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10721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 10:15:28 PM
A few gems about the special features that I have heard so much about.

What's your baseline for comparison? Oh that's right - all the other cryptocurrencies that can inherit all the work and broad testing that's gone into Bitcoin over the past 5.5 years. Makes perfect sense, carry on then.

Spoiler alert.






















Hypothesis 3 is accepted. Monero's developers are not capable of developing the coin

No need to wait for part 3 now. /thread

10722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 10:07:25 PM
Obviously a purchased Hero account right there.
So much scam.

Yeah it seemed suspicious to me as well due to the way that he posted. I just didn't want to point it out before checking his whole account, for which I do not have time (right now).
You might as well remove the trust that you put on him in this case.
Someone is trying to manipulate everything, luckily it's not working (for now).

LOL. Total communications failure here. I was referring to yours, and both he and I were engaging in parody. I thought it was obvious but you know how these things can go on the Internet.

Kozi is fine, not a purchased account, and worthy of trust AFAIK.

10723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 09:58:39 PM
Monero is very suspicious coin. I hear developer hardcode in 5 million xmr in their own wallets. Is it true???  Huh
Really? This is pure nonsense.
If the code is open source then you can't hardcode it into it and hide it from the others.
Obviously it's not true, stop believing rumors or spreading FUD; whichever you're trying to do.

Obviously a purchased Hero account right there.

So much scam.

Hypothesis 2 is accepted. Monero's trades are artificial.
10724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blowing the lid off the CryptoNote/Bytecoin scam (with the exception of Monero) on: August 26, 2014, 09:24:10 PM
Obvious also: Albert Einstein.

Don't you see? Their group hails from the "scientific community" as you have been told. You thought those science guys were dead, but in fact they were reincarnated by the aliens to collaborate with Satoshi Nakamoto and Cornel West on the creation of Bytecoin. It would take genius(es) of that magnitude to create such an amazing coin con.



10725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 09:20:20 PM
Something feels not right about this coin.

10726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 08:41:46 PM
Edit: Windows botnets are really a symptom of a much worse problem.

No, you have it wrong.

Windows botnets are not the fault of Microsoft, nor the fault of users who don''t maintain their computers properly.

They are entirely the fault of Monero devs, shills, and whales.

Got it?

10727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 07:27:30 PM

Coins $60/day volume don't even belong on a site with "top" altcoins. More like dead altcoins. Killed by the idiots who tried to use fraud to promote it. They could have been Monero, or bigger. That they are not must eat at their souls ever single day.





I'm seeing $4,500ish on coinmarketcap .. . .

$60 was quoted on this thread from the other day. But wow, $4500. Such volume.

10728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 07:10:47 PM

Coins $60/day volume don't even belong on a site with "top" altcoins. More like dead altcoins. Killed by the idiots who tried to use fraud to promote it. They could have been Monero, or bigger. That they are not must eat at their souls ever single day.



10729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
We need someone to create lyrics about this thread, then hire a singer and make a song about all this craziness. This has the potential to become zhoutonged material. I'm already ready to donate.

The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!

I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!

Yes, this has to be marketing for XMR, or at least CN. Intentionally creating a bit of buzz and mystery to this saga. Does a great job for proliferation of this tech

Yes, Cheesus, Hexah, and Rias are Monero shill accounts. You figured it out, congrats!

What we meant is that such an absurd thread is doing the reverse of what they are trying to achieve.

Exactly!

Here's a twisted theory though. What if Cheesus, Hexah, Rias, Wassnet, et. all are behind the botnets, they actually want to support XMR, not hurt it, and their effort here actually is intended to promote XMR?

It's absolutely brilliant!

In that case, I say, thank you guys! Just keep doing what you're doing.


10730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 05:55:02 PM
We need someone to create lyrics about this thread, then hire a singer and make a song about all this craziness. This has the potential to become zhoutonged material. I'm already ready to donate.

The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!

I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!

Yes, this has to be marketing for XMR, or at least CN. Intentionally creating a bit of buzz and mystery to this saga. Does a great job for proliferation of this tech

Yes, Cheesus, Hexah, and Rias are Monero shill accounts. You figured it out, congrats!
10731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 26, 2014, 05:41:15 PM

Guys, please do not continue to quote the same large chart on every post. Once per page is enough.

Future offenders will be deleted.

OP edited
10732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 05:30:41 PM
Why don' you just accept the fact that no one wants to use something that is 80+% pre mined and that trying to prop it up at the expense of XMR any longer is going to be nothing but a waste of effort?

Because scorched earth and the type of megalomanic who thinks he can pull off a hidden 82% premine by lying to the entire world creating a fake blockchain, fake documents, fake websites and organzations (cryptonote foundation? plua-ese), etc. to back it up is likely prone to anger when the world does not bow to his obvious greatness.

I appreciate their unintentional support though. Nobody attacks an unsuccessful coin. I don't even bother to try to educate people about the bytecoin fraud any more. It just isn't worth the effort for a $60/day coin.


10733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax on: August 26, 2014, 07:20:27 AM
Nice OP. I always thought there was something really wrong with XMR as the prices were too damn high for a clone coin.

Monero is a fork of Bytecoin, not a "clone."  The clone of Bytecoin is called Dash.  http://dashcoin.net/

The market is firmly indicating changes/innovations implemented by the Monero fork make it much more valuable than the original Bytecoin.

I don't know if it is all innovations, maybe some of it is.

A lot of it is just transparency, communication, trust, integrity, a team that is too large and diverse for any sort of scam or conspiracy theory to fly (though you know such attacks will be made anyway), a clean and fair launch, etc. Even if XMR were an exact clone of BCN code-wise, at this point I would still put my money on XMR doing better. A lot better. Of course it isn't limited to just being a clone, and your point is well taken on that score.

Engaging in fraud and creating a fake blockchain and fake documents to back that up does not serve as a solid foundation for a coin. Once you start down the road of lies and deception and that's all you'll ever have. There is no escape.

The BCN code was fine (or at least mostly fine), and served as a good starting point for XMR. The whole value system, strategy, and complete lack of integrity behind BCN was most certainly not fine. That, and that alone, got them exactly where they are.

10734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: August 26, 2014, 04:12:49 AM
Damn so many bad shares:2,750 in 24 horas  Angry  Monero...  Pool minergate

Is Normal   Huh

Contact the pool for support, or try another pool. This is not the pool support thread.
10735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: August 26, 2014, 04:07:39 AM
There have been already a lot of those proposals been made, most broken, like PoS. Please donīt use the world revolutionary without any proof. You already have a fully mined coin and a lot of imho unjustified hype, my question remains, why is BTCD needed if the "teleport" stuff works with Bitcoin?

My question about the PoW-to-PoS coins is what's the hurry. Even if you are convinced that PoS is the future and your coin should transition to PoS (I'm not, but let's assume that for now), why not make the PoW period longer, like a year or two (or five) and then transition to PoS? That would reduce concerns about the legitimacy of the launch or distribution while still resulting in the same long term "benefit" (if you want to believe) of PoS. So why not?



You can't lag behind the competition. If PoS is the future you have to be the first to use it.

That is a big if though.

It also assumes a fair launch and a distribution mechanism that is transparent and resistant to insider manipulation is unimportant. That is demonstrably false.

Although I will say that given the IPO, premine, instamine, insta-PoW-to-PoS, and other such questionable schemes that are well represented among the top tier coins now, one might reasonably question it.

Also, if you want to be the first to use it, you are already too late by a wide margin.
10736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: August 26, 2014, 03:36:14 AM
There have been already a lot of those proposals been made, most broken, like PoS. Please donīt use the world revolutionary without any proof. You already have a fully mined coin and a lot of imho unjustified hype, my question remains, why is BTCD needed if the "teleport" stuff works with Bitcoin?

My question about the PoW-to-PoS coins is what's the hurry. Even if you are convinced that PoS is the future and your coin should transition to PoS (I'm not, but let's assume that for now), why not make the PoW period longer, like a year or two (or five) and then transition to PoS? That would reduce concerns about the legitimacy of the launch or distribution while still resulting in the same long term "benefit" (if you want to believe) of PoS. So why not?

10737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: August 26, 2014, 03:31:07 AM


On the GUI, many in the broader user community may find the the third party GUI developed by Jojatekok to be sufficient. He's continued to put a lot of work in and definitely has a following. I can't try it myself because I'm a Windows free zone, but I would encourage others to test and give him constructive feedback.



Excuse my laziness, but do you have a link for this handy?

Thanks

Edited into post above
10738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: August 26, 2014, 03:20:03 AM
Hi, I just posted this over in the altcoin observer thread:

Can someone please have a look at this link and analyse it for us?

I recently came across this on the exchange poloniex chatbox because many users are saying how Bitshares has real anonymity and this does away with any need for Monero.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=687251.0

I want to know, is this for real? Or BitShares FUD?

It is a version of stealth addresses which is only part of the privacy solution in Monero. It provides unlinkability but not untraceability.

Furthermore it is my opinion that the basis for Monero (or any other reasonable coin) as a coin is infinitely more sound than BTSX. But that is just my opinion, do your own analysis and reach your own conclusions
10739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: August 26, 2014, 02:26:32 AM
Speaking of marketing, who else thinks looking into this might be a good idea (to reach the normal people who find this forum gives them hives)?

http://www.deepdotweb.com/advertise-on-deepdotweb/

I think it is premature to promote XMR to the broader user community.  Wait until the DB work is done and the core functions of the GUI wallet are in place.

Definitely DB, and definitely network improvements.

On the GUI, many in the broader user community may find the the third party GUI developed by Jojatekok to be sufficient. He's continued to put a lot of work in and definitely has a following. I can't try it myself because I'm a Windows free zone, but I would encourage others to test and give him constructive feedback.

EDIT: thread link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683365.0
10740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: August 26, 2014, 02:05:15 AM
With making offline wallets, is it fine if I continue to use older binaries?
My current offline computer is 32-bit, (upgrading in a few weeks) and I wanted to make sure that generating my .bin.keys is -always- fine to do on older binaries. Huh
My offline computer is still using binaries dating pre-mnemonic passphrase

let me know

PS: Dev Donation coming soon  Tongue
Keep up the good work! Grin

You can still use the old wallets and they are still recoverable (even pre-mnemonic) but I do recommend the mnemonic version -- much, much easier to secure your wallet for all time.
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