Can anyone tell me how long does it take for a bank transfer to get into BTC-E ?
5-7 days, read their FAQ Thanks but I am not interested in the FAQ answer. I want to know the real practical answer from someone doing it on a regular basis. 5-7 days, read their FAQ send it today and have the money just in time to catch the bottom?
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That picture was much used in the "great denial" market stage in May ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) great denial of what?? that bitcoin would move higher Bahahahaha
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I have orders at Stamp for the rest of my fiat down to upper 400s - but I don't want to be left in fiat when new cash comes in.... The bears have another 96 hours or so, MAX. I want to be all in BTC when the noob cavalry with the investor artillery comes riding over the hill.
Bear market will be done soon, then the medium / long bet MUST be UP if the exchanges remain (reasonably) reliable.
Have you seen Stamp's order book? Bid's have exploded. 12.75 mil now. I would be worried about being left with that fiat if I were you, the money is pouring in. Dont make it worse ;'( Explosion is due to a simple matter. Europe goes to sleep and prepares for flashcrashes. Of Bitstamp's bids, 5% are mine. When I wake up, I lift them and then the price may move again. Probably not the only one thinking like this.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgifrific.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2FJennifer-Lawrence-ok-thumbs-up.gif&t=663&c=_uT5qgx3fAuTmA)
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4 hour chart going DOWN , its bear time.
its been bear time for you since 200 cool it.
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Rule #1) Never buy all at once. Rule #2) Never sell all at once. Rule #3) Never sell all your coins.
Rule #4) Never buy at an all time high...well mostly. Wait for pullbacks. Rule #5) stick to your trades
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if i was a billionaire i'd buy bitcoin to 1000 now just for kicks.
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But whatever. This is offtopic anyways and we will see whether bitcoin will be destroyed by the gold gold gold idiots or if it excels because of its technical advantages.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3BJ8o1W.gif&t=663&c=R6_9aef1J78KIA) emotions are high ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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You forget, that you are obligated to accept government currency as a payment.
No you aren't. My business, my terms of trade. where in the world do you live? hint: say the internet ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBc69hS4.png&t=663&c=_WevRzEl4Ddy-w) feelings? love
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as of now we got a well balanced book .. seems the the 580-600 price range is considered fair .. as of now ..
yes the dust is clearing. but will their be another bear? I'm counting on it.... hmm.. we are pretty much still in bear country .. but if a retest of the lows @450 hold .. and it shifts back in the favour of demand . then the bears had their turn .. and the market is ready for an advance .. or rangebound betwenn 450 -650 .. but hey if an rally atempt takes out 630 .. we are pretty much set for another rally if their is a retest.... i think their will be, i have 15K that says their will be! if not my wife will get all kinds of goodies for Xmas.
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as of now we got a well balanced book .. seems the the 580-600 price range is considered fair .. as of now ..
yes the dust is clearing. but will their be another bear? I'm counting on it.... How much do you holdi n btc and how much fiat? i am 80% fiat good stuff now place bids and pray to wtv god you believe in.
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as of now we got a well balanced book .. seems the the 580-600 price range is considered fair .. as of now ..
yes the dust is clearing. but will their be another bear? I'm counting on it....
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Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.
How can big money be stored away safely if bitcoin is still tied to fiat currency? If fiat currency collapses, bitcoin no longer has anything to compare itself to, so how would we express value then? Using valuation in bitcoin itself? How would that work since there's a limited amount... I suppose comparing to gold or oil would be the answer. maybe water? Bitcoin is a protocol and a technology; it's just a layer, not necessarily the layer that directly touches the end-user. It's the many bitcoin businesses that emerge that will leverage the bitcoin technology directly and provide a consumer friendly service to deliver a wide variety of financial products and services, and compete with each other to solve all problems relating to transaction time, security, etc. I'm sorry but this is complete bullshit. The first goal of bitcoin should be to be able to handle the same amount of transactions as visa. And it is 1700 visa transactions vs 7 possible bitcoin transactions. I don't understand why so many don't want to see that problem. Still high from the last ath? Bitcoin is not gold. 7/sec is enough for now their are many solutions, we are actively looking at the solutions and trying to figure out which is best. this is what software is all about really...
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Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.
How can big money be stored away safely if bitcoin is still tied to fiat currency? If fiat currency collapses, bitcoin no longer has anything to compare itself to, so how would we express value then? Using valuation in bitcoin itself? How would that work since there's a limited amount... I suppose comparing to gold or oil would be the answer. maybe water?
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Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.
How can big money be stored away safely if bitcoin is still tied to fiat currency? If fiat currency collapses, bitcoin no longer has anything to compare itself to, so how would we express value then? Using valuation in bitcoin itself? How would that work since there's a limited amount... sea shells, and food stamps.
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So much for the maturing infrastructure, all exchanges are plagued by glitches not worthy of a multi billion currency .
The exchanges are incurable. Do I really need to do this? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) lol wtf hire a programer and make an exchange!
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stamp > gox by 20? WTF?
What happened with all those people crying that they can't get money out of gox? they dont care they are bears they will just buy back "lower"
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its in times like these we see poeples true colors
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let me pop that bubble for ya: it's not the money of the future that doesn't mean you can make great money from naive people though ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) it is money of the future if you can't see that, i'm sorry for you... a money that wastes energy on a permanent basis is not money of the future. but hey, atleast we're making money selling the idea to naive people ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) USD is the future of payment!
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