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10481  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Deeper price of bitcoin, how much do you expect it? on: January 24, 2018, 11:47:17 PM
Bitcoin price now was continuously declining, do you think that their value touches the $1,000 value again?

How much do you think bitcoin fall down?

Do you think this coin will recover again or not?

I think if in a week, bitcoin touches the price of 8000 dollars, it will likely return to 1000 dollars, but if it's the opposite then bitcoin will touch 50.000 dollars by mid month, that's just my speculation about bitcoin ...

Do you mean mid year? We are already in the last week of January so I doubt that it can get to $50K. But I would have agree that sometime around June-July we may see the price breaking $50K barrier.

It won't go below $10K or even $1K, because there's a lot of support on that price. The price is already moving to $11K-$11.3, and I'm expecting that by the end of the week we can get to $12K again. CBoE bitcoin future contracts are going to expire, and then after that, more investors who are just waiting will get into the market pushing the price.
10482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: January 24, 2018, 11:28:42 PM
I have some kind of a feeling that Cilic might win this years Australian Open.
He's playing pretty well.
Best year of his career for sure!

Trophy is still up for grabs but I must say that Roger Federer is the favorite and its really hard to beat him right now. Although  Chung has been performing above expectations, he will face a wall against Roger.

Cilic is also showing exceptionally well in the tournament. I bet he can beat Edmund, but then again a final match up with Roger is a different story. I feel that Roger is not even exerting much effort on his win and have a lot of gas in his tank if push comes to shove.
10483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: January 24, 2018, 11:10:42 PM
Against the San Antonio Spurs, Lebron James has the opportunity to hit the 30,000 career regular season points because he is currently seven points shy of making that mark, he would have been able to do it in their last game against the OKC Thunder but they were no match for them at all,
The King Lebron James joins the club of 30K points with Michael "Air" Jordan the GOAT. But the downside for Lebron in this game is that they are on the losing side. It should been happier if they won the game.

That is just a one single game. The milestone of 30,000 points is hard to achieved.

Those haters still criticized LeBron James that he only able to achieved that because he entered the league on young age, fuck that reason? It's really James fault if he can shoot most of the time? Is it James fault that he can maintained his healthy status every season? It's useless if a player enters the league even at 15 years old if he can't do offensive properly.

Well haters gonna hate. And that's one feat that is very hard to accomplished. Though we should also take note that there's still one active player who is also a member of the 30K club (Dirk Nowitzki).

I read that they are trying to trade Shumpert to Sacramento. There's a lot of things going wrong with them right now. So I guess a good trade is really needed to bring fresh air to the team.
10484  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto faster and cheaper?? on: January 21, 2018, 08:52:27 PM
I just made a purchase using Bitcoin today.
The receiver has yet to receive the Bitcoin sent over an hour ago.
And...I was charged $17 in fees (using Coinbase) to complete this transaction!!
How is this digital currency the "thing of the future"??
If I had paid with credit card, my purchase would have been final in seconds with no additional fees.
What is the real advantage of this voodoo currency??

With your rank, you obviously know that we have this situation, high tx frees and slow confirmation. That's why I was quite surprise you asking that basic questions, unless you have some intentions (bad).

It's the thing of the future because we haven't seen this kind of technology, well sort of. And there has been solutions being laid out, but being tested on mainnet and that is Lightning Network. Also why the hell are you using coinbase as wallet?

No this voodoo currency has no advantage. Much better if you stay away with it because you really don't know what it's purpose anyways, go back to your Visa card and see how much they are going to charge you if you don't settle your bills on time.
10485  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is 2018 the downfall of bitcoin? on: January 21, 2018, 07:37:50 PM
*Newbie Here!* Because of fluctuations in the value of bitcoin, is 2018 going to be the biggest downfall of bitcoin? What do you think?

Price of bitcoin January 2017: $750-$1K
Price of bitcoin January 2018: $13K-$14K
Price of bitcoin January 2019: Huh??

Historical data shows that year-to-year bitcoin grows exponentially. So I don't know what you think, but for, I really have no doubt that bitcoin will still go up up to the end of the year. And sorry to burst the bubble but it won't just go down.

Problem lies in stability of the Bitcoin. As because of high fluctuation it is difficult for a party to accept bitcoin. I believe it is the major factor affecting bitcoin reputation.

Price volatility is part of the ecosystem, so everyone who's on board should already know that they have to accept it otherwise, they should get out of it. They have no reason to complain about it.
10486  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC fall again within a few days? on: January 21, 2018, 01:23:03 PM
I still believe BTC will rise again in the coming days ahead because it has already had its fall so next is time for BTC to grow very high. So it will be very good to get some BTC now and wait for a rise in the next days.

Of course it can rise in the coming days. However, we need to hurdle this test again, it's really fluctuating as we speak. And its not that 'stable' still. I want to see and test $13.5 and see how will it hold. If we can hold it for a few days and keep seeing a gradual increase, then we are in the recovery phase by then. If not, then bears and bulls are fighting as to who will be on top. Let's see how it pans out in the next coming days. I hope that we can see the market going green once more and the the price started to pick up
10487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Satoshi Nakamoto will reveal himself one day ? on: January 21, 2018, 12:59:38 PM
I am looking forward to the day that the great Satoshi Nakamoto will reveal who he is, If he is a person or who they are if they are a group.Are you looking forward to knowing Satoshi  Nakamoto ? Do you think he will reveal him self?

Why would you think the Satoshi would just surface? And NO, I'm not looking forward to knowing Satoshi. He may have been 6 feet under the ground by now, so the likelihood of him appearing on the next centuries is 0.

He has already given us his creation, and we should appreciate what has he done and be thankful. Satoshi disappeared in thin air for personal reasons. And we should respect it like that, and just enjoy what he has given to us.
10488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blood-Bath Over? on: January 21, 2018, 07:44:11 AM
I thought it was over but looking at today BTC/ETH charts and total market cap, I worry again  Undecided

Yup, I also be worried if I were you because the market is bleeding once more. We have just recovered from it 48 hours ago but it seems that marketcap is down to 582M and around 40M-50M has been wipe out in just a matter of hours.

But then again, we have seen it already, and don't panic sell but instead get it while its in red. The bears is back and somewhat push the bull again. But this is just temporary and I'm sure that we can go over with this correction like we did previously.
10489  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is momentum from bears is weakneing now as BTC breaks above 12K? on: January 21, 2018, 07:25:49 AM
The bears are being pushed back and the bulls are taking over again. The bears could not force the price any lower than they did and now they cannot keep the price down. $13k is achieved and soon it will be $15k or more.

I guess we spoke to soon as the bears are clawing back and bulls being pushed away. $13K was achieved already however, it looks like are taking significant dips as the price is going below $12K now. But just like a lot of you guys, I'm still optimistic that this isn't a bull trap as other's have suggested.

There seems to be no momentum from either side right now which shows signs of uncertainty. Therefore I do agree that the bears' momentum has stopped at these levels, but the bulls are also not so determined to buy.

not necessarily uncertainty or sideways since there has not been any kind of drop ever since the recovery from the drop discount.
this can very well be an accumulation phase for getting ready to start the next rally upwards. and with the volume still pretty high i'd say it makes sense. if we see a testing dump we can take that as the indication of the beginning of the rally.

I guess this is just a dumping dump? Really hope that it is so that we can rally and push the price to like $15K which I feel comfortable with.
10490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Breaking: Bitcoin trading banned in India ?????? on: January 21, 2018, 06:05:34 AM
It looks like a fake news intended to create a new dump where speculators will be able to buy cheap coins. I guess that news nowadays collude with speculators.

Indication of things to come....

It could be. Looks like the market it turning red again. India is still neutral as far as I'm concern. So its not banning crypto trading as of the moment. This is another FUD to create panic amongst us.

It could be some of the accounts are become a lobby of illegal money that's why banks shut down those accounts.  In other side  it will greatly affect the economy of cryptocurrency. Perhaps we can expect another dip of coin market. India is one of the biggest traders banning them will cause avalanche in the market. We can expect worse to it. Hoping it just like in South Korea news which turn out it was fake news.

Short term, yes, it could really affect the market because of government closing its door to bitcoin or crypto in general. However, it didn't mean that its the end of bitcoin. Bitcoin has a proven record to recover from a market corrections. This is not something new that we haven't overcome. Another test, but long run bitcoin price will go up again.
10491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 5k to invest in crypto . on: January 21, 2018, 05:46:45 AM
hey guys , i have 5k to invest , i dont know which coins or token should i invest in , i think i missed the party , because most of the coins price is too high right now , what do you guys think , iam planing to hold untill mid 2019 , i want to get profit like 500k , i know its big number , but i heard alotta ppl did that b4 , thank you .

Bitcoin is really the best coin to invest because it offers opportunity to gain financial profit if you really hold on it for long  term. And the perfect time to buy is during the dips, like we witnessed a few days ago. But I just checked the current price, looks like it's going down so it's not late to get it.

Altcoins, like, ETH, Ripple, LTC as well. They have been gaining since last month. For me they are stable as far as putting your money on them. Again, good for long in my view. Goodluck.
10492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why major correction happen in bitcoin on: January 20, 2018, 09:36:37 PM
cryptocurrencies will be a good thing. After the reset, bitcoin and other quality cryptocurrencies will jump even higher. what do think any specefic reason plz mention .

You will find that stock market as well goes to a major price correction and not just in crypto currency. The only reason I  can think of is the false news that pollutes the ecosystem. This kind of negativity affects investors, influencing them to sell and then others followed, causing a domino effect, crashing the market.

But it has good effect as well, because we have been given a good opportunity to get in while the price is at a discount. That's why you will hear a lot of people saying "healthy price correction".
10493  Economy / Marketplace / Re: China calling for a wider ban on Crypto currency trading ? on: January 20, 2018, 08:52:44 PM
so china really want to hold and keep it up?, then after this what? they really believe they are a huge factor or maybe their nation alone can tear crypto apart. which is proven wrong last year. I say goodluck to you china may the dip you are wanting cause you a lot of money but the blockchain business will continue reigning this is it's year no one can stop it.

They are just creating a lot of panic by releasing statement that is double standards. And then those rumor mongers will just capitalized on it by creating more FUD's and false news, creating fear among investors. That's one thing I don't like about China, as if they really want to stay relevant in the crypto currency market. But at behind they really take advantage of the situation by buying it when the price is cheap, without others knowing.
10494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will soon not be the main currency! on: January 20, 2018, 08:19:41 PM
I have been interested in cryptocurrency for a year already and watching the next picture. The percentage of bitcoin dominance is decreasing in percent (about 35%). A month ago, there were 50 - 55%. What do you think about this? It seems to me that altсoins are more attractive for investment and more technological, so they are increasingly investing in altcoins.

But it doesn't mean a thing, well the way I see it. Maybe other investors are just looking for other ways like going to altcoins. But when bitcoin rally, everyone joins the train again. It is what it is. Everyone jumps where the money is. Do you think investors are shifting to altcoin because they have good technological advancement? I doubt. Sad to say but the truth is, everyone here is really for the money. Sad but true. Sad
10495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 220: Miocic vs Ngannou Info and Prediction Thread on: January 20, 2018, 07:53:43 PM
I just saw the weigh ins are up on YT...  I haven't watched it myself but will do as soon as I'm done with this post.  Grin  I'm so excited, I think I'm gonna skip it to the final parts.  Lol.

Let's see the confidence level of Miocic and Ngannou during the stare down.

UFC 220:  Official Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbQLd9Kj2VI

And in other events, Ferguson and Khabib will be headlining 223 and co main event will be Namajunas vs JJ rematch.  Should be awesome.

It is just me or has anyone notice it, But DC looks old as hell. LOL. But he looks relax though. He has big hurdles to face and its not gonna be easy fight unless he takes down Oezdemir.

Miocic looks tense at the stare down, I'm not saying that he is intimidated by Francis, but I have to agree, his hands are full. Francis has really fast hands, not only that he can punch hard. Don't know what his strategy though, really hard to call this fight.
10496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you still continue? on: January 20, 2018, 06:08:41 PM
What will you do if after losing several times in gambling, you are left with only small amount of money and that money will be for your fuel or for transportation, will you still continue with the little you are left with? What if you lose?

Here is one strategy that I every time I go to a landbased casino. I always put money at my back pocket for transportation. So it worst case scenario, I have money for my transpo going back home. I have been using that method for a long time and so far it works for me. LOL. I don't want to lose everything and talk a stroll going back home. You should try it dude.  Grin

Wow, really. That is a good solution, however that is not something that is good in the long run. Since you have in the back of your mind (yeah, like your back pocket), that you have money in your pocket. So if you do lose a lot of money, you might have the thought that "oh yeah, I still have money and maybe it could win some of my losses back so instead of riding a cab, I can ride a limo from my winnings". That kind of thoughts will never be blocked out.

I'm telling you mate, if really works for me. Because what I have left is really just enough to get a taxi cab to reach home. Because the only way to get in and out of the casino is through cab only. And the amount is just small that I wouldn't put on a slot machine.  Grin. And I didn't have that mindset that I still have "the money in my pocket" I might as well gamble on it. That money is really for my cab ride purposes only.



Another tip:

If you really wanted to go in, you can do it as long as you have money in your home. And when you lost everything, you can still get a cab, and just pay them once you got home. Problem solved. I also do that trick as well.  Grin Grin Grin
10497  Economy / Speculation / Re: The falling can't be real on: January 20, 2018, 05:41:46 PM
I have no reason but my intuition is saying the price go up very soon. I had 13.5 BTC so bought another 13.5 BTC 5 minutes ago. the falling is fake. this can't happen for bitcoin goes under 9000$. I got on
the bullish wave ever already. Join me people

Well it fell sub $10K during the panic selling, and I hope that you still holds your bitcoin still. Your intuition is right because bitcoin has rebounded, and its just a shade below $13K now. The crash has weed off the weak hands. And the strong hands always win.

I'm sure that when it recovered, you breath a sigh of relief just like most of us. And its really normal to see the price going down, its part of the market and sometimes its healthy because its another opportunity to get into it because the price is cheap.
10498  Economy / Marketplace / Re: China calling for a wider ban on Crypto currency trading ? on: January 19, 2018, 10:33:20 PM
And sadly, they aren't giving any official statement of what they are going to do. All they say is that bitcoin trading "could" be banned in China, which results in spreading FUDs only. But even if they do ban, it will affect the market shortly but will eventually recover in its price like the same thing that happened last September when the Chinese government banned all domestic exchanges.

It really looks like that they are really creating a lot of FUD so that they can say that bitcoin could disrupt their economy or the economy of other countries. Yeah, just like South Korea, they could impact the price short term, however with bitcoins proven record, it will recover from all of this scare and could even go further on its path. The September scenario is one such example. It went down 40%, but then rebounded. So short term it going to be hard to swallow, but eventually it will end up on our favor.
10499  Economy / Economics / Re: Do bitcoin millonaires deserve their wealth? on: January 19, 2018, 10:14:27 PM
Everyone deserves their hard earn wealth. Although most of them really became millionaires by holding, it doesn't make any difference at all. That's one good thing about bitcoin and crypto's, if you have the mindset to think long term profit. So can just simply hold on it and just waited it out for a year or two and then go will become instant millionaires.

They stay when bitcoin was in its infancy up until today when it gain prominence. Its a lot of mental toughness to really hold that long, but at the end of the rainbow, I'm sure that you will find the pot of gold.
10500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: January 18, 2018, 11:54:55 PM

LOL i guess losing Irving already decreased 1/2 power of Cavs even they got Thomas back.

Definitely wrong.

It has something to do with other Cavaliers players. Irving is a big factor but the way the other Cavaliers players are performing recently, I see nothing will changed. Look at those Cavaliers losses and see the missing link. It's not Irving but others Cavs players must adjust and not just all about LeBron LeBron LeBron. Compare it back to their winning streak, all Cavaliers players are performing well.


Well said Im agree. The momentum back when Cavaliers are getting lots of winning streak (I think 13 streak IIRC) are really impressive and all part of the rosters are having a nice stats on both offensive and defensive phase. Nice shooting % and average, nice assist % and average and everything.

By looking at their current losing streak, their offensive push is horrible. They have poor shooting stats and horrible field goals. Their defense is lacking too allowing an entry for more big points from their opponent.

So what is the missing here? I guess the players rotation and if possible, a bench revamp. No help and contribution on both offensive and defensive by the second squad. This is not all about chemistry after all as they already gained momentum on the first phase of this season.
I completely agree with you the problem of cavs is not losing the service of kyrie Irving but the problem has been defence all the way , but this is not all because in golden state game we saw a huge problem on shoots . They missed 12 shoots from 13 , in the 4 th quarter , you can not win if you miss that much in the end of the match specially against the warriors coz they punish you right away . So if only LeBron James manage to show up and the rest of the team didn't get the job done so you can understand the loss in the end .
I guess the Cavs right now just missed the services of Irving. Irving is the reason why the Cavs were the NBA champion last year.



Irving is part of the their integral team together with James and Love. And I'm sure that the Cavaliers is really hurting not just because Irving left, but their defense is one of the worst I have seen them. They should really put a strong man in the middle and get DJ and trade Thompson. Again, James can't do it by himself and he need his team to be consistent and back him up every game.

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