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10501  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: August 27, 2015, 09:23:29 PM
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a) There seems to be solid evidence that Saudi individuals motivated by religious or political fervor were involved.

b) There seems to be solid evidence that Americans who were in positions of 'responsibility' were involved.

c) There seems to be solid evidence that Zionists acting on nationalist motives were involved. And others etc


This has been your consistent theme.

But you have NEVER in this thread produced any evidence for (B) and (C).  

Not once.



The two most respected kinds of evidence are that which is "based" on the word of "authorities" and that which is "based" on the word of experts. A person normally assumes those two groups are the same but in this case it seems to not be so. At any rate there are numerous respected experts who would agree the visible evidence points to several groups.
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Although I will disagree with you about this, let us examine what your theory is.

1.  Is it about planes not really hitting towers, towers with pre planted explosives, etc?

2.  OR is it just about the people and motives?

I ask because in this entire thread I have not seen any arguments that were good regarding #1.

Regarding #2 there is the issue of the "irrefutable hypothesis" to be contended with.
10502  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: August 27, 2015, 05:28:31 PM
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a) There seems to be solid evidence that Saudi individuals motivated by religious or political fervor were involved.

b) There seems to be solid evidence that Americans who were in positions of 'responsibility' were involved.

c) There seems to be solid evidence that Zionists acting on nationalist motives were involved. And others etc


This has been your consistent theme.

But you have NEVER in this thread produced any evidence for (B) and (C). 

Not once.

10503  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 27, 2015, 05:18:06 PM




When the temperature of a political campaign turns up, one of the hardest traits for a candidate to preserve is patience.

At even the most marginal signs of turbulence, the pressure to react, recalibrate or reverse is enormous. It flows from a steady trickle of public polling, from a relentless swarm of media, from self-important donors ....


You mean Trump decided to vertically integrate and consolidate operations, and be his own donor?

Cut out the middlemen?
10504  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: August 27, 2015, 05:08:16 PM
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The fact that it bothers you so much about how I respond to Spendy makes me ask "Why?" If you were in agreement with him, I could understand it. But since you seem to be "awake" regarding the inside job, why would it bother you that someone is clarifying Spendy's illogical thinking? Are you trying to keep the 9/11 inside job idea from opening up a new drive for truth? Or are you trying to protect me from the powers that be, 'cause they see that I am clarifying the whole thing in ways they want to keep hidden?

That's all. Just curious about your reasons. I understand that this is a forum, and you might simply be playing to get some answers yourself.

Smiley
Ah, the real crazy talk starts.   

How about that.

No, we can't just talk about heat capacity of iron, heat of fusion, btus per gallon of kerosine.

None of those pesky facts matter.

What matters is "THE INSIDE JOB."
10505  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 27, 2015, 05:02:23 PM


Same hairstyle... Almost


I have yet to see who kelly and ramos are...

 Smiley



some of these buffoons?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQh0tt7aL7A
10506  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Microaggressions, "triggers," and the coddling of the american mind on: August 27, 2015, 02:45:51 PM

All of it is stupid and unfounded. People should start caring about real problems, like inequality in Saudi Arabia, instead of "PATRIARCHY! MIND RAPE! TRIGGER'D!"
It's your damn problem if something "triggers you"
It's debated if "microaggressions" even exist.
Here are two links wrapping up what I think.

Amazing Athiest "Triggers"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8BY5pO8hQk
Sargon Of Akkad "Microaggressions"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZhi9q0Vs4

NO, now calm down.  WE want you worrying about small, mindless gestures and comments.  WE don't want you worrying about the National Debt, the enemies that want to blow you up, Saudi, and many other things.  WE will keep you happy and content until WE need you for something.

By the way, are you employed?  WE have job openings on the Micro Agresssion Task Force for surveillance  camera operatives.  Unfortunately only the night shift, but it pays better than day.  The new growth area is projected to  be Retraining Known MicroAgressive Offenders, programs which are designed to allow deferred adjudication for MicroAgressive Offenders.  Assuming they complete the sensitivity program and stay clean of further Micro Aggressions, of course.  This is a ground floor opportunity, since the state and local agencies will contract with private contractors for this training. 

Let US know if you would like to be considered for an exclusive franchise in your area.

Wink
10507  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: August 27, 2015, 01:07:56 PM
From http://www.tax-freedom.com/ta06019.htm regarding Title 26 Section 7806, the construction section of Title 26, that is, the construction definition to be applied throughout:
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    Sec. 7806. Construction of Title

Sec. 7806. Construction of Title

Section 7806 - Construction of Title.

(a) Cross references. The cross references in this title to other provisions of law, where the word "see" is used, are made only for convenience, and shall be given no legal effect.

(b) Arrangement and classification. No inference, implication, or presumption of legislative construction shall be drawn or made by reason of the location or grouping of any particular section or provision or portion of this title, nor shall any table of contents, table of cross references, or similar outline, analysis, or descriptive matter relating to the contents of this title be given any legal effect. The preceding sentence also applies to the sidenotes and ancillary tables contained in the various prints of this Act, before its enactment into law.

Further from the website:
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As you can see the descriptive titles have no legal effect, and the separation of chapters has no real “separating” effect.  The tax imposed on individuals in Chapter 1, Section 1 is collected at the source by the Withholding Agent under the provisions of Section 7701(a)(16), and it is the tax collectors, those Withholding Agents who are made liable under Section 1461 for the payment of the income taxes that they have collected from the subject persons identified under the provisions of Chapter 3! The actual legal authorities established by the law are the limited authorities established by the actual wording of the code section paragraphs.  Nothing can be assumed (like liability for tax under Section 1). (That is why I'm showing you actual code sections here. Can your accountant do this with his claims? How about your lawyer? I have yet to meet anyone in the country, accountant, lawyer or judge, who can rebut this presentation, which is why you need to know about these irrefutable legal facts that I am showing you.)

Title 26, the IRS Code, isn't law by its own definition of how it is constructed.

Smiley
No.  Don't quote sources like this and advise people if you don't know tax law and practice.
10508  Other / Politics & Society / Wahhibi Fatwa Permits Sodomy For Jihad on: August 27, 2015, 01:00:53 PM
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Obviously this is totally disgusting, but here it is right from the Cleric.  This is how bad some of the stuff is that people are being told from supposedly "Islamic Clerics."

Fatwa: Homosexuality may be forbidden in islam, but muslim brothers may engage in sodomy with each other if the goal is to stretch the anus opening so bomb materials can be later inserted for martyrdom operations.
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e2f_1342196740#QCt6edXcYEHEAs0t.99

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/07/wahhabi-fatwa-permits-sodomy-to-widen-the-anus-as-a-means-to-jihad

****

This I find offensive.  Not the repeating of it, and not the use of the word "Islam."  But the actual advocacy of murder of innocent people in the name of a religion, by whatever means.
10509  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 27, 2015, 12:40:02 PM
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Jeb Bush says that Univision anchor Jorge Ramos, who was escorted out of a press conference held by Donald Trump on Tuesday night, should have been “treated with a little more respect.”
....


Trump should be treated with a little more respect.
10510  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shooting Faked? Video on: August 27, 2015, 12:25:48 PM
So, all of these people were in on it and now 3 people have to change their identities and move far away to perpetuate the hoax.

Or...one guy shot 3 people, one of which survived, then shot himself.

As for the lack of movie/TV/video game blood splatter, it appears that he used a small caliber weapon. The longer video records 14 shots after that short video. Even when he tried to shoot himself in the head he survived long enough to be taken to the hospital. Obviously something like a 9mm that does not leave a huge exit wound and likely does not even go all the way through the body.
This is not accurate.

You would have to get to .22 to expect those characteristics.

Projectile velocity and shape is more important than caliber. 9mm can be had anywhere from 800 fps to 1300+ fps, and full jacketed vs hollow point, etc.
10511  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Microaggressions, "triggers," and the coddling of the american mind on: August 27, 2015, 12:21:34 PM
That was a great article. Used to grab The Economist first but have enjoyed The Atlantic a lot more lately.
Like they mention in the article the social media kids that always had it around are just now graduating and entering the workforce. Will they dictate or submit when challenged will be the most pressing issue.

Now, it's not quite microaggressions which are the problem.  It's the ability to define and call out the improper behavior of Others.  WE shall do that.  YOU shall listen carefully, and search your soul carefully for how you have erred.  WE shall look at your speech and also your non-speech under a microscope, and you know that we will.  WE will find every flaw in you and help you in your striving to be Good.

One day, YOU could be one of the WE, if you work hard and agree to everything.



10512  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 27, 2015, 12:16:08 PM


You should realize that your belief in this is yours.  You share it with others of similar belief.

People not of your faith - for whatever reasons - will feel differently, and quite possibly diametrically opposed.
10513  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 27, 2015, 01:33:07 AM
The religion by itself is quite aggressive because it was born where today we have Sadi Arabia. It was poor and overpopulated(it was a desert just like now, but without the oil factor). It shouldn´t wonder why we have what we have.
I agree with you but do not think the reasons (bolded) you provided explain the aggression.  Many religions attempt to expand their believer base; for example Catholicism encourages large families.  As does Islam.  This alone in 50 years has a tremendous impact.

Note this is more a "take over more land" strategy than anything having anything to do with God Stuff, but in a competition between cultures and religious trends, it would take equal emphasis on large families just to stay even with your outside agressor.
10514  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Microaggressions, "triggers," and the coddling of the american mind on: August 27, 2015, 01:27:27 AM
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

Mostly based off this article (which is an amazing article by the way, and is worth the read), the issue is focused mainly around the american youth enrolled in colleges and universities (USA). The issue is perceived as a joke here on the internet (see reddit.com/r/tumblrinaction for one example) where sensible people ridicule what seems to be the overly entitled expectations of a handful of individuals complaining about needing "trigger warnings." The writer of the article did a great job of defining it as well, linking the term to the work "microaggressions."

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Microaggressions are small actions or word choices that seem on their face to have no malicious intent but that are thought of as a kind of violence nonetheless.

Quote
Trigger warnings are alerts that professors (or anyone) are expected to issue if something in a course might cause a strong emotional response.
imo, the fact that a normal, college enrolled individual with no real history of severe trauma claims that a simple microaggression, which may be as innocuous as asking an asian student "arent you supposed to be good at math?" can illicit a response similar to victims of shellshock/PTSD is ludicrous.
The loud minority that  claims to be affected in life changing ways by these microaggresions are affecting campus life, to the extent that what can be said in the classroom is limited in order to turn it into a "safe space" for the few that think they are really affected by these innocuous, everyday comments.

what is the point then, of going to college, which is supposed to prepare students for the 'real world' if the universities reinforce the idea to those few that they will hold their hands and restrict what can be said if the students dont like it?
Because it's really about something else entirely. 

What could that be?
10515  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 26, 2015, 10:59:32 PM
Trump vs. Jorge Ramos on Birthright Citizenship, Wall, Deportation: "We're Going To Start With The Gangs"

Univision anchor Jorge Ramos took on Donald Trump at a press conference held by the Republican presidential candidate in Dubuque, Iowa on Tuesday evening. The two went head to head for five minutes over birthright citizenship, how Trump would build a wall, how he would deport illegal immigrants and more. Trump fought back against Ramos and attempted to get him to acknowledge crime committed by illegal immigrants.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/08/25/trump_vs_jorge_ramos_on_birthright_citizenship_wall_building_a_building_thats_95_stories_tall_more_difficult.html

Video of exchange at link and is part of the press conference I eluded to above. It's a pretty good back and forth and the worm's tactics make you want to side w/ The Donald outside of the issue itself.

Did you say worm?

https://twitter.com/CBSNLive/status/636309832572669952

 Smiley


BUT what's interesting is not the forced removal of a political operative trying to push the limits and get forcibly removed to make a point in the media...

....but the public response to the attempt to orchestrate a forcible removal to make a media point...

We don't care.  We've had enough of this stupidity.

Is that right?  Maybe that's just my point of view.


You and a few millions more... It is already backfiring and The Donald loves this. Also ramos came back and asked away, something the media fails to report for some unknown reason...



I want to know.  Did he get butt kicked out?  Did he get thrown out and sail through the air?  Did he tumble out?

Was he squawking like a chicken when he hit the hard concrete?
10516  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 26, 2015, 10:57:06 PM
Let us all resolve not to offend others feelings at least in this lovely forum.That doesn't mean I am not open to liberal discussion but that should not be based on biased assumptions.
A while back one of the posters took the time to explain to (ignorant Westerners, lol) the exact meaning and use of the phrase "Islam" as opposed to "Muslim."  Keep in mind that few people not in your faith know things of that level of detail and may use these terms interchangeably.
Shouldn't those  'few people' first educate themselves about the topic before posting any offensive things in public forums?
Actually this is an example of misunderstanding.  Let me explain.

"Few people not in your faith know things" means, for example...

I know the difference between Muslim and Islam, but if I go to a Starbucks where there are no Muslims, nobody in there will likely know the difference.  If I go to one a mile away, it's full of them, that's a different story.

The "few people" are those who know, the many do not know.

Misunderstanding is rampant.
10517  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 26, 2015, 09:08:29 PM
Trump vs. Jorge Ramos on Birthright Citizenship, Wall, Deportation: "We're Going To Start With The Gangs"

Univision anchor Jorge Ramos took on Donald Trump at a press conference held by the Republican presidential candidate in Dubuque, Iowa on Tuesday evening. The two went head to head for five minutes over birthright citizenship, how Trump would build a wall, how he would deport illegal immigrants and more. Trump fought back against Ramos and attempted to get him to acknowledge crime committed by illegal immigrants.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/08/25/trump_vs_jorge_ramos_on_birthright_citizenship_wall_building_a_building_thats_95_stories_tall_more_difficult.html

Video of exchange at link and is part of the press conference I eluded to above. It's a pretty good back and forth and the worm's tactics make you want to side w/ The Donald outside of the issue itself.

Did you say worm?

https://twitter.com/CBSNLive/status/636309832572669952

 Smiley


BUT what's interesting is not the forced removal of a political operative trying to push the limits and get forcibly removed to make a point in the media...

....but the public response to the attempt to orchestrate a forcible removal to make a media point...

We don't care.  We've had enough of this stupidity.

Is that right?  Maybe that's just my point of view.
10518  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 26, 2015, 09:02:21 PM
Let us all resolve not to offend others feelings at least in this lovely forum.That doesn't mean I am not open to liberal discussion but that should not be based on biased assumptions.
A while back one of the posters took the time to explain to (ignorant Westerners, lol) the exact meaning and use of the phrase "Islam" as opposed to "Muslim."  Keep in mind that few people not in your faith know things of that level of detail and may use these terms interchangeably.
10519  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 26, 2015, 06:22:35 PM
Now how do you defend this

http://freethoughtnation.com/un-muslim-states-reject-ban-on-violence-against-women-as-violating-islamic-law/

Very peaceful!!!! I mean they have an issue with reforms from UN as UN wants them to treat their women and girls as equally human as they are. They have an issue with that?? They procedure rape victims!!! For adultery and immortality when they are just been over powered in most common cases and this is peace REALLY???
Again same mistake. I am not here to defend the so called'Muslim Nations' or there deeds.I came here to read the title of this thread which is very offensive to Muslim like me.
What a ridiculous contradiction you guys call Muslims violent and accuse us of spreading hatred but we never create such offensive threads for other religions.You peace loving guys do Smiley


The reason why this thread was created:

why people hate islam:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776096.0


I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate islam? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because media'
and Yes, I am a muslim for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE it, and I could be here to clarify things to you.
Also here is something that most people mistake about islam is that "Islam hates other religions" for this I say, Islam does not hate ANY religion, but it suggests to 'invite' them to islam, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because the other religions decided to come into war on Islam.

If you need anything clarified, I am here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care  Wink



There is not hate in this thread...

 Smiley



I've certainly been offended by some things said in this thread.  That's a bit different than "hating," ...

So one muslim starts this thread and set the thread title saying "I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care"

...and another muslim say "I AM offended..."

I guess this is interesting in a way.  Are we trying to be politically correct and "offend" nobody, should we care about that?

Was the thread title simply incorrect grammer?  Because the first post doesn't seem to be about why does "Islam hate people."  Wapinter be advised there's been A LOT of people for who English is not a language they know well posting, sometimes through Google Translate and stuff like that.

10520  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 26, 2015, 04:41:13 PM
Now how do you defend this

http://freethoughtnation.com/un-muslim-states-reject-ban-on-violence-against-women-as-violating-islamic-law/

Very peaceful!!!! I mean they have an issue with reforms from UN as UN wants them to treat their women and girls as equally human as they are. They have an issue with that?? They procedure rape victims!!! For adultery and immortality when they are just been over powered in most common cases and this is peace REALLY???
Again same mistake. I am not here to defend the so called'Muslim Nations' or there deeds.I came here to read the title of this thread which is very offensive to Muslim like me.
What a ridiculous contradiction you guys call Muslims violent and accuse us of spreading hatred but we never create such offensive threads for other religions.You peace loving guys do Smiley

Huh

http://freethoughtnation.com/un-muslim-states-reject-ban-on-violence-against-women-as-violating-islamic-law/

The quote is from the Kuwait News Agency.

Are you offended that we reprint and discuss this quote?  Who are you offended by?  Us, or the Kuwait News Agency?
I never said I am offended by quoting anything or that news.I said I am offended by the TITLE of this THREAD which reads ' why islam hates people'

OKay, then I understand.
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