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10741  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Investing all my savings! on: October 24, 2017, 11:02:47 AM
Do you have stable job or bussiness to support you if you have strong financial crisis ? do you afford to lose it all ? do you understand the risk of investing in cryptocurrency ? If your answer is all no please I am begging you stop it don't make uour life miserable , thou high risk will give you higher returns but are you willing to take the consequence if things that you expect did not happen ? 🙂

Exactly. We all have our old saying here: "Invest what you can afford to lose". But it looks like the OP is investing all his hard earn money so all of us makes us wonder what if the things didn't work on his favor? What will happened to him in the future. Its a high risk investment specially the altcoin and I strongly advise you not to invest on them short term. If I have that kind of money I will go for bitcoin and just hodl on it minimum 2 years only and then revisit it after that. We don't know what will the future holds for us, but amongst the coins you mentioned its only bitcoin that has a really bright future specially for the long haul.
10742  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin can drop 2000$ before end of this year on: October 24, 2017, 09:40:37 AM
Can bitcoin fall 2000$ before 2018?
 
I am logical . possible Because it can not control the dump of bitcoin if it comes
But by look at the Most comments bitcointalk.org . No
No, I am not expecting this. $2000 is just too low to hit before the year ends. I am even expecting bitcoin to rise after the fork. It will probably reach up to $7000 this year! This kind of thread makes people panic and dump bitcoins.We should not make more threads like this. This is ridiculous.

Just like everyone here, I can't really see bitcoin prices falling down to $2000 or even $3000 because its gonna be too low that everyone will likely buy a lot of bitcoins with that price. So I doubt it can go lower even for 1 days. So its not only ridiculous but seems illogical as well. See the price today, its almost $5600 from as high as $6000. But I'm positive that after everything has settled down with his Bitcoin Gold situation, the price of bitcoin will go up again in no time and investors putting solid cash in the ecosystem once more.
10743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Have you make money from ICO? on: October 24, 2017, 08:58:25 AM
I make money from ICO bounty campaign.
I quit investing to ICO  a long time ago.

This is true. I'm lucky that I found a good bounty before and I feel I'm lucky before I got a lot of money. Well not a lot but I didn't expect that much money because I'm still a jr member then. So I'm very lucky and happy. However, as far as investment is concern, I haven't really put money because I'm afraid that the ICO would just run my money. I don't want to take that risk, but sometimes I regret my decision. So if I'm given a chance to join a good project with a good bounty campaign offer, I will take it anytime.
10744  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hitbtc seems to be in good shape on: October 24, 2017, 08:36:42 AM
HitBTC Launches SegWit2x Futures Trading, Confirms Support for Bitcoin Gold HitBTC, one of the top 5 exchanges by volume, has enabled 3 new markets to trade the upcoming SegWit2x hardfork futures against BTC, ETH and USDT, also announces its support towards Bitcoin Gold that will go live in late October. https://t.co/77CmI8THd7 that will makes hitbtc more good due to the community of bitcoin gold will trade it on there.

OK I'm glad they decided to support  Bitcoin Gold because it will really benefit them and the community as well. I still have a few tokens deposited on them and I don't have any issues so far. And I agree with what you said, it will really bring good to our community to trade and used their trading platform. I just hope that support will be great as this is one of the factors that people are looking at.
10745  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Next SegWit in November? 494784 on: October 24, 2017, 04:06:54 AM
Can't really predict mate. Bitcoin market has so volatile lately that no amount of graphs or TA is applicable. Just today, bitcoin is down like 5% already because people who have claimed their free bitcoin gold has shifted back to altcoin as evident of ETH gain 3% now and other Altcoin as well getting green. I'm waiting for investors to dump and put it back to bitcoin but its not yet happening. Basing on today's price, maybe $6500 will the top that we can get on this looming Segwit2x in November.
10746  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-10-23] Saudi Prince Al-Waleed: Bitcoin Is 'Going to Implode' on: October 24, 2017, 03:27:11 AM
With all the wealth he has, I think it doesn't make sense for him to criticized bitcoin. However, bitcoin is now very popular, every individual has its very opinion on it. hahahaha. Every one that you are going to interview has something to say about bitcoin. I hope you are not investing on it Price, otherwise you are just getting into the popularity and riding with it all along. We can understand Dimon's attack because he is a bankers, but you sir with your billions of pesos just sitting everywhere, doesn't makes sense to bash bitcoin at your level.
10747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: is Vertcoin actually worth a longterm investment or are people shilling? on: October 24, 2017, 01:12:57 AM
hard to tell the shills from people who are really excited about it.  Some say it's just like Litecoin.  What are your thoughts?

I'm sorry but I think Vertcoin is already a sinking ship. Yes, I agree the coin has been in existence for quite some time now, but it didn't enjoy any support from the community. The price is just above $2 now. I think if it has gotten support, if should also be around $50. But sadly it didn't and I doubt that its better for long term hold. I'm not totally sold on this coin, just another one of them in the market that will be used for simply pump and dump by the market manipulators from behind.
10748  Economy / Speculation / Re: everyone says Bitcoin will tank after Gold fork. What if it's opposite? on: October 23, 2017, 11:39:55 PM
what if instead, people sell their bitcoin gold and use the funds to buy more bitcoin?  Cool

Here's are three possible scenario's that I can think of during the fork:

[1] dump their bitcoin gold immediately and buy more bitcoins. - Resulting on bitcoin price not tanking and even go higher.
[2] hold on their bitcoin gold - bitcoin price will tank a few percentage
[3] dump their bitcoin gold and go back to altcoin - bitcoin price will tank but altcoin market will flourish after the bloodshed.
10749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: 💲💲 Bitcoin Gold already airdropped on Yobit !!💲💲 on: October 23, 2017, 03:28:21 PM
And its now even trading BTG / BTC in their trading platform....

Its looks like they want to be the first to really accepts a coin that hasn't been mined yet? And they said that} BTC deps/wds will be disabled in 21 hrs." as per twitter accounts.

Why is it listed already when the hard fork have not occurred yet?

Seems a scam happening right now.
No its just pre token they are giving to bitcoin holders before actual fork and if I am remembering correctly they have done samething during august fork. They have already disabled both bitcoin and bitcoin gold deposit/withdrawal so that they can claim bitcoin gold during actual fork from user's balances. But I don't prefer to trade in yobit because their support is shit.

So they give users who own BTC before the fork a digital credit on their internal ledgers, before the fork has happened?

Those are not actual Bitcoin Gold, just a entry on their internal system? So by the time BTC fork, they will extract the actual

Bitcoin Gold and sell it at a higher price. Is this what is happening...  Huh Roll Eyes

Exactly. I think they did it with Bitcoin Cash before, so its no surprise that they have did it with Bitcoin Gold today. I don't have any Bitcoin on Yobit though, I would rather put my Bitcoin on a wallet that I have total control of my private keys. Besides this Bitcoin Cash will be dumped so hard in the first day. Not interested.
10750  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price down on yobit, btg no trading on: October 23, 2017, 02:36:49 PM
So the btc price has taken a bit of a dive on Yobit when the btg trading opened up. Does anythink that the prices will come down on other exchanges like this?

I honestly didn't think btg would move the price of btc at all.

A lot of people seem to expect that bitcoin gold will cause the price of BTC to fall, simply because people are holding BTC to get free BTC gold. Once they've got it they'll move their money away from bitcoin.

Most likely this the scenario that we are seeing right now. Yobit announcement earlier giving free bitcoin gold push the price to ATH, and it looks like they are selling bitcoin gold now and taking it somewhere else, either cashing it out or going back to altcoin market. But I don't think that they are going to altcoin becaus they are still bleeding. I suspected that most of them are just holding bitcoin gold now and not yet dumping it. I'll expecting that bitcoin will recover again tomorrow at $6000 or above once more.
10751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Newbie for signiture campaign [BOUNTY] on: October 23, 2017, 01:11:26 PM
I want to join signiture campaign. Is that posible to join?

Sorry to inform you that its not possible to join any bounty with a newbie rank. They are not accepting for the simply fact that you still have to gain knowledge first about altcoins/bitcoins before they would allow you to join. Maybe in a twitter or facebook campaign, If I'm not mistaken there's one that accepts newbie before but I can't remember what campaign is was. Its easy to rank up from newbie to Jr Member though. So just wait till you at least reach Jr. Member rank to be able to join campaigns. Goodluck to you and have patience mate.
10752  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin $250000 by 2020 if the seven year trend continues on: October 23, 2017, 12:01:50 PM
If we continue this phase, then its likely to get to this price in the next 3 years. But can it be done? There are lot of factors that we need like mass adoption, no negative news, people demanding more and others. But can all this factors works on our way? There will come a time that growth will suddenly hit a blank wall. So as much as I'm very bullish about the market, but the prediction can't be reached by 2020. Its not always parabolic and there will be a lot of challenges and setbacks that will pull the price at certain point in time.
10753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: IMF response about Bitcoin on: October 23, 2017, 11:13:45 AM
The IMF (International Monetary Fund) said a few days ago that bitcoin is very dangerous because it can disrupt global financial stability. What do you think about the IMF's response ?

I think the is right, it can disrupt it but I don't think in a dangerous way. I think its the other way around, bitcoin will disrupt it in a positive way. Look at how it affect the lives of others, specially third based country, we found bitcoin as other way to earn money. They don't want it because their business of giving loans to third world country will diminished, that's why we see another entity attacking bitcoin because they are being threaten. And besides, they have not business whatsoever to attack something they don't believed or fully understand.
10754  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-10-23] Astronaut - Platform to facilitate ICO investments on: October 23, 2017, 10:28:16 AM
I don't know how successful this kind of ICO's but it looks like its very different kind of project. We all know that there are a lot of scams ICO lately, and this kind of project could somehow mitigate the risk of you investing in a scam. I'm sure that its has a good motive so most likely it can gain a traction in the community. Let's see how it goes it this project could really succeed on its own. I like the idea of really of understanding the Whitepaper, because usually this is the first sign that a project is a scam. If they can read between the lines, they can advise they clients not to invest on that portfolio based on the Whitepaper alone.

Quote
“Our view is that organizations such as Picolo Research and Astronaut need to be established to critique the merits of upcoming ICOs to ensure that the blockchain ecosystem is not tainted by those who are taking advantage of it for personal financial gain.”
10755  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Hathaway's summary: Bitcoin is Garbage on: October 23, 2017, 09:04:07 AM
I don't know why we should pay attention to such so called experts that are spreading false information about Bitcoin. Don't know what is the purpose of it except that these are ordered articles or statements by some interest groups but they forget that Bitcoin has come too far to be damaged by such statements just like that. And this one has become just before the fork.

They are really funny indeed. They look collective and calm and seems that they have a lot of expertise with the subject matter. But when this so called experts open their mouth, you can't help it but to laugh as their understanding. That's why I stayed away from them, they are all garbage talkers and the only thing that they can do is to ride on the popularity of bitcoin now and claimed to be an expect. Their have the right to express their opinion, but we don't have any time to value it because it has really no substance. I'm not saying I'm an expect, but please you should at least say something based of facts.
10756  Economy / Speculation / Re: Which is the exactly time for Bittrex Bitcoin Gold snapshot? on: October 23, 2017, 07:12:47 AM
block height 491,407 is true

you can see the first line in the readme file: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/blob/master/README.md
or you can see this height on the chainparams: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/blob/574a6e546dc5cf712f4299a05f2646a05dabc839/src/chainparams.cpp#L97

So the exact time will depend on the block height when it reached 491407, it could be on 25th oct or 24th oct, or even on 23th Oct?

I think Yes, there's not exact time frame and its based on block 491407. I remember during the Aug 1 split, I was up to witness the first blocked for Bitcoin Cash, but the event came nearly 6 hours after 478,558. It could happen on Oct. 25 but the exact time will not be certain. So I guess I need to wake up and watch history unfolds one more. Grin. Anyone also during the same?

10757  Bitcoin / Press / [2017-10-22]To the Moon – Or Bust? Questions to Ask When Evaluating ICOs on: October 23, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
To the Moon – Or Bust? Questions to Ask When Evaluating ICOs

Before bitcoin came along, I was a financial advisor for many years. So I really don't like to see people make foolish decisions that cost them a lot of money.

Clearly, digital assets are here to stay. The opportunity is exciting, but we should also be concerned about the rampant proliferation of low-quality offerings and scams.

To make things worse, digital assets don't even have a common set of criteria by which we evaluate them. With public companies, we can compare earnings, balance sheets and other similarly calculated metrics. For digital assets, there might not even be a balance sheet; you might be making a donation to a non-profit or purchasing an API key.

There is a need for a uniform set of criteria that people can to evaluate the merit of various assets. To help investors sort the rare gems from the abundance of junk, I’ve made a simple tool called Spacesuit X for analyzing the investment merits of coins, tokens, ICOs and similar projects.

What is it?

Spacesuit X is a rating scale of 0–100 which is based on an acronym for 10 categories that investors and analysts might consider regarding tokens, coins and ICO offerings. The tenth category is “X Factor” which allows analysts to assign their own criteria for evaluation....

https://www.coindesk.com/moon-bust-questions-ask-evaluating-icos/
10758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: All coins are now dying, what do you think? on: October 23, 2017, 02:22:53 AM
No they are not dying, but taking a beating because bitcoin price is going up. Almost altcoin traders are moving to bitcoin simply because they want to get airdrop for bitcoin gold. But once this is over, altcoin again will see a nice pump. No need to worry though because you don't want to sell your coins in this situation. The best thing is right now is just hodl on your altcoin and don't think to sell it because you can't covered your loss with the current price of almost all altcoin. Just wait after Oct. 25 and observed the movement of your altcoin. I'm confident that some of them will really have a nice price because the free bitcoin gold will also be going to altcoin market.
10759  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC to 7k before fork? on: October 23, 2017, 01:51:14 AM
Initially, I thought that bitcoin can go as high as $7K however, with the recent movement, its been a see saw battle to overcome $6200. And now we see another dip and bitcoin is hovering just around ~$6000. So I doubt that in 2 days there will be a push of $1000. Although it has happened before during the Aug 1 split, a day before the split the price quickly moved from $1900-$2900 in 24 hours. But it looks like that everyone has already put their money on the market and its already price in for the Oct. 25. I think the farther we can get is just $6200. But it is still strong and good price if you are going to look at it from the outside.
10760  Economy / Economics / Re: Electronic Money vs. Physical Money on: October 22, 2017, 02:44:37 AM
Hi guys, I just want to know your views and opinion about the difference in Electronic Money (Bitcoin and others) and the Physical Money. Many people now a days are still confuse about the existence of the Bitcoin and how it differ from our Physical Money that we are using to buy necessity. I hope we could share and learn from each other.  Wink Smiley

Maybe a simple explanation will be that a Electronic money is non-tangible, and its being used to pay usually in online transactions. While you used the traditional fiat (physical) to buy physical things like in a groceries or other stuff non online. I don't see any confusion here as its very easy to distinguished the two. Both has its advantage over the other. But for me its better to used them both depending on the situation, and we don' need to debate whether one is better, they have their own used in our society.

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