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1101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 24, 2017, 09:58:34 PM
In most projects I invest I have only some basic knowledge about their field. I think what's most important for investors is the team members and possibilities of a project and this one has both of it.

There are too many ICOs nowadays to deeply analyze them all. There have been some articles discussing 2 opposed strategies: “Spray & Pray” versus “Cherry Picking”.

https://blog.bitmex.com/spray-and-pray-the-ico-investment-strategy/
http://whalesfriend.com/ico-strategy/

Maybe the best strategy is to eliminate only the very worst and invest in everything else.

In the end investing in an ICO stays a gamble. Even a good team with a innovative idea can sometimes fail.
All you can do is research as much as possible about the ICO you are interested so I am more the fan of the "Cherry Picking" strategy.

Definitely a fan of cherry picking. Every loss i have accrued since i got into the crypto space has been due to lack of research. 75% of my impulsive purchases, ended up been duds.
1102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 24, 2017, 09:56:09 PM
Is there already an announcement from the team if they are in contact with some online shops to implement the UTrust payment option or is still too early to ask this?

I would also like to know this. Even if the product works flawlessly, it will need to be used by online shops or other sellers. No usage of the token means no burning of tokens either  Cheesy

Based on their roadmap the platform test for api in merchants to integrate and test with merchant checkout mechanism to be start  as early as 2nd quarter of year 2018.

So it's probably a bit to early to talk about specific shops that will add UTrust. I thought so. Nevertheless it would be great to get names of partnering shops as early as possible. That could give the upcoming ICO a boost, too.
It is still early to talk about partners, in 2018 they will complete the platform then and conclude contracts with online auctions. The next year may increase the capitalization of crypto-currencies to a trillion dollars or more and this project will be the first in this area.

Well, that's the hope, better adoption will be favorable for everyone currently involved in the space. Utrust does have some heavy competitions though, so the winner is ultimately dependent on who is first to develops a sound platform and foster the aforementioned biz relationships.
1103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 24, 2017, 09:36:28 PM
Is there already an announcement from the team if they are in contact with some online shops to implement the UTrust payment option or is still too early to ask this?

I would also like to know this. Even if the product works flawlessly, it will need to be used by online shops or other sellers. No usage of the token means no burning of tokens either  Cheesy

Based on their roadmap the platform test for api in merchants to integrate and test with merchant checkout mechanism to be start  as early as 2nd quarter of year 2018.

So it's probably a bit to early to talk about specific shops that will add UTrust. I thought so. Nevertheless it would be great to get names of partnering shops as early as possible. That could give the upcoming ICO a boost, too.

Doubt they will have any partnering businesses till post ICO. Most of this ICO project are ideas without funding. Most business won't consider a partnership with Utrust till they have a verifiable liquidity.
1104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 24, 2017, 09:31:01 PM
Crypto market is not forex, then Eliot's waves and other methods do not work. Crypto currency is a wild west. There are only manipulations on the news. How do bots adapt to this?


after awhile of trading, you develop some format that tend to benefit you favorably 60-65% of the time, so it's not surprising that a script could be created to emulate this with a higher percentage. The only issue i keep coming back to is how to maintain buoyancy when several investors are utilizing this same scripts. sure numbers vary between different individuals but i doubt it will keep market saturation at bay. Anyway, time will tell.
1105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 24, 2017, 09:23:42 PM
This concept is promising, but it seems to be another centralized marketplace with buyer protection, but with crypto currencies as payment option.

Is it possible to implement UTRUST platform to other webshops/marketplaces as well?


It's not another marketplace. UTrust is payment option where the buyer can choose to pay with all the major crypto currencies or UTrust tokens.

Exactly what sozial said, it's a payment platform that facilitates payment with crypto currencies. It's implementation into several webshops/marketplace, is dependent on those business choice to integrate it.
1106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 24, 2017, 09:16:46 PM
The growth of this ANN only shows how valuable this investment is, and we will not regret it, Congratulations to the Real Team and for the success achieved, it is only the beginning of a great success

Yes, we should have a pretty big ROI on our investments  Smiley

One can only hope but there is no guarantee in the crypto space. Anyway, with regards to this token, i sense the growth will be slow but steady
1107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 24, 2017, 09:14:35 PM
I think that not everything is so simple .. to develop a strategy with effectively algorithm - it takes years of work and research, we are too superficial in this field.

Makes me wonder why there is even human voting involved at all.

DAFs enable their subscribers to intervene in the building of the best mix (Blend) of strategies, by regularly letting their subscribers vote on which strategies they want the DAF to follow.

Something tells me there is a meta-strategy at play here.

I thought strategies in this case also means what type of assets the DAF is focused on, but i could be wrong. And maybe having votes on the strategy isn't a bad thing, since a bot can't know when for example China is fudding/closing shit.

That is an argumentum ad populum Smiley Just because the majority votes to believe that Santa Claus is not real, does not mean it is true. (For your information, Santa Claus is real.)

My guess is the data provided by the users is utilized as a guiding/learning tool
1108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 24, 2017, 09:08:34 PM
Etherum has dropped last week, that days are a nice time to invest some Etherum to REAL ,yes ,i am the one of them.

Just what i was thinking, and probably one could use this kind of projects as their ETH multiplier Smiley, least that's what i am going to do, if i don't end up being as hodler. And to be perfectly honest, with latest investements like this one, i am going to be a big time holder.

It slipped my mind, but is there a set amount per eth allocation, or is the allocation amount equal to the current price  of ETH during time of donation
1109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 24, 2017, 09:04:16 PM
Wow already more than 100 pages, that's nice.

The ICO will surely go smoothly  Smiley

Thread page count has nothing to do with the success of an ico, but the thread space has been efficiently used to expand on the project rather serve as a pit for useless shilling.
1110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 24, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
I hope dev go for a presale before this enthusiasm dies. In crypto things change faster than you imagine. Always better to cash In on when it is favourable.
In my honest opinion this ICO will be mostly for big investors, whales and companies. Most speculators won't like the idea that this token will be slowly appreciate instead a high volume pump and dump like many sh!tcoins.
that is so true, basically because most ico investors do not buy into ideas, but buy in for a quick profit, so after the ico, they move a pump and then dump for quick profits and that is a strategy.

not for all of tokens. Some tokens not dumping. Look at Popolous for example.

Because this is a project a little complex to grasp, only the ones that know will invest, so most of the people that will be on exchanges won't dump, or at least not right away, so the value of the token will rise slowly, and when the ecosystem is fully online and with clients, then the liquidity will rise Cheesy.
I'm sure there are plenty of people here who don't know anything about accounting and yet they will invest. have faith.
In most projects I invest I have only some basic knowledge about their field. I think what's most important for investors is the team members and possibilities of a project and this one has both of it.
I like what PAYPIE offers - reliable project, unfortunately the ICO of this project happened at a time when my money was stuck in other projects! But hopefully soon buy some tokens, when will this be possible

I wouldn't say the money is stuck somewhere else as much as in ppl are currently weary to invest due to the high influx of scam project and current volatility of BTC. Anyway, as aforementioned by a earlier member, paypie's uniqueness will hopefully keep ou ICO pnd. That's should hopefully encourage solid growth over time
1111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Islapdonkey coin - The coin for Expose on: September 24, 2017, 05:39:26 PM
no one want to help
good because islapdonkeydonkey scam anyway

Hey, the pain you must be going thru. Lol. you go ahead and release another scam ico and see how quick I will burst your ass. stupid donkey
1112  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Islapdonkey is a Serial Scammer and Liar!!!!!BEWARE! on: September 24, 2017, 05:34:45 PM
You are too afraid to reply because you cannot think of anything to counter my claims. You have been exposed and you will remain exposed.


Islapdonkey is a scammer confirmed, please mark trust accordingly

Am too busy to check your little thread every day. Sorry. Anyway, since you blatantly rehashed my statement You have been exposed and you will remain exposed.
I believe I know who am dealing with. I used that comment numerous times on your Nebule scam thread page before it was deleted. Lol, it's actually funny to envision the scammer holding a grudge against me now Grin I will be watching your countless profiles and soon as you list another one, am pouncing right back on you. Have a good day.




1113  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Islapdonkey is a Serial Scammer and Liar!!!!!BEWARE! on: September 24, 2017, 05:25:56 PM
Islapdonkey is now confirmed to be an impersonator




https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2181753.0

I am telling you what this scammer plans to do:
steal the identification of a chinese person and make a scam ICO out of it.

Please warn everyone!!


Quote
I need someone to provide me with identification card to use for completing id verification on jubi. I will pay you 0.03 btc for it. Keep in mind, it will take three days to process the id verification and payment is not due to everything has cleared on the jubi end. thanks. Pm if interested.

Yes am not a resident of China, i used a fake id no to join Jubi. I am so guilty Roll Eyes
1114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 22, 2017, 05:22:33 PM
Imo this one is a long hodl. Flippers be aware Wink
yeah this project wont be quick gains everybody investing should be aware of that Smiley but i see great gains in the 2018-2019 from todays small investment Cheesy
Yes, very true, as they even say in their white paper that, maybe as little as $1000 worth of REAL tokens (depending on price of property) could be used to invest in a property. Token holders will get a share of property income, and if it's wholesale, you even get your initial tokens you invested with back. It's a very lucrative enterprise!  Cool

nice, as token holders we can get profit only for holding REAL token, right?
So REAL is planning to pay dividends of what do you mean? That would be a great idea, but could be hard getting listed on exchanges, because some exchanges don't like tokens which pay dividends.
No, REAL token holders wont get a share of property income, but RPP holder will (Real Property Participants), you can buy RPP with your REAL token.

REAL Property Participation or RPP will represent the shares on each property. Each investor will be able to exchange REAL tokens for this property’s participations through our platform. RPPs will also be tradable inside REAL platform so any investor will be able to transfer and sell their investment to gain liquidity.

find the right property and invest all your RPP in it. Forget about it and in about five yrs your received dividends should hopefully be larger than the original amount invested
exactly, for the long term, it seems to me this project will bring a big profit, just that you need to be patient and wait for a while
time flies imperceptibly .. if I had invested in my youth - now would have been easier to live, but it's never too late. REAL good for investment

Right! can't cry over spilled milk though. I mined several hundrred BTC around 09 and ended up dumping the ext hard drive at goodwill few months later. Shit happens
1115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 22, 2017, 05:17:17 PM
I mean, not ALL tokens. I mean this tokens:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

This 150 mln tokens was sold in full volume?
Yes of course, all of those 150 mln tokens.
You can read on the first page "SOLD OUT"

Indeed 15% of all tokens are already sold!
This is great news for this ICO, this means the crowdsale will get a lot a traction.

Cant wait for the crowdsale

yeah i wish i saw tht early. That means i can dump 20% at the start and still be on stake value as ico particpants
1116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 22, 2017, 05:13:14 PM
Given your professional background and prominent results as can be read in the wp, did you consider to raise the Equity in fiat World instead of ICO?

Of course we did consider this but when we realize the opportunity to launch a business in a still young and promising market we decided that we should put all our energy there. Now, we cannot say that we are not approached from time to time by this more traditional universe where we are coming from. For the moment, it is still on the back burner

Well that's just good news for us, the crypto community, i for example have most my assets in cryptocurrencies, so it's easier for me to participate into this.
Exactly - many people just don't have enough time (and knowledge Grin) to be able to trade daily. Napoleon will solve this problem and allow you to take profits without any hassle

When you say many people, you mean most of people? Since most of normal investors are just hodling long term,since not everyone knows enough about technical analysis to do day trading... of course then there are ico flippers but that's a different story.
Probably majority tried to day trade and found out its not easy at all. You will likely be in minus if you dont know what your doing.
With the promising bot this will be a different story.

I tried to do daytrade in the beginning. I got lucky because I just started with a pump in a coin where I bought cheaper and made like 400% (not much, because I just tested trading) and the I was like "WOW, that's so easy"... we all know what then happend, don't we?  Embarrassed

NapoleonX could help a lot of people to trade and make money.

You all make it seem like NapoleonX platform will make everyone's woe go away, if that was so, then everyone will use it and who will be left to take the loss. Even if the bots are functioning favorably, you will still need to be inclined on the subject to use it wisely.

I asked the same question, they give an answer to me that people vs ai at some point. If the market becomes one big ai, then no one left to beat for making a profit.

But still, it's impossible to everybody use napoleonx. So if it gets mass adoption still it won't have everybody's trade actions.

The ppl vs AI analogy doesn't make sense to me. cos even in casinos, when you play a machine, you technically betting against the house. So someone always has to take a loss. And if some magically algorithm will double/triple your earnings, then am wondering, who will be left holding their dick
1117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 22, 2017, 05:06:25 PM
If you really want to be in paypie I think you can use a vpn, no one will put you in jail for that. I understand the frustration of people who can't participate Beauce of law, especially for a project like paypie. So much possibility, a real bankable project with a lot of supporter.

This post is complete bs. There are law and regulations. When you have some trouble, you can't just tell them it was a great project. If someone takes your word and invest paypie and gets trouble will you compensate his loss?

These laws against crypto are such a bullshit. Every adult person should be allowed to invest in everything he/she wants.

Yes, they should. But governments never allow that, they want you to think you need their protection in every area. But at reality, governments only think of governments.
Cryptocurrencies has threatened fiat, and governments wouldnt let their fiat fall because of cryptocurrencies.

Actually it's not just the issue with fiats. the govt is trying to protect it's citizens from the numerous scam icos out there. it's akin to slapping a child's hand so he or she stops reaching into an open fire. when certain regulation is implemented around icos to dissuade scammers, a lot of govt restrictive laws will be lifted.
1118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 22, 2017, 05:01:45 PM
Imo this one is a long hodl. Flippers be aware Wink
yeah this project wont be quick gains everybody investing should be aware of that Smiley but i see great gains in the 2018-2019 from todays small investment Cheesy
Yes, very true, as they even say in their white paper that, maybe as little as $1000 worth of REAL tokens (depending on price of property) could be used to invest in a property. Token holders will get a share of property income, and if it's wholesale, you even get your initial tokens you invested with back. It's a very lucrative enterprise!  Cool

nice, as token holders we can get profit only for holding REAL token, right?
So REAL is planning to pay dividends of what do you mean? That would be a great idea, but could be hard getting listed on exchanges, because some exchanges don't like tokens which pay dividends.
No, REAL token holders wont get a share of property income, but RPP holder will (Real Property Participants), you can buy RPP with your REAL token.

REAL Property Participation or RPP will represent the shares on each property. Each investor will be able to exchange REAL tokens for this property’s participations through our platform. RPPs will also be tradable inside REAL platform so any investor will be able to transfer and sell their investment to gain liquidity.

find the right property and invest all your RPP in it. Forget about it and in about five yrs your received dividends should hopefully be larger than the original amount invested
1119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 22, 2017, 04:56:39 PM
If you really want to be in paypie I think you can use a vpn, no one will put you in jail for that. I understand the frustration of people who can't participate Beauce of law, especially for a project like paypie. So much possibility, a real bankable project with a lot of supporter.

This post is complete bs. There are law and regulations. When you have some trouble, you can't just tell them it was a great project. If someone takes your word and invest paypie and gets trouble will you compensate his loss?


The only loss you stand to attain, is a loss of capital. Seriously doubt that any govt is dedicating millions of resource to crack data packets to sniff out ico investments thru vpn.
As for the loss of capital, this can be a reality with any investment. It's the risk involved. Though you shouldn't take my advice with doing some research, but i personally feel like this is one of the safer ico that is currently out there
1120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 22, 2017, 04:45:16 PM
Given your professional background and prominent results as can be read in the wp, did you consider to raise the Equity in fiat World instead of ICO?

Of course we did consider this but when we realize the opportunity to launch a business in a still young and promising market we decided that we should put all our energy there. Now, we cannot say that we are not approached from time to time by this more traditional universe where we are coming from. For the moment, it is still on the back burner

Well that's just good news for us, the crypto community, i for example have most my assets in cryptocurrencies, so it's easier for me to participate into this.
Exactly - many people just don't have enough time (and knowledge Grin) to be able to trade daily. Napoleon will solve this problem and allow you to take profits without any hassle

When you say many people, you mean most of people? Since most of normal investors are just hodling long term,since not everyone knows enough about technical analysis to do day trading... of course then there are ico flippers but that's a different story.
Probably majority tried to day trade and found out its not easy at all. You will likely be in minus if you dont know what your doing.
With the promising bot this will be a different story.

I tried to do daytrade in the beginning. I got lucky because I just started with a pump in a coin where I bought cheaper and made like 400% (not much, because I just tested trading) and the I was like "WOW, that's so easy"... we all know what then happend, don't we?  Embarrassed

NapoleonX could help a lot of people to trade and make money.

You all make it seem like NapoleonX platform will make everyone's woe go away, if that was so, then everyone will use it and who will be left to take the loss. Even if the bots are functioning favorably, you will still need to be inclined on the subject to use it wisely.
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