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1061  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / whirlwind.money layanan mixing BTC yang menambahkan ETH dan XMR on: July 17, 2023, 11:34:24 AM
Whirlwind.money salah satu layanan mixing yang menawarkan fee gratis (no fee) dan mengutamakan privasi.
Selain layanan mixing, whirlwind.money juga menjalankan kampanye Anonymity Mining.

04 Juli 2023, lewat thread ANN, mereka membuat pembaruan penting seputar inovasi dan memperbaharui layanan.
Salah satu dari beberapa inovasi yang dilahirkan adalah mengaktifkan penarikan Monero dan Ethereum.
Ini sebuah pengumuman yang perlu saya sampai disini karena note whirlwind akan menjadi dompet yang berfungsi sebagai tempat menyimpan dan menarik Bitcoin serta Monero dan Ethereum.

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we asked ourselves if there is any way we can speed up this process or perhaps grow the Anonymity Set in a different way while achieving the same goal, and here is what we came up with:

1.Allow multiple deposits on the same Note on the Dashboard page. Currently you would need to make a new deposit into another Note and send your balance using Pay to Note, this is a clunky process and we want to get rid of it.
2.Enable Monero and Ethereum deposits and withdrawals. When you enter your private key you will see your Note balance in BTC, XMR and ETH.
3.Enable internal 'bridging' between BTC, XMR and ETH for a fee. You will be able to deposit ETH on your Whirlwind Note, change it internally to BTC and withdraw it to your on-chain address.
4.There will be no 3rd party involved in the bridging process, we will provide the liquidity on all 3 chains and rebalance it when needed.
5.We will use the same setup on XMR and ETH as we do on BTC, meaning multi-sig and the backend-signer architecture.

The Note will now act as your Whirlwind 'wallet' where you can deposit and withdraw Bitcoin, as well as Monero and Ethereum. Pay to Note will be available for all coins, making feeless instant transactions possible on all 3 chains. We will also enable bridging from one to the other for a fee, so you will be able to deposit ETH and withdraw BTC to your on-chain address.

Penambahan ETH dan XMR disambut baik oleh banyak pihak yang sudah mencoba menggunakan layanan whirlwind.money salah satunya dari manager kampanye profesional.

I for one am excited about the addition of ETH and XMR! Should be some good times ahead and hopefully some faster growth comes with it, too.
Siapa tahu ada diantara kita bisa menggunakan layanan whirlwind.money untuk meningkatkan privasi dalam mining.


1. [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥
2. Website Official
1062  Economy / Speculation / Re: Be patient and you will be there soon. on: July 17, 2023, 10:47:36 AM
If you can endure with the current price situation, and hold not to allow any challenges make you to sell in this condition, I guess you will make a huge amount of profits from your holding soon. If the price of BTC reach $40k next month will you sell? I know many people will not sell until the price reach $100k, which it will take a long years before such dream will come to pass. What is your opinion.
It is self-evident that patience is a very important factor for an investor in the investment world.
Without patience, the goal of making a profit in investing will not be achieved.

Perhaps there will be some hesitation when the price of Bitcoin is already at $35,000. Doubts will arise at this stage where the choice between selling or not but all of that is returned to each individual to how confident in his decision behind the strategy they use.
In situations like this, patience and the ability to analyze thoroughly are needed.
Personally, when the price has reached $40,000, it is very close to the holding target that I set and it is likely that I will continue the holding target.
1063  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People Are Not Nerdy Enough on: July 17, 2023, 08:13:50 AM
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What are your thoughts on this?
Those who save large sums of money in conventional banks do not fully understand the banking system. They may only understand how to benefit from the amount of savings deposited as a customer. Another possibility is that they simply understand some of their rights as customers from what was explained before opening an account.

Their relation type to Bitcoin IMO is pretty much the same. Most people don't really care about the Bitcoin system. They probably know that Bitcoin has a good system and Bitcoin can give them a large amount of profit compared to the interest rate that conventional bank deposits can get if they invest long term.

It could be that they just stop there in understanding Bitcoin because if they understand how money works, they will be confused about why fiat money works that way.
1064  Economy / Economics / Re: Can your passion lead to an increase in your net worth? on: July 17, 2023, 07:04:54 AM
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The people in these stories followed their passion and created wealth through it. What is your opinion on following one's passion in relation to wealth? Can your passion lead to an increase in your net worth? If yes, what is stopping you from following it?
It's not the story, it's the conviction and effort in making it happen.
Many fail with decisions made after quitting a company because they don't know what to do to get on with a new business.
On the contrary, it is not uncommon for people to succeed after deciding to stop working in a large company by continuing the new business they are doing.

Apart from belief and effort, there are other factors that will bring someone to achieve it all, namely capital and knowledge such as creative ideas that will be applied to the new business as unique as possible.
IMO, for people who have talent in business, the steps to do that are relatively easy.
1065  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Help to rescue on: July 16, 2023, 10:23:32 AM
I have DOT in my portfolio and it is down 79% as of today. The amount I've put there is quite big for me. The average buy price per DOT is 25.80USD. The price of DOT today is 5.38.
So the question is what are my options to rescue the money I've put into it? Is there anything I can do or I just wait?
The way to save it is to wait. If you sell at the current price, you will automatically be at a loss point that reaches approximately 19USD per 1 Polkadot.
Before you decide to put all your money into DOT, you should first analyze what coins you want to buy because IMO putting all your money into one type of coin is not good except for Bitcoin.

Again, the way to save your money is to wait until the price of Polkadot/DOT returns to the purchase price.
If you still have other money, look at other coins that have the opportunity to increase and buy. The profit that will be obtained can cover the loss due to the decline in DOT price.
I look at the price chart, XRP is still on the rise.
1066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not compared to Bitcoin with the best anyone on: July 16, 2023, 09:33:47 AM
Altcoins include ethereum,polygon etc. Already heard of dying of altcoins. Many peoples invest in different platforms. Some people hold ethereum polygon bnb etc. But their prices don't rise much.  Are they better to hold and invest than Bitcoin? In my opinion Bitcoin is the best to hold. ... ... ...
Yes, they are better off investing in Bitcoin than investing in altcoins that often disappoint although there are types of altcoins that can be expected to have large returns, but not in all altcoins.
Bitcoin is the best investment asset available in the crypto space and will still be the best for those who want complete value in addition to an investment that will benefit those who hold it.

If one intends to invest in altcoins, do not put 100% of the money into them.
70% on Bitcoin and 30% on certain altcoins one of which is Ethereum.
1067  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Positive thoughts and attitude towards Bitcoin. on: July 16, 2023, 06:03:43 AM
A few months ago when the bitcoin market was 17 thousand USD I invested 80% of the dividend in the bitcoin market and I still hold it.
I hope you can keep the Bitcoin you already have and try not to let it go before the new ATH is reached.
Keep adding to the Bitcoin holdings you want to invest in according to your financial capabilities.
Investing in Bitcoin is a good decision you have made.

I think Bitcoin will be more valuable in the next few years and maybe it will reverse but I have confidence I hold it. When investing in something there is always risk involved. I think risk is the possibility of gaining or losing something valuable.
It will be worth more for a long time.
Risk makes us more driven and the risk involved in Bitcoin is much more "fun" than the risk of investing in altcoins.
The first risk that will make you have to be ready is when the price decreases from the price when you buy.
Welcome to join and enjoy the benefits you will get in investing in Bitcoin.
1068  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Storing Private Keys with Colors, how safe is this? on: July 15, 2023, 05:13:28 PM
I would like to hear your thoughts on this matter. Do you trust this new approach, or do you prefer the old method of storing seed phrases? Let's  share our opinions on this
I have tried the tool (https://enteropositivo.github.io/bip39colors/) which is shared on the Twitter account @enteropositivo[1].
When I turn off the internet connection and insert the Seed Phrase into the available column and press the Generate Colors button, the results will appear with 8 different colors.



Its use is easy as described, but I am not very sure to save a personal key or seed phrase with the color method offered by the developer Entero Positivo.

I don't want to believe it even though the tool is considered sophisticated.
I am safer to store in my own way without an internet connection even though positivo says he is worried if storing on paper or other physical objects when the thief searches the house and will find it[2].


[1]. https://twitter.com/EnteroPositivo/status/1673041550585069568
[2]. https://cointelegraph.com/news/bip39-converts-crypto-wallet-seed-phrases-colors-art
1069  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apakah disini ada yg berminat jadi investor dengan modal 3-15 bnb on: July 15, 2023, 09:40:53 AM
Hai all..
apakah disini ada yang berminat menjadi investor dengan modal 3-15 BNB
Get profit 50-150%
Project yang di jalankan token/coin V2

Untuk lebih jelasnya lanjut PM yah
Saya tidak berminat. Sorry gan.

Melakukan sendiri secara pelan-pelan sambil belajar otodidak dan aktif menyimak diskusi forum, alhamdulillah kita sudah menjadi investor beberapa koin seperti BNB, ETH dari dulu dengan menggunakan exchange indodax dan tokocrypto sebagai tempat bertransaksi.
Tidak mudah untuk meyakinkan anggota SFI yang aktif di forum akan bersedia menjadi investor BNB jika model yang agan promosikan seperti ini.

Paling tidak jelaskan secara jelas gambaran proyek yang agan promosikan karena saya sangat percaya jika member SFI yang aktif paling rendah sekali sudah memiliki kemampuan dasar tentang berinvestasi kripto.
1070  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading tips that helpfull for beginners on: July 15, 2023, 08:41:10 AM
Things you need to know about the market and Trading before starting.

Knowledge about trading:
Demo account :
Trading Strategy:
Risk Tolerance :
Design making:
Reliable exchanges:
Secure investment:
For the first point, I think it's okay. Anyone needs to have knowledge before entering the trading world because with knowledge people will find what they should do to achieve goals in trading.

Are there any other tips that you didn't include?
Because in many search rooms I often find tips like this that are made for beginners.
Maybe like the level of consistency of a trader in pursuing his trading activities and risk management.
Other tips like don't trade using borrowed money.

Investments that provide a level of security IMO are in Bitcoin. Investing in Bitcoin is not a scam.

Nice beginner guide and advice, ... ...
Beginners give tips for beginners. A quote I once heard. But I am a person who sees things not from appearances.
1071  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do I avoid and identify scams? on: July 15, 2023, 08:07:21 AM
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Am not much familiar with cryptocurrency, and that's why I need more guidance so that if eventual I see one, I will know how to handle it, this will help me to have a good knowledge on the path to settle for.
A strong reason why people are not so interested in involving themselves in cryptocurrency is because there is no guarantee that the money invested will return as desired (scam).
Perhaps 2017 and 2018 may be the years that make people undo their intention to withdraw from investment activities in the crypto world because there are some of the most severe cases of fraud such as BitConnect and OneCoin.
The almost weekly birth of crypto projects in the crypto space seemed unstoppable.
Investors who have opted for Bitcoin since then have never experienced scams like other cryptos.

Know who the team members involved in the crypto project are because from my experience since being active in altcoins, many team members and devs have run away in the middle of the road.
Look for coins that have a clear purpose and have a large community and a strong foundation.
For me it is in Bitcoin.
1072  Economy / Speculation / Re: The price of a Bitcoin could cost millions of dollars: Standard Chartered on: July 15, 2023, 05:54:17 AM
The price of digital currency Bitcoin has started to rise again. In this reality, multinational bank Standard Chartered thinks that the price of Bitcoin may rise to 50 thousand dollars this year. Even in the latter half of 2024, the price of this currency can reach 1 lakh 20 dollars. According to the news agency Reuters, investors may be more attracted to it as the price of Bitcoin is increasing recently. Earlier in April, Standard Chartered said, at the end of 2024, the price of Bitcoin, a virtual currency, could rise to 100,000 dollars. Then they said that the 'winter' of cryptocurrency is about to end. But now the bank's foreign exchange analyst Jeff Kendrick said that the price of Bitcoin may increase by 20 percent to 120,000 dollars.
I welcome the estimated price of Bitcoin as made by Standard Chartered. For me, this kind of estimate must be reported more and more from now on and so on to be known by many people.
2024 will be a historic year for everyone who has Bitcoin.

We all hope that the price increase as expected can happen as soon as possible even though anyone can not be sure it will happen with certainty.
There is an increase in prices that occur after the estimation is not made. Likewise with the reporting of SEC recognition for ETF Spot BlackRock, Vaneck and several others.



I still survive with $100,000 estimates to date, of course I will be very happy if there is a higher estimate coming from Standard Chartered and from other parties.
This will be a reinforcement of hope.
1073  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: risk nothing, you're risking more on: July 14, 2023, 06:46:23 PM
since 2018 which is over 5 years when I got information about Bitcoin I have lost lots of opportunity that could have changed my life because I choose to be reluctant from concrete friends advise concerning Bitcoin because, through investment of cyptocurrency many of my pals have been scammed  and the downtrend movement in 2018 also got me discouraged so i concluded that Bitcoin was not worth the risk for me, and
 now I have come to regret from the discission i made due to ignorance because over the years it progress has really attracted my attention, so i met a friend who is now i successful investor and he introduced me to this platform
Not yet. You still have the opportunity to take back the opportunity since you realize that you have missed the opportunity.
The best gift is what you are living right now. No one knows what will happen tomorrow but trying to plan the best for tomorrow is worth thinking about.

Opportunity and risk are inseparable. Readiness in seeking opportunities and readiness to accept risks is the most important not regretting what has happened in the past.
Have you set a goal that you will achieve in Bitcoin? if not, set that goal first. Many people today still don't know where they are going with Bitcoin because Bitcoin has never been the same as a token/coin called an altcoin.

Bitcoin volatility is still high and you should be prepared to stick with long term goals.
Investors who invest in Bitcoin for the long term look very easy like a straight path, in fact they often experience various challenges that are not easy.
Are you ready, let's set targets together in achieving freedom with Bitcoin.
1074  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust Wallet Alternative (multi currency) on: July 14, 2023, 10:02:35 AM
I always separate between bitcoin and altcoin wallet.
I used a wallet that can use for Bitcoin only because I am not restful if compound it.
In this case, I used Electrum for Bitcoin and Metamask for Altcoin. Both wallets were installed and not so much space.
Something that is not wrong if done. There is a separation between the two.
Bitcoin are stored in wallets that specifically support Bitcoin and use other wallets to store altcoins.
It will be easier if there is a wallet that can be trusted to store two types at once, such as an unstoppable wallet. Of course, don't store it in large quantities.

If storing Bitcoin in the Electrum wallet, I also recommend it because it's a proven wallet.
It would be even better to use a hardware wallet in order to further increase comfort.

This way is the most comfortable for me when I compare it to installing a wallet that I don't trust yet.
Including Trust Wallet.
Wallets to avoid for storing coins.
1075  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will you sell...next bull run? on: July 14, 2023, 09:05:08 AM
1. What price do you think that bitcoin will hit in the next ATH.
My target is $100,000 the next ATH Bitcoin price.

2. When do you plan to sell and make good profit from your bitcoin portfolio,is it next bull season or the next two bull market,because bitcoin price is always tempting during the bull run. Give me your target price that you will be happy to sell off your bitcoin.
At the price I mentioned above.
Maybe at that time my portfolio will be empty and will be filled again when the price goes back down.
This does not indicate that I want the price of Bitcoin to fall again, but from experience that has happened that Bitcoin after reaching its highest price will return to a declining phase or be called bearish.

I call the next ATH Bitcoin price $100k, other people can assume more than the price I mentioned with various analyzes made.
1076  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is it Advisable joining Bitcoin signal group? on: July 14, 2023, 08:38:00 AM
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So what do you guys think, let's share knowledge.
There are no restrictions on joining the signal group as long as they as the owner invite you to join.
Such groups have appeared quite a lot lately. If any of us use Telegram on a smartphone, you may open the Telegram application on your smartphone and see that someone has added us to the trading signal group.

Activities in it, almost every member sends proof that they have withdrawn the profits they have earned while joining and running it.
To me it's very annoying and looks like a crap group.
They are in it like selling medicine, but in reality they are sick.
People who are tempted by the nominal amount distributed to the group will send money. Maybe one time people who deposit money will get a percentage of the profit, the next they will lose track.

Is it recommended to join, for me not.
Trading and investing in Bitcoins is not essential to join them.
1077  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust Wallet Alternative (multi currency) on: July 13, 2023, 07:32:26 PM
Probably unstoppable wallet.
You are extremely fast 😄😄😄😄 thank you 💕
I also agree with what OmegaStarScream has said that unstoppable wallets are good enough to be used as wallets that can store more than one coin.
So far, the unstoppable wallet is worthy of being a recommended wallet for users who want to store more than 1 crypto coin.
Apart from being easy and convenient, I think this wallet is reliable.

Unstoppable already supports 4 types of Bitcoin addresses, namely BIP 44 (Legacy), BIP 49 (SegWit), BIP 84 (Native Segwit), BIP 86 (Taproot).

1078  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pertimbangan Sebelum Berinvestasi Bitcoin - Untuk Pemula on: July 13, 2023, 06:50:35 PM
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Mengenai poin keenam, hal ini Ini sangatlah penting karena pasar kripto terkhususnya Bitcoin rentan terhadap penipuan dan aktivitas ilegal lainnya, sebagai calon investor penting untuk melakukan riset dan memilih exchange atau platform yang terpercaya untuk membeli dan menyimpan Bitcoin dengan mencari sumber informasi yang terverifikasi dan melakukan due diligence sebelum melakukan transaksi juga merupakan langkah yang bijak.
Saya rasa Bitcoin jauh dengan penipuan dari dulu sampai sekarang. Hal yang rentan terjadi penipuan terdapat pada jenis kripto lain dan bukan pada Bitcoin. Saya masih tidak sependapat apabila agan mengkhususkan untuk Bitcoin. Yang mengarah saya untuk sepakat perihal exchange.

Exchange yang dipilih untuk menghindari dari penipuan adalah exchange yang sudah terdaftar di Badan Pengawas Perdagangan Berjangka Komoditi (BAPPEBTI). Semua yang terdaftar disana tergolong sebagai exchange yang dapat diandalkan untuk melakukan jual beli bukan sebagai tempat untuk menyimpan Bitcoin.
Keputusan dalam memilih exchange meski sudah terdaftar disana ada pada masing-masing individu.
1079  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Where to invest 7k usdt on: July 13, 2023, 10:52:33 AM
Where to invest 7k usdt
To get profit daily 30$
Expecting $30 every day from 7k USDT, try day trading and spend your time for 24 hours watching the price chart to expect the profit you want to get every day.
You will get it but you will lose the happiness of being able to joke with your loved ones.

Invest in Bitcoin for the time period you want to set. You will get profits that may exceed your desired target and you can laugh happily with those you love.
At the earliest wait up to 1 year for the investment period in Bitcoin.
With a capital of 7k USDT you buy Bitcoin at the current price, I'm sure you will get twice the profit later.
1080  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pertimbangan Sebelum Berinvestasi Bitcoin - Untuk Pemula on: July 12, 2023, 06:04:41 PM
Proses untuk melahirkan sebuah topik bukanlah mudah seperti yang dilihat setelah ditampilkan dan saya sangat memahami situasi dimana kita harus berkelahi dengan diri kita sendiri meskipun tidak dilihat secara kasat mata.
Kesan pertama yang ingin saya katakan untuk OP adalah good job.

Poin demi poin yang agan sebutkan untuk dipertimbangkan oleh pemula dalam berinvestasi pada Bitcoin terurai dengan baik dimana semua poin itu menurut agan penting.
Mungkin ketika OP membaca ini saya mengarah kepada mereview, tetapi tidak.

Perihal menganalisa pasar, menggunakan metode DCA masih sangat relevan untuk dilakukan dalam berimvestasi Bitcoin karena investasi Bitcoin sangat jauh perbedaannya dengan berinventasi pada kripto lain (altcoin) yang memungkinkan untuk mempertimbangkan poin keenam (mewaspadai scam atau penipuan).
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