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11081  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 22, 2016, 07:48:09 AM
Personally I will go for bitcoin, why? Even gold has been around for centuries and it's price has increased significantly over the years, well actually over the centuries, but in near future it will not be able to compete with bitcoin for sure.
gold price is already too high. agree. gold will not rise significantly. perhaps only 1-2 percent per year. may also be dropped

What you have quoted is exactly taking place. When we consider the growth of bitcoin is high.
Now in these days of increased price no other looking, just get fixed to bitcoin.
11082  Other / Off-topic / Re: Getting My First Whole Bitcoin? on: February 22, 2016, 07:44:22 AM
Getting a bitcoin as a whole without investment is a big deal. Start with faucets, need to spend long time as well try to get into a signature campaign and earn. Gamble or do betting with the earned bitcoin through faucets as well campaign. If lucky you will get a whole bitcoin within a day, else need to start from the beginning.
11083  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do I find bitcoin accepted ebay sellers? on: February 22, 2016, 07:36:35 AM
Just google abit, or pm seeler and ask him, does he accepts bitcoins as payment
it's the best way. send a message to the merchant,
This will be easier if ebay accept bitcoin payments, unfortunately

Yes its true, the best way is to just ask the seller if he/she accept the bitcoin as a payment method for their items.
Most will not but there are some that are already accepting the bitcoin for their customers.

Suggestions are good, but there are only few traders with limited products were accepting bitcoins.
I came to know, one among the product which can be bought by bitcoin is books.
11084  Other / Off-topic / Re: Way to get bitcoin..!! on: February 22, 2016, 07:30:39 AM
well, my favorite method of getting bitcoin is to participate in signature campaign. But I also like many more ways.. and I always try to do something new and unique. With this I've lost my money many times but experience is priceless..
Come on, tell apart this way mate. This was too mainstream and all the members already know this way
You are right man. Almost every member of this forum know very well about signature campaign. Even newbies also know it. I think if some one join this forum he knows about signature campaign before joining and he specially join this forum for doing signature campaign. lol..

Here on my country, especially on local FB groups, when they heard bitcointalk, signature campaign is the first thing that will popped out on their minds, too bad they are lazy to do it and just prefer faucets Grin
Yes, faucets are easy to use, but with faucets we can not make this much money, but with signature compaing we can easily make up to 0.04 BTC every week. I think 200% better than faucets.

Thats fair and faucets also requires long time to earn money. Bitcoin earning can be done with ease through the betting. You need to be lucky or should feel no matter whatever occurs.
11085  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: February 22, 2016, 07:21:10 AM
You should have believed since 2014 (at least).

But it's never too late, surely you'll LOVE IT.

Lot of people had been reluctant, but when the results come, no one will fool/trick yourself.
bitcoin has lived from 2009 and still exist today. users continue to grow, we must believe

In a short term if a currency has grown this much, Sure you need to believe. If you believe there are alternative
currencies in use then you should believe that bitcoin is the best
11086  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: February 22, 2016, 07:09:09 AM
Everything needs to be part, so we need to save a part as well need to invest the part of their saving. Because
saving will earn you with low interest but investment earns you high profit but requires longterm
11087  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will be stable in 2020 on: February 22, 2016, 07:02:15 AM
Even bitcoin is stable now. The fluctuating nature seems to be the nature of the bitcoin.
In 2020 also the nature won't change so surely it will be stable.
11088  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin, dogecoin, and litecoin the same ?? on: February 22, 2016, 06:55:41 AM
Bitcoin is the leader. Litecoin, dogecoin are the photostats of bitcoin with varying technology.
Dogecoin & litecoin sre the alternate coins. Among this bitcoin is the most secure.
11089  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Storing of Bitcoins is against Bitcoin. on: February 22, 2016, 06:38:18 AM
Storing of bitcoin doesn't mean its been dumped. When large volume of bitcoin gets accumulated in a few peoples it will cause a much varying price variation. This shows storing of bitcoin is not against bitcoin.
11090  Economy / Speculation / Re: How long is Bitcoin life? on: February 22, 2016, 06:32:14 AM
Bitcoin won't go off in a short or within a specified term. Bitcoin has got these many trusted users within seven years of existence even after various crypts exists and got faded away
11091  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: storage in btc or fiat? on: February 20, 2016, 11:33:24 PM
Storing as bitcoin is the best option than going for fiat. The volatile or fluctuating nature also earn you some price, but the fiat won't earn any profit as well its very risky to hold for long.
11092  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS AND TERRORISTS ARE NOT MUSLIMS on: February 20, 2016, 11:30:33 PM
No, the Inquisition did not approach the atrocities of ISIS.

It's estimated that from 1540-1700  ( a period of time we have good records for ) the Spanish Inquisition killed between 3000 and 5000 people.

So 160 years of the worst of Christianity matches two months or so of violent Muslim killings.

Inquisition was not the worst atrocity perpetrated by Christianity. The genocide of the native Americans by the Catholic church was the worst atrocity perpetrated by anyone in the human history. Consider these:

1. The native population of Mexico reduced to 25 million to 1 million in less than 100 years.
2. The Taino/Carib population of the West Indies (8 million) completely exterminated in 60 years.
3. The native Brazilian population reduced from 15 million to 1 million in 100 years.

To be fair here, not all of this extermination was a direct result of Christianity, a lot of it was plain old greed and conquest independent of religion.

Well, truth be told, most of religion is about greed and conquest.

Most religion is about greed and conquest, but basically one who doesn't believe in any of the religion are the most greedier as well independent of religion.
11093  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We are in Bitcoin Heaven on: February 20, 2016, 11:22:11 PM
We've always been in BTC heaven, so uh...that's pretty decent. I must say that I have been trying to get back to the main reason why some people are afraid of BTC. Some people say the reputation. Others say because it doesn't look like real money. I for one think it's deeper than that

Yeah always we won't be in the heaven. When there is a decrease in price most get into the hell thinking its gonna fail, but trusted users still be in bitcoin heaven. The volatile nature is the reason for such cause.
11094  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading For Minors? on: February 20, 2016, 11:18:31 PM
Some has suggested to do anonymous trading. I believe doing trade in such a manner will not be successive, because if he won't reveal his identity he can't earn trust which will affect his trading.
11095  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: February 20, 2016, 11:11:35 PM
Bitcoin has got various dark market places. These are virtual markets in which illegal activities take place.
For such activities hiring also takes place through bitcointalk forum. Such requirements can be viewed
in the services sections posting. One can join by applying through it.
11096  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to join signature ad campaigns .. on: February 20, 2016, 11:03:43 PM
Hello..
Can some one please tell me how can I join bitcoin talk signature ad comaigns to earn bitcoins..?

Be patient until you get a little higher level and then go to marketplace>services and you can finds loads of offers there and find that one that suites you.

No waiting is needed, when you reach jr. member rank you can join a campaign right away, ofcourse it is better to have a higher rank but it isn't bad with jr. member as well. I'm a jr. member and i've joined yobit sig campaign and so far it's going well for me.

Thats a good positive vibe. Now only you have got such opportunities, you can use it when you get the junior member rank. Even it will help you give good quality posts when you become full member or senior member.
11097  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: February 20, 2016, 10:51:33 PM
Each has various plans with the bitcoin they own. So always it matters about the bitcoin price.
It matter till it is converted and used in some other form of local currency such as dollars.
11098  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin value is 440+ on: February 20, 2016, 10:40:08 PM
This is the beauty of bitcoin. Whoever trusted got profited. when the price got decreasing everyone left after selling what they have earned. The one who believed of price rise just been holding, they get the 10-15$ growth profit.
11099  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best and quickest way to exchange bitcoins for fiat on: February 20, 2016, 10:23:55 PM
Localbitcoins is of course another obvious way but be extra careful with traders, check if they have more than 1000 transactions and more than 6 months trading and you should be good. The rates won't be the best though since they are the best ones for a reason. Avoid Paypal (although it's very tempting) and choose Western Union and you'll be ok.

Your suggestion is good. Localbitcoin also got local traders with whom it is possible to make personal conversation. If the trader is trusty and located in a short distance you can make it fast as well as risk free. Getting such trader is possible only through localbitcoins.
11100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stop with these topics on: February 20, 2016, 10:12:17 PM
My theory is the Christians....

The Christians spent centuries trying to destroy any knowledge of their origins... They burned thousands of books where they stole their stories and rituals...

I imagine that Christians are the ones behind trying to exterminate the Jews throughout history, Nazi's included...

Christians are clearly ashamed of having stolen all their texts and traditions from other sources, and they have successfully destroyed 99% of all evidence, except for those pesky Jews... They keep trying to exterminate the Jews, but fail every time

This is completely irrelevant as well posted to offend christians without proper proof.
Can you suggest a book that's been burned so to take rule over the jews or the
other religious people
. Just post christians don't get into this discussion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_burning#Christian_burnings

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After the First Council of Nicea (CE 325), Roman emperor Constantine the Great issued an edict against nontrinitarian Arians which included systematical book burning; "In addition, if any writing composed by Arius should be found, it should be handed over to the flames, so that not only will the wickedness of his teaching be obliterated, but nothing will be left even to remind anyone of him. And I hereby make a public order, that if someone should be discovered to have hidden a writing composed by Arius, and not to have immediately brought it forward and destroyed it by fire, his penalty shall be death. As soon as he is discovered in this offense, he shall be submitted for capital punishment....." According to Elaine Pagels, "In AD 367, Athanasius, the zealous bishop of Alexandria... issued an Easter letter in which he demanded that Egyptian monks destroy all such unacceptable writings, except for those he specifically listed as 'acceptable' even 'canonical' — a list that constitutes the present 'New Testament'". Pagels cites Athanasius's Paschal letter (letter 39) for 367 AD, which prescribes a canon but does not explicitly order monks to destroy excluded works. Heretical texts do not turn up as palimpsests, washed clean and overwritten, as do many texts of Classical antiquity. According to author Rebecca Knuth, multitudes of early Christian texts have been as thoroughly "destroyed" as if they had been publicly burnt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_book-burning_incidents

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1 Antiquity

    1.1 Destruction of Ebla
    1.2 Destruction of Mari
    1.3 Destruction of Alalakh
    1.4 Destruction of Ugarit
    1.5 Library of Ashurbanipal (by Babylonians, Scythians and Medes)
    1.6 A scroll written by the Hebrew prophet Jeremiah (burnt by King Jehoiakim)
    1.7 Protagoras's "On the Gods" (by Athenian authorities)
    1.8 Zoroastrian scriptures and Persian Royal Archives (by Alexander the Great)
    1.9 Chinese philosophy books (by Emperor Qin Shi Huang and anti-Qin rebels)
    1.10 Books of Pretended Prophecies (by Roman authorities)
    1.11 Jewish holy books (by the Seleucid monarch Antiochus IV)
    1.12 Aeneid (unsuccessfully ordered by Virgil)
    1.13 Roman history book (by the aediles)
    1.14 Greek and Latin prophetic verse (by the Emperor Augustus)
    1.15 Torah scroll (by Roman soldier)
    1.16 Sorcery scrolls (by early converts to Christianity at Ephesus)
    1.17 Rabbi Haninah ben Teradion burned with a Torah scroll (under Hadrian)
    1.18 Burning of the Torah by Apostomus (precise time and circumstances debated)
    1.19 Epicurus's book (in Paphlagonia)
    1.20 Manichaean and Christian scriptures (by Diocletian)
    1.21 Books of Arianism (after Council of Nicaea)
    1.22 Library of Antioch (by Jovian)
    1.23 "Unacceptable writings" (by Athanasius)
    1.24 The Sibylline books (various times)
    1.25 Writings of Priscillian
    1.26 Etrusca Disciplina
    1.27 Nestorius' books (by Theodosius II)

2 Middle Ages

    2.1 Patriarch Eutychius' book (by Emperor Tiberius II Constantine)
    2.2 Archives of Ctesiphon (during Arab conquest)
    2.3 Japanese books and manuscripts (during power struggle at the Imperial court)
    2.4 Repeated destruction of Alexandria libraries
    2.5 Qur'anic texts with varying wording (ordered by the 3rd Caliph, Uthman)
    2.6 Competing prayer books (at Toledo)
    2.7 Abelard forced to burn his own book (at Soissons)
    2.8 The writings of Arnold of Brescia (at France and Rome)
    2.9 Nalanda University
    2.10 Samanid Dynasty Library
    2.11 Buddhist writings in the Maldives
    2.12 Destruction of Cathar texts (Languedoc region of France)
    2.13 Maimonides' philosophy (at Montpellier)
    2.14 The Talmud (at Paris), first of many such burnings over the next centuries
    2.15 Rabbi Nachmanides' account of the Disputation of Barcelona (by Dominicans)
    2.16 The House of Wisdom library (at Baghdad)
    2.17 Lollard books and writings (By English Law)
    2.18 Wycliffe's books (at Prague)
    2.19 Villena's books (in Castile)
    2.20 Codices of the peoples conquered by the Aztecs (by Itzcoatl)
    2.21 Gemistus Pletho's Nómoi (by Partiarch Gennadius II)

3 Early Modern Period (from 1492 to 1650)

    3.1 Library and archives of the Novgorod Republic (by Ivan III and Ivan IV)
    3.2 Decameron, Ovid and other "lewd" books (by Savonarola)
    3.3 Arabic and Hebrew books (in Andalucía)
    3.4 Catholic theological works (by Martin Luther)
    3.5 Tyndale's New Testament (in England)
    3.6 English Monastic Libraries (during the Dissolution of the Monasteries)
    3.7 Servetus's writings (burned with their author at Geneva, and also burned at Vienne)
    3.8 The Historie of Italie (In England)
    3.9 Maya codices (by Spanish Bishop of Yucatan)
    3.10 "Obscene" Maltese poetry (by the Inquisition)
    3.11 Arwi books (by Portuguese in India and Ceylon)
    3.12 Bernardino de Sahagún's manuscripts on Aztec culture (by Spanish authorities)
    3.13 Books from the Bibliotheca Palatina (by Catholic troops)
    3.14 Luther's Bible translation (by German Catholics)
    3.15 Uriel da Costa's book (By Jewish community and city authorities in Amsterdam)
    3.16 Marco Antonio de Dominis' writings (in Rome)

4 Early Modern Period (from 1650 until the turn of the 19th century)

    4.1 Books burned by civil, military and ecclesiastical authorities between 1640 and 1660 (in Cromwell's England)
    4.2 Earl of Worcester's library (by New Model Army)
    4.3 Book criticising Puritanism (in Boston)
    4.4 Manuscripts of John Amos Comenius (by anti-Swedish Polish partisans)
    4.5 Quaker books (in Boston)
    4.6 Great Fire (London)
    4.7 Hobbes books (at Oxford University)
    4.8 Swedish National Archives
    4.9 Mythical (and/or mystical) writings of Moshe Chaim Luzzatto (by rabbis)
    4.10 Protestant books and Bibles (by Archbishop of Salzburg)
    4.11 Amalasunta (by Carlo Goldoni)
    4.12 The writings of Johann Christian Edelmann (by Imperial authorities in Frankfurt)
    4.13 Books that offended Qianlong Emperor
    4.14 Anti-Wilhelm Tell tract (at Canton of Uri)
    4.15 Books of Voltaire (by French authorities)
    4.16 Vernacular Catholic hymn books (at Mainz)
    4.17 Cluny Abbey's library
    4.18 Egyptian archaeological finds (threatened burning by French scholars)

5 Industrial Revolution period

    5.1 "The Burned Book" (by Rabbi Nachman of Breslov)
    5.2 Musin-Pushkin's library (In Great Moscow Fire)
    5.3 Records of the Goa Inquisition (by Portuguese colonial authorities)
    5.4 Original Library of Congress Collection (by British troops)
    5.5 The Code Napoléon (by German Nationalist students)
    5.6 Early braille books (in Paris)
    5.7 Library of St. Augustine Academy, Philadelphia (by anti-Irish rioters)
    5.8 Chinese literary works (By Anglo-French troops in Beijing)
    5.9 "The Bonnie Blue Flag" (by Union General Benjamin Butler)
    5.10 Edmond Potonie's papers (by French Police)
    5.11 Library of Strasbourg (in German bombardment)
    5.12 Library of the Louvre (during suppression of the Paris Commune)
    5.13 "Lewd" books (by Anthony Comstock and the NYSSV)
    5.14 Pedigrees and books of Muslim law and theology (By the Mahdi in Sudan)
    5.15 Emily Dickinson's correspondence (on her orders)
    5.16 Ivan Bloch's research on Russian Jews (by Tsarist Russian government)
    5.17 Italian Nationalist literature (by Austrian authorities in Trieste)

6 WWI and interbellum era

    6.1 Leuven University Library (by World War I German Army)
    6.2 Many books (by Communists in Russia)
    6.3 Valley of the Squinting Windows (at Delvin, Ireland)
    6.4 George Grosz's cartoons (By court order in Weimar Germany)
    6.5 Irish National Archives (in Civil War)
    6.6 Plunkett family records (in Civil War)
    6.7 Jewish, anti-Nazi and "degenerate" books (by the Nazis)
    6.8 Theodore Dreiser's works (at Warsaw, Indiana)
    6.9 Works of Goethe, Shaw, and Freud (by Metaxas dictatorship in Greece)
    6.10 Pompeu Fabra's library (by Franco's troops)

7 World War II

    7.1 Leuven University Library (by World War II German occupation troops)
    7.2 Chinese libraries (by World War II Japanese troops)
    7.3 Works in the British Museum (by German bomber planes)
    7.4 Jean Genet's Our Lady of the Flowers (by French prison guard)
    7.5 Jewish books in Allesandria (by pro-Nazi mob)
    7.6 André Malraux's manuscript (by the Gestapo)
    7.7 Various libraries in Warsaw, Poland (during World War II)
    7.8 Books in the National Library of Serbia (by World War II German bomber planes)
    7.9 Douai Municipal Library
    7.10 Books in German libraries (by World War II Allied bomber planes)

8 Cold War era and 1990s

    8.1 The books of Knut Hamsun (in post-WWII Norway)
    8.2 Post-WWII Germany
    8.3 Books in Kurdish (in north Iran)
    8.4 Comic book burnings, 1948
    8.5 Books by Shen Congwen (by Chinese booksellers)
    8.6 Judaica collection at Birobidzhan (by Stalin)
    8.7 Communist and "fellow traveller" books (by Senator McCarthy)
    8.8 Wilhelm Reich's publications (by U.S. Food and Drug Administration)
    8.9 Brazil, military coup, 1964
    8.10 Religious, Anti-Communist and Genealogy books (in the Cultural Revolution)
    8.11 Beatles Burnings – Southern USA, 1966
    8.12 Leftist books in Chile after the 1973 coup d'état
    8.13 Burning of Jaffna library
    8.14 The Satanic Verses (worldwide)
    8.15 Book burnings in Croatia
    8.16 National and University Library of Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992)
    8.17 Abkhazian Research Institute of History, Language and Literature & National Library of Abkhazia (by Georgian troops)
    8.18 The Nasir-i Khusraw Foundation in Kabul (by the Taliban regime)

9 21st Century

    9.1 Berkeley book burning
    9.2 Abu Nuwas poetry (by Egyptian Ministry of Culture)
    9.3 Independent Librarians (in Cuba)
    9.4 Iraq's national library, Baghdad 2003
    9.5 Harry Potter books (in various American cities)
    9.6 Inventory of Prospero's Books (by proprietors Tom Wayne and W.E. Leathem)
    9.7 New Testaments in city of Or Yehuda, Israel
    9.8 Non-approved Bibles, books and music in Canton, North Carolina
    9.9 Bagram Bibles
    9.10 2010–11 Florida Qur'an burning and related burnings
    9.11 Operation Dark Heart, memoir by Anthony Shaffer (by the U. S. Dept. of Defense)
    9.12 The burning of the library in the Institut d'Egypte in Cairo
    9.13 Suspected Colorado City incident
    9.14 Qur'ans in Afghanistan
    9.15 Climate change book at San Jose State University
    9.16 Manuscripts in Timbuktu
    9.17 National Archives of Bosnia and Herzegovina (2014)

So from this you indicate that all histories were hidden, due to the burning of those books in the past.
For every cause done by jews christians were the responsible one right.
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