That's very cool. I just read about CommitCoin as well…also very cool. Your point about alternative uses of the block chain being important for bitcoin is a good one as well.
In reading about CommitCoin, a thought occurred to me…sending a small amount of coins to one of these hash addresses loses those coins…however, I wonder if it's possible to include an output of a transaction with 0 coins going to it…all the other coins can just be sent back to a change address. With a transaction fee, the transaction itself shouldn't be considered spammy (and a transaction fee for the miners would be quite appropriate considering you're using their services to put a timestamp on something).
Excellent stuff.
Sending .00000001 BTC would not be much of a loss. You could have a full nationwide election and only lose 1 BTC. This adds 1BTC worth of value to the rest of the Bitcoins in use. And the divisibility can always be extended down the line as has been brought up numerous times.
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While I love the idea of being able to verify your vote...it has not been verifiable for a reason.
The ability to verify your vote opens the door to being able to prove that you voted one way or another.
Being able to prove that you voted one way or another opens the door to someone paying you to vote one way or another and then being able to show proof that you did so.
Or even worse, a government with enough power to have a vote and then "check" to make sure you voted "correctly".
The ideal voting machine is an open source software that allows you to vote in the voting booth, then get an easily read receipt showing clearly how you voted. You take that receipt over to a box and you put that receipt into the box.
You have an electronic vote that is cast with a back up ballot box that can verify that vote.
Sure, you may say "paying someone to vote is illegal" and try to fix the problem there. But tampering with votes is already illegal, so why would you need to come up with a better system if you trust the law to take care of such things?
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Check out this site for resources on product placement. http://www.erma.org/productsearchPerhaps a donation page can be set up to try to get Bitcoin into another TV show or movie. I would have loved to comment further on this, Elwar, but I'm having a hard time getting my head wrapped around as to how ERMA operates. Would you be so kind as to offer up how ERMA and getting Bitcoin mentioned into another TV show are connected? ~Bruno~ ERMA appears to be a networking site for various placement agencies and companies. It looks like they are trying to standardize the methodology of it. It costs $350 for membership giving access to the community. Or you can go directly to a placement agency.
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If anyone would like to have a local currency, let me know and I can help you design and print it (or print it for you).
Here is a cute little work around:
Create a web/cell phone based currency, and just rebrand bitcoins as "New Yorkians" (if you are in New York). You could make a New Yorkian worth the same as 0.1 bitcoins, the client will name it as a New Yorkian, but really bitcoins would be transacted on the backend (whatever the transaction is divided by 10).
Little will they know that their currency isn't as local and restricted as they expected.
Good idea, I was thinking a bit along those lines for a local website that allows merchants to exchange the currency. Even though it is actually just another BTC exchange at BTC/dollar rates. Once the currency catches on the transition to actual Bitcoin would be easy for locals.
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Check out this site for resources on product placement. http://www.erma.org/productsearchPerhaps a donation page can be set up to try to get Bitcoin into another TV show or movie.
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You guys realize this show is fiction, not a documentary.
Whhhhaaaa???!!!!??!?
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Bitcoin will end hunger and poverty.
Bitcoin will empower the people over their governments thus allowing for people to succeed in the absence of the oppression brought on by force of tyrannical government control which is empowered by creating power/money out of thin air.
Theoretically, what would change your mind (i.e. convince you otherwise)? Theoretically... Prove to me that humans seek pain and avoid reward.
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Was this show supposed to be on tonight? Did anyone see it?
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Bitcoin will end hunger and poverty.
Bitcoin will empower the people over their governments thus allowing for people to succeed in the absence of the oppression brought on by force of tyrannical government control which is empowered by creating power/money out of thin air.
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You may want to add something about how divisible it is....
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I would love to have a coin and bill based currency localized to my town where the idea caught on that using the money locally would spur the local economy and keep the spending local.
Perhaps casacius types of coins and bills with the town name on it to give locals a sense of pride in using it.
It could be introduced at the local chamber of commerce and merchants could be encouraged to use it.
Then maybe have some drawings paid in USD and the winner wins a set amount of local BTC bills to spend at local merchant locations.
There is a radio show I listen to that holds caller raffles and the winner gets "JB bucks" to spend at local merchant locations who also donate a few bucks each week toward the promotion.
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This conversation was my absolute favorite... The guy on camera right was very concerned about how Bitcoin was a scam, monopoly money, had no value, and was having a real hard time understanding how transactions occurred at the customer/merchant level. The conversation was getting louder and louder and approaching an uncomfortable level at which point the older guy in the middle, we called "the money man" of the group, left. The guy on the right continued for a little bit but gave up and left too. The guy on camera left stuck around and watched the demo bit-pay had for their mobile checkout and pay card stuff. About an hour later, the guy on the right came back to the booth with bitcoins in his eyes and full of excitement. He finally got it and was tossing these ideas around in his head about how he could start using Bitcoin in his business. It was a very rewarding experience to be a part of. Fun times. Tony sent this photo to me just now, with email subject: "Bitcoin booth is overflowing into the aisle!" In other words...loud ignorant guy scares off three people then loud guy comes back less ignorant three people still scared off
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I was going through a drive through behind a nice car with a tag that mentioned the guy went to law school. When it was time to pay he flipped the card to the guy in a way that was if to say "I have the super platinum high roller card". He was obviously impressed by himself and his fancy credit card.
This would actually be a good way to get things rolling if it could catch on. Make paying with Bitcoin something reserved for the elite such as having an American Express black card.
Then when you pay with Bitcoin and someone sees it they will have the obvious question of "what is this Bitcoin thing and how do I get my hands on some?"
One way to push this would be to have a Bitcoin company that buys some of the most exclusive things (front row concert tickets, high end tech, penthouse suites, etc...) then have them only available for purchase with Bitcoins.
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The Bitcoin price has always been a good way to determine the future google trends...
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Perfection.
Anyone can accept Bitcoins as payment now.
You guys have the BTC acceptance down pat.
If we could get to the point where it is that easy to convert dollars to BTC it would be revolutionary.
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There is also the announcement that bit-pay will be allowing people to buy Bitcoins at the CES trade show using credit cards.
They will need to buy a large amount of bitcoins in order to ensure that they have enough for the show.
That is one place where they are going.
I had personally jumped out a long time ago when it crashed below $4. I jumped out because I was setting up a buy around $1.
I jumped back in because I knew that there was enough going on that the price was primed for a possible jump the likes of June's $30 rally.
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Sold at $7.20
I figured that all of the new activity would bring in the weekend lull as new investors get the realization of no new money coming in while the banks are closed.
It usually picks up again Monday toward the end of the business day.
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How very nice. A bunch of 19th century chuckleheads trying to bring back a glorious past that never actually existed
This is like saying that Bitcoin is a bunch of gold bugs trying to bring back something that never worked in the first place. I call bullshit on that one. Bitcoin is 100x better than gold... Hence the comparison. Ron Paul does not want to take us "back" to something in the 19th century, he wants to take us FORWARD to something BETTER based on the principles which were usurped. Ron Paul does not want to take us "back" to the gold standard. He wants to take us FORWARD to competing currencies which would include Bitcoin and all sorts of currencies that all compete to fill their own niches.
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You cannot legislate morality.
Morality is different to all people.
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