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11021  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] Lealana Silver and Brass LTC and BTC coins on: April 20, 2015, 04:48:56 AM
Those are some seriously great grades! Congrats!
Thanks. They really are beautiful.
would you do bulk discounts for the brass tenths?
That depends on how much of a discount you are looking for. I will send you a PM.
11022  Other / Meta / Re: BFL subpoena on: April 20, 2015, 04:07:59 AM
The term "Private Message" isn't as private as you might think.

We should start calling it Public Message with a twist of "maybe" privacy if no legal authority asks for it.


The term "PM" is actually "Personal Message". If you want something to be private then you should PGP encrypt it to the recipient.
11023  Economy / Services / Re: girlbtc.com SIG DESIGN contest on: April 20, 2015, 02:27:54 AM
I have been asked to act as escrow for this contest. Please see below for the escrow agreement. Thanks.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

This is quickseller from bitcointalk. Today is April 19 2015

The escrow address for the Girlbtc.com signature campaign contest is :1Gz5FxpFgsQpzChTtEJkgDAc8CogkxF5fQ

The escrow fee is: 0.0075 BTC

This is in reference to the thread located: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1030340.0

As long as there are funds in the escrow address to cover payment to all participants then it is safe to submit an entry

pokerowned/girlbtc.com will choose a winner no later then 2359 April 26 2015 (forum time) at which time the winner who pokerowned/girlbtc.com chooses will need to post or provide the BB codes of the signature they had previously submitted. Once pokerowned/girlbtc.com confirms receipt of the BB codes then I will send funds in escrow (minus my fee) to the BTC address of the winner’s choice. It is my understanding that the prize will be 0.20 BTC

Thank you.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVNJvQAAoJEFMt0pDwvrUWS8kH/jATHYW/wsolgDYAYY+3LH+D
eMdPLqVcy3sXXHXmlpkH9bxpQ829dedSRnviB2K1Fu6J1/x6xtAzdfTilNjadqQG
Q/EES2mvv3JE1gcAb+Qb5OaEKqwT/U21p/0UmIwYowYY0R/0Myr6p2Rq+j475YCw
ZVhR0UuBoSWqgem80ShZoOksOdeqhgMHZ7WTj+5uSfH+P+N7o3cBWlxcl4yqlpzg
Om3B9uPGsxU1W/d6IpDy/mhF9I1IGWsCU+NyAwbsjghOIbirtRXbputid45BOnRE
Gg4T2l8X97WHkkRkwULM6MRj9tP5J6cHu9F4/mqtZlWK0IoB1taEb26m04Q70NA=
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-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
11024  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitmain and Issues With 2 Batches of S5 orders totaling almost $3000 on: April 19, 2015, 11:40:37 PM

1. The size of the home doesnt really matter. I have a 2900 square foot 3 lvl townhome and the s5's r in the basement and on the first floor i can hear the mini turbines just a spinnin away! They r loud as hell and thats with an entire floor between me and them.
I had two running in my apartment for a few months and it wasn't that bad when I had two doors closed between me and the miners, although I probably just got used to their noise. When I sold them, I 100% noticed the fact that they were not there anymore (due to their lack of noise). I would say they might be appropriate to run in your home if you had space in your garage, however I don't think this would technically make them a "home miner". 


3. Ur right to a point. A buyer in their s5 thread asked if these r brand new and got replies stating they are brand new. I also got told they r brand new but they deff are NOT new not even close! With that said they have sold plenty of miners so far so they should be selling them about as fast they r making them and if they do end up making more then they r selling then lower the prices or reduce production to make up for that...dont take old dirty beat to hell miners from ur farm and send them to buyers like me while replacing the old and in my case repaired one with the brand new one and go on telling buyers brand new! They think because they r in china they r immune to legal issues but thats just not true. Sure its harder but its not imposible at all and most of all if the chinese govt gets enough complaints they can and will take action not because they feel we r right and bitmain is wrong but because they dont want to deal with the added spam on their end which isnt ideal but a solution is a solution. Bitmain has gotten too big for their own good and they think they r untouchable but they rely on customers to survive...without us they will lose a big chunk of their income so these chinamen need to learn not to kill the golden goose. Even the most ignorant of ignorant people know this!
Sales are not going to be even throughout the batch, and it is difficult to determine what the pace of sales is going to be. It is also possible (although unlikely) that the entire batch is not going to sell and they could just decide they will use the remaining miners to mine for themselves.

IMO the fact that a miner is "used" is a moot point as long as it works as advertised and is covered by the same warranty. TBH I think that by arguing that they are used you are only going to distract from your other points which do seem to have some validity to them.
11025  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitmain and Issues With 2 Batches of S5 orders totaling almost $3000 on: April 19, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
I agree that the S5's were really much too loud for home use (unless you have a large amount of space between the miners and your living area. However anyone buying a large number of miners is unlikely to have a setup that involves a large number of miners near a living area (too much power would be needed). I am not sure what the best solution would be here - probably something along the lines of offering refunds to people immediately after they received the S5 and were in a situation that would not allow them to have them on without it being a disturbance.

I don't know the details about various voltage ratings, however I do know they did advertise that efficiency would increase substantially (I believe ~.21 w/gh) when a special PSU was used.

Any miner that you buy and is not a "pre-order" is not going to be "brand new" because the manufacturer is going to need to run them between the time they produce them and the time they ship them, otherwise they would be loosing out on money they could be making - also the value of the miners depreciates over time so if they just hold them idol then they will be outright loosing money
11026  Other / Archival / Re: quickseller on: April 19, 2015, 10:42:16 PM
<snip>

Do you feel selling bitcointalk accounts puts you in a curious space, being on the default trust and all?
I could see so many ways to turn that into some coin, tho that's just me.
I am not sure why you think that I sell bitcointalk accounts. I think it should be pretty clear that I do not currently sell any. I am also not sure why you created your account just to make that statement, it really isn't all that controversial (although it is incorrect). I am sure that a good number of people in the default trust network sell bitcointalk accounts, probably just not from their account that is on default trust. If you think that I am giving positive trust to any of my accounts that I am selling/have sold in the past then you are free to bring it to my attention and if I do not give you a satisfactory answer then you are free to open a thread accusing me of such (or you can just jump straight to opening a thread), however I can assure you that is not something I engage in. Your theory has also been debunked in the past.

It's funny how you still claim that your rating is 100% accurate. Tongue

You must be extremely pretentious to go around saying that we two had an agreement while it's so clear that we never did. It's also very selfish of you to use your advantage of being in the default trust to bring down people that have bad things to say about your service but that's another story.
It is factually accurate. Any dispute about my rating is solely about semantics and the substance behind my ratings is accurate. If you really want to argue about semantics then I can modify my comment to say "After an escrow agreement was sent to worhiper_-_, he demanded changes to the escrow agreement that would put both the escrow and seller at risk, after worhiper_-_'s scammy demands were me he failed to fund the escrow address.  I would avoid doing business with this person under any circumstances" however I really don't think it is necessary.

I have also reviewed your post history and it appears that you have been one of the first people to invest in various HYIP's that eventually ended up scamming, yet you always got your money back  Roll Eyes

Quickseller, IMO changing his rating to a neutral is in your own best interest. You know why?  Because now anyone considering trading with you in the future will see that this may happen to them if they change their minds or don't like your terms of a deal and simply not trade with you to begin with.
You may be correct in saying that that people may think that I would give a negative in the event that someone  had some kind of change in circumstances and needed to back out of a trade with mutual understanding, however that was not the case in this situation. He even admits that the only reason he backed out of the deal was because he was angry, however after having a long time to "cool down" he has not gone through with the deal. If there was a mutual agreement to cancel the deal with all parties agreeing then a negative would have not even be considered. If this means that I have more difficulty conducting business in the future then so be it, however I am not going to allow a scammer to blackmail me into removing a negative I left for a scammer and that will be the cost of calling out scammers.
11027  Other / Meta / Re: BFL subpoena on: April 19, 2015, 10:09:39 PM
Does bitcointalk run some kind of casino? Does it engage in the business of betting? If not then your cited Interstate Wire Act does not show that the forum is breaking the law.

Wasn't pirate40 running a ponzi scheme on the forum? I know that there were threads about his ponzi on here. If you are saying that by not taking down scams the forum knows about they are breaking the law, and it should have been obvious that he was running a ponzi that would eventually collapse (e.g. a scam).

Bitcointalk engages in "transmission of a wire communication [...] for information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers."
Again, the fact that Theymos was not V& for pirate's f*ckup doesn't mean he is above reproach & should keep pushing the envelope. Most who break laws aren't charged. Until they are.

Before this degenerates into more internet lawyering & wiki quotin', let me point out that what you're doing now is absurd at best. You might think yourself a white knight, but in reality you're more like my clueless buddy, who started lecturing a statey when we got pulled over. From my passenger seat.
Had the cop gotten irked and as much as frisked me, it wouldn't have been his ass in the back of that cop car.

You may now return to... what is it that you do? Sell Bitcointalk accounts? Cheesy

It looks like you did not cite the entire law. According to cornell university, other relevant sections of the Interstate Wire Act are:
Quote
(b) Nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent the transmission in interstate or foreign commerce of information for use in news reporting of sporting events or contests, or for the transmission of information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers on a sporting event or contest from a State or foreign country where betting on that sporting event or contest is legal into a State or foreign country in which such betting is legal.

-snip-

(d) When any common carrier, subject to the jurisdiction of the Federal Communications Commission, is notified in writing by a Federal, State, or local law enforcement agency, acting within its jurisdiction, that any facility furnished by it is being used or will be used for the purpose of transmitting or receiving gambling information in interstate or foreign commerce in violation of Federal, State or local law, it shall discontinue or refuse, the leasing, furnishing, or maintaining of such facility, after reasonable notice to the subscriber, but no damages, penalty or forfeiture, civil or criminal, shall be found against any common carrier for any act done in compliance with any notice received from a law enforcement agency. Nothing in this section shall be deemed to prejudice the right of any person affected thereby to secure an appropriate determination, as otherwise provided by law, in a Federal court or in a State or local tribunal or agency, that such facility should not be discontinued or removed, or should be restored.

-snip-
First, in order to violate section (b), it would need to be proven that the forum is not reporting the news in relation to any bets that you think it is facilitating; I think that is a pretty high burden. Section (b) also has an exemption that states that it is okay to transmit information when the actual betting is being done in a place where it is legal to place such bets.

Do you have any evidence that such bets are being placed from/to places where it is illegal to gamble? If not then the law you cite is not being broken.

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You may now return to... what is it that you do? Sell Bitcointalk accounts?
I am not sure why so many people think that I sell bitcointalk accounts. You clearly are not playing very close attention to detail
11028  Economy / Services / Re: ➨➨ CryptoSplit.com Sig Campaign ➨ Full/Senior/Hero/Legendary ➨ Up to 0.10BTC/Week!! on: April 19, 2015, 09:52:23 PM

I have a genuine claim to my Doge not returned, I can prove it right now.

http://imgbox.com/cCeudZY9
I am not refunding CryptoSplit's investors. That was not what the escrowed funds were intended for. I do not engage in social justice.
11029  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FIRE SALE] Casascius 2013 loaded 1 BTC & 0.5 BTC on: April 19, 2015, 08:44:55 PM
Where in europe are you located? Do you have any business partners for your Denarium project or are you running it yourself?

We're located in Finland. For Denarium we have a wholesale partner for the Asian market, in Singapore to be specific.
I am quite a ways away from Finland so shipping would probably be pretty expensive.

Do you have anyone working on the Denarium project that is in the US?
11030  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FIRE SALE] Casascius 2013 loaded 1 BTC & 0.5 BTC on: April 19, 2015, 08:38:19 PM
Where in europe are you located? Do you have any business partners for your Denarium project or are you running it yourself?
11031  Other / Meta / Re: BFL subpoena on: April 19, 2015, 08:17:53 PM
Does bitcointalk run some kind of casino? Does it engage in the business of betting? If not then your cited Interstate Wire Act does not show that the forum is breaking the law.

Wasn't pirate40 running a ponzi scheme on the forum? I know that there were threads about his ponzi on here. If you are saying that by not taking down scams the forum knows about they are breaking the law, and it should have been obvious that he was running a ponzi that would eventually collapse (e.g. a scam).
11032  Other / Meta / Re: Mysterious deletions -- Bitcointalk hacked? on: April 19, 2015, 06:28:15 PM
The wall observer thread is self moderated so it is possible, depending on when the posts were deleted that the OP of the thread had deleted the posts, although the OP of the wall observer thread has not been online for a few days.

I understand that there are quite a good number of spam bots that try to post referral and other links on the forum, and that a good number of newbie accounts are nuked every day for this (and have their posts deleted). I would speculate that this is the most common reason for posts to be deleted when measuring by volume of posts.

I would say that the most common reason for a post to be deleted by a moderator posted by a more established (non-newbie) account would be that the post is off-topic or replied to an off topic post (which would also make it off topic).

I don't think a lot of insubstantial posts end up getting deleted, the accounts just end up getting banned.
11033  Other / Meta / Re: BFL subpoena on: April 19, 2015, 06:19:37 PM
Why don't you cite the law that makes this policy illegal? Section 230 of the Communications Decency act protects the owners of a website who publish information provided by others.

There have been a number of court cases involving ponzis on the forum and theymos (or the forum) were not held liable

Not sure if you're intentionally missing the point. The case law cited in your wiki article does not address knowingly facilitating illegal activities.
In other words, a website allowing users to post pictures & being 95% child porn is not going to benefit from Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Regardless of disclaimers.
Like I said in the past, the forum does not attempt to investigate if something is a scam or not therefore they do not have knowledge of illegal activity if there is any. Just because someone claims that something is illegal does not make it so. I ask again that you cite a law saying that the forum is breaking the law by not moderating scams.
Re. bitcointalk lawsuits: not you're referring to (links?), but the fact that theymos has not been charged with anything merely proves that bitcointalk is much more useful as a honypot, a place that a couple of fat LEO could monitor from the comfort of their office.
And providing a perfect paper trail to second-rate conmen, should their scams warrant sufficient interest.
As long as theymos cooperates, everything's fine. Thus far, he's been cooperative Smiley

I don't see your point here. So what if the forum is a de-facto honeypot? Don't break the law?

edit: link to case regarding illegal activity on the forum
11034  Other / Meta / Re: BFL subpoena on: April 19, 2015, 05:37:21 PM
A disclaimer stating that scams are not banned doesn't absolve the forum from responsibility of being a vehicle for fraud.

By that same logic, if your Bitcoin node relayed a fraudulent transaction it received it would be a vehicle for fraud, therefore it's safe to assume every Bitcoin user running a node is just as guilty as theymos as undoubtedly every Bitcoin node has relayed a fraudulent transaction.

We're not discussing logic or how things should be, had we our way. We're talking about US laws. US laws do not allow US person to run websites where people sell CI drugs, or promoting unregistered securities. This is basic stuff.

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Thankfully the law doesn't work that way and there are laws in place designed to protect website owners from the actions of their users, which is why craigslist's owners aren't in jail for the actions of people like the Craigslist Killer.

If Craigslist operators knew the ad was placed by a murderer, were informed, on multiple occasions, that the guy was killing people, and refused to take down the ad? You can be absolutely certain they'd be jailed.

Further, if most of the ads on Craigslist were made by killers, putting a disclaimer along the lines of...

or, rather, "We do not remove ads by likely killers. Thus far, it appears that roughly 95% of these ads have proven to have been placed by confirmed murderers. Use your head." just wouldn't cut the mustard Undecided
The forum has instituted a policy to generally not look into the various deals that people are considering to make. As a result it does not know if something is a scam or not. A similar thing can be said about unregistered securities as the forum does not verify that something that could be considered to be a security is properly registered.

Such policy is simply illegal in US. As I already have pointed out, "If Craigslist operators knew the ad was placed by a murderer, were informed, on multiple occasions, that the guy was killing people, and refused to take down the ad? You can be absolutely certain they'd be jailed." That's what is being discussed - users alerting Theymos of a crime taking place, and Theymos refusing to act because policy.


Why don't you cite the law that makes this policy illegal? Section 230 of the Communications Decency act protects the owners of a website who publish information provided by others.

There have been a number of court cases involving ponzis on the forum and theymos (or the forum) were not held liable
11035  Economy / Lending / Re: Quickseller Short Term Loans, up to 15 [btc] available [collateral] on: April 19, 2015, 05:33:21 PM
.06 payed 1 day early Wink
Txid: 3b907531b18ab3d3224965c4e69eee4775bf23a131e894f3c52e3cd8e40debb4


Thanks, Quick

Received. It is 0/unconfirmed now, however I am sure the tx will confirm. Please post your DRK address for me to return the collateral to you and I will once it has 1 confirmation
XbcjDgnbC8ioQQxhaBTCbHg4wLdpxiS6Hj
Returned collateral via txid 8f422c7408a851cdc75ad50b31add8342cd062d4d1453e4e119b131eda0a5ba4

Thanks for repaying on time. Let me know if you need anything else

here is a block explorer that confirms the transaction
11036  Economy / Lending / Re: Quickseller Short Term Loans, up to 15 [btc] available [collateral] on: April 19, 2015, 05:05:25 PM
.06 payed 1 day early Wink
Txid: 3b907531b18ab3d3224965c4e69eee4775bf23a131e894f3c52e3cd8e40debb4


Thanks, Quick

Received. It is 0/unconfirmed now, however I am sure the tx will confirm. Please post your DRK address for me to return the collateral to you and I will once it has 1 confirmation
11037  Other / Meta / Re: BFL subpoena on: April 19, 2015, 05:04:21 PM
A disclaimer stating that scams are not banned doesn't absolve the forum from responsibility of being a vehicle for fraud.

By that same logic, if your Bitcoin node relayed a fraudulent transaction it received it would be a vehicle for fraud, therefore it's safe to assume every Bitcoin user running a node is just as guilty as theymos as undoubtedly every Bitcoin node has relayed a fraudulent transaction.

We're not discussing logic or how things should be, had we our way. We're talking about US laws. US laws do not allow US person to run websites where people sell CI drugs, or promoting unregistered securities. This is basic stuff.

Quote
Thankfully the law doesn't work that way and there are laws in place designed to protect website owners from the actions of their users, which is why craigslist's owners aren't in jail for the actions of people like the Craigslist Killer.

If Craigslist operators knew the ad was placed by a murderer, were informed, on multiple occasions, that the guy was killing people, and refused to take down the ad? You can be absolutely certain they'd be jailed.

Further, if most of the ads on Craigslist were made by killers, putting a disclaimer along the lines of...

or, rather, "We do not remove ads by likely killers. Thus far, it appears that roughly 95% of these ads have proven to have been placed by confirmed murderers. Use your head." just wouldn't cut the mustard Undecided
The forum has instituted a policy to generally not look into the various deals that people are considering to make. As a result it does not know if something is a scam or not. A similar thing can be said about unregistered securities as the forum does not verify that something that could be considered to be a security is properly registered.

The only real way that CL can *know* that a specific person is using CL to find victims to kill is if the killer is actually convicted (and would most likely in be jail), otherwise it would just be speculation
11038  Economy / Lending / Re: Magic Loans & Escrow on: April 19, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
I have negotiated a loan agreement with Magic8Ball here are the terms:

Loan Amount: 2.0 BTC

Collateral: BitcoinBarrel Bitcointalk.org account

Repayment Terms:

2.25 BTC back by 5/5/2015 11 PM BST

Starting on 5/6/2015:
0.01 BTC interest per day until 5/30/2015.

2.40 BTC if paid by 5/30/2015 11 PM BST

If loan is not repaid by 5/30/2015 11 PM BST collateral is forfeited to Magic8Ball

Payment Address:
149H2rXc4YS31i9SRM1p4cXLycDn6iSwHe

Signed:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
BitcoinBarrel/BitcoinTalk - 2BTC loan from Magic8Ball 11:55 AM on 4/19/2015
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Address: 149H2rXc4YS31i9SRM1p4cXLycDn6iSwHe

IG85YzPfdVAv3iWy6pjA5uSgMprbOKylMH8PIIo5BwWHWHom1HvJp15xGNTc+N2z4uXewvtd3o4Ockx0kX5w15g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
This is a very large loan amount. I am not sure that Magic8Ball is going to be able to sell a hero account for 2+ BTC if/when you default on this loan.
11039  Economy / Goods / Re: Special Bitcoin-only 5-Day Anniversary Sale >> SOLD OUT !! on: April 19, 2015, 04:40:38 PM
Soooo, you are a newbie with a extremely bad reason to not use escrow and a worthless guarantee if you end up scamming. Good luck with your sales. Roll Eyes

Hi Mitchell,

soooo, you're a stuff member with an extremely bad way to welcome a newbie. We have the best reputations on Google+ and LinkedIn. The way we do business will not change because of your amusing comments. A reputation on your forum isn't a must to do business.

Have an awesome day!

Best regards,

David


This is not a hotel. It is not the staffs' job to make you feel welcome, and in a lot of cases people will not be welcome (e.g. if they break the rules).

It is fairly clear that you are a scammer as you are refusing to use escrow which is designed to protect both the buyer and the seller from getting scammed.

If you are worried that the buyer is going to claim the non-receipt of the product then you should insure the package you send to the buyer in the amount of the value of the product so the buyer can file a claim with the shipping company when they claim that the goods are lost/stolen/damaged/ect.
11040  Other / Archival / Re: 2 BTC loan for 2.25 BTC back in 30 days or less + free advertising on: April 19, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
Can send proof of revenue if needed.
Proof of revenue is not going to protect the lender. TBH if you have the revenue that you claim to have you will most likely be better off getting a loan from the bank. You will probably get much better terms anyway, and they have additional resources available to them to protect themselves from deadbeats.

I have collateral, and I'm negotiating terms with a lender now. But if you use collateral you don't get free advertising...  Cry
Most people on here do not need any kind of advertising so the "free advertising" will have little value to them.

If you do in fact collateral (your posts suggest that you do not) then I would also be able to give this loan (along with the several others that have offered)
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