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10841  Economy / Economics / Re: Friends reactions to crypto currencies? on: September 14, 2018, 04:01:09 AM
I was questioned on crypto currencies legalization. I explained the facts happening around. Few received it with convincing reactions and few just ignored it. I really felt bad for the guys who did not care about crypto currencies as I really know the fruitfulness? I happily taught few others about crypto currencies. What was your friends expression when you introduced bitcoin to them?
their reaction are they think it is illegal because of this job are scam that is the most comments or reaction about this

I think people out there still thinking that bitcoin will scam them and this makes them too afraid to invest their money in cryptocurrency. but I don't think that it happens with all people because I see that some of my friends want to invest in crypto especially in bitcoin and I told them to not use money that they use for buying their needs and I tell them to use the free money. they can accept the reason and they decide to buy some bitcoin with the free money they have and they don't use to trade or anything, they just save the bitcoin in their wallet.
10842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The bulls will run Q4 2018. Thoughts? on: September 14, 2018, 02:48:00 AM
Perhaps we won't see an increase as rapid as we did at the end of last year. I think those fringe crypto people that invested when Bitcoin was nearing $20,000 will have learned from it. I bet some of them lost a huge amount of money.

but we still have a chance to see the price will increase although maybe it will difficultly to reach $20,000 like the last year. and I think if the price can go up to $10,000-$15,000 until the end of the year, it will bring a good profit for us especially for people who are buying in more than $10,000. but still, we are almost at the end of this year, so everything can be possible and we can hope that the price will increase high. and the price now is trying to reach the higher price and still changing.
10843  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: LIKE IT OR NOT, BITCOIN IS AN INVESTMENT on: September 14, 2018, 01:47:43 AM
for me, bitcoin is an investment and also a new currency. you can save your bitcoin for a long-term, and you can make a big profit when the price is up. and you can also use bitcoin for buying something on the internet although right now, not many online stores which use bitcoin as their payment. the benefits of bitcoin as the investment is we can sell when the exchange price of bitcoin to local fiat is high and I think it's the same as gold as the investment.
10844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Really! Where is the fun at? on: September 13, 2018, 05:23:30 AM
The pleasure lies in the art of gambling itself, I usually gamble on soccer how happy it is when the team we hold scores goals and we can see the moody facial expressions of our opponents and it makes me very happy. the problem of winning or losing is already at risk from playing gambling.

yes, I agree with you but some gambler cannot see the pleasure from the gambling itself because they only think about how they can win a big money which even they cannot get it besides of losing their money. and if they still stay in the gambling for a long-term, then they can lose all of their money and finally, they will lose the fun and the money in the same time.
10845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What cryptocurrency would you engage to gamble in? on: September 13, 2018, 04:22:16 AM
I can see some gambling sites before that uses doge instead of bitcoin but for me xlm is the best cryptocurrency we can use in gambling its fast, easy to deal with and of  course transaction fee is almost free I dont know if there are online sites that uses this coin at the moment maybe in the future we can see.

I never try to use xlm as the bet, and I don't know where the gambling sites that were using xlm to enter the game. I am better to use dogecoin instead of bitcoin because dogecoin is one of the cheaper coins besides of rdd and this two coin is good for gambling. but sometimes I use rdd too if I have a free rdd in my wallet. but no matter what coin you use for gambling, you still need luck inside the games so you can get the win and get the money.
10846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Addiction Stories! on: September 13, 2018, 03:21:34 AM
I remember that i was addicted to gambling i spent my all time in casino and i earn some money from gambling from that i became addicted and i spent my all money in gambling however it goes on i lost my all money in gambling farther i realized that i am wasting my time my money and all focus on gambling then i quite gambling and i suggest all that don't play gambling please don't wast your time and money it is big lost of life...

and if you can think that playing gambling can waste your time and you can get lost the money, you need to learn how to stop and quit gambling. no matter it is hard, you need to always try to stop playing gambling and I am sure that in the end, you can avoid playing gambling and you can use your time for the other things which can give you another benefit. it is better to focus in another field so we can have a chance to produce something useful for our life.
10847  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you still belive in Crypto ? on: September 13, 2018, 02:21:05 AM
I know its a silly question looking for what is happening with market and like everybody i still think if even this year will be bad the next one should be better and even then crypto is still young (except bitcoin but what is 10 years). Do you guys still belive in alt and bitcoin? And im asking about technology not only a price couse price is ambivalent if we focus on technology

I still believe in bitcoin and altcoin, maybe the market now cannot increase higher but I am sure that it will get up again in the future and I think we need a good time to increase back. the technology of blockchain still in the development and there are many other projects that will release by using blockchain technology or smart-contract so, in the future, cryptocurrency will grow more than now. the price itself will change to the higher price and when it happens, all cryptocurrency price will increase higher.
10848  Economy / Economics / Re: market refresh or just a pump ? on: September 13, 2018, 01:20:53 AM
I guess the market is getting a pump for a while because of the price increase for a little price and I see bitcoin is also increasing too. but for daily, the trends still in the down area and perhaps, in a few days later, we will see an increase of the price because I see we are at the bottom and it's ready to swing up again. but if there are many people cannot hold their bitcoin and just panic, then the price cannot increase higher even for just $50. I hope that in the next weeks, there is a changing trend in the market so we will see the higher price.
10849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How did you feel about your first payment???? on: September 13, 2018, 12:13:03 AM
the first payment is always made happy for every people because they feel "aha, now I can make money and I need to get work harder to earn more money". I feel happy too when I can earn my first payment and makes me want to learn more about the things I did so I can earn more money. maybe at that time, the payment is not too big but I am sure that every people will feel happy and satisfied and they want to continue so they can earn bigger money.
10850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Really! Where is the fun at? on: September 12, 2018, 06:02:10 AM
maybe the fun is when we can talk with other people and we can play together in one table while we can talk about joke too. I feel that I playing with my friend in one game and we can play together, we can say that can make us laugh and feel happy no matter if we cannot win. we can drink if we stop for a while in the game and enjoy the time to continue to talk. at least, this is what I feel with my friends in the gambling game.

Well that is happen on real life casino, but at online gambling, you can't do that, you only can chat online with other people. It's fun but not much fun as on real life casino.
You are right, real life casinos has more fun but convenience is also important, some people like being and gambling at their home, it has more fun for them.
I think everyone has their own perspective and sense of how they can be happy, not everyone has the same feeling to be happy, including gambling, for some people gambling in the casino will be more fun because it is crowded, others like sports betting because of that regarding their hobbies, people's have different to be happy in gambling

yes, I agree with you. as long as people can feel enjoy when they played, then they will get fun in the games no matter if they play in online gambling or offline gambling. we cannot say that we don't know where is the fun because maybe the other people can feel the fun things in the gambling game so they can say to other people that they really enjoy in the gambling and they can get fun in the game.
10851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does anyone gamble in race sports? on: September 12, 2018, 04:59:47 AM
I am not gambling in the race sports but one of my friends gamble in race sports and he told me that it's difficult to collect the information about each team or player if we don't know where we need to go. but the chance of winning is wide open because as long as we can collect valid information from many sources, we can win the bet and make a big money especially if we are sure with the prediction. but yes, he has a bad experience in the race sports because, at that time, he missed something that is important and makes he lost.
10852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I bought ETH yesterday and guess what happened next on: September 12, 2018, 02:56:36 AM
we know that ethereum still on the bottom and we don't know when it will go up and you don't have to regret that your investment value is decreased too deep. you need to stay calm in this situations, don't panic like other people say, and still hold your ethereum until the price can increase again. right now is the best time to make more investment in ethereum because the price is very low and you can buy ethereum now. but one thing that you should know is the price can up and down in this year so you need to be patient if the price is falling again.
10853  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you start trading? on: September 12, 2018, 01:56:04 AM
Trading is very risky they said and the information to learn is very wide , every losses and profits  is a experienced that is why I'm very interested in trading , yet i don't know where i should start .

Can you share guys how do you start with this line?
trading on cryptocurrency certainly can be profitable if we understand the basic strategy of trading, maybe a simple way you can do to start trading you can try it with small capital first so that you can minimize the risk of loss.

yes, I always suggest to my friend who is new in trading to use small capital while they learn about the basic rule in trading. I've told them to not afraid if somehow they are losing the money and they need to know how they made that mistake so they can learn about how to prevent the mistake. besides that, they need to learn about how to analyze the chart, the position of buying and sell order, how much the volume of one coin in 24 hours and other else. and if they can do this, I am sure that their skills will grow and it means, they can increase their profit because they can be able to analyze which coins that can make a profit.

Before starting it, the beginner has to understand if the trading is for him or not. Probably, he will never accept the market volatility or he has some more important work to spend his time on the crypto.

in my first time, I cannot accept when I got lost and I feel really bad because I don't know how to use the moment of the increase in the price. I only panic to see the price starts to moves to the higher price, so I add the price I want to sell but unfortunately, my selling price never fill. so I decided to learn more and more to know the moment to sell until I can determine the price I want to sell.

I am sure that people will learn from their mistake so they can accept if they cannot make a profit or if they see the market is falling and they can keep trying to trade without any bad feeling. but if we never learning more about trading, we cannot grow and fix the mistake and we only make another mistake in the future.
10854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Leave Crypto? on: September 12, 2018, 12:51:40 AM
how if we can buy many coins in this dip and then we leave the market for a while because we don't want to be panic because of the news. I think this can be a solution too for people who cannot control their emotion in the market and they don't have to always check the price of every coin. but if that person has a good skill in trading then leaving the market is not a good idea and like you said, in this dip, he can buy a lot of coins with very low price and selling when the price increase.
10855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: September 11, 2018, 06:13:01 AM
because people in out there don't see any positive from gambling itself, so they can judge contrary for the gambling. besides that, once people get involve in gambling games and they are often playing gambling, the chance for them to lose their money is bigger and they cannot recover it even if they using much money. and they are only losing more money without they realize and in the end, they will regret, and they can become stress because of losing the money in gambling games.

The facts are very burdensome for gambling. The number of people who suffer because of gambling is greater than the number of people who benefit from it. That is why gambling has been perceived badly by the public since long time ago.

yes, this is what we get if we are still playing gambling but unfortunately, many people don't realize about this. and they still playing gambling because they want to make a fast money in gambling but they cannot. in the end, they can lose everything without having a chance to recover their money. besides that, their life can be in trouble and they will suffer too for a long time.
10856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many hours a day are you spending on online gambling? on: September 11, 2018, 05:00:03 AM
I see that many of us have different on spending time on online gambling and I think we need to make a limit time to spend so we can prevent to play in all day long. I think about how if we set the alarm on our phone for 10 minutes, 30 minutes or even 1 hour to remind us that the time for stop the game it comes so we can leave the games no matter what we've got. I think this can work for us and we can learn about discipline on time, and we can avoid playing gambling all day because we have time to play and stop the game.
10857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's the strangest or craziest thing you witnessed in a casino? on: September 11, 2018, 03:59:44 AM
gladly, I don't have the strangest or craziest as your experienced because I never playing gambling at the real casino so I don't meet the real person. this could be a good lesson for you or your friends that playing gambling too often because they can be addicting in gambling and they can lose all of their money like that woman. we don't know what next that can happen if we are still playing gambling and I guess, in the end, we can do like what that woman did. we can sell all the things that we have just to continue playing gambling because we think that we can win in the next round.
10858  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin and investment on: September 11, 2018, 02:59:39 AM
Being a newbie, I'm looking for a good direction on learning about the markets and trading. How would you decide which ICO to invest in? Cryptocurrency is too volatile, but so there is still many people who go into investment that goes even in the newest coins which are similar (not same) in the functionality that they offer (e.g. anonymity). What is the possibility on any of these coins (or digital currency in general) being successful (or profitable)? I'm also not clear on how does the value of coin inflate or deflate; especially when the flow is controlled by the developers?

tl;dr Any resources or pointers on the topic are appreciated.

for me, if I want to invest in ICO, I will visit on their ANN on this forum, I will visit on their website too, download their whitepaper and read the project details. maybe I will join in their telegram group channel too if I think it necessary to get more information about the project or talk with the dev or the team so I can get anything that can help me to decide later. but I think the best thing that I can do for making an investment is in altcoin which has a good history or has a track record at least this will help me to make an analysis to invest because I am not too expecting to make a big profit with the new coins.
10859  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you start trading? on: September 11, 2018, 12:58:24 AM
For the new traders and I,  it's important to start with learning all you can about the subject of trading generally,  familiarise yourself either trading processes and learn about cryptocurrency and bitcoin in particular.  Nice you are ready,  start trading what you can afford to lose first and then you will have experience to trade big in the future!
Yea. Its easy to say like that, but in reality I doubt you are even following whatever you said this time. Most likely you just lose and can't move on with your losses, familiarize yourself on trading is fine but if you can't thinking out of the box and just following the general ideas you would probably lose more.

agree with it, I in trading it is normal to have losses because not in anytime you can make profit. the question is how to handle emotion base in times of losses, learning trading maybe not predictable yet can prevent losses Cheesy thank guys for sharing your thoughts

handling emotion is one of the difficult things especially if we are losses, but if we can say to ourselves that losing the money is part of trading, and we are trying to accept our losses, I am sure that soon we can easy to handle the loss. it cannot be done in one night, but it needs time before we can realize that behind of the loss, we have a chance to recover the money and back to make a profit. doing trading means we need to accept that we have two option in trading which makes a profit and get the loss. once you understand this, you can handle your emotion.
Learning is always important when it comes to trading and I have never seen anyone skipping that part that would not have problem and issues eventually. Trading is fun and interesting if you have the necessary skills to make good trade but it is just a pity that instead of doing it right, so many people are so focused on the aspect of making money so fast that they just discard quickly the aspect of learning perfectly well and practicing to some extent before even going in big.

yes, you are right. I see that a new trader, especially my friends who are new to trading, always expecting to make money fast. but I told them that you cannot expect and hope to make a profit in the short time especially if the market cannot be predicted as today. we don't know which coin that can increase in the next day or how long we need to hold the coin so we can sell at the high price. but if you can learning something related to trading, at least, you can try to make a profit even in the hardest situation as today. so I always tell them to still learn more, no matter if the market is easy to trade or in the hard situation.
10860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: September 10, 2018, 06:14:41 AM
I have personally made 2,500 usd in a real casino,  the first 8 hundred or so with blackjack turned around and hit a 1700$ jackpot 10 min later, the most i lost was 400 in blackjack it was a 200 dollar bet, I caught an 11 doubled dow, caught an ace dealer had an 18 I had a 12,
You are still lucky, most gamblers who played long term are losers but it maybe depending on the games you played.
Blackjack is a good game but IMO it is categorized as luck based games, so that means in the long run we will still gonna lose.
No doubt that majority of the gamblers are losing all the time rather than to win the game. I don’t know the reason why this is happening with them but they still are not willing to leave the gambling for their own good. I think they are not lucky enough in case of gambling and maybe lucky in other fields of life and wasting all of their luck in gambling which is useless puts them in deep troubles.
I don’t think there is someone who is lucky in gambling and wins all the time, gambling is designed to eat all the money of gamblers that is why casino is poppinh everywhere. And gambling is for entertainment in the first place its the people who thinks that its a shortcut of getting rich.

there is luck in the gambling, and there is a gambler that can have their luck work in the game so they can win the game with big money. but still, the luck factor not always on your side, and we don't know when the luck is coming. gambling can make a loss and wins for every people no matter if that person only want to feel to play the games or that person is a pro gambler. but in the end, the casino will always get the benefits from the games because they still get big money from the players.
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