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10881  Economy / Speculation / Re: How do you think Bitcoin & Crypto would look like in 10 years? on: September 09, 2018, 05:15:00 AM
10 years is too long for us to talk about the crypto, maybe we need to make it short like for 5 years from now. I think if all country can accepting cryptocurrency as a legal thing, cryptocurrency can be the one of currency for all country because cryptocurrency can have access to every people without any limit and border. besides that, we can use cryptocurrency in all places without we need to exchange to the local fiat which will always change in every time. but I think it is better to look at what will happen in the next year which nearly happens with us and we can find the answer soon.
10882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH falls !! on: September 09, 2018, 04:12:01 AM
a few days ago ethereum experienced a drastic decline. and it turns out it's currently under $ 200! My personal predictions are wrong, and may not be true. what's the next step?  Huh Huh I think vacationing is a good idea while enjoying a vacation !!

many of us have the wrong prediction because the ethereum price now is under $200. yes, right now, what we need is to take a rest from the market for a while if we cannot wait for the price to increase. but before you go vacations, make sure that you can buy more ethereum in the market because this is a good price for you and maybe you will not see this price again in the future. I agree with other members said that this is our chance to buy a lot of ethereum at the very low price but of course, we need to have money to buy ethereum.
10883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who needs today to believe? on: September 09, 2018, 03:10:13 AM
I still trying to believe in crypto although it is difficult and I am sure that it will recover again. the problem is we cannot wait for the price to increase again. and if you experienced in 2013 which was the price is like today, I am sure that you can still believe with crypto and still trying to make a profit. this will end soon and you don't have to do anything if you almost lost your belief in crypto and maybe you can do another thing than for watching the market only because of this will makes you get disappointed.
10884  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading via bot on: September 09, 2018, 02:10:02 AM
Did I chosse a good bot ? I mean there are many bots.
Can I work with low deposit like I don't know 200-300€?
What do you think about that "hamster signals" or how's that called.
Just want to workout with low deposit and make some money. I don't expect 1000€ in on month haha. Well I do expect it but not of course in one month.

Alright that might be all. Looking forward on your answers and thank you.

you can use any of bots in out there but the most important you need to know the basic of trading itself. before you use any of bot, you need to know the command to run the bot so you can gain benefits from the bot. before you buy that bot, maybe you need to compare with the other bot so you know what the pros and cons so you can choose what you need. using bots means you are trying to semi-automate your trading so you don't have to use your emotion especially if you cannot handle the emotion when the market is run from your prediction.

using 200-300€ it's good option while you can see how the bot works in the market and from that amount, you can see how much profit you can get with the bot. the bot will catch the signals from the telegram premium signal or any of channel if the bot works from the telegram or if the bot gets any signal from the market, then the bot will make an action. so you need to learn the basic of the trading bot and this is a must thing that you need to know before you run the bot.
10885  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what profit do you need to close the long position? on: September 09, 2018, 01:07:57 AM
If you are a long-term holder, what profit do you need to close the position?
For example, I need a minimum of + 400%

every trader has different target profit to close the position. we need to see the buy order on our history then we can determine how much price we need to sell for making a profit. for me, I think I need 5x or 7x to close the position because some of my coins have decreased very deep so if I don't see the increasing of the price for about 5, I won't sell it. but the other coins, I only need 2x for the price so I can make a profit and with 2x of the increase, I can reach BEP and plus I can get profit. but I won't reject if somehow the price can increase more than 10x Grin
10886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Men only. Are you daring enough to have a boob job to complete a bet? on: September 08, 2018, 05:42:15 AM
I don't want to do that thing even if someone can pay for $1,000,000 but I don't know if there are any people who want it. I don't have any crazy experience with my friends and I think our bets is normal like other people and I think it's not too crazy like that news. I think we need to think about our family too if we want to do that thing so they know the reason we do that thing.
10887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why not play games online instead of gambling? on: September 08, 2018, 04:33:45 AM
I am playing games online too besides playing gambling and I think both have differences but I like to play the game especially with the adventure games. sometimes, I play games online with my friends and sometimes, we use the money for bets and if someone of us can win then the money will move to the winner. I see that the challenge is not the same but with money involved, I think it's more challenging because we want to be the winner so we can try the best things that we can to win the game and take the money.
Yeah it's about challenging that you won't get when you just play ordinary games. gambling makes your heart rate faster because there is something you bet on and that is not in the game. once again the two are different. just because looking for fun doesn't mean gambling are the same as ordinary games

but maybe there are any games that are challenging and makes our heart beat faster like for example, we are playing combat and adventure games which will give more excitement in the games. I agree that if money inside the games, it will more challenging like we said because we are tempting to win the games although we know that it is difficult to win the money.


I am playing games online too besides playing gambling and I think both have differences but I like to play the game especially with the adventure games. sometimes, I play games online with my friends and sometimes, we use the money for bets and if someone of us can win then the money will move to the winner. I see that the challenge is not the same but with money involved, I think it's more challenging because we want to be the winner so we can try the best things that we can to win the game and take the money.
Playing games online and gambling are actually two totally different things and for most people they are just really looking for ways to make more money from gambling even though they claim they want to have fun, but in reality, it is the money and the hope of winning huge one day that keeps them going.

I have myself this question several times, that if people really want to have fun, there are interesting and educative games that can really bring that fun they really desire rather than gambling.

yes, it is different things. usually, people playing online game for fun and other people playing gambling for making money which they know they cannot always win the game. so playing games online is for releasing the stress without spending any money and we can enjoy the game and get fun inside the game. but in gambling, we can also enjoy the game and get fun too like what we get in games online.
10888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Many will regret that they do not invest in cryptocurrencies on: September 08, 2018, 03:33:44 AM
I think they are afraid to invest in cryptocurrencies because this is a new thing for them and they don't know how to start invest. they think that the cryptocurrency is only available on the internet and they heard that many other from the internet is just a scam so they don't want to get scam too like other people. and if they still don't want to invest in cryptocurrency, I think we need to let them decide and let they see what will happen with the cryptocurrency and if somehow, the cryptocurrency can grow fast in this year or in the next year, then they will regret to not join in the cryptocurrency. we cannot convince them and push them to join because they don't want to open their eyes that there is a new opportunity for them for making a small investment in cryptocurrency.
10889  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hackers ? on: September 08, 2018, 02:28:49 AM
Are there a lot of hackers now in the crypto's world ? I mean, it a place not totally safe, because of it's quit new.  Do you think hackers can change the crypto economy for their own benefit ?


hackers now are on everywhere without we know who are they. and related with the cryptocurrency, as long as you can keep safe your private key and your wallet, then you are safe. you don't have to be afraid of hackers because if you can save your information with a good security then the hacker cannot break your security. I am not sure that the hacker can change the crypto economy but it is possible as we don't know how high their skill in the technology so we must save our account and don't tell to other people how much money we have.
10890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investment Suggestion on: September 08, 2018, 01:28:40 AM
after watching the market yesterday, maybe I can give some suggestion for your investment in altcoin with your ethereum. we know that in bittrex, there is ethereum pair altcoin so you can try to have a short-term investment and there are many altcoins you can buy with ethereum. maybe you can take a look at these coin ZRX, OCN, SRN, SNT, TRX, ADA, BNT, DGB, and analyze for each of this coins and I think you can find that you can buy only one or two coins with your 1 ethereum and keep the other ethereum in your wallet as a long-term investment. you can use 0.5 ethereum for each of coins so you can have two coins as your short-term investment. but before you buy any coins I suggested, make sure you analyze the coins and it is up to you.
10891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Very soon we will see a new wave of market growth!!! on: September 08, 2018, 12:26:50 AM
When? If this dump will continue we will never see new pump because everybody will come out if crypto with unbelief.

it will happen soon, and you don't have to worry because right now, the market still searching for a good time to rise again and you can see that many coins still trying to increase back. some of those coins already increased higher, but it's back to lower again, some of them even stay at the lower price just waiting for a right moment to grow. but in the end, every coin will make a new higher price again including for bitcoin price, and you only need to wait for the price of every coin to increase and sell at the right time.
10892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: September 07, 2018, 07:07:48 AM
because people in out there don't see any positive from gambling itself, so they can judge contrary for the gambling. besides that, once people get involve in gambling games and they are often playing gambling, the chance for them to lose their money is bigger and they cannot recover it even if they using much money. and they are only losing more money without they realize and in the end, they will regret, and they can become stress because of losing the money in gambling games.
10893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits of gambling? Yes - it exists! on: September 07, 2018, 06:07:23 AM
One of the biggest positives for myself and gambling are the friendships I've made from it.  Formed a lot of good relationships with great people that I wouldn't have if I wasn't involved in gambling.

It really does help stimulate the economy as well by providing jobs, this is something that the gambling naysayers often forget about.
I agree with you about making friendship, I think it also helps being patient.

making a friendship is one of the benefits in the gambling game in online gambling or offline gambling. but for being patient, it will depend on personal because we can be patient if we want to try and learn about how to be patient. I think we can get another benefit in gambling which is we can make a rule about limiting the money and try to obey the limit money that we use in gambling so we can prevent a big loss.
Actually gambling can makes people become unpatient though, people want doubling their money fast on gambling and bet randomly to get more profits.

then they will get lost all of their money because they cannot get fast money in gambling games except fast loss. we learn many things about gambling and we know that gambling games are the fastest way to lose our money. but there will be another benefit of gambling like I said and making friends just one of the benefits. maybe you can just visit on the gambling games without placing the bets and you only want to talk with other people and say hello to them.
10894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner's Luck on: September 07, 2018, 05:03:56 AM
It is very rare that the person who first jumps in gambling wins in the game, maybe only a few people feel that way when he gambles can win the game, even though the person who can win the game on gambling is based on luck but without experience and strategy the victory will hard to get by most beginners
I think beginners or even though old players there is nothing special about their luck, everyone has their own luck and just because
they are first jump on gambling then has a greater likelihood of profit? that is not true buddy

I believe that there are people come to the gambling place for the first time to play the games. they don't have any experience with gambling games, they want to know how it feels playing gambling. so they change their money with some coins and start to play in the dice game. they never thought that they can win easily but the reality, they can win in their first time of gambling game and it's happening in many gambling places. maybe we don't know the truth but I am sure that it is already happening since a long time ago.
10895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Learn from your mistakes on: September 07, 2018, 03:47:58 AM
making mistakes is normal and I am sure that it happens to every people but the problem is how we can prevent the same mistake and we are committed to learning from that mistakes. learning from mistakes is difficult especially if we don't want to learn from the mistakes itself and we cannot grow from the mistakes. and if we can learn from the mistakes, I am sure that we can get something benefits and we can get more knowledge from the mistakes so we can avoid doing the same mistake in the future.
10896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: GET OUT WHEN YOU CAN!!OR STAY AND CRY! on: September 07, 2018, 02:47:22 AM
it is not over, it will continue like this and I don't want to go because I know everything will come back to normal again. I am not too worried about the market now and I will only wait for another time to see the market will rise again. you will regret if you are quit from what you start and you are difficult to come back just to recover your losses because in that time, the market will rise and you don't have anything to join again. just be patient and don't panic like other people said because we are going to see the rise of cryptocurrency.
10897  Economy / Economics / Re: Friends reactions to crypto currencies? on: September 07, 2018, 01:46:54 AM
I think we have the same experience here. there are people accept about cryptocurrency, and there are people was not accept cryptocurrency. I don't take it too seriously if they don't want to know about cryptocurrency because I don't want to force someone to realize it and let them know by themselves. I will say okay, maybe it's not your chance, but soon, you will regret when you want to know cryptocurrency, and perhaps I will talk with the other friends.
10898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To quit gambling is to quit yourself on: September 06, 2018, 07:40:25 AM
How many people get rid of gambling? It is extremely difficult, i think not many people can do that before losing all of their money. My brother has promised many times but he still repeats everything. Everyone has helped and counseled a lot but perhaps only he can help himself.

maybe we can help an addicted gambler to give advice and stay beside them so we can always remind them to not play gambling. but I think it will better if that person has a strong mind for quitting gambling so what we did to help him can works. it will difficult if only us that keep telling him to quit gambling but he doesn't want to quit gambling. he needs to have a big effort and say that he really needs to quit gambling and not playing gambling again in the future.
10899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits of gambling? Yes - it exists! on: September 06, 2018, 06:40:13 AM
One of the biggest positives for myself and gambling are the friendships I've made from it.  Formed a lot of good relationships with great people that I wouldn't have if I wasn't involved in gambling.

It really does help stimulate the economy as well by providing jobs, this is something that the gambling naysayers often forget about.
I agree with you about making friendship, I think it also helps being patient.

making a friendship is one of the benefits in the gambling game in online gambling or offline gambling. but for being patient, it will depend on personal because we can be patient if we want to try and learn about how to be patient. I think we can get another benefit in gambling which is we can make a rule about limiting the money and try to obey the limit money that we use in gambling so we can prevent a big loss.
10900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investment Suggestion on: September 06, 2018, 05:36:09 AM
Hi Friends,
I have 2ETH and want to invest.Kindly suggest me any solid project/token/coin with reason.I am thinking about ArcBlock.Is this a right decision or not???
How if I keep Ethereum itself as investment? Any suggestion?

I think it is better to have ethereum than to invest in another coin/tokens especially if you only have 2 ethereum. but maybe you want to buy the altcoin with 1 ethereum only and if you have skills in analyze, I think you can do scalping with your ethereum because I see that ethereum pair altcoin is pretty good to make more ethereum. but sticking on ethereum only is a good investment you can do now as the ethereum itself can increase in the future so it will better to not buy any tokens.
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