in HYIP i don't have any doubt about scam, but i know eligius is not HYIP, so 50/50...
I smell a bet! I propose we each put in 1 BTC. If you win (Eligius never comes back up and this is a scam), you get my 1 BTC. If I win (Eligius comes back up and continues normal operation), I donate your 1 BTC to the pool. If you accept, we'll both send 1 BTC to escrow. Would it be unfair if I also wanted to wager for Eligius coming back? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) lol, Reyhs, who's sock puppet are you anyway? Anyway, forum trolls aside, update on progress: Data is importing into the new database server. Its working well so far, pretty speedy. Still a lot of data to move and organize. As soon as the shares database has enough data to move forward I'm going to fire up CPPSRB to start some accounting on the data, since that will take a few hours at best and I should be able to finish the imports before it completes or gets close to the end of the data. -wk At now i see only two lost days and unknown time to start, day, week, month ? But somebody may still mining here, not me... Than if you so good as talk here - stop the pool and return when all is work because work on pool without statistics and payouts not right. Because it's keeping track of everything just fine, and it would be a pain in my ass for him to shut the pool down, not to mention costly having to run on pools with fees. Are you going to take the 1BTC bet or are you just a troll?
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I go to BTC from some HYIP project where i lost 33000$ last year. It's not trolling, just my opinion - eligius have 300 BTC on credit before database collision, now after 30+ blocks more than 1 000 000 dollars on credit... IMHO, it's scam already, you just give him more and more and more !
now this is interesting. I would like to hear more about it from others too. can this be true? I too, would like to create a new troll account and ask these serious questions, as skilled as losing $33,000 as I am.
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Yeah, no more controller cards because Sam sold them all to his brother. This explains their shifty behavior. It didn't make sense that they were willing to let their customers go to their competitors but now it does. They are moving into cloud-hashing with Sam's brother and just like CEX.io. I think O'rama mentioned something about submersion cooling in his interview at CES that now makes more sense. My prediction is Neptune will be their last consumer device and they are only offering it to pay for the development cost of 20nm. Once they have the masks, they will no longer sell to consumers and likely only sell to Byteminer. Orama did mention that it's all coming down to low cost power and he mentioned Iceland, which is where Cloud Hashing are based. My guess is knc, byteminer and cloud hashing are partnering up. You heard it here first! This is a very good clue my guess is correct: https://www.facebook.com/cloudhashing/posts/401192233348915So it's probably going to be knc, not hashfast or cointerra, that make our jupiters worthless in a week or two. Oh the irony! Wow, how are they significantly increasing their hash rate at the end of January? HashLast has stated Jan 28th for their revised^10 timeline, or did they manage to get the remaining controller boards? I've got several of the antminers, they're actually quite nice. I'm running 2 per 860W Seasonic (That I bought for Nov jupiters) Running strong and running quiet
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More updates. It turns out I'm fighting a losing battle with the existing database server. Putting the shares logged in failsafe mode plus real-time shares being accepted into the database isn't leaving enough resource overhead for it to actually catch up to real-time in a reasonable time. I finally decided to stop the existing process so I could time it more closely and if I continue it will take several days before it actually caught up to real-time again. So, in light of this, I'm taking this in a different direction. I've been in contact with the data center to have the main database server resources more than doubled, as well as larger SSDs, a faster CPU, more RAM, etc. They estimate that this will be done within the next 90 minutes. Afterwards I need to configure everything properly, and then go back to catching up the database. Hopefully this makes it take a much more reasonable amount of time afterwards. Again, no shares are lost. They're all logged on their respective servers (and duplicated across others for backups) right now. Once all is done, everyone will be paid accordingly, stats will catch up, and it will be like none of this ever happened! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Thank you for your patience. Note, if anyone has the time to help users on the #eligius IRC channel on freenode with the many questions that have been coming in from people who for one reason or another are not seeing my updates, please jump on and help out if you can. Thanks. -wk Step up the donations people!
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Let's keep this thread at the top so other Projects victims can find it
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If there is any way we can pay a reasonable premium to have the Neptunes shipped as two separate 1.5TH units that work on a standard American household circuit (instead of needing to use two circuits total for a single 3TH unit), I would be very interested in placing an additional order for 3TH.
ditto that would be the way to move them 2nd batch Neptunes! Searing i said this a month ago and everyone laughed. ugh. Id imagine two PSUs could be used
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Dear KnC
"We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network."
If you are serious about this statement
There's only really one way of doing this. Sell (previous customers only) more mining equipment now and deliver by mid February.
Even if I was to get a refund on a Neptune , with the extra mined btc , I will buy more miners from you, Neptune's or Pluto's or what ever the next miner you sell.
All serious miners realise they need to get more hashing power right now .
You will make more monies in the long run and so will we.
Thanks for listening
Pete
They're selling the shit out of the Avalon 2 units, 200GH for $2250 is not bad at all, considering you can get it shipped right away. Forget Hashlast and cointerra, let's allow us to get some Jupiters
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my god your saying this scumbag stole close to 400k dollars?
BTC was over $1200 when I sent it to him
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I set up an LLC and am running my mining business under it. I was able to get business insurance that not only covers all my mining hardware, but covers the lost revenue until the machines are replaced. Pretty nice to have.
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www.kncminer.com and their forum down now or I got problem with their connections? Anyone please confirm! It's up but it appears slower than usual. That's because they just made some changes to the site.............. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fikeepsit100.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2Fready1.jpg&t=663&c=rXmI7FLQLjBn-A) Reminds me of these days! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cultofmac.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F04%2Fapple-store-down.jpg&t=663&c=deq9YfcmNhAJTA)
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In other news: It appears my refund request by certified mail has bounced. "undeliverable"
Can this thread now officially be renamed as SCAMThat wasn't either of the two addresses I had for them. The two I had were: HashFast Technologies LLC 97 Second Street #175 San Jose, CA 95113 United States and HashFast Technologies LLC (“HashFast”) 100 Bush Street, Suite 650 San Francisco, California 94104, United States Oh thanks for that. I thought they moved out of their San Jose office, as well as their temp Nextspace office so I figured the San Francisco one I got at http://www.bizapedia.com/ca/HASHFAST-TECHNOLOGIES-LLC.html was correct. It would really help if HashFast would put their current address on their website. I will try 100 Bush Street and report back. Send to both, CC never hurt no one ;-) http://youtu.be/1dc1eKHgy_o
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Would be great to get an update from the few folks with engineering samples (LukeJr & IceDrill) as to how the hardware performs.
I helped icedrill get his up and running and fixed a few obvious cgminer bugs that only showed up with real hardware especially when it misbehaved (the changes went into git master). He had a 3 module unit. One module was completely dead and had to be disconnected or it wouldn't fire up. One module would overheat and trip the code that disables it almost immediately unless it was run at 20% speed. The final module ran stable at ~420GH. There's only so much debugging I can do remotely on the code without the hardware myself, but there are still bugs in the code preventing it running stable for more than a few hours at a time, but that does appear to be software related. The one working module appears to work quite well at that speed. I know there were a couple of board revisions and I suspect there may have been one more (revision) in the works but not really sure which boards went to icedrill. I doubt very much these early engineering samples hand assembled are a sign of what the final product will be like, but perhaps that last module is a better indicator. I don't know anything about his power consumption. eh, you are no KNC.....
![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) That's true... HashFast's chips are about 3 times more powerful when compared on a GH per sq.mm basis. HashFast is shipping with top-shelf quality Sea Sonic PSUs, so our customers won't have to put up with exploding/self-immolating units like KNC's did. In addition, HashFast lined up an exclusive with CIARA, which means HashFast machines will be assembled and shipped with utmost expediency (no random guys helping load some random van), in professional/durable packaging. That means double-walled boxes, so HashFast customers' hardware won't arrive broken like so much of KNC's did. Finally, (again unlike KNC) HashFast has been working closely with ckolivas for a long time to ensure cgminer works flawlessly with our innovative new GN Protocol, Global Work Queue, etc.
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Date Nov 30th Amount 25BTC
TX ID a5013ed712bbadc1885778e61610705784b316d267cf8157ebaf7706450add5d
recipient: 1HtnBMkVCPvJo2fHBRMUz8UtEgiFk2KksH
Then his refund:
Amount 10BCT tx: f1172d8c79d62134db16c57c561d6abd63138314bf3a23842986ef275abc092d
Amount 5BTC tx: 2c7d6dc35dc35e270ef51eb7bfd59d3e3d00b2e2645a099515c1eb06128f044f
Either he got himself into trouble and needed the money, thus trying to make us "okay" with his scam being glad we could recover some of what we lost due to "shipping" problems, or else he was simply trying to delay getting a torrent of negative trust ratings so he could continue to scam more and more.
His original offer to me was 1BTC per week for 25 weeks.
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Hi all. * Anybody not in Batch 1, don't read this. * Anybody in Batch 1 who believes that HashFast is going to do the right thing voluntary, without a gentle nudge from us, don't read this. * Anybody in Batch 1 who believes that the right way to deal with HashFast is to open more communication channels with them, don't read this. For the rest of you: I have found a lawyer who is willing to take our case, and help us get our BTC back, if we can cooperate.) The name is Ray E. Gallo. Please make up your minds about him; I think he is great. (85% winning percentage, and specialized in class and mass actions alleging large scale fraud.) Some data: http://gallo-law.com/attorneys/gallo.htmlhttp://www.avvo.com/attorneys/94901-ca-ray-gallo-291467.htmlhttp://www.avvo.com/attorneys/94901-ca-ray-gallo-291467/reviews.html <= reviews http://www.linkedin.com/in/raygallo(Now I let you experienced Google detectives jump on him.) * * * After exchanging around 100 mails with me, and analyzing all the documents and evidence with his team, he thinks we can probably win this case for Batch 1 customers who have paid in BTC. (But of course there is no guarantee.) As you all know, class action is forbidden by the (ever-changing) Terms of Service, but (by the nature of thing) "mass action" is not, and can not be. So we can proceed in a “mass” basis: the same attorney working with multiple clients simultaneously. This is like a class case in that it will give us some leverage by aggregating claims so that we can do more work on the matter. It’s different in that they can make us try (arbitrate) every case. (Which means that individual cases might end with success or failure independently of each other, but we can optionally pool the results, if we want to reach a fair distribution at the end.) * * * Since the legal costs are (usually) pretty high, this might well be the only way to go for small customers like me, who have only bought 1 or 2 units. (It would not make any economic sense to hire a such a strong lawyer on my own, but together, we might be able to make it.) Ray Gallo is ready to take the case on a contingent basis, so we don't have to pay up-front; his fee comes down from the money recovered from HashFast, if we win. The key to make this work is to collect enough participants. He said that he is willing to take the case if there are at least around 30 Baby Jet worth of customers.
Now the question is, how many of you would you willing to participate in such an arrangement? I have 1 BJ. DISCLAIMER: I know others are also talking to other lawyers, too. I'm not saying that everybody should stop what they are doing and stop proceeding along those lines; I am just saying that this looks like a very good opportunity to me. Anybody who is interested, please contact him directly via his own page, which I have linked above. The deadline is this Friday. We have to collect enough customers by then.
Best wishes: fenwick What kind of fees would be charged on the refund amount (should it happen) if the 30 BabyJet number is reached? Zero, the lawyer would be working on contingency. If we win, lawyer gets a percentage and we get the remainder. If we lose, we owe nothing. Win, or collect? Want to make sure the details on that.
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This is an open letter I sent to Projects, and yes, I get religious: Shame on you man, shame on you. You've really hurt a lot of people, really bad. This isn't some online game, this is real life, and you've really really hurt a lot of people. I honestly don't know how you can can go about each day, using things you've bought with money you've stolen from people. Every time you look at your nice car, your watch, your phone, laptop tablet and your home, you know you've buried other people's dreams inside and underneath them. It's not too late man, you can still make the right choice, you can pay these people back, starting with the people you took the most from. If you want your conscience to be free from the guilt and shame you've bestowed upon yourself.... And... your family (for any of your children, you loved ones, anyone who ever touches anything you've bought with your stolen good) is permanently stained. I will make this deal with you. Do everything you can to pay everyone back, and I will give you the 10BTC you stole from me. Pay everyone back, and the 10BTC you stole form me is no longer stolen, it's a gift. Are you man enough to do this? To do what is right? To repent we need to recognize and feel sorry for what we’ve done wrong, do whatever is possible to repair the damage it may have caused, and to leave our sinful behavior behind. Repentance can be difficult and requires a lot of honesty, but the joy and freedom we feel when we turn away from our sins are well worth the effort. Because Christ suffered for our sins, we can be forgiven when we repent. That’s why the Atonement is so important to all of us. http://mormon.org/beliefs/jesus-christYou've taken a lot more from others, that's why I'm willing to put up my 10BTC to help you come clean. Do what's right Projects. If anyone else would be willing to up part of your loss to give Projects the chance to change the direction he's taken his life, post it here. Stealing half a million is incredibly serious, this isn't a stolen snickers from the petrol station.
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Also beware of BTC-e if you are American. Although they advertise 24 hour USD Deposits... It does not exist! I have about 20+ emails to & from support on it, and they always act stupid, like they don't understand what I'm saying. They don't even accept US Bank International transfer!.
if you don't understand how btc-e works, don't use it... they don't hold your hand. Any begging will also put you at the end of the line. Not your kind of place +1
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His MO in dealing with me calling him out was exactly like in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266672.0In which he apologized for the problem, and was doing everything he could to right the situation. What makes a good member go bad? I mean, this is really really bad.
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Yeah, Not sure what happened here. He claimed to have KNCMiner Jupiters for sale. I Send him 25BTC, he gave me a tracking number for a packed shipped from UK to a different state, Funny thing is he RETURNED 15BTC to try and get me to not leave him a bad trust rating! Weirdest scammer ever!
Total Amount scammed out of: 10BTC
I would like that deal. David, could you send me 60% back too? Better than zero .. Damned right. I'll take whatever right now. Then sue him for the rest. Id offer not to sue. And I keep my word. If only - it's worth a try - you never know. If anyone wants or needs PMs or other info, feel free to ask. If you want anything posted here i'm game also. Here's the tracking he gave me for the Jupiters Tracking RJ315893682GB He is sure good at stretching out his scamming that's for sure. Played hard on his 100% positive trust.
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Yeah, Not sure what happened here. He claimed to have KNCMiner Jupiters for sale. I Send him 25BTC, he gave me a tracking number for a packed shipped from UK to a different state, Funny thing is he RETURNED 15BTC to try and get me to not leave him a bad trust rating! Weirdest scammer ever!
Total Amount scammed out of: 10BTC
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