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1101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 10:43:34 AM
At some point we need to start educating people on the importance of running their masternodes on somewhere else than Amazon. Perhaps a compiled list of independent operators you can rent a server from could be added to the OP.

http://drk.poolhash.org/darksend.html

Great idea illodin. I'm very interested in this subject. Have been reading up on AWS and I'm far from thrilled with it as a hosting provider. Would be very happy to hear people's views and experience for & against.
1102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 09:33:33 AM
Thanks to craptsy adding a 8 month old shitcoin.
I found my old wallet.dat and was able to unload these shitcoins.

Thanks for another few DRK to Area 51

One of the ongoing challenges of reading posts on forums like this is the never ending ability of people to write something ambiguous that leaves you wondering just exactly what the poster is trying to say.

"Shitcoin" are you referring to DRK? (I'm guessing yes since you've mentioned 8 months?)

"Thanks for another few DRK to Area 51" (reference to the infamous Edwards Airforce Base highly secretive US government test area?)

What does it mean/what are you saying exactly?

I'm guessing you're not bullish on DRK. Given the lack of effort you put into your post I can imagine how little understanding you have of what we're dealing with here.

I am more bullish on DRK than ever before. "Crypto People" are only short time related on what they are doing.
All who are selling now because there is still no announcement on RC4 release date are XXX
Have a look at darkcointalk and you can see how things change day by day on the testnet.

Well that's great to hear. Really had no idea what you were getting at but thanks to illodin reminding me about aliencoin it makes sense now.
1103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 09:31:22 AM
remember -don't quote the trolls!

...nor talk down other coins. What we have here is just too innovative and spectacular to engage in deprecating commentary on other crypto-currencies.
1104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 09:17:42 AM
Thanks to craptsy adding a 8 month old shitcoin.
I found my old wallet.dat and was able to unload these shitcoins.

Thanks for another few DRK to Area 51

One of the ongoing challenges of reading posts on forums like this is the never ending ability of people to write something ambiguous that leaves you wondering just exactly what the poster is trying to say.

"Shitcoin" are you referring to DRK? (I'm guessing yes since you've mentioned 8 months?)

"Thanks for another few DRK to Area 51" (reference to the infamous Edwards Airforce Base highly secretive US government test area?)

What does it mean/what are you saying exactly?

I'm guessing you're not bullish on DRK. Given the lack of effort you put into your post I can imagine how little understanding you have of what we're dealing with here.
1105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 06:14:23 AM
Calling someone a pussy has nothing to do with cats or vaginas.
Yeah I realise that camosoul, the angry cat picture was tongue-in-cheek.

You've certainly not approached the expression of a few concepts on here pusillanimously!

I enjoy your input (although after reading a couple of your blog postings I probably wouldn't be going out of my way at a party to spend time with you. Ha!)
1106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 04:58:40 AM
Not everyone is selfish, sometimes you have to give to receive.
Selfishness has nothing to do with it. It's about IQ points. Faucets are useless, that's why nobody does it. BTC was created in a crypto vacuum. DRK was not. No alt has been helped by a faucet. Ever. No person has everbought something useful with 0.00000001 of the alt that they got for free. It doesn't do anything.
Such a harsh man camosoul. And there, for a moment, people who hadn't heard of such a thing were thinking that there is the possibility of a free lunch in crypto after all! Another bubble burst....
Reality is harsh. There is no candy coating on the free market of crypto. I encourage people to harden the fuck up before they get hammered for being pussies.

Like this happy critter?

1107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 04:48:06 AM
Not everyone is selfish, sometimes you have to give to receive.
Selfishness has nothing to do with it. It's about IQ points. Faucets are useless, that's why nobody does it. BTC was created in a crypto vacuum. DRK was not. No alt has been helped by a faucet. Ever. No person has everbought something useful with 0.00000001 of the alt that they got for free. It doesn't do anything.

Such a harsh man camosoul. And there, for a moment, people who hadn't heard of such a thing were thinking that there is the possibility of a free lunch in crypto after all! Another bubble burst....
1108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 04:18:26 AM
What is that
DRK faucet
??

Sorry for the idiot question ....>
Place where people can get free Drks, usually dust amounts.

why would we/somebody hand out free DRK ?
to get new people in or what is the idea ?
im with tungfa... i have no idea what a faucet is,  why and how it works and the purpose....

They've been around for a while. Some other Alts have them. Designed to get some flow of coins going very early in the piece to stimulate demand over and above just what the miner's create.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_faucet
1109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 10:08:38 PM


The trouble with the ignore button is you still get this

Just for a little while coins101; eventually there is silence.
1110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 09:33:20 PM
DRK guys,

The level of hostility and tit-for-tat retorts against Bobsurplus and Shojayxt has gone to fever pitch. What happened to just ignoring these guys?

Think back to your school days. What was the most effective tool against a playground bully? To ignore them. They hate being ignored because a lack of response from you is the very worst of experiences for them. And when you do this they ratchet up the pressure and get much louder. And if you continue to ignore them they get even LOUDER. And then, with continued ignoring they enter into a frothing-at-the-mouth phase where it's so extreme they end up making a complete spectacle of themselves.

The problem here is that we're failing to ignore them (even after everyone's said they would). To "ignore" means exactly that. It's to not respond at all on any level to a single posting. It means don't even use a blank quote box (so that you're not reiterating their words); the mere fact you're writing a responding post means you've not ignored them. Just don't respond AT ALL. They will get louder and louder but will suddenly vanish. That's how it works.

It is obvious to anyone that has any experience at all with human nature that Bobsurplus and Shojayxt are worried about DRK's likely success and feel a desperate need to put DRK, and everyone here that believes in it, down. As someone pointed out, we should be flattered. But their venom and nastiness will just disappear if we truly ignore them in every respect.
1111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 12:26:10 PM
Hi Darkcoiners!

I received a pm from one of your members expressing concerns that CLOAK community members have been "trolling" in DRK threads, as such and on behalf of the cloak team I would like to express our sentiments about this.

Cloak team is in no way against DarkCoin or any other Cryptocurrency. We don't condone behaviour of certain individuals that deliberately attack others coins. Running, building and innovating a coin is ALLOT of work and as a dev team we are naturally respectful of those efforts. An effort from us will be made to stop the trolling by messaging certain individuals.

We both have different angles of approach to deal with anon and ours (like our coin) is very much in it's infancy. You guys are allot more established and are a leading example of the demand for coin anonymity.

The markets are indeed punishing and only the strongest get to reach and stay in the top tiers but despite the fierce competition there's room for other coins without the need for antagonising community rivalry.

We will try to encourage people not to FUD in other coins threads such as yours and would request that the same is done in return.

Good luck going forward and let's hope that during the times to come our communities can co-exist in a "grown up" manor without the day-to-day unnecessary drama. We can at least try Wink

Thanks for your post, very well said. If you can impart even a minor portion of your fairmindedness and grace on the individuals involved (which you can determine by going back only a few pages within this thread; truly appalling loads of diatribe), we'll all be the better for it.
1112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 03:03:51 AM
IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE
anybody else wants on the list ??

ok back to real conversations

News round up !!


Respect to Tante + Fernando for writing these articles,
well done ladies and gentlemen.

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/darkcoins-approach-to-anonymity-is-truly-trustless-and-opens-endless-possibilities

http://coinbrief.net/darksend-plus/

Yea I think the article by Fernando is a great barebones introduction to Darkcoin. It would be good to link anyone who's curious about DRK to it because it explains in simple terms how things work. Then if they want to know more, especially how it works on a technical level they could come here.

Tante's brief is pretty in depth, actually might be a good expansion on what Fernando was talking about. Very detailed and well fleshed-out, full of juicy nuggets.

These two articles together are a good introduction for newbies on where DRK is and where it wants to go.

+1

They are both excellent articles and worthy of being used as communication pieces for newcomers...

Yes, agreed. I thanked you Fernando in a previous post but will say it again here. Have tweeted your article out as it's very good.

And Tante congratulations on yours too. It's also excellent and (as someone that's had a fair bit to do with seeing benefits of the support for diversity within work environments) I'm particularly pleased to see a female in here with such a great level of knowledge, capability and engagement. Thanks and great work!
1113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 27, 2014, 09:29:52 PM

Excellent article.

I hadn't considered this in such terms:

Quote
there is only one chance in 1.3 trillion for someone with twenty five masternodes (an investment of around 160,000 usd at today's price) to control the eight involved ones and trace the transaction.

Yeah great article/propoganda.

From the author of the article:

Disclaimer: I own a significant amount of darkcoins and I am quite involved with the Darkcoin community. I'm obviously biased,


The article is from another Darkcoin fanboy with a platform.

It's more of an advertisement than anything. 

Nice try though. 

I know I shouldn't quote you, but I'm the fanboy/author and I have to do it.

Yes, I'm a darkcoin owner and I'm proud of it. Yes, I'm biased. So you are. The difference is that I'm open with everything, you hide behind a pseudonym and I can't know your motives.

Don't bother to answer, I'm out after this message to keep on with my life. You should go get one.

It was a very well written article Fernando. Thanks for taking the time to write and publish it.

Bobsurplus, Shojayxt and Coolstoryteller the nature of your postings that are so desperate in desire to put DRK down, only indicate the high levels of fear you're harbouring that you're most likely on the wrong train. You'd be better off spending your time assisting the dev's and people working on your preferred coin. All of human history will show you never ending examples that the process you're employing here isn't going to do anything except make DRK stronger.
1114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 26, 2014, 03:04:47 PM
This is the worst investment i ever made its done nothing but slowly bleed to death ever since I bought it. The worst part is that I listened to all the people saying hold, now I feel like a fucking fool and hate myself for not selling sooner. God dammit! Angry IM SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT!

If you don't realize what's around the corner then please sell right now and realize your loss.

Lol  - panic makes me laugh at all the weak.

I've lost almost HALF my money, fuck you you prick! You laugh at that? What a fucking asshole.

Your first major newbie mistake was investing your ENTIRE $3,000 all at once... you never looked for a good entry price, never did any dollar cost-averaging or did anything sensible here... I doubt you've ever traded a stock or any financial security in your life, and probably did about as much research as a 3rd grade book report.

My friend and I have invested about $8,500.00 USD into DRK since before the last hard fork failure (past 2 months). We started buying DRK above 0.02 BTC. But you know what? Our losses so far are completely manageable and we're not worried one bit. We only purchased small amounts at 0.02+ BTC, and as the price has fallen we've progressively purchased larger and larger amounts, continually averaging down our average unit cost per DRK. And I'm buying every last DRK I can get my hands on near the 0.01 BTC level... this price point feels like the bargain of the century on the eve of RC4.

Your second newbie mistake was investing $3,000 into ANY crypto-currency, especially since this is a lot of money to you and you say you're "poor". If you're poor you never should've bought ANY coin, much less $3K worth. You never invest what you cannot afford to lose in crypto-currencies... that's just completely asinine, especially if you have no clue what you're doing and zero trading/financial experience...

Your third newbie mistake is ignoring the fundamentals and the huge, market-shaking changes coming to DRK with RC4. Have you paid attention to Evan's posts about Darksend+? The code audit by Kristov Atlas? The huge wallet/UI overhaul that I am working on? Or any of the other dev updates? Obviously not.

Your fourth newbie mistake is going to be panic selling your DRK now around 0.01 BTC just before it whip-saws up to 0.05+ BTC after RC4... that 260-ish DRK you bought for $3k would probably rake in over $7,800.00 for you if you just held it. But you're going to be regretting panic selling every day of your life as DRK rises to $30.00, $50.00, $90.00, $125.00, $200.00, and on and on and on... eventually it'll be trading at 1.5x to 3.0x the value of 1 BTC...

Your fifth (but probably not your last) newbie mistake is NOT BUYING MORE DRK NOW and averaging down your avg. unit cost per coin!!!  Smiley

Sorry your first brush with crypto trading has been rough, but you need to learn how to manage your money and think things through...

-- The DRK Lord --
the force is strong within this one!  well eloqueted! thanks DRK Lord.

Yes, agree totally. You're a rare beast DRK Lord. A technocrat that can design an interface that's beautiful and functional, plus write with a command of the English language that's so unfortunately mostly missing on these forums, an understanding of an appropriate 101-level approach to investing AND an ability to reply to someone with candour and calmness when they'd lost it so badly all he wanted to do was spew venom and wroth on everyone.
1115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 26, 2014, 02:16:56 PM
it's not a good thing to quote the others larger sections words,it's not necessary,and it's disturbing the normal reading!

Quoting clarifies what one is referring to. I've seen many posts where someone says something where they're referring to another post but it's completely ambiguous as to which post they're referring to because they haven't quoted. So it's an important facility to use. But, perhaps cutting the quotes down somewhat (like my example above) will reduce the amount of clutter and repeated text. Thanks.
1116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 26, 2014, 02:00:11 PM
...too much to read...

How's this?
1117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [RED] REDCOIN - R18 - Porn, Gambling, & Everything Naughty on: July 26, 2014, 04:38:31 AM
Whatever happened to this coin? Is it completely dead?

Answering my own question: Just looked on coinmarketcap.com and I see it's in position 101 at a cap of $88,076, last price $ 0.001941 and total coins mined of 45,371,100
1118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [RED] REDCOIN - R18 - Porn, Gambling, & Everything Naughty on: July 26, 2014, 04:28:36 AM
Whatever happened to this coin? Is it completely dead?
1119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 26, 2014, 04:27:22 AM
Right then...........................

I made a post earlier this evening about a correction for the soon to be new DRK Wallet design.
I was finally able to make a grafx showing what I mean..



The Send and Receive arrows need to be flipped vertically to properly represent a SEND and RECEIVE
A Send is an UPLOAD (arrow up) and
A Receive is a DOWNLOAD (arrow down)

I hope raze and and the crew takes this into consideration before the final release.
Even though it's a minor change - I really do think the SEND and RECEIVE should be better represented to be more accurate





Then I got ta messin around with the Pix and realized that the MASTERNODE needs a symbol,
....maybe even if a MANUAL DEMONINATE button is added later.....

I was thinking it should look something like this



Then with the DRK D



and then the bigger picture with title




These are not really finished PIX but more of a concept in design.
....but I do hope they are considered in the final product


Thanx for checkin it out :-)

I think that change you've suggested to the up and down orientation of the arrows does make sense. I just looked at Darklord's original and compared to yours; it clarifies the send/receive a bit more.
1120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 26, 2014, 03:17:17 AM
Are you fucking serious? Go fuck yourself you rich elitist prick.

Have a cup of concrete and harden the fuck up you pussy.
.

You wanna fight prick?

ExpedientSlush whilst I and no doubt many others feel your pain, your issue is not that you bought $3000 worth of dark at BTC .018, it's your attitude. You get on here angry as hell and just blurt out venom on everyone because you're so pissed at how things have turned out. The sad thing is that if DRK had gone to .036 you'd most likely be sounding off at the mouth about what a clever fellow you are and telling all your friends how you've "doubled your money..." yada, yada. And then you're likely to take an even bigger gamble on some other coin because someone's told you it's a "dead cert winner" and your $6000 is then likely to turn into $1000 or less and you'll be in angry pissed-off territory again.

You've put your self into a highly volatile, high risk, non regulated investment environment. What were you really expecting, just gains, gains and more gains? Darklord has so rightly pointed out, you MUST do research before even thinking about dipping your toe into this world.

But the good news is you've bought a coin that clearly has the potential to be the game changer of game changers. All you need to do is fix your attitude, have a bit of patience and work on sorting out other parts of your life so you're not so dependent on Crypto going to the moon. The market fo rthsi stuff is what it is....I'm sitting on way bigger losses than you and kicking myself for having bought a substantial portion of my DRK holdings at even higher than 0.18. But it was MY decision and I'm living with it.

We, on here are not all rich, we are not all elitist (actually I wouldn't think any are). We're all people that are looking for new ways and means to create value and earn. You need to take responsibility for YOUR decisions and grow up (like, urgently).

Whatever asshole.

Whatever asshole is on the buying end of a trade they have a chance of winning and a chance of losing
Whatever asshole is on the selling side of a trade they have a chance of winning and a chance of losing
At the end the day some assholes win, some assholes lose
Some assholes work out how to transcend their assholiness
You have the opportunity to do this too
all the best
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