If Minecache is also holding ETC the it proves that they are scared that there is a chance that ETH could lose in this race. That is a good sign if you ask me. I encourage all ETH users to split their holdings and hold ETC also.
You numbnuts I didn't buy the ETC criminal coin it was allocated to me for my ETH hodlings. Yes. And it is not only you doing this. There are a host of others. So meaning that there is value in the original chain than what we really thought before. Not everyone will dump. Why would they when it has a chance to be sold at better prices.
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There is also a book called Business Blockchain. I just the summary and it looks good to read in my spare time. It is all about the possibilities of the internet giving profit directly to the users. It is a concept we are already seeing with projects like Steemit.
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I don't belive that hacker will dump all ETC just becouse he is courious where it will go. For ETC this is just onother whale with big chunk of coin that supress ETC price. But porobably over time he will sell off his shares. If he dump you will see ETC for 0,01$ ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ... capitalization is not real value. We will see where all will go. If i would invest in ETC ar ETH i should go with that one have or will have more projects onboard hisstory doeasn't matter. Me too. Usually, the coin with the most projects will be the one that will be the most supported over the long term. ETC only has a minority of users into it, while ETH has the biggest investors and development team. I'm pretty sure that once Casper PoS hits out for ETH, things will be a lot better than what they are right now. Just my opinion. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If ETH goes from POW to Casper POS then the miners will all transfer to ETC. The supporters of the forked chain must be very careful before getting excited about the switch to Casper. There are arguments that it is not a feasible way to reach consensus and that the system can be cheated by a majority. If they really want to make that switch soon then good for ETC. Miners are welcome there.
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It is still not very sure where ETC will go. It has a potential to go after ETH if there is a proper road map, development team, financial backers and other technical contributors. Charles Hoskinson is ready to make contributions in the form of code and maybe advice on how to maintain and improve the platform. But I heard some supporters of the ETC community do not want him to participate. So what is the plan on ETC? It cannot live on hype alone.
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The hype is now wearing off and it is time for the original Ethereum classic to tackle on serious matters. For instance what is the road map from now to one year from now? What are the plans? Who will step forward to bring the platform forward so that it could compete with ETH?
The price will now continue to go down from now on. So it is important for the supporters of ETC to become organized before more and more people decide to leave.
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A few months ago I thought it will reach $50 this year. But now that goal cannot be reached for this year. The stain of the hard fork will be too hard to clean up and forget. For the time being ETH will go down below .001 BTC by the end of the year. This is my speculation.
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Hi everyone . what is your opinion about the dogecoin price in 1 year from now. is there any possible rise in this crypto?
It will be at the same price. Maybe there might be a pump happening but it will still go back down. The only thing that saved this coin is the merge mine with litecoin. Without it the hashing power it has will keep going down because there is no more profit in mining doge. It will be vulnerable to attacks. Thankfully they decided to merge mine.
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Thank you for the replies. They are really helpful. I am now looking to do more research on the GTX 1070. I am also looking for which MOBO is good for mining. So if anyone has good suggestions, I am listening.
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What are the technical updates on Stratis? In what exchanges do they plan to get listed in. I'm sure it will be on Bittrex. But what about the other exchanges?
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Anyone could claim theyre "the attacker" and that they either dump / support ETC to manipulate the price. And he only atacked dao to get rich, not because he has a kind heart and cares about eTC, don't be naive and stupid. I mean, i do expect alot of messages from hacker / manipulators to try and manipulate the price further by telling something and doing the opposite, like chandler guo guy who threatened to atack ETC and then mined on it because the difficulty was so low, it was profitable. Better play lottery than invest in ETC, you'll never have inside information about the manipulations ahead.
The point of this post I agree with. Yes, it is every man for himself in trading in the cryptosphere. Any newbie that comes here in the forum is a sheep among wolves. Some of them get skinned alive but others adapt and get out a better investor but has become more cynical and skeptical.
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So there's no chance of seeing DAPPs on ETC, except for the very small and unimportant ones, like betting dapps and so on, only short term projects with sole purpose of boosting market cap by attracting ill informed people about ETC's curent developing state.
You are already judging it and deeming your statement as a matter of fact. We have not even seen what future lies ahead with the forked chain yet. It could still fail and everyone will be in a hurry to get back to the original chain. Remember the important dapps in the forked chain are also confused now in what the future holds in Ethereum fork.
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These guys are quite wise, they sold the bitcoin before the hack and pump the ETC. It is quite suspicious. I hope the DAO hacker and the Bitfinex hacker are not related. Bitfinex has reported to law enforcement. We might find out later. It does not matter if they are related or not. The DAO hacker will not make much profit when the ETC collapses. If the DAO hacker sells privately through multiple small accounts, we wont necessarily see him cashing out the millions as this whole pump has currently been taking place, your logic is flawed because you assume hes going to sell or transfer the whole amount at one time, visibly We will know the trace of the DAO hacker if he sells at exchanges. He will be caught by the authorities. Again this. But what is the charge against him? Not even Vitalik himself will go after him because the attacker also has an argument that can charge Vitalik. Due to technicalities the attacker will not go to jail even if the find him.
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I disagree that only a portion of the people are using torrents. I see my grandpa knows about it and is making my uncle download old movies from it if they can find it. He also makes him download golf tournaments, instructional videos, golf books and magazines, etc. The point is that even though he is not the one actively using it but he knows about it. Knowing where the source is is already enough for information to be spread and shared widely. But if it is taken away then as I said it will go to the underground and then a price tag can be put on it.
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@pereira4
Do NOT forget Butters admitted publicly to dumping 25% of his "holdings" a while back. And people have tried to say he did it while the coin was about $6 each ..which is bullshit. Which amounts to 1 million dollars $$$ he TOLD YOU ALL he dumped on you !
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Where the fuck did he get that 25% and the other 75% waiting to be dumped ?
Care ? Of course you guys don't.. ICO ? Scam ? Who gives a shit.. will it make me profit ?
Then you all line up to scream and chant.. TAKE MY MONEY NOW !
It's funny how those ETH bagholders will defend anything Vitalik says or does. Vitalik dumps 25% of his holdings? Cool. Vitalik hard forks to bailout himself and other deep pocket dev investors? Cool. Vitalik demands exchanges to stop all trading so people can't sell? Cool. The cult mentality behind Vitalik and the shit-tier developers in ETH is a case of study. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ysAndreas and Charles totally destroyed that Martin moron guy. I like Charles much more than Vitalik, he is down to earth and more mature and less autistic. ETH fundamentals are doomed and the coin only lives in the innertia that it has built thus far. The ETH holders are not blinded by Vitalik. They are blinded by the potential money they will make by holding ETH. Vitalik knows this and is using it to get his way of running things. Greed is what is making their "community" follow him. The minute ETH will start to really crash just watch these same people all go back to the original chain. Most of them will even start calling Vitalik names.
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not if there are no pow phase, without pow phase i see it as a scam and nothing more, notice how every shit non-pow coin, died eventually
and only pow are leading the top position
What do you think of zcash's system of paying back investors? It is a POW coin that has miney invested in their development team. Their scheme of paying back investors is that the first 4 years of mining will reward 50 coins and 10% of that will go to the zcash foundation and the other 10% will be to repay the investors. I am not sure about the details but this is what I got from reading their forums.
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Projects that obviously have massive amounts of work and have developers that are not newbies help to sway me. But, even those can be scams.
I recently invested in Pioneer Shares which gives you a piece of an exchange which is being developed. I invested primarily because I trust the developer. Also, took a very small piece of Breakout due to the work in the ANN. Long term projects so, time will tell.
99% I don't even consider.
Mostly, I just mine.
What you said in your 1st paragraph does not compute with your 2nd paragraph. You want proven developers that are doing massive work on their projects. Yet you support Pioneer Shares and Breakout? Those are 2 of the shadiest projects I have heard of.
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Sorry, DAO was a disaster that spread across ETH, now they are trying to save face claiming the fork was a good idea when everyone knows they fucked up big, big time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ysExcellent video to see both sides of the coin, and ETC objectively wins the debate. No the fork was a gud success. It's the muppets like yourself supporting the ETC criminal coin that's at fault. Why do you keep saying criminal coin? When in fact it was Vitalik that has done the biggest crime in the cryptosphere by tinkering with the transaction history for the benefit of the few. What happened to his core values as a supporter of decentralization and anti censorship? That all is flushed down the toilet because why? MONEY.
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Litecoinguy should update the OP. The mining algorithm it is using is Equihash. I believe it is CPU mining only and the zcash team intends for it to stay that way. It is only in testnet for now with the alpha release. They also indicated that it is possible that there will be changes in the algorithm in the future.
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I used to think it was impossible for Ethereum to be "game over". But after seeing ETC gaining traction, it is now getting more possible day by day that it is indeed close to "game over". ETH prefork holders should split their coins and hold ETC also.
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The many you mean that also include the miners? Or is it only the community minus the miners. Because if it includes also the miners then I suspect that we should be seeing ETC hash power overtaking ETH hash power. If the miners do not really care much and just mine the more profitable chain then we should exclude them from the "many".
The many includes the miners. When we see a miner going from threatening an attack on ETC to actually mining the coin, I would say that someone changed their mind. The miners will follow how the community votes with their wallets and that is how it should be in a POW coin. Ethereum Foundation prior to the current HF and now after, have been looking into the possibility of changing their network from a PoW to a PoS. If the Devs think they have resolved the issues associated with it and decide to indeed change to PoS, many PoW miners (as of the time of writing, 3645 GH/s) would be dropped and forced to find revenue somewhere else. I assume that certain miners are thinking way ahead and see that they might be left behind if a PoS change takes place. So when that one miner wanted to attack but now supports the coin, I think he finally thought things through. ETC gives the miners somewhere to go with good volume and good price, if that day comes. The it would be good to declare that the original Ethereum classic backers to delay or even junk the switch to POS depending on the outcome of it on the forked chain. This will leverage ETC's position as the chain for the miners to point their hashing power. It will also make the fork an "experimental" chain. All successful upgrades will be ported to ETC discarding the rest. This is all slowly going the original chain's way.
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