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1101  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: March 06, 2015, 10:25:56 PM
One thing is for sure, being a russian living over in there now can't be easy. Ethnic cleansing going on, Russia stopped USA from invading Syria - this is the revenge.

That´s part of it, no doubt.

Maybe things are being ratcheted up for a spring offensive ? Six NATO warships are conducting war games in the Black Sea. U.S. sending 600 paratroopers to Ukraine, some lesser mob outfits sending "advisers" as well. Could get dangerous but the Russians are unlikely to take any baits, they´re too shrewd for that.
Yeah they got many troops close to Russia now due to the situation in the Ukraine, could be both - but I don't tihnk US has the balls to invade Russia tbh, they will keep their rat and mouse game up while something else is going on at the higher politic levels.

I guess it´s Crimea and the Donbass they´re eying. Those choice bits of Ukraine most likely were the main reason for the west´s coup last year. Especially the Crimea must be attractive to them, control that and they pretty much dominate Russia´s entire southern flank. I think they´re crazy enough to try something major there.

You assumption is spot on. From April last year:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/breaking-us-planned-to-turn-crimea-into-military-base-against-russia/

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At least one hospital in Crimea’s capital Simferopol and at least one school in Sevastopol were targeted by the US/NATO just recently. They were planning on turning the hospital into a base for their troops after a massive renovation. One of the high schools (a gymnasium) in Sevastopol the Kiev authorities were about to sell to the US to be repurposed as a school for spies, targeting Russia. It was planned that the kids going to that school would be learning languages and spying techniques since an early age.

It appears Americans wanted to turn the Crimea into a massive military/navy/intelligence complex. The famous, one-of-a-kind Soviet underground submarine base in Balaklava, which is now the Museum of the Cold War, was visited in the past several years by at least 25 delegations from the Pentagon, US Navy, NATO, and Western political circles. Kiev gave them access to super-secret Russian/Soviet sectors of the base, which were supposed to be off limits. They studied with great interest the secret documentation and technology.



The final day for pull out of the heavy artillery is the day after tomorrow. DNR and LNR finished their pull-out. Kiev hardly started, and according to some DNR-released intelligence, Kiev forces have even been concentrating more weaponry south of DNR.



A group of Spanish anti-fascist volunteers, who returned from Donetsk face charges of "violating Spanish neutrality" and up to 15 years imprisonment for their effort to distribute humanitarian aid there. Interestingly, Spanish fascists, who actively fight in the Kiev's punisher battalions are a perfectly fine thing.
1102  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: March 06, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Today is a day of border detentions.

1. Graham Philips - one of the few, if not the only Western journalist covering the events in Donbass since the start - came to UK for vacation, where he was detained by the British police and questioned for 4 hours. In a later Skype interview he said that the British authorities cross-questioned him on what he did in Donbass and told him that he undermines the official British line on the events in Ukraine (presumably reporting the truth about the events there)

2. A group of Polish representatives from Change (if I am not mistaken) party, who came to Ukraine to commemorate the Volyn massacre, were detained at the border control. It turned out SBU had then on black list (even though some of them never visited Ukraine before). They got a 3-year ban on entering the country. Moreover they described the interrogation as unpleasant and and the detention as unlawful - as EU citizens they have a visum-free entry to Ukraine. They said in the interview that they ere openly told that they are undermining Ukrainian historical policy (which denies the Volyn massacre).

What I don't get is why the british are so keen on pushing moar war, blood and violence in ukietown? What do they win? Or what don't they lost? thx.

The Big Game that went on since 1600 is still on...



In other news. Canadians can now feel proud - they just got a new compatriot. "USA' man in Ukraine Yats", Yatsenjuk has received Canadian citizenship (despite Ukrainian law prohibiting double citizenship):
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/3/6/733201.html
1103  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Soldiers Readying for Ukraine Deployment on: March 06, 2015, 11:43:02 AM
Sorry, but why is America going to send troops over to help out?  In the worst case scenario, if you believe everything you hear, Russia is arming those in Donetsk and allowing some Russians to fight with them.  It is not the Russian Army fighting against the Ukrainian army, otherwise the casualties and results would be different.

So in this case, why should America offcially get involved? Ukraine is the other side of the world from America, there are no historical relationships and they are not a member of NATO.  The only reason I can see, is that they want to annoy Russia.  Russia is right next to Ukraine and is historically is basically the same country as Ukraine, they obviously have political reasons for trying to keep some influence as well as not wanting to have people they consider enemies on their border.

I don't think that the Russians are 100% in the right here, but of the 3 parties involved (Ukraine, Russia, the west) they are least to blame for everything.  Ukraine could leave the rebels in peace, but seem intent on war, and not only that, they want external help in this war to escalate things further.  They worry me at the moment, I really think they just want to annilihate the rebels and would stop at little to do so.

Related to the highlighted part, I previously made a post that I feel compelled to repeat here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971361.msg10641093#msg10641093

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Is it so difficult to believe that a multi-million population can produce enough warriors, who are capable of holding off an aggressor? They are fighting for their homes, their families, their land. Unlike the attackers, they are highly motivated. They have access to the Ukrainian military hardware - both what was present in the military bases of Donetsk and Lugansk oblast's and what they captured from the invading forces. And finally, they have military command, who trained in the Soviet Army, many having the battle experience from Soviet-time hot-spots. They don't need Russian help (except when it comes to food and medicines). Just like Soviet Union didn't need help to beat the Germans out of its land.

Oh, and Russia on multiple occasions stated that it is not a part in this conflict, which an internal Ukrainian one.
Russia may send some intel to novorossia - I wouldn't know, but even that is a speculation. But you are right on the account of Novorossia and most of Ukraine being historically Russia (having been split off by Lenin in 1917 after the red colour revolution), with Russians living on those lands for centuries.
1104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: March 06, 2015, 11:33:19 AM
CyberBerkut published intercepted Ukrainian plans for sweeps of Mariupol. So far over 100 people have been arrested there:
http://ria.ru/world/20150306/1051217830.html

1105  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: March 05, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Add to that:

Ukraine’s parliament adopts law on increasing army size to 250,000 people
http://tass.ru/en/world/781203

Something's cooking if the Ukies bolstered their wishful thinking.
By the way, the very same parliament discussed a law giving and automatic 3 year imprisonment for anyone criticizing the Ukrainian government. Don't know if they passed it, but it sounds democratic enough...

A thought: the way Ukrainian junta behaves, reminds me of the jackal in the cartoon Maugli, always hiding behind the tiger's back...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd8Wi8uxQUE

Hmm... looks like I am not the only one. Someone made a brilliant re-cut of the old Soviet film to reflect the current political situation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAfSEMK7Nhg
1106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" on: March 05, 2015, 10:02:53 PM
So it does. And the CIA's head visited Kiev a couple of days ago, which is also and event foreshadowing an escalation of the conflict.
Last two times this led UAF to the catastrophic defeat. So I think it's a kind of good news.

Not for all the civilians that will start dying again once Ukies resume their attacks, bolstered by the US presence on the ground.



And what tee-rex said:

Arms supplies to Kiev not in line with Arms Trade Treaty — Russian diplomat
http://tass.ru/en/world/781250

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MOSCOW, March 5. /TASS/. The weapons supplies to Kiev contradict the Arms Trade Treaty that became effective last year, the Russian Foreign Ministry’s official spokesman, Alexander Lukashevich, said on Thursday.

"Not only the United States, but a whole range of European states, which unexpectedly emerged in this field, and in particular Finland [showed up in weapons supplies issue to Ukraine]," Lukashevich said.

"We responded rather sharply and publicly to the plans of supplies of some equipment to Ukraine which can be used in carrying out combat actions," the diplomat said.
1107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: March 05, 2015, 09:56:54 PM
Putin is re-building the burnt bridges in Europe.

Putin: E.Ukraine situation difficult, at least cities not being destroyed
http://rt.com/news/238077-russia-putin-ukraine-italy/



Donetsk republic hands over 23 bodies of Ukrainian troops killed near Illovaisk
http://tass.ru/en/world/781374



Ukraine military pull back convoys of heavy weapons, restrict monitors’ advance — OSCE
http://tass.ru/en/world/781366

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On the outskirts of the town of Schastye, 23 kilometres north of Luhansk, the mission saw a truck towing a 122mm howitzer in the western direction and also it "spotted a 152mm self-propelled howitzer, heading from Stanytsia Luhanska in a northerly direction."

At the same time, the SMM underscored that they managed to follow the convoy at a distance of only a few kilometres as the Ukrainian side restricted their advance farther on.

"The SMM could not verify the withdrawal of heavy weapons on this occasion due to a restriction on its freedom of movement," the document says.

In this light, it is important to note a released transcripts of intercepted radio communications between Ukrainian command and one of their artillery units, telling that the unit should not fire that day as OCSE observers are nearby, but don't know about their location. In case them come across, the unit commander was to tell the observers that they are preparing to pull out.
1108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: March 05, 2015, 09:52:12 PM
Today is a day of border detentions.

1. Graham Philips - one of the few, if not the only Western journalist covering the events in Donbass since the start - came to UK for vacation, where he was detained by the British police and questioned for 4 hours. In a later Skype interview he said that the British authorities cross-questioned him on what he did in Donbass and told him that he undermines the official British line on the events in Ukraine (presumably reporting the truth about the events there)

2. A group of Polish representatives from Change (if I am not mistaken) party, who came to Ukraine to commemorate the Volyn massacre, were detained at the border control. It turned out SBU had then on black list (even though some of them never visited Ukraine before). They got a 3-year ban on entering the country. Moreover they described the interrogation as unpleasant and and the detention as unlawful - as EU citizens they have a visum-free entry to Ukraine. They said in the interview that they ere openly told that they are undermining Ukrainian historical policy (which denies the Volyn massacre).
1109  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" on: March 05, 2015, 09:41:09 PM
"Politicians and the media are using Vladimir Putin and Ukraine to justify military expansionism. It’s dangerous folly"

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war

The most important part from the article to discuss here (and for those who are tldr):

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Hundreds of US troops are arriving in Ukraine this week to bolster the Kiev regime’s war with Russian-backed rebels in the east. Not to be outdone, Britain is sending 75 military advisers of its own. As 20th-century history shows, the dispatch of military advisers is often how disastrous escalations start. They are also a direct violation of last month’s Minsk agreement, negotiated with France and Germany, that has at least achieved a temporary ceasefire and some pull-back of heavy weapons. Article 10 requires the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Ukraine.

The above, if true, seems to be foreshadowing a further exacerbation of the bloody conflict in Ukraine. The U.S. is likely running out of time to start another full-fledged war in Europe in an effort to postpone a seemingly inevitable economic collapse.

So it does. And the CIA's head visited Kiev a couple of days ago, which is also and event foreshadowing an escalation of the conflict.

By the way, The Guardian, and to some extent The Associated Press are the few remaining Western English-language media that I still have respect for.
1110  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Soldiers Readying for Ukraine Deployment on: March 05, 2015, 09:36:10 PM
So the US and the 51st state going to send more stuff to the rebels and now they are sending troops as well to guard this new lot, as Porky-Rats&Co are not really trustworthy when they see valuables around. OK I get it, but this kind of logistics still seems to be a bit overcomplicated Smiley.

Thank you for a great laugh, Snail2, you made my day.  Grin
1111  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Soldiers Readying for Ukraine Deployment on: March 05, 2015, 12:16:41 PM
Even tho USA tends to get their nose in other countries bussinesses quite alot, this one is called for, Putin did a horrible thing helping in the fight against the Ukrainians.
I have watched many reports from Ukraine, both from the one side and the other, and its obvious that there is aggression against Ukrainian people taking place there.

What they need to do is to sit at a table and solve this matter diplomaticaly, because theyre ruining both sides and their economy with this war, but if that is not possible as an
option, then by all means i hope US rocks their cradle, i just hope it doesnt turn into something even bigger, involving surrounding countries..and worse..

cheers

If you noticed, Russia, Germany and France were doing just that, several times, with good prospects, and after each time, there came one false flag or another, then CIA chief visits Kiev (happened yesterday, by the way), and then Kiev nazis start a new round of offensive against the population of Novorossia.

What is called for, is a deployment of UN peacekeepers, including Russian, but this proposition is consistently blocked.

Oh, and given that the prospects for peace after the last Minsk talks were so good, Nudelman said that US will supply troops and weapons to Kiev and extend sanctions against Russia. You see the logic, right.

PS: I find the hypocrisy interesting by the way. US toppling the legitimate government in Lybia or Iraq turned out to be a bad thing, but Ukraine surely must be different, and toppling the legitimate government there is a good thing. Ha. Tell it to thousands of people dead and a million left without homes, who fled from war to Russia. I am not even starting on the proposed "goodness" of the proposed toppling on the legitimate government of Russia.

PSS: If USA send ground troops and even more weapons to Ukraine, it might just be enough of a provocation for Russia to unilaterally send in its peacekeepers to protect the predominantly Russian population of Novorossia from manslaughter on ethnic grounds (notice my use of euphemism for "genocide"). However, my hope is that Putin continues with the peaceful diplomacy line that Russia kept to over the last year, and denies the US hawks the pleasure of an all-out war.
1112  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Putin Critic Shot Dead at Kremlin on: March 04, 2015, 09:03:55 PM

Now back to facts.

Spokesperson for the Investigation committee, Markin, said that investigation is made difficult by all the info-war desinformation floating around. He further said that any official information regarding this case will come from the Investigation Committee, the rest is hearsay.
http://ria.ru/incidents/20150303/1050701302.html

That is what you call a fact in Russia? An official told you that only the official facts are true and everyone else must be lying? Dude you live in a dictatorship.

No, that's not what either I or the IC said, but I applaud you for twisting the statement for your own propaganda use.

Again that they are the official source of information on the progress of the investigation. They are very open about it, sharing the version they are working on and they welcome contributions.

Some more info:
http://rt.com/news/237577-fsb-nemtsov-suspects-identified/

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The politician’s murder could have been provocation to destabilize the political situation in Russia, according to the Russian Investigative Committee.

They are also looking into four other possible reasons behind Nemtsov’s killing. It could have been linked to the threats the politician received over his stance on the Charlie Hebdo shootings in Paris, or the current civil war in eastern Ukraine. The politician’s business activities and a possible assault related to his personal life are also being investigated.



By the way, a driver of a car that passed 3 minutes after the murder, sent the video from his front-camera recorder to a journalist, who published it and passed the material on to the IC (with the drivers consent).
http://www.forbes.ru/news/281903-zhurnalistka-vylozhila-zapis-videoregistratora-s-mesta-ubiistva-nemtsova



I need help from an American to construct an analogy. Can you name an American politician from the organised opposition to Obama (and the two parties in US are not in opposition to each other). Paul Craig Roberts can be a candidate for opposition, but he's a loner, and he won't fit the next requirement: He must have actively tried to dismantle the American defence system and economy, and sold key American interests to either Russia or China. He should also spend a lot of time in the Russian embassy on consultations on how to implement regime change in America and receive grants to this end. Any such American politician come to mind? He's then be a good analogy for Nemcov.
1113  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nobel Peace Prize Chairman Demoted For Decision To Give Obama 2009 Award on: March 04, 2015, 08:44:45 PM
The report on RT:
http://rt.com/news/237465-nobel-peace-chairman-deposed/

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The Nobel Peace Prize Committee’s chairman has been removed from his post for the first time in the award’s 114-year history. He’s been criticized over a number of the panel’s controversial picks, like US president and the EU.

Ousted Chairman Thorbjoern Jagland, a former Norwegian Labor prime minister, had been in charge of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee for six years before he was voted out on Tuesday. He will remain a member of the committee, but the leading role has been passed on to the panel's deputy chairman, Kaci Kullmann Five, a former conservative party leader.

“There’s a new committee with new people, and new people can always lead to new considerations,” Kullmann Five told journalists. “Jagland has been a good leader for the committee for six years.”

Seems it's just the case of "the new broom sweeps in a new way", as they say in Russia. Smiley
Obama won't be the reason. Norway is extremely pro-US, with another Norwegian, and former PM from Workers' Party (what a joke) now leading NATO.
1114  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: March 04, 2015, 08:35:43 PM
Russian border patrol registered that Ukraine placed mines on two car bridges, leading to Crimea, over Chongar strait:
http://www.interfax.ru/russia/428026
1115  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: March 04, 2015, 08:33:43 PM
OCSE observers reported that Donetsk airport got hit by a strong artillery barrage, endangering salvage workers there. So far over 370 bodies of Ukrainian soldiers have been recovered there so far.
http://tass.ru/en/world/781100

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MOSCOW, March 4. /TASS/. Defense Ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic has registered 25 violations of the ceasefire regime, including four instances of artillery shelling since Tuesday afternoon Eduard Basurin, the ministry spokesman said on Wednesday.



17th column with Russian humanitarian aid has delivered its cargo and is returning back. 80 trucks went to Lugansk and 80 - to Donetsk. The cargo was water, medicines and food - the primary items that needed to keep the population of the republics alive.



There was an interesting report from a village near Debalcevo. It's called Hrjashevatyj. Before Ajdar took over the village, a litle over 100 people lived there. After the Nazis were beaten out, they levelled the village with the ground. 34 villagers, who resisted Ajdar, died at their hand. IF not for the heroic resistance of the villagers, the battalion might have pushed all the way to Lugansk.



Fun fact, the republican army in Debalcevo appreciated delivery of the night vision equipment from the USA, and asks US StateDep to send over more to Ukraine, so that it can end up with them.  Grin
1116  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: March 04, 2015, 08:24:50 PM
There was an interesting event a Holland, described by a Western author of a MH-17 book as a PR-stunt.
Journalists were allowed to see the remains of the Boeing. They were led into 2 hangars, and shown the debris. Three discrepancies hit the eye:

1. The debris were stored haphazardly about the hangar. If there was an ongoing investigation, there would have been an  outline of the Boeing drawn on the floor, and the fragments would have been placed according to their origin so as to reconstruct the plane.
2. Journalists were told that they see ALL the fragments of the plane. Meanwhile, another group of Russian TV journalists were at the crash site at the very same time and showed that many large fragments and personal belongings were left behind under the open sky.
3. Journalists were told that some of the fragments were off-limits and must not be filmed under any circumstance.

Let's also remember that the only country that release all the information that it had about the situation in the Ukrainian airspace is still Russia. USA and Ukraine itself are keeping mum, not releasing the information. And the fighter pilot Voloshin still hasn't been questioned by the investigators.
1117  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: March 03, 2015, 05:27:16 PM
Ukrainian radical MP Ljashko is again showing Europe and USA how the democracy is done the proper way - by the means of a fistfight in the Parliament. Video in the following article:

http://ria.ru/world/20150303/1050658613.html
1118  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Putin Critic Shot Dead at Kremlin on: March 03, 2015, 05:09:41 PM
Putin is a dictator at the level of north korean and venezuelan and cuban nutjobs. He needs to get stopped. At least the critic was enjoying the highest quality pussy judging by his "girlfriend".

And your assertion that Putin is a dictator is based on what exactly? Because Obama told you to think so?
He needs to be stopped? Stopped doing what? Rebuilding Russia? You'd find that over 80% of Russians do not agree with you and they don't want to go back to the murderous 90s of US-controlled Yeltsin. US State Department are busy at it, by the way, as this provocation sabotage, the murder of Nemcov testifies.

Apropos Obama, he was very quick to jump on the Russia-bashing bandwagon today (well, he is probably the one calling the shots, literally), saying how terrible Russia is in light of this murder.



Now back to facts.

Spokesperson for the Investigation committee, Markin, said that investigation is made difficult by all the info-war desinformation floating around. He further said that any official information regarding this case will come from the Investigation Committee, the rest is hearsay.
http://ria.ru/incidents/20150303/1050701302.html

The investigation group has a number of clues showing that Ukrainian SBU is involved. They are now checking information that the SBU order to kill Nemcov was executed by Chechen terrorists from the so-called "Dudaev" battalion that fights on the side of Kiev-Nazis. The specific suspects is a married couple of Adam Osmaev (who is also investigated in relation to an attempted assassination of Putin) and Amina Okueva. According to the working hypothesis, they are thus making revenge for the death of their leader, Isa Munaev, who was killed during the fighting in Donbass.
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/03/03/dudaev/
1119  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Putin Critic Shot Dead at Kremlin on: March 03, 2015, 11:29:47 AM
Remember just before the murder he said he had proof that Russia was sending troops to Ukraine. That is how you get shot in Russia. You tell the truth.

I don't think that was the biggest reason why he was killed. What repercussions would Putin have to face if he Nemcov revealed this evidence? 1: We all know he had troops sent to Ukraine.. but that doesn't matter, because he'll just continue to deny it, even if there's irrefutable evidence.

Besides that, if Putin cared about that proof so much, 2: he wouldn't have had Nemcov killed because everyone would assume it was by his hands.

1: No, we don't. "Everybody knows" is a dangerous expression, which really means "there is no proof, but someone with an agenda beats this into everybody's heads that they start thinking that they know". We can suspect. I would say Russia has a few advisors and is probably sharing intelligence with the leadership of DNR and LNR. However, all the claims of the "troops" are ludicrous exactly because they would have been so easy to prove by the adversary - the USA - who has all its satellites and grounds intel trained on this spot, looking for Russian troops and failing to find them for already almost a year.

PS, EDIT: There is one thing that I find fascinating. Is it so difficult to believe that a multi-million population can produce enough warriors, who are capable of holding off an aggressor? They are fighting for their homes, their families, their land. Unlike the attackers, they are highly motivated. They have access to the Ukrainian military hardware - both what was present in the military bases of Donetsk and Lugansk oblast's and what they captured from the invading forces. And finally, they have military command, who trained in the Soviet Army, many having the battle experience from Soviet-time hot-spots. They don't need Russian help (except when it comes to food and medicines). Just like Soviet Union didn't need help to beat the Germans out of its land.

2: Exactly. I said it before. Nemcov was hardly a problem for Putin while alive. His "opposition", having discredited itself by plundering Russia in favour of the Americans during the 90s, hardly ad 0.5% of support. While dead, Nemcov has suddenly become a much bigger problem. One can try demonise Putin in many ways, but you can't call him stupid to do this... A stupid politician wouldn't have survived in the turbulent post-90s Russia and wouldn't have managed to bring back order and restore some of the destroyed economy.
1120  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Boris Nemtsov, leading Putin critic, shot and killed in Moscow on: March 03, 2015, 11:21:05 AM
Nemtsov has long ceased to be a figure of any importance and was hardly noticed in politics.

If that were the case, then what's your reasoning to why he was murdered? And if he were insignificant, why is this news making the rounds?

Ask the question of who benefits from his death, and who makes the most noise.

I already posted the following link, which is the best description of the reasons and background for his murder that I've seen so far:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/ladas-investigation-who-benefits-from-the-death-of-the-russian-oppositioner-boris-nemtsov/

As for news making the rounds. It's just like with MH-17 failed false flag. Once it becomes apparent that this murder cannot achieve the goal of creating another "Ukraine" out of Russia - creating instability there - then his death will disappear from the Western MSM front pages.

By the way, saying that Nemcov was a leading critic, is about as correct as saying that Arnold Schwarzenegger is the most prominent politician of the USA.
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