Are there any cell phone plans out there where you can pay with Bitcoins?

If not, would anyone be interested in such a plan?

All anonymous, you buy the phone yourself then get turned on to the cell phone plan paying with Bitcoins.

$250,000 in transactions, good to see that your hard work is getting some funding rolling.

With the PayPal credit card this is close to the point of being able to keep all of your money in Bitcoins then transfer it to the card when needed.

A good step, but the fees will keep it in the realm of a niche market.

I understand that PayPal fees suck, which is why Bitcoin is necessary. Hopefully the time will come when transfers will be cheap and quick.

What is this thing -> $ <- in your title???

When I saw the title of this thread I figured you were going on a trip and trying to get every location you go to to accept Bitcoin. So that people could then follow your lead and visit the same places.

I do think that giving the user the idea that this payment method is more secure, reliable and easy would help sell it.

Some thesaurus terms for secure:
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reliable:
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easy:
child's play, cinch*, clean, easy as pie, effortless, elementary, facile, incomplex, intelligible, light, lucid, manageable, mild, no problem, no sweat, not difficult, picnic, piece of cake, plain, quiet, self-explanatory, simple as ABC, smooth, snap*, straightforward, transparent, uncomplicated, uninvolved, unmistakable, untroublesome, walkover

Perhaps call it "Secure Open Pay"?

secureopenpay.com

This would actually make for a very easy way to exchange BTC for cash if you provided an option for "cash back".

Buy a pack of gum and ask for $20 cash back. They get the cost of the gum and $20 worth of BTC and you get the gum and cash.

Ok, thank you for the clarification. I need to do a bit more research on how things work at that level.

Ok, then this is where my understanding of Bitcoin has a hole in it.

When you download your wallet you get an address. You use that address to tell people where to send money to get it to you.

Does that address not correspond to what you then send to someone else?

I have seen one guy in my area accept BTC on craigslist.


I thought briefly that it would be a good idea to offer something very cheap and put in the ad that you only accept Bitcoin. But then drop the ad after enough people have figured out how to use Bitcoin.


Kinda wrong but it would get exposure.

I understand why this is done, you generate a new address for every order that goes through so that you can track that order.

But am I missing something here or could you not just have the customer input their own address into a field such as when they fill out their address. Then give them the same address that you use for all customers. Then you can track each order based upon the source address as opposed to generating a bunch of new addresses.

Is this feasible?

Or start a competing company that is better.

It is called the non-initiation of force.

If two people's ideals conflict. The moral person will be the one who does not initiate force upon the other.


You could love communism and I could love liberty. As soon as you see me make money and attempt to take that money, then you have committed the immoral act.

If I see you spread your wealth equally among your commune and I come in and force you to keep it all and not give it away, then that is the point of immorality.


And if everyone lived their lives with the goal of being self reliant, then there would be no one that would need society to take care of.

And to stifle one's self reliance is an act of stifling one's ability to live. You are basically attacking life and embracing death with every shot at anyone trying to get ahead. And in many ways, a lot of people just yearn for death and an end to human existence. That is their choice. That is something for you to deal with on your own, if you do not like life then embrace death on your own instead of trying to take everyone else down with you.

As for Ayn Rand...better to attack the person than the philosophy right?

And I do see how one's own well-being is dependent on the well-being of others. All boats rise with the tide. So if one person is able to make a buttload on a Bitcoin service and I start my own service and that person's buttload of Bitcoins gets others to use Bitcoin then I benefit. It would also encourage others to start their own Bitcoin businesses in order to prosper as well. And with that comes competition and better/cheaper services. So yes, someone making huge profits does contribute to my well-being.

Greed does not isolate, it leads us all to prosperity.

To not be greedy would mean that we do not work for reward. If you do not work for reward you will avoid work. If nobody works, we all die.

You mention that you will see an alias of the local users on the network and be able to scroll through and pay the right one.


Imagine I am at Joe's Pizza Place and he has his alias set up as JoesPizzaPlace.


Punk ass kid at the restaurant changes his alias to JoesPizzaPIace, or Joe'sPizzaPlace or J0ESPIZZAPLACE.

What is to prevent people from sending BTC to the wrong alias?

Ok good, because I would not want my vote to be considered as me thinking that "An IOU" is the worst and Bitcoin is best.

It would be a good experiment to find a small community where all of the merchants and the citizens could be given the tools and perhaps a few starter Bitcoins as a trial run and let Bitcoins take hold as their currency of choice.

The key would be that it has to be small enough where almost everyone in the community can be converted, they would likely need to be young and perhaps tech savvy, and they would have to do a fair amount of in-town spending of their money.

There are plenty of small redneck towns but they would likely reject anything new. Perhaps a small college community would be a good start, or something along those lines.

I was thinking along the lines of giving everyone a Bitcoincard once it comes out along with like 2 Bitcoins each to get things started.

I chose "An IOU" as the best and Bitcoin as the worst.

I hope that is reflected in the results correctly.

Is this an age verification or an non-American verification quiz?

That would make sense considering it would be much easier to convince a merchant to switch over if you could just say "download X software and you can start getting 0-1% transaction fees on certain transactions".


And it would certainly be useful for consumers by saying "download X software and start converting your dollars to Bitcoins to avoid needing to deal with banks and credit card companies".