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1041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 29, 2017, 04:49:34 PM
Just read this in whitepaper.

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Although    the   project   has   a    formal   cap   of   100   000   ETH,   a   hidden   cap   will   be   set   up.   It   is   an   incentive    for   
subscribers   to   not   wait   until   the   end   of   the   ICO   to   contribute.   Indeed,   in   the   case   of   this   hidden   cap   being   
reached    early,    the    ICO    would    automatically    end    prematurely.    It    shall    ensure    that    the    NPX    token   
demand   will   be   high,   even   after   the successful   completion   of   the   ICO.

So, formally hard cap less than 100,000 eth? And can finish in any time? But anyway, this would not more that 100,000 eth, right? Huh


No, the hard cap is 100,000 ETH, that means if 100,000ETH got invested, the sale will close definitly. The hidden cap means there is an cap of eth, for example 50,000eth, when this will be reached there will be a hidden time limit activated, after that time, for example 24h, the sale close too, even if 100,000 eth will not be reached. At least that's how I know hidden caps.
Thats big amount of money O.o solid marketcap if its get filled


A good Ico, I will be happy if everything ends as intended.
When will the project be finished?

By finished you mean working product or what? Because i think that will be under constant development, but the roadmap is on their website in https://www.napoleonx.ai

Anyone know when they intend to show a demo? so we get an idea of what we all praising over here.
I suggest joining the telegram and visit the webpage more offten for these announcements


I checked their website and there is no info thus the post on the thread. I don't use telegram cos i still have a flip phone. Never saw the need or secured enough with a smartphone. Anyway, there have been several other announcement on the thread, so it befitting that it will be announced here too.
1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 29, 2017, 04:41:35 PM
Every shop that handles payments in btc can easely add UTRUST, I mean why not? If you already accept payments in crypto, meaning you're somehow a crypto enthusiast, better integrate it with a platform offering buyer protection

The platform has to prove it's usefulness, reliability, security etc before any biz will feel comfortable routing their customer's payment info thru the platform. Earning such trust in the crypto space is not an easy feat. That's why i say it will take yrs of proving it's viability before we can start discussing partnerships.
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 29, 2017, 04:34:36 PM

A good Ico, I will be happy if everything ends as intended.
When will the project be finished?

By finished you mean working product or what? Because i think that will be under constant development, but the roadmap is on their website in https://www.napoleonx.ai

Anyone know when they intend to show a demo? so we get an idea of what we all praising over here.
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 29, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
They have made it known that they intend to invest in spain and way down the line expand to other countries. So the speculation on the market they intend to pursue has already been answered.
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 29, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
everything is possible if the project will be successful in the long term maybe the banks will be use it...

Then the banks have to migrate their databases to the blockchain. Unfortunately the on-chain transaction bandwidth is too low for the number of daily transactions. You could skirt around the issue using off-chain transactions but that would kind of defeat the purpose.

Maybe that is where Ethereum Plasma comes in "to design a system whereby computation can occur off-blockchain but ultimately enforceable on-chain".



Banks might not utilize paypie for all service earlier on but they can immediately benefit from some of it's services esp when dealing with credit assessment.
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 29, 2017, 04:19:06 PM
Please take a look on page 12 of the whitepaper, you will see they will search for existing properties, arrange a mortgage (as in taking a bank loan backed by the property), then purchase it.



In their blog they also mentioned real estate developers among potential partners. Maybe if you consider reserving a house that has yet to be build as building, but that does not mean REAL is going to lay the bricks themselves.

https://medium.com/@real_token/our-real-estate-potential-partners-70c2a0f8085b

REAL will definitely build something though: "Building the Real Estate Asset Ledger".

That is understandable, the project does not have the cash nor the time to start building hotels or any building from scratch, buying an existing one is the best option at the beginning, to obtain revenue, perhaps in 2 to 3 years we will have the option to build our own hotel, resort, skyscraper, etc. we need to be bigger to do so.

I have heard several ppl say that you always get a better deal buying a used car than purchasing new. As a young company, it's ideal not to muddle thru the paperwork/cost involved in a building project.
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 29, 2017, 04:07:18 PM
Anyone want to speculate what their partnership announcements will be? Amazon would be cool.
Who knows? Maybe ebay, alibaba, olx and the rest too will partner with  Utrust. It is not just the buyer/seller protection they provide they also give performance-based ratings to sellers which is good for both sellers buyers. The moment buyers see the 5star ratings of sellers, it means trust for the sellers which good for them too. 

Alibaba would be a great partner for UTRUST considering it is a very big company that can even surpass Amazon and has a wide user base in Asia.

Oh man, i forgot Alibaba completely, even though i just ordered something from there. That indeed would be a golden partnership for Utrust. But isn't that a Chinese company? China and cryptocurrencies don't mix well these days.

Well it is still a lot of time till the first platform test API for merchants in Q2 2018. I am sure they are already in contact with different online stores to implement their payment option. The bigger these partners will be, the more success UTrust will have. The examples you mentioned with ebay. Amazon or Alibaba would be huge but I think the system has to be approved by some smaller shops at first before it get's adopted by these big companies.
Start with some small shop still better than work with large company like Amazon and Alibaba.
For sure buddy. In every beginning one has to start with small small trial and error experiments until they come up with something bigger and take the lead.

Ok guys lets come back down to reality. No one is partnering with alibaba, ebay, disney or whomever else you can pull of the air yet. the main thing is producing a working platform and after several yrs of proving their viability. maybe  one of the aforementioned co might mention their name in one of the corporate meetings
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 29, 2017, 04:02:22 PM
Have they mentioned when it will be possibly to test the proposed bots.
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 29, 2017, 04:00:24 PM
Sorry guys, but where can I see the progress of ICO? I don't find it on the official website of the project.

It's actually the last day you can buy in. On the website you can see the total number of tokens sold at the current conversion rate it's more than 10million $.

Thank you!
Which type of buldings they gonna buy?
Read this article, it describes all the partners and real estate in which you can invest your money:
https://medium.com/@real_token/our-real-estate-potential-partners-70c2a0f8085b

It says that the sphere of their interests is the construction of hotels, and student residencies. Although I thought that they would be engaged in building houses. And maybe this is also included in their plans. The main thing is that there are partners already, some money is already collected.

Real don't intend on building houses, rather they will purchase built houses and even if they choose to purchase hotel/student housings, that would be ideal cos a hotel in the right area will always have guest and student housing is a constant heavy earner
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 29, 2017, 03:54:50 PM
in case it will be used by banks and insurance companies this is going to be huge!!  Shocked



Sooner or later financial institutions such as banks and insurance companies will embrace PAYPIE's platform as its risk score is accurate and fraud proof.

I do not think banks and insurance companies will use this poject in their work

It already depends on how paypie will prove itself. It is possible that they will use it in a few years.

everything is possible if the project will be successful in the long term maybe the banks will be use it...

Banks are the ones this project is mostly aiming for, they do investments with the money their clients give them to store, so they will definitely need a scored risk management tool for their ledger, and an accounting platform.

Exactly. Banks earn most of their money of interest on loans. So any service that provides a transparent picture of a client's liquidity/liabities will be valued.
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟 ⚡🚀ANN: GATCOIN Blockchain Rewards Program for Mainstream Retailers🌟 ⚡🚀 on: September 29, 2017, 03:09:46 PM
Can I ask a question? If I get Gatcoin ( or reward) from restaurant A. can I use it at restaurant B (use Gatcoin platform too)

Yes of course we like answering questions as it helps us know what the crypto community is thinking!

Restaurant A would issue its own branded token. You would need to take this token to the GAT Exchange and sell it there for GAT Coin. You could then use this GAT Coin to buy tokens for Restaurant B (or hold them, or trade them on an external exchange)

You can see this process mapped out in our overview https://www.gatcoin.io/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/170928v2-GATCOIN-System-Overview.pdf

So pretty much the same way i can take current tokens/coins to any participating exchange, sell it and take the money to buy a different token/coin?
Why don't you just have an ICO for a new exchange? and pursue that angle.
 The whole we part of a long list of companies that issues tokens but didn't really tweak any codes related to the aforementioned service has already been used up and won't be viable for long.
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟 ⚡🚀ANN: GATCOIN Blockchain Rewards Program for Mainstream Retailers🌟 ⚡🚀 on: September 29, 2017, 02:51:17 PM
No one has yet given me a concise answer on why everyone is elated about an ico for a platform that just releases token. Esp when companies can release their own token. The aforementioned platform is not built from a new code or represent an improvement on an existing code. Its just a middle man token provider.
 Everyone here is shilling loyalty points and airdrop on the platform, off the top of my head i say embermine provides the same thing lest the exchange. Embermine has several
airdrops occurring in the next few weeks and it's still struggling to gain a foot hold in the market b/c  the service been offered which be obsolete in a short time.
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟 ⚡🚀ANN: GATCOIN Blockchain Rewards Program for Mainstream Retailers🌟 ⚡🚀 on: September 28, 2017, 09:35:28 PM
Again, most companies might not be blockchain savvy yet but a quick Google search on creating ERC token will show the steps involved and it's not that complicated. It takes less than 30 mins to create one. I have created several tokens and am not that technically inclined, so it would makes sense that companies actually interested in blockchain will easily  learn the process.
 So, my question is how does GATCOIN plan to stay viable 6mths - 1yr down the line as most individuals find out that solidarity is not rocket science and most of this scripts can be easily created or emulated. Why will companies subcontract GATCOIN ( a company using ERC 20) to create a token for them when it takes less than 30 mins to create your own ERC 20 token.


Well Gatcoin also offers a mobile token wallet for all their merchant tokens and the possibility to trade these merchant tokens on their own exchange for an other one. If you issue your own token, trading isn't that easy (except maybe Etherdelta).

So basically Gatcoin is an exchange utilizing erc token to get of the floor and all they basically offer is a wallet and token. Also, don't sell me the line about ED been the only easy exchange to get into. We all receive several free airdrops that is trading on several platforms. So why will a well known company decide to pay to commission Gatcoin to release their token. Again ERC 20 tokens are very easy to create. Let say 1 or 2 companies bite cos solidarity comprehension is at an infantile stage. anyway, how do they keep Gatcoin viable a yr down the line, when this things cease been an issue.

The way i see it is like you said, its easy to make a ERC20 token, you made several but what value does a token have if its not backed by some platform or a project behind it.
If a company creates a token just because they can, it wont benefit them nor the clients, but if you integrate it in a platform like Gatcoin, you get a lot of different options to utilize it.


having your token of Gat's platform doesn't give you automatic liquidity, your coin has to go thru the same process as any other coin. it takes a decision to buy from investors to gsin liquidity. so there no difference btw me creating an erc 20 and lisiting it on nova exhange and me having the same token under gat's platform. only difference is gat's token is not an erc 20 token, anf it's listed on there exchange, but you pay them for it. So basically, it's no different than wallet builder incorporating an exchange into their platform and deciding to have an ico, cos its basically the same thing

You are right that any company can just create their own ERC-20 token. The downside of that is you get an evergrowing list of tokens that you have to remember why and what you even have them for. If this project here, has strong enough marketing and builds the right partnerships, they can attract many big names companies to adopt their token as the rewards token of choice. This brings a form of limited centralization into the picture but is that always a bad thing? The word centralized has almost become a taboo because of the decentralization movement. Sometimes, in regards to organization, decentralization of every business sector and industry out there could get a little bit discombobulated. For example, I love checking all my emails from all my accounts on one list and on one screen. I could care less if I have to give Google access to all that data, it saves me hours of valuable time every day.

 No company is going to want to form a partnership and make a lifetime payment, for a service they can create themselves in less than 30mins. That's just a fact. No matter how much you guys might sugarcoat it, the idea is nothing new to the space.  There are several companies already offering this services and every one of them is doing poorly in the market.
 
 If a company wants a coin, they could easily create a coin on wallet builder or on several other services that offer this and have it listed in an exchange in a few days. Companies can also create a wave token and have it on wave dex immediately or erc 20 and have it on delta immediately. With implementation of the new protocol, the transaction will really speed up. so even if Gatcoin gain better traction than the troves of companies offering similar ideas, the idea will be obsolete in a few months to a yr. Solidarity might be in infancy but if I a non technical observer can create erc token. am quite sure a company with interest in blockchain can easily figure it out.
 So I know it's on a lot of ppl interest to shill without reserve but I won't let you lie to unaware investor and make it seem like this is a groundbreaking idea, cos you are basically leading them to a trap, that I think, will end up costing long term holders dearly. If someone wants to take chance and  pnd the ico, that I can understand but this idea is nothing new, it's already been offered by a lot of companies, and is almost obsolete cos the mass is becoming better aware of the blockchain tech.

 This is akin to buying a new telly, then investing into a robotic model whose  job is to ONLY control the remote, cos you haven't figured out how to do it yourself. How long do you anticipate a need for that robot?
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 28, 2017, 05:37:49 PM
Am not surprised that Anthony joined PAYPIE. I been saying that PAYPIE is one of the few ICO am comfortable with as of late. I will still suggest that an investor do a diligent research before investing but personally i think this is one of the most legit ICO that's currently out there.
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟 ⚡🚀ANN: GATCOIN Blockchain Rewards Program for Mainstream Retailers🌟 ⚡🚀 on: September 28, 2017, 05:18:39 PM
Again, most companies might not be blockchain savvy yet but a quick Google search on creating ERC token will show the steps involved and it's not that complicated. It takes less than 30 mins to create one. I have created several tokens and am not that technically inclined, so it would makes sense that companies actually interested in blockchain will easily  learn the process.
 So, my question is how does GATCOIN plan to stay viable 6mths - 1yr down the line as most individuals find out that solidarity is not rocket science and most of this scripts can be easily created or emulated. Why will companies subcontract GATCOIN ( a company using ERC 20) to create a token for them when it takes less than 30 mins to create your own ERC 20 token.


Well Gatcoin also offers a mobile token wallet for all their merchant tokens and the possibility to trade these merchant tokens on their own exchange for an other one. If you issue your own token, trading isn't that easy (except maybe Etherdelta).

So basically Gatcoin is an exchange utilizing erc token to get of the floor and all they basically offer is a wallet and token. Also, don't sell me the line about ED been the only easy exchange to get into. We all receive several free airdrops that is trading on several platforms. So why will a well known company decide to pay to commission Gatcoin to release their token. Again ERC 20 tokens are very easy to create. Let say 1 or 2 companies bite cos solidarity comprehension is at an infantile stage. anyway, how do they keep Gatcoin viable a yr down the line, when this things cease been an issue.

The way i see it is like you said, its easy to make a ERC20 token, you made several but what value does a token have if its not backed by some platform or a project behind it.
If a company creates a token just because they can, it wont benefit them nor the clients, but if you integrate it in a platform like Gatcoin, you get a lot of different options to utilize it.


having your token of Gat's platform doesn't give you automatic liquidity, your coin has to go thru the same process as any other coin. it takes a decision to buy from investors to gsin liquidity. so there no difference btw me creating an erc 20 and lisiting it on nova exhange and me having the same token under gat's platform. only difference is gat's token is not an erc 20 token, anf it's listed on there exchange, but you pay them for it. So basically, it's no different than wallet builder incorporating an exchange into their platform and deciding to have an ico, cos its basically the same thing
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟 ⚡🚀ANN: GATCOIN Blockchain Rewards Program for Mainstream Retailers🌟 ⚡🚀 on: September 28, 2017, 05:13:10 PM
So this is an ERC 20 token that enables you to offer token? why do you need a middle man to offer a token, when most company can just offer their own ERC 20?

Probably companies won't want to do a token. It's an unknown territory for companies who haven't been in the blockchain. So they sure would want to work with some program like Gatcoin.
Exactly, consider this for example - small brand of stores wants to have somekind of loyal program for custormers, so they need to issue their own card. With GAT there will issue their own tokens and you as a customer won't be need to carry your card to collect loyal points

Yes, right. And what's more (that's what I like in particular), you can trade among your several loyalty tokens, e.g. trade your tokens a drugstore chain for flight miles  Smiley

you just agreeing with each other without answering my question. Why would a store pay to utilize GATCOIN when they can provide the same service and save alot of money by creating their own erc-220  token. Also, there is already several companies offering an identical service.
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟 ⚡🚀ANN: GATCOIN Blockchain Rewards Program for Mainstream Retailers🌟 ⚡🚀 on: September 28, 2017, 01:16:54 PM
nice idea . dont see any idea like this before. reward system is good choice for many restaurant to keep their customer loyal

of the top of my mind. i say embermine and there are several more if i really think about it.
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟 ⚡🚀ANN: GATCOIN Blockchain Rewards Program for Mainstream Retailers🌟 ⚡🚀 on: September 28, 2017, 12:48:18 PM
Again, most companies might not be blockchain savvy yet but a quick Google search on creating ERC token will show the steps involved and it's not that complicated. It takes less than 30 mins to create one. I have created several tokens and am not that technically inclined, so it would makes sense that companies actually interested in blockchain will easily  learn the process.
 So, my question is how does GATCOIN plan to stay viable 6mths - 1yr down the line as most individuals find out that solidarity is not rocket science and most of this scripts can be easily created or emulated. Why will companies subcontract GATCOIN ( a company using ERC 20) to create a token for them when it takes less than 30 mins to create your own ERC 20 token.


Well Gatcoin also offers a mobile token wallet for all their merchant tokens and the possibility to trade these merchant tokens on their own exchange for an other one. If you issue your own token, trading isn't that easy (except maybe Etherdelta).

So basically Gatcoin is an exchange utilizing erc token to get of the floor and all they basically offer is a wallet and token. Also, don't sell me the line about ED been the only easy exchange to get into. We all receive several free airdrops that is trading on several platforms. So why will a well known company decide to pay to commission Gatcoin to release their token. Again ERC 20 tokens are very easy to create. Let say 1 or 2 companies bite cos solidarity comprehension is at an infantile stage. anyway, how do they keep Gatcoin viable a yr down the line, when this things cease been an issue.
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟 ⚡🚀ANN: GATCOIN Blockchain Rewards Program for Mainstream Retailers🌟 ⚡🚀 on: September 28, 2017, 12:15:39 PM
Again, most companies might not be blockchain savvy yet but a quick Google search on creating ERC token will show the steps involved and it's not that complicated. It takes less than 30 mins to create one. I have created several tokens and am not that technically inclined, so it would makes sense that companies actually interested in blockchain will easily  learn the process.
 So, my question is how does GATCOIN plan to stay viable 6mths - 1yr down the line as most individuals find out that solidarity is not rocket science and most of this scripts can be easily created or emulated. Why will companies subcontract GATCOIN ( a company using ERC 20) to create a token for them when it takes less than 30 mins to create your own ERC 20 token.
1060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 28, 2017, 12:05:03 PM
Is there a minimum amount for the Greenlist sale? In the form something like 10 is in by default but you can overwrite it with any different amount.

Thank you in advance

10 ETH is the minimum amount to get bonus during the pre sale. For sure we can change it to our desired numbers. One thing for sure, the more money we invest, the more bonuses we will get.
In my opinion it's a little too high but they are aiming in bigger investors. Anyway only 11 days to pre-sale, maybe they will introduce some new bonuses

Hence, developers consider a minimum limit of 10 ETH reasonable. Why do they need small investors, and this is the right decision on their part.

Well 10 ETH is not too big in my opinion. Everybody who was there in marsh made way more with trading.

Actually can a dev or community manager confirm once and for all, if the minimum for pre sale is 10 or 0.01ETH. It states 10 on the website and ann which seems more plausible, but there has been several post on the thread about it been 0.01. Though 0.01 seems unlikely, it will be the ideal amount to promote an even distribution. though it will also encourage ico pnd.
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