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1121  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tanya Jawab Seputar Forum Disini/Ask about this forum here! on: July 28, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
tanya ah, sekarang kan aturannya sudah berbeda dan signature altcoin banyak tulisan prefferable in alternate cryptocurrencies section/semua thread altcoin dipersilahkan kecuali bounty campaign :
 
+ nah thread ann projek lain dihitung posting atau dilarang nih
Ane coba jawab yang ini. Sekarang seperti yang agan ketahui kalau tidak ada lagi kewajiban untuk post di ANN thread saat kita bergabung di suatu campaign. Nah jadi postingan di ANN manapun tetap dihitung tetapi itu kalau agan memang mau bertanya tentang campaign itu yang seharusnya memang ditanyakan di ANN thread bukannya "oh this project is good. I'm sure this project will success" atau "is there any social bounty?" atau lebih buruknya lagi(masih dilakukan beberapa orang sampai sekarang) "reserved indonesian translation if needed"
Jika agan ada baca-baca dithread luar, hilarious mengusulkan semua campaign, baik itu btc dan altcoin harus mengikuti aturan ini juga. Kalau di thread lokal ane rasa gak ada masalah kecuali jika postnya spam.
jadi kesimpulannya rules baru yang sekarang hanya untuk mengurangi spam di ann thread (english ) bukan berarti kita boleh nyepam di luar ann thread  Grin
bener ape gx gan ?

yang ane baca cuma dilarang post di signature campaign/bounty thread lain, bagian ann projek lain termasuk dalam kategori altcoin discussion pasti boleh, cuma kalau full post di ann projek (lain) ya agak aneh jadinya. diskusi altcoin di section indonesia juga termasuk altcoin, asal enggak ada larang post local juga pasti diperbolehkan.

terima kasih, saya jarang post di ann/bounty campaign lain selama projek yang saya pakai masih aktif, penasaran saja banyak akun yang posting di banyak ann tapi sedang pegang signature yang aturannya ketat. sebaiknya kita juga banyak buat thread di altcoin indonesia biar topiknya berkembang dan ga didominasi oleh ann dan bounty.
1122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Well, well now it is clear that Bitcoin is traceable. on: July 27, 2017, 11:04:11 PM
Bitcoin has always been traceable. I don't know why it comes as such a big surprise now lol. I don't believe Bitcoin Cash will offer any better anonymity to be honest. If you want a better solution look for more specialized alt coins so to speak. There is a few of them out there already.
Well it is a good thing for bitcoin to be traceable because some people might fraudulently laundered it to perpetuate crime with it  especially terrorists.
Every transactions should be traced and monitored this will help to curb illegality of using bitcoin.

Slightly eliminates the original nature of bitcoin, but I do not mind it because it also concerns the regulatory interests of the world economy, I just regret it if it happens it will soon happen the onslaught of the tax sector, and will have an impact on our Income on any fund we get from bitcoin.
1123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits from Gambling on: July 27, 2017, 10:26:20 PM
In 2011 I've been caught in deep gambling hole, and probably destroyed my whole life, but there are many advantages as soon as I realize and start doing gambling rehabilitation, which means I become wiser and mature when I wake up and start managing all businesses from scratch including gambling, It takes about 2 years for mental recovery to gamble. Bitcoin made me realize many other things that can be done.
1124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: July 27, 2017, 10:12:42 PM
I bet on sports betting every of my favorite teams will come back to play and this happens every week, the feeling for betting is based on my love of the club. But for poker I have different reasons, I always come back when I miss the atmosphere of analyzing cards and players. All the results I've experienced, I do not always take into account the revenue from gambling because my income is not only sourced from there.
1125  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to trade on August 1 on: July 27, 2017, 10:02:42 PM
To be clear, I want to be able to exchange ETH for BTC on August 1st.

Gdax states no withdrawls or deposits, and potentially suspend trading. What about using shapeshift or polo to do exchanges? If there is a big delay is the rate at time of execution guaranteed? I am willing put a few coins in more than 1 exchange to increase my chances of success. I'm hoping for a dip in BTC and bump in ETH and then BTC settles at a higher value after a few days.

I think all bitcoin transactions will be problematic or pending on august 1st and this only applies to bitcoin only, maybe all markets also close all transactions in full on the same day. I'm just like you, waiting for right momentum because the market will move very quickly when everythings clear.
1126  Economy / Speculation / Re: WHEN will BTC rise again and WHY? on: July 27, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Ive been watching the markets sence bitcoin was 150$/BTC, i have been promoting bitcoin and the use of it for a long time, but why should BTC ever rise again? There have been a peak thru overbuying and now somebody has to pay = coin value drop.

Hard fork, soft fork doesnt matter the value wont rise above 2k$ again?
It wasnt meant to?

I have not sold my Coins but i dont believe in 4-10-100 000$ /BTC
It is really increasing little by little. I think it is not increasing bigtime because of the segwit in August 1. Most of the people hold their Bitcoin and planning to sell it after segwit. Maybe in that time, it will increase all of a sudden. We just need to observe and wiat 'til that day come and notice the change by ourselves. I hope more investors will come after the segwit because it'll be in favor for everyone.
I don’t think so that the price of bitcoin will be increasing slowly, because the users of bitcoin has not been stopped investing in bitcoin. May be after August 1st the price of bitcoin down due to segwit. Sellers of bitcoin are very rare in the market than the buyer of bitcoin. Due to massive interest of people bitcoin price will again rise soon and I hope that upto September it would gain their position back.

Bitcoin will still have loyal users when we talk about recovery, if bitcoin system is divided into two or three all will destroy the current price, I think the bitcoin we have now will still get full support from the market in August and be able to do the recovery as soon as possible, prices will also gradually increase according to the volume of purchases.
1127  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin End World Poverty? on: July 27, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
I don't think that Bitcoin is helpful for eradicating poverty. this is just a currency which can be helpful to make money but not for every people. it is a site which needs to be involvement via the internet. so how a poor person can afford it. I think those people are rich and affluent only they can be benefited by this platform.

It can help to reduce people that are in the poverty line/level. But generalizing "world" poverty, I can't possibly see it's going to happen. Problem is too broad when we talk about "world" poverty, there's a lot of places in this world that is experiencing poverty and even electricity, they don't have and we know internet is a much for bitcoin.

Minimal help reduce unemployment, many poor people who apparently have internet access even from the smartphone. Many paths if they really intend to wrestle with bitcoin. It all started with what they had at the time. They fall into the poor category because income is just enough for everyday needs and without thinking of long-term wealth.
1128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Choose altcoin for trading on: July 27, 2017, 07:25:28 PM
The amount of altcoin is overwhelming,
So I am confused to choose a good altcoin for trading, Can you please mention any coin whose price is stable, So I can include it in my trading list,
I once had a bitter experience, I bought altcoin, but in the end it did not sell And lost from the market,  For example digieuro

Yeah you're right...  This altcoin is very overwhelming and satisfying. For me, i suggesting that use ethereum is one of the good and better coin..

If you want to play it safe then choose the altcoin listed in the top 10 of coinmarketcap, many coins that force us to continue heart thrilling every day, this is perfect for speculators and day traders, depending on the style you want and it must be established from now on. All coins remain profitable only of a different kind.
1129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin really worth it? on: July 27, 2017, 07:17:26 PM
Depends. Top 50 coins have a chance if you know what they're about, maybe. The rest are just pump and dumps. I'd stick to top 20 unless you're interested in trying your hand a short term trading.
Altcoin just pump and dumps and the profit comes from these 2 factor (while the factors are active team, development, community and daily trading volume from certain coins. You can do some experiment to find best coins other than the top 50 on coinmarketcap, who knows you get something.
I agree with you about the unsteady nature of altcoins. What really annoys me is that they don’t even produce a sufficient profit after pumping. But I would like to oppose your suggestion of investing into different coins just to check their potential or your luck in crypto world. To make a good profit, best option is always bitcoins. They never disappoint the users.

There are two kinds of altcoin that we must understand, the first is altcoin which does have a business value, and the second is altcoin that deliberately propagated for temporary gain and very short. If we buy coins that have a fixed business then whatever their initial rankings will continue to increase according to the movement of the year. But also we buy altcoins that have no real evidence, we can benefit only in the first period alone, so it will not be effective to hold in long term.
1130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why do you invest in ICOs? on: July 27, 2017, 07:09:06 PM
Ico has a very good correlation to support the success of a business project, a good stock offering makes us a leader before the tokens are in the market trading, we automatically become the initial supplier to their success and we get compensation value, I still remember when facebook publish ipo and very Success in a few years, all who become investors will surely enjoy the results doubled, it's similar to ico. Only we need to choose and analyze where is good and where is not worth to invest.
1131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: July 26, 2017, 11:26:12 PM
Better not to focus on gambling alone, to apply limits by balancing the economy to other businesses so that we are not always encouraged to gamble every day, long-term understanding of gambling : we do not always have to do bets all-in with absolute Luck, the fact is to keep a few percent for a small daily win, just like any other business.
1132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: July 26, 2017, 11:13:43 PM
Is gambling OK? Don't bet it! There's not an easy or instantly obvious proof text answer to that question.
In the eyes of tye god the gamblibg us a sin. It is banned to the public places because it is not suitable for the teenager, and sometimes the involve influence the other especially the kids. In this situation, they know the younger  how to gamble because this is what they see on the elder. The one reason is bot the  right way to an get, if you become addicted not only yourself was the affected also the people who are in your surrounding.

Indeed gambling is only suitable for people who have intention, capital, and enough experience. From 100% maybe 70% of people will fall into negative holes because of very interesting promotions, but that's a gamble, they draw the courage of our challenge with the best profit appeal.

I set the line that gambling is not a sin, although in terms of promotion it doesn't set age restrictions, but actually people have their respective expertise included in the gamble.
1133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: POKER - What is really important for you!? on: July 26, 2017, 11:04:26 PM
What's on my eyes are sports betting and casino, but I do really like to learn more about poker. I also do hope it's an interesting game to play on.

Poker makes the difference, cause you not playing against the house - you play against other players. This is why it is a sport for many people.

i am considering poker as a sport even if i don't know how to play. i don't know what i am expecting from pokerroom because i am not playing poker, maybe later when i meet my friend which is familiar with poker, i will asked him. if there is a guide or at least tutorial for this game, i think i want to learn how to playing poker with easy.

Poker is interesting because our greedy nature not only always leads to the edge, so we cannot underestimate all the people who are at the poker table. Existing social elements make us more comfortable playing and able to bring greater confidence when 1-2 people lose in the game. This social element that makes it different than other gambling, analysis can be read quickly through the opponents around your table.
1134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: July 26, 2017, 10:57:52 PM
I do limit myself, I promise never to take money out of my pocket to deposit in a gambling site. Been doing it for a year now, only playing from collected funds from faucet sites and it never fails me. Was able to withdraw more than I should have from faucet sites.

It is also a kind of discipline if you limit yourself especially in gambling. It means you can control your urge to spend more on gambling. Me too, I do set a limit, say for example I have to lose only  say $10. More than that I have to stop.

So you are saying that when you gamble and you limit yourself to $10 you are still playing more than you're limit? Because even if you say no I think you are lying. I know that most of us are gambling and limiting ourselves for real, but we can't really avoid it. The best thing to do is when you gamble, just bring the money you are limited to so you can't use your extra.

Can also apply a special weekly capital saving pattern to gamble, so the lower gambling portion can make the mind more fresh and clean, after which we are ready to gamble all-out. In a week we accumulate a large amount of capital from free money without ever thinking of revenge if win or lose. Gambling for 1-2 days a week will be very effective.
1135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: July 26, 2017, 10:47:18 PM
Superstition is just a kind of suggestive nature, owned by some gamblers who have an anxious nature in his heart, this is the same as in online games where we get the power of every item used. This is not wrong but we better apply more lifestyle by using logic. The worst effects of luck like superstition will make a person go mad.
1136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: July 26, 2017, 10:39:58 PM
No word is over. Although it's time to rest. The gamblers will definitely not stop until they will get defeated. Because of their insatiable nature Time for them is money

They won't stop as long as they are not recovering half from their total loss. It's very unusual to see gamblers that will just accept defeat and go home, sleep and will let the day pass. But if you are a new gambler you need to take a rest for that time if you have a lot of loss, let that loss be your lost and gain it again tomorrow.

If conditions in one gambling period are impossible to win and we are stuck in high emotion, then there is no need to wait for capital recovery at that moment, must force to stop and leave and after that try to calm the frustration, better save hope for next. day than spend all in one day.
1137  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Nah Lo, Bounty Threads mulai di bredel di marketplace/altcoins section on: July 26, 2017, 07:25:23 PM
makanya ane paling  males kalo rules nya suruh post di thread tiap minggu, cari yang simple aja ane mah gan. masih banyak bounty yang gak perlu di post link tweet dan facebook nya.

kebetulan saya tidak ikut bounty sosmed jadi post cuma hilang 1 dibagian reg signature, tenang saja gan, soal sosmed manajernya tetap tanggungjawab dan carikan solusi. Yang projeknya belum dibuatkan ann baru tandanya memang belum aktif atau akunnya keban ga boleh post 3 hari.

Iya kemarin baru daftar signature dengan jumlah awal post sebelum ikut signature 193 lah setelah ada razia banyak thread dihapus malah berkurang 15 post ikutan kehapus. Apa boleh buat nutupin kekurangan post yang kehapus dulu. Tapi mending sich cuma post yang kehapus karena denger" ada yang malah di banned atau gak bisa ikutan program signature 30 hari. Padahal  30 hari bisa ikutan signature 1 ico tuh, kasihan tuh rugi.

post mau ga mau harus dikejar ulang, kecuali yang hitungan stakenya mingguan tinggal pm saja.
tadinya saya pikir juga sudah kena, tapi ternyata ga/belum berlaku buat semuanya, theymos masih belum jelas kasih sikap.
1138  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 26, 2017, 07:16:38 PM
mendekati akhir bulan harga bitcoin perlahan turun kembali yang tadinya sudah mencapai 36 jutaan beberapa hari yang lalu tapi untuk hari ini sudah menginjak 33 juta tapi mudah-mudahan aja ga terjadi panic sell andaikan bitcoin terus turun
Soalnya mau mendekati tanggal 1 agustus gan .  Market bitcoin memang diperkirakan pada akhir bulan ini akan mengalami kepanikan karena pasar melihat bagaimana nanti bitcoin akan berkembang dan juga bagaimana yang akan terjadi pada bitcoin .  Kalo yang ane lihat sih saat saat ini penurunan terbilang normal masih belum terlalu terjadi koreksi .  Kalo mau aman mungkin mendingan langsung di exchange ke rupiah saja.
mungkin ini hanya kepanikan yang menyebabkan harga bitcoin turun naik,tapi sebenarnya kita tidak perlu panik dengan tanggal 1 agustus,
tapi benar menurut agan  kalo untuk mencari aman sebiknya di widh ke rupiah..

Panik ga sebesar yang dibayangkan, komunitas sudah semakin siap untuk sekedar hold atau beralih ke konversi altcoin
4 hari ini memang sangat menentukan, saya pikir harga akan terus menurun tapi ga sampai 25 juta.
1139  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: mungkinkah BTC mengusai keuangan dunia? on: July 26, 2017, 07:07:15 PM
happy sunday.. saya mau tanya nih ke agan agan semua.. saya masih newbie dan br mengenal bitcoin. melihat trend btc dari tahun ke tahun makin melonjak harganya,
1.mungkin ga sih btc mengusai keuangan dunia?
2.apa penyebab?

mohon pencerahannya.... Cheesy

salam hangat


lionheart89
Menguasai keuangan dunia dalam konteks apa dulu gan? apa menggantikan legalitas dollar atau gimana maksud agan? pada hakekatnya mata uang digintal tidak akan pernah bisa menggantikan mata uang ril.

ya ada unsur kesitu juga jika konteksnya menguasai, ini akan jadi perjalanan panjang dan saya pikir bitcoin akan mendapatkan dukungan besar dari kalangan demokratis, pada akhirnya akan ada satu negara yang claim bitcoin sebagai mata uang tunggal.

Soal potensinya menguasai dunia bisa terjadi jika volume kenaikan tidak mampu dibendung walaupun dengan pelarangan resmi sekaligus, win-win solution dari capitalis adalah penerapan kyc secara massif dan pemberlakuan proposal penerapan bitcoin sebagai mata uang bersama seluruh dunia. Ini akan menyetop upaya pelemahan fiat, sekuat apapun dunia blocking teknologi internet tetap ada saja pihak yang pro, ga akan pernah sepaham.
1140  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: apa sih pekerjaan kalian selain main bitcoin? on: July 26, 2017, 06:57:14 PM
wiraswasta biasa, rencana nanti kalo dah terbiasa dengan trading bisa benar-benar resign, totalitas selalu membuahkan hasil manis, awalnya cuma tertarik ikut bounty campaign tapi setelah masuk seksi altcoin faktanya semua akan berujung ke market trading, ini potensi pekerjaan yang bagus, membina hubungan dengan teman2 bitcoin bagus untuk relasi.
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