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10741  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We saw the bright side .. We did not see the dark side yet. on: August 29, 2017, 10:31:49 AM
I just dont see how it can ever get worse than that anymore.

I can. Bitfinex and Tether.

Gox was one weakened exchange, albeit a heavily loaded one. Tether has spread across all the alt markets too as well as driving BFX. The rise from $1000 coincided with the explosion in USDT being issued.

Bitfinex has a history of creating junk tokens, talking out of their ring piece and never answering straightforward questions. Maybe it'll all be fine. I'm far from convinced. The parallels with Gox are screaming in our faces.
10742  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is it safe to encrypt your private keys with BIP38 and bitaddress.org? on: August 29, 2017, 10:27:37 AM
If you are 100% sure your computer is safe from spyware...

It makes far more sense to do it with a machine that'll never see the internet again. You can get something that'll do the job for $20. If you ever do need to access the internet again with it just give it a comprehensive wipe.

It's far more reassuring doing all your crypto stuff on something you know can't possibly leak.
10743  Economy / Speculation / Re: Legendary Bitcoin Trader “masterluc” Predicts $15,000 Bitcoin This Year on: August 29, 2017, 10:18:42 AM
I don't think it will. By hitting $15k it would really take something much more than just a fork gone right. It would mean that at least 5% of the world is using bitcoin, which it currently is not. We have made tons of progress but not that much to push us over $10k yet.

5% of the world getting in would probably push the price into the high tens of thousands or more.

There are maybe 10-20 million people involved now, and that might be extremely optimistic. That's 0.13-0.26% of the world's population.
10744  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading cryptocurrency for cryptocurrency without identity verification? on: August 29, 2017, 09:45:01 AM
I believe Kraken is an option too for small amounts.

I wouldn't enter one of these exchanges fully expecting to stay ID free forever though. There are endless examples of people having withdraws frozen until they provide docs.

You're playing on their platform and their rules. Eventually no ID will be a thing of the past everywhere other than decentralised options. The Man is closing in.
10745  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 28, 2017, 10:10:12 PM
So does anyone suspect BCH is a ploy to preserve BTC mining profitability too? There'll be a drop in difficulty and if BCH limps on they may be able to keep a lid on BTC difficulty for a fair old while.
10746  Economy / Economics / Re: Next "dot-com bubble"? on: August 28, 2017, 04:44:42 PM
This may well be a bubble, but it's absolutely nowhere near the dotcom bubble. It'll be a footnote in history compared to that.

The dotcom bubble sucked in an army of institutional investors, funds and private individuals. At present crypto has barely sniffed a cent of the real money out there. It's still the province of outliers and weirdos despite the noise.

As for the original question, I'd say USDT's dollar backing being properly questioned, tested and failing would be the catalyst for a monster of a fall. That's underpinned Bitcoin's rise and the alt bubble and it was put together by a bunch of ramshackle blaggers with a track record of concealment.
10747  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese never seizes to amaze on: August 28, 2017, 04:39:16 PM
Surely the moment to do this was 2009, not these days. It doesn't matter how many devices there are, they'll be outgunned into oblivion by industrial operations.

It will perhaps start to make sense again when the block reward is far lower and the main benefit of mining is collecting fees but even then it'll probably be fully corporate by then.
10748  Economy / Speculation / Re: Legendary Bitcoin Trader “masterluc” Predicts $15,000 Bitcoin This Year on: August 28, 2017, 12:39:24 PM
So you're speaking about the USDT car wash token I'd guess right!?
I've read several blog posts about that and if it's turned out to be true, well it could get really ugly.

Indeed. It's ever so slightly fishy that this run started off almost to the minute that their USD banking ended and the amount of USDT started swelling from $10 million to now well over $300 million.

They keep going on about 'institutional investors' moving 7-8 figures daily in and out of Tether. What 'institutional investor' in their right mind would deal with a company with that track record and Tether's terms and conditions? They've outright said that they bank like criminals, ducking and diving to stay ahead of everyone.

It's going to be worse than Gox if it turns out to be true. Bitfinex has a habit of killing rallies either through incompetence or outages. This one might be their crowning achievement.

This is a relevant thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6uarbw/so_whats_the_subs_opinion_on_this_finex_and/

There's a BFX employee on there who basically doesn't address a single concern with anything resembling facts.
10749  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Exchange to buy BTC with a credit card in GBP on: August 28, 2017, 12:32:45 PM
http://bittybot.co/uk/buy-bitcoins-uk/

According to that you can do it with Coinbase, inside Blockchain,info, Bittylicious, Coinjar, Safello and some nutter on Localbitcoins charging £11,000 per coin.

Click on the 'payment type' bar to filter it.

10750  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-08-26] Costa Rica Will Soon Have its First Bitcoin ATM on: August 28, 2017, 12:26:18 PM
It just goes to show how far there is yet to go when there are still entire countries only now getting their first ATM.  And according to that there are six of them on an entire continent.
10751  Economy / Speculation / Re: Legendary Bitcoin Trader “masterluc” Predicts $15,000 Bitcoin This Year on: August 28, 2017, 12:21:36 PM
It would mean that bitcoin is at around $300 billion in market cap.

So what? Do you really think market cap means anything at all?

Reaching that price is down to a few thousand sellers and buyers on a handful of exchanges. Nothing else commands the price.

And the rise from $1000 was probably created by Bitfinex pumping it with non existent money anyway.
10752  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The legality of starting a Bitcoin business in Europe on: August 28, 2017, 12:09:35 PM
This is an interesting question.

Bitstamp claim they're regulated across Europe with this - https://www.bitstamp.net/payment-institution-license/

Which I've never heard of anywhere else. Ever.

EU should be harmonised but the demise of Localbitcoins in Germany only suggests that might not be the case.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=886598.0;all

Kraken operates everywhere but it also seems they don't give much of a shit about regulation. Maybe you should contact the main EU operations like bitonic.nl and bitcoin.de and ask them.
10753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Miners break NY Agreement one month now and already fork Bitcoin on: August 28, 2017, 11:49:34 AM
For me it's just proof that bitcoin has long ceased to be decentralized. It will always be when there is a monopoly. Users of bitcoin should have the opportunity without the help of miners to conduct transactions as it was in the beginning. Bitcoin will always be volatile while this system will not be back. No one should have a significant impact on the life of the system.

There've always been miners. The difference between now and the early days is that back then miners were also users. That's not really the case any more and never will be again.

It's a sorry, but inevitable, state of affairs. If there ever is to be a 'Bitcoin killer' addressing centralisation will have to be the number one priority.
10754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 28, 2017, 11:43:02 AM
Me too, please stop all this racist shit. I support free speech but can someone make a racism thread so that all the racists can just hang out there and be racist somewhere else?

I've suggested a bigot sub forum in the past where people can hate on womenz, jews and benders amongst their like minded friends. It wasn't taken up.
10755  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 27, 2017, 10:09:37 PM
^^why is this forum so obsessed with jews? ffs.

Is there really any point in asking this any more? It's as baked into its fabric as google translate posts, and dishonesty.

Assume everyone here is anti semitic and bake a cake for your local rabbi.
10756  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: Mycelium Bitcoin Wallet on: August 27, 2017, 08:09:38 PM
So are there any rumblings of them working on Segwit? They don't seem to be the most communicative of people at the moment. I fancy becoming a cool kid.
10757  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do u agree that Bitcoin will go to 500,000$ in 2020 by john Macafee claim ? on: August 26, 2017, 10:46:25 PM
I didn't know John MacAfee married a hooker who appears to be even more out of it than he is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxuxNFtsrCU

Good luck to the pair of them anyway. I truly wonder where his life will head next.
10758  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 26, 2017, 08:15:57 PM
just kill me now

By then there'll be an app where you can summon one of her drones to erase you for a modest fee.
10759  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 26, 2017, 08:06:54 PM


I think we'll have to wait for Malia Obama to become president before that happens. Or Snoop Dogg.
10760  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 26, 2017, 05:01:17 PM
wtf is going on with Monero?
 Huh Huh

It's about to be listed in Korea. They're the new king of degenerate pumps. Expect a fine fall once they've had their fun.
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