This is our next boogeyman.

I'm wondering who is going to stand up and be counted. Exchanges are tarts who'll list anything. It's safe to say Bitpay has dropped any pretence of being all that interested in preserving Bitcoin's principles. Coinbase have wavered over the years. Everyone else will follow the majority.

If 2X actually happens in the way it's currently intended then who's left to support a non 2X chain that doesn't feel it's safe? I can't really think of anyone.  

It's an alt. People want to control Bitcoin.

I don't see what the problem with a 2MB increase is. I do see a problem with the timeline. It's unrealistic to expect everyone to jump blindly into code that doesn't seem to exist yet and I don't think all that many people will do it.

If the timing is reappraised and agreed on then great, but I have my doubts about that. In that scenario things may turn proper sporty. We'll be back to square one again in terms of Bitmain agitation plus they have that coin to pile the pressure on.

Depending on which state you're in, go to Gemini instead.

Coinbase is retail, Gemini and GDAX are exchanges. The retail operations will always be more constricted. And regardless of where you are, paying with a card is going to attract some nasty, nasty fees.

For pure effectiveness it has to be Putin. No one else has any balls or strategic vision. I suppose it helps rigging elections and framing and slaughtering rivals so you know you'll be in power for another few decades. You have the time to slow down and really plan for the future.

I remember asking Mr. Meuh what her regular appearances symbolise. He answered but I don't recall feeling enlightened. Then again maybe Mr. Meuh is actually Salma Hayek. There's no law against successful actors posting here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

That's Satoshi. As you can see his last public proclamation was late 2010. He continued to email a handful of people for a short while after and then disappeared.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BitcoinTalk

There's a very brief summary of this forum's history.

I read about it in 2009. The implications didn't sink in and I didn't get going until 2013 or so.

Do I regret it? It was literally worthless back then and I suspect the mining would've done such horrid things to my laptop I would've stopped before finding a block so not really.

At that point there were a few hundred people involved and it was just another idea floating around. Anyone who did make serious bank from that period fully deserves to have capitalised on their vision, though I suspect most people have blown it and are long gone.

Buy Bitcoin from wherever, but like I said you'll pay extra for a card purchase, withdraw the BTC to your wallet and then send it to an exchange to buy the XEM.

Bittrex is probably the best option for XEM buying these days. Poloniex is not the place where you'd want a support ticket problem.

All Changelly do is buy and sell on Poloniex and stick their profit on top.

Open a thread on the meta section for starters.

I think Theymos is the go to guy for this, but he must have a big old workload.

Forget Changelly and forget buying directly. Buy Bitcoin and convert. You'll open up hundreds more options. Changelly sound like piss takers.

Bitcoin via cards is always going to sting but you could look into Bitstamp, Coinbase or Bittylicious. It'll cost far less by bank transfer though.

It would be shame if they copied all of Gox's moves.




1 - $89k, I do not trust round figures. 10k is still fuck all and the first step on the true journey upwards.

2 - Matrix meme. I would only sell anything if it was impossible to spend it directly on the things I want.

3 - Yes. Anyone would be mental not to.

$10,000 is great. It's also neither here nor there. It's big but nowhere near big enough. That price would also mean that it was truly on its way to fulfilling its potential, not completing it.

Anyone selling all at that figure, unless it means a genuinely life changing amount which means owning several hundred coins, would do well to sit back and observe.

5 coins adds up to $50,000. In much of the world that's not going to take you very far.

Other than turning off the internet they really don't. They do however have absolute control over the fiat aspect of things and that's more than enough to keep a lid on it if they really wanted to. There'll always be people who route around that, but the majority they want to turn away from it would do so.

This is v odd. When I woke up today and moved my toilet area around I did not expect to see such a price. Well done away.

Maybe they don't for crypto only. You'll have to ask.

https://zaif.jp/trade_xem_btc

Maybe try this? They've been around for a while now and have big volumes. I don't know what the deal is with foreigners and verification.

Aye. It's properly weird, like the subject that dare not speak its name but it's hardly the height of controversy. It was a silly idea to start with that was never going to be very workable. If they wanted to do it all they had to do was sell it in a straightforward manner. It should've been squashed within the opening months.

It can't sit there forever so I wonder when it is going to be addressed.

They really shouldn't have let the silver thing fester. Now it's a ridiculous amount of money, most stakeholders are in nursing homes and they still haven't decided. Soon it's going to be a staggering amount. They need to open a discussion and some voting or come up with a proposal.

BTC-e laundered the coins first and then they were free to be sold elsewhere.

As an actual market maker it's never been all that. Once you have a pile of clean coins they can be fed into wherever else.

I haven't spotted anything.

I do not think it's realistic at all. $1 XEM could well be but the NEM action seems to be happening mainly on private chains and there comes a point where that hype can only go so far. ETH will find out the same thing eventually. The things they're planning won't come to full fruition in a year and a bit.

You won't find me objecting though.