to keep giving loans to obvious scammers. I strongly believe ManyProofs is an alt of the 'borrowers'. He must be either trying to get some trust for the future, or is just bored and wants to read other people's posts while he sends 'monies' to himself.

Regardless of he being that dumb or an alt of the borrowers he's really making this section a mess. I've had to leave negative trust to more than 10 20 accounts in less than 24h. I was giving ManyProofs the benefit of the doubt but he's really having a fishy behavior.

There will be only one winner this time. I will keep creating giveaways in the future and may increase the number of winners.
I'm not sure I understood the second part of your question. It's not necessary to come to this thread or post here, only on Twitter. The list from the previous giveaway isn't valid for this new giveaway.

Second Giveaway
(The first one was completed)

I'm giving away a prize of 15,000 bits (0.015 BTC).

To participate:

• You need a Twitter account with at least 50 followers.
• Follow @BitsPerDollar
• Re-tweet this: https://twitter.com/BitsPerDollar/status/626772473623646208
• You can participate until 20th of August 2015.

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I've sent 2.5 BTC to the address 1CT8J2cV1qyMc6oUUb3X5A5fo4yFa8YBZf as a loan to liteon. TXID: 75d51eb46baf336fe242e9bc71c8b7144bf639f3f4aa27b291ebe9ccecc36644

I confirm I'm holding the following domains as collateral: adbit.pw, autobuy.link, bet.pink, bitcoinads.xyz, bitcoinchat.xyz, bitcoinclub.xyz, bitcoindice.xyz, bitcoindomains.xyz, bitcoinhost.biz, bitcoinhost.xyz, bitcoinlinks.xyz, bitcoinmail.xyz, btmusic.org, bitcoins.pink, bitcoinstore.link, bitcoinstore.xyz, btcdating.com, btcdice.xyz, btchost.pw, btchost.xyz, btcpoker.link, btcpoker.xyz, btcstore.xyz, btcvpn.xyz, btcwallet.link, btcwings.com, buyhits.xyz, coin.hiphop, coinescrow.biz, coinfaucet.org, coinhost.co, coinhost.org, crackers.pw, cryptobit.xyz, cryptoblog.xyz, cryptochain.link, cryptomarket.xyz, cryptostore.xyz, cryptolinks.xyz, cybersex.link, deuce.ninja, digitalservers.xyz, digitalshop.xyz, epixel.biz, exploits.link, fabgirl.net, fastbit.link, findgirls.org, freefonts.link, gateone.biz, giga.website, gsi.pw, hacking.xyz, hostingbabe.com, infodesk.pw, infotop.in, ipsf.biz, microbill.org, microcasino.org, mosthated.org, namecoin.link, nmc.link, neas.biz, netcams.co, primecrypto.link, primehost.xyz, primepoker.xyz, steams.xyz, whoisguard.xyz, worldsat.tv

Please pay back 0.35 BTC by 2015-08-25. After that I will push back the following domains: mosthated.org, findgirls.org, coinhost.org, microbill.org, btcwings.com, bet.pink, btcdating.com, microcasino.org.
Please pay back 2.3625 BTC more by 2015-09-12. After that I will push the remaining domains to your account.

If you fail to make a payment I will own the corresponding domains. If you default the first payment and the 8 domains expire while I hold them I won't be responsible for them and you will still own the full 2.6625 BTC.

My address is 13CpZXtPqSEVZQH2UjsbsyiJgUMw2PiAfT. Any TX sent there will be considered as a payment made by liteon to me.

Thanks,
EcuaMobi
2015-07-29

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I confirm I received the domains. I just noticed 8 domains expire before 12 September. Can you repay BTC0.35 by 25 August and I'll push those 8 domains back by then?
If so please post your address to send the loan. Otherwise I'd like to push back those 8 domains and get others in replace.

As agreed I will provide this loan with the following domains as collateral:

Conditions are:

• Amount: BTC2.5
• Interest: 6.5% = BTC0.1625
• Period: 45 days

BTC2.6625 repayment by 12 September 2015.

Please push the domains to my Namecheap account 'ecuamobi', no authorization code is required. Or contact a very trusted escrow to hold the domains, you'd pay his fee.