I think I'll start a 1000 Nxt one later in the week on nxtcrypto  And yet, there's still no "remind password" functionality on nxtcrypto forums... Well, that's something to keep bugging the admins about then. Edit: wesleyh, can it be less hidden maybe?  Let's do it right now.
Go right ahead For mine, I just want it to: a) be more properly thought out. I have some formats that will be fun, but I want it to be a bit more that going to a memegenerator. and b) be privately funded for a change. I have earned enough Nxt to throw some around and want people to have some PS fun Might even split it up into several 100 Nxt ones. |
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Doge is functioning this well because it was the most popular meme of 2013. If we could come up with some hilarious meme involving NXT, then I'm sure we could see it go to da moon. Perhaps someone will create a nxt clone from 2014's most popular meme  What about using such memes in marketing campaign:  ? If you want to get people moving over to a new forum, starting contests for these is a good way to do it. Photoshopping contests are always popular and attract lots of people and bring some life to a forum. I think I'll start a 1000 Nxt one later in the week on nxtcrypto |
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forging next is a joke if you dont havemillions..
let the millionare stackholders do the dirty job and run the java shity client...they arethe only who earn money forging
I quit to open java client because simply i didnt forge anything.
Maybe I'm misinterpreting your tone here, but forging NXT is no different than bitcoin in that you need money to make money... you gotta have $10,000 USD to buy a Neptune mining rig (or whatever the f*ck they're called these days). Buying an $89 USB ASIC does not launch a career in mining, nor in forging. Nxt isn't magic for beginners with no money but hopes of making a career out of skimming fees. Nxt is all about forward-thinking features and a group of people that bust their asses because we don't have crutches like memes or pseudo-celebrity coin logos. The main difference why miners hate nxt is that you can spend $1500 and start script mining on an old computer. After short time you will mine your investment and start mining clear carbon money. Today when you invest $1500 and buy NXT, you will forge nothing. Maybe it will change in the future ... every 1000 years you will forge one huge block? Could somebody explain to the happy miners why should they buy NXT instead of mining? At this point: as an investment. If all goes as expected, you will make back your investment on increase in value of Nxt itself. |
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I've been an admin on a big forum (weebl forum in the glory years) for years and basically I dislike the layout and use of nxtcrypto.
It's very hard to keep good track of threads on it and it's hard to read. Simply having striped posts installed (different tones for alternate posts) would help immensely.
The main thing however would be to actually dó the move. If we are half committed and all tech people stay in here, it just won't happen.
Running a forum is hard work. Getting a crack team of moderators that balance being fun ánd be able to use the whip while being able to withstand some criticism is also hard.
I'm all for moving, but somehow I don't feel either of the forums will work the way they are. (Italic for emphasis)
you can set your own different theme for NXTCrypto.org forums. I use the prosilver theme which does have that striped alternate posts thing. Prosilver also is waaaay more efficient on screen real estate THANK GOD! This is bliss. Thanks for pointing out the obvious  I'm ready to move now |
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I wrote it somewhere - we will get her (and pay) costs first and then we can decide about something like:
spend 10.000 for updating all websites / month
spend 10.000 for updating all social medias / month
- so QTBC could get for example 5.000 from the sites fund + 3.000 from the social media fund / month
So (and I mean this in a very positive way) it has been decided to cover the costs she has made for now? I think that would be great, at least. That is for work done and needs to be covered. In light of the discussion we had the last day it might be a good idea to ask her what costs she has in total and garantuee that for a set period of time. I have no idea if 5000 and 3000 is too much or too little for running those. Can anyone pitch in with an informed view? |
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All, Ive asked QBTC to list her out of pocket expenses so far for website. Obviously, she should be reimbursed from unclaimed NXT for this, hopefully along with a bit of bounty for her hours and hours and hours of professional services on the site. And the community will need to determine if she should scale back the performance of the site to lower the bills. Obviously she cannot continue to fund the www site like she has been doing. If the community doesnt want her to continue running it then at least reimburse her for the $ she's spent on it so far. I made a proposal yesterday for at least her cost so far (which is considerable, btw) to be reimbursed directly from unclaimed coins since she has already provided those services. But no one seems to want to do that, so I guess we probably wont have a www site whenever the monthly cost for it is due again. I was thinking that we could pay her costs from until now directly from unclaimed NXT, and the future costs would come from marketing fund, but at this point it looks like we wont have a web site too much longer, unless someone else wants to just pay the cost out of their own pocket as well as do all the work themselves. WTFO?   Personally I think she has been doing a phenomenal job and the lot of you are complete assholes for making me write all this up. You read my mind: only seven minutes apart we post basically the same message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.msg4920408#msg4920408 |
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First marketing thing to do should be to use a specific forum for NXT instead of creating multiple threads on this bitcoin forum. This long thread isn't easy to follow, and now you re creating more around ? +1^100000 I have said this for weeks now. Let's start using the forum NEXTCOIN.ORG where we have 4500 active members. Why the hell are the main decisions still being made in this neverendingthread that is more disorganized than a crackhead? Actually it should be nxtcrypto.org - if everyone moves there, members will come. Best to use a forum that is independent. I agree with this completely and have brought it up several times why we don't post on nxt's forum instead of btc forum. What do you think a new user/investor's first impression is when they arrive at nxt forum n it's a deserted ghost town. I highly recommend we chose one centralized nxt forum n everyone post there. Since nextcoin.org is own by dgex.com i suggest we post on nxtcrypto.org just to eliminate the conflict of interest. also, since no one wants to use the name "nextcoin" (except myself), i propose we use nxtcrypto. Also, it would be helpful if people discuss marketing/promotion in it's own thread instead of discussing it in the development thread. Trying to have the longest alt coin thread btc talk is not gonna have a long term benefit for nxt. Tai Zen + lots. This thread is doing my head in, tbh. It's getting a lot harder to stay on top of current events, and we even have poor old Damelon spending hours per day just on summarising the damn thing. It could easily be split off into 4 or 5 monster threads on one of the other fora, instead of one Godzilla thread like now. And think about the situation 3 or four months down the line, when we have 10x (100x .....1000X) times the current users. It is a very impressive thread, though. Someone should get hold of backups and save them for our grandkids....or make a book. I've been an admin on a big forum (weebl forum in the glory years) for years and basically I dislike the layout and use of nxtcrypto. It's very hard to keep good track of threads on it and it's hard to read. Simply having striped posts installed (different tones for alternate posts) would help immensely. The main thing however would be to actually dó the move. If we are half committed and all tech people stay in here, it just won't happen. Running a forum is hard work. Getting a crack team of moderators that balance being fun ánd be able to use the whip while being able to withstand some criticism is also hard. I'm all for moving, but somehow I don't feel either of the forums will work the way they are. (Italic for emphasis) |
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there is no open bounty for graphic elements, we have only infographics (that reminds me I could ask someone about my NxtMyth infographic ) , because if you look at the logo contest, there was also a huge number of great contestans. But still we can start to discuss about this topic, because this guy is really good and what is also important - active - https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=667 (+ we shouldn't forget about QTBC's designs). Then we're going to have a proposal by Damelon's friends and there is a possibility so THEY will lead us in this area. But they should provide a lot of materials then It's time for paying PRO marketing materials. It also means current T-shirts for Berlin will be extremely rare, if we choose a new branding design next month. Now that I see QBTC mentioned: has payment for running nxtcrypto come up again? Yesterday it was mentioned, but in all the commotion it was pushed to the background again? Can she at least be reimbursed for costs? She's been instrumental in getting Nxt started and now it turns out she is running at a loss. That doesn't seem right. What are the views on this? She runs Twitter, FB and nxtcrypto and has basically the largest access to users. Just wanting to sound you people out. |
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My question remains unanswered: how many TPS do we currently have? 1? 2?
 Based on last 10 blocks - 0.01 Hmm, i see. (also considering other answers) It think from a marketing perspective, it's better to have not perfect but superior product. So, even 50 oder 100 TPS would suffice to stand out. After we fixed the whole community with that little drug, we can progress further to 250 TPS (NXT2) and in the long run with 1000 TPS (NXT3). Think this is much more efficient because anybody will 1) see NXT is the better product and 2) it's getting better and better. I love people who have their feet on the ground. There is no need for 1000TPS at the moment. We have the *potential* but it needs work. At this moment the drive to actualise that potential could actually hurt us more than help us. Step by step etc. and various refences to the building of Rome. |
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throw it on bter, this way we all will have much more FUN I'm too lazy. I prefer to have 100 BTC instead of 110. If you dump it all at once we can all profit from the downtrend and buy even lower U could collect 100 BTC and buy lower without affecting the price. Have a dumping contest with Emule! |
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I'm selling 1'366'334 NXT for 100 BTC. Anyone?
I should have added that it's the price with 10% discount to market price. Why are you selling so much?  It's all I have left. I'm going to fund a project but I recalled how easy my last donation was deanonymized. Now buying bitcoins, mixing and buying nxts back is the only reliable way to break links between accounts. ITS OK GUYS HES REBUYING LOL. FOLLOW HIM BACK UP Hahaha Don't you love having inside info? |
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I've PM-ed you the details. I also want to welcome mww to the team. I think it's great (and for me educational!) to have a pro on the team! |
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Hi guys, Just saw this one the nextcoin forums. Has this been seen yet? Can anyone give him an answer? Seems like a "hidden" cost for most users. https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3755.0.htmlIs there any way to reduce or outright throttle bandwidth usage of the NXT client?
I've been running NXT client on Windows since mid Dec, upgrading to newest version when new ones are out. The client uses between 150KB/s to 500KB/s. This works out to 390GB to 1.2TB(!) per month. My ISP charges dearly for exceeding 300GB/mo. I first found this out because in Jan I unexpectedly hit 500GB of usage - thanks largely to NXT client. In the first 10 hours of the new month, NXT client (now version 0.5.11) has already racked up 18GB of transfers.
I have high confidence in this next-gen currency, and want to participate in the network. And I don't want to lose NXT due to transparent forging penalties if I don't participate. But I can't pay Comcast another $50-200+ a month to be able to run such a bandwidth hungry app.
Please let me know any way to reduce the NXT client bandwidth consumption, and/or to set explicit throttle limits on it. My apologies if this should be common knowledge, but I've already searched these forums and general internet for throttling or bandwidth related docs or posts and found nothing. Thanks. |
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I've just gotten a friendly webdeveloper interested in creating Nxt payment modules for Wordpress, prestashop and magento (possibly other open source e-commerce systems, too).
He's currently swamped with work, but is going to read up this week and I expect a reaction during next week.
good. I would also vote for Shopify and Drupal, maybe also donating button for Blogger I heard back from my guy and he's going to open a Nxt account today and try things out. He is going to try out various ways of payment and will report back. Only once he has figured out a way to keep it safe ánd easy can it be translated to the payment systems. I myself am aiming for all open source systems, so yes, definitely drupal and shopify, too. Everything should flow more easily once the basic system has been thought out. Edit: I just want to add that my small article on "Why (and what) I invested in Nxt" is one of the best running articles on my blog, after "First look at a Nxt high-end forging rig" and "Showcasing Nxt clients" and the Miami Summary. These four articles out of a total of 27 got over 26% of all views. It's interesting to note that none of them are really technical, but all are written from either a personal angle, or just showcase an interesting aspect of Nxt in an easy to understand way. I say this to encourage people not to be daunted by the big articles. Not everyone can write those, but giving Nxt a "face" by just telling people why YOU like it is very effective too. Or just some aspect you think is really interesting to YOU. Loads of people have no idea why Nxt is great, and while we have people who can tackle the technical "big issues" in print, we also need people to show that Nxt is interesting to them. |
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There was a decision made that 10M won't be sent to genesys, so this stupid suggestion is finally out of discussion.
Nope, CfB still is planning on it. |
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If you should destroy nxt, at least you can fucking donate them to needing people around the world (homeless children of manilla). Would be many that would cry their eyes out if they got that kind of money.
regards
j0b
I like the idea of at least something good coming out of the coins if we can't decide. Also, I like the Carbon Offset plan. I am also tired and don't think clearly anymore, so I'm off to bed. It's been a pleasure as usual (good luck with voting, funds and whatever else crops up! Gives me something to do for the summaries ) Yes. Thanks for reminding. We should also exclude from money keepers list everyone who mentioned charity. If you're so generous than let others increase Nxt price with these 10M and then spend your own coins for poor children or kittens or whatever. Sorry, if you get worked up by one person stating he likes an idea on a personal basis and you judge that person in totality by that, then: wow, just wow. Night night. I'm just saying that in Nxt committee we need people who wants Nxt to succeed. People like Bill Gates to Microsoft. If we spend 9M for Nxt development and marketing then the last 1M will cost ten times more than 10M now. Starting that point we can start do nice things for whatever we want. What part of "IF" in my sentence didn't you understand? "IF" we don't get consensus then CfB will send them to Genesis. I just said that *in that case* I'd rather see them put to a use that is constructive. If you are going to disqualifying remarks, please do so based on what I say, not what you think I said, please. |
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If you should destroy nxt, at least you can fucking donate them to needing people around the world (homeless children of manilla). Would be many that would cry their eyes out if they got that kind of money.
regards
j0b
I like the idea of at least something good coming out of the coins if we can't decide. Also, I like the Carbon Offset plan. I am also tired and don't think clearly anymore, so I'm off to bed. It's been a pleasure as usual (good luck with voting, funds and whatever else crops up! Gives me something to do for the summaries ) Yes. Thanks for reminding. We should also exclude from money keepers list everyone who mentioned charity. If you're so generous than let others increase Nxt price with these 10M and then spend your own coins for poor children or kittens or whatever. Sorry, if you get worked up by one person stating he likes an idea on a personal basis and you judge that person in totality by that, then: wow, just wow. Night night. |
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If you should destroy nxt, at least you can fucking donate them to needing people around the world (homeless children of manilla). Would be many that would cry their eyes out if they got that kind of money.
regards
j0b
I like the idea of at least something good coming out of the coins if we can't decide. Also, I like the Carbon Offset plan. I am also tired and don't think clearly anymore, so I'm off to bed. It's been a pleasure as usual (good luck with voting, funds and whatever else crops up! Gives me something to do for the summaries ) |
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I think we will achieve much better results, if we just split 9 millions into 6/3 for dev/marketing, as many people seems to agree.
Then make TWO committees: one marketing and one dev.
They would work much more efficient that way, because the polarizing issue of which type of projects to cover will be already decided by this split.
Could work. The only "problem" is see there is that a committee of experts is not always totally good. I'd actually welcome a few people outside of PR and marketing on the marketing committee, if only because they would provide a counter. It also leaves the committees open to accusations of only funding "pet" projects. My ideal would be a mixed group that has a definite deadline to finish discussing about a project (say two, three days or any other number shorter than a week) after which they had to vote. All should be committed to get all "fors" or "againsts" on the table in that time. After that: a binding vote: yay or nay. It will never be perfect. The "voting" discussions already proved that we can only approach it. That saidI would support any plan that allows us to move more quickly on some key points. From experience it doesn't work quite as "binary" as you seem to suggest. In my experience one guy comes up with an idea and then you discuss it back and forth. Some people chime in with ideas, build on eachothers ideas and suddenly it's no longer "one person" who did X, Y or Z.
A committee must be able to communicate and collaborate with eachother. Otherwise shit will just become a neverending debate. I see we are talking about two kinds of committee. I am talking about a committee that just approves and disburses, but won't tamper with the plan. You talk about a committee that would become co-collaborator in plans. I thought that the prior votes (vote 2) had already established that the committee would be responsible for giving out funds for open bounties and not initiate its own projects? In that scenario, my argument makes sense. In yours, it is indeed not workable and rather artificial. |
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