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If Minecache is also holding ETC the it proves that they are scared that there is a chance that ETH could lose in this race. That is a good sign if you ask me. I encourage all ETH users to split their holdings and hold ETC also.
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So why parity?
Parity and going above that will be seen as a symbolic win for the original chain. Not only that, it will also attract more miners to mine the original Ethereum classic chain. It will make it secure and a more viable platform to build dapps on. |
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Immutability in a blockchain is there if the majority allows it. The majority voted for the hard fork to undo the catastrophe that the DAO became. Since the majority voted, ETH is the updated Ethereum chain. ETC is more of an eth-altcoin. Immutability was never broken because it was majority decision.
The majority did not even vote. Only a small percentage of users have voted. This is known all over by the community. The voting on carbonvote is a farce organized by Vitalik. |
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The ones getting in are the traders. They make mini pumps and dumps and take advantage of the volatility to buy low and sell high. This is very hard to do and surely most of them playing the market will lose or will only make small profit. There will be a very few who will make big money. I suspect the people who already made big money are probably out of ETC now.
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It is actually weakening. I speculate that this could go back down to .0025 - .0030. If you are a long term investor and want to look for a good price then it is good to wait for now. The hype will go away but there is value in this long term.
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Let me get this quite straight before I have a laugh attack: You want a lot of people, ETC investors all, to sign a "petition" so the ETH hackers who stole the ETC will return what they stole? Do you even realize how funny that is? Do you think a few hundred -or thousand, or hundred of thousand- signatures will make them to reconsider and become good guys all of a sudden --assuming they are not fully convinced they have been just smarter than you and the other victims? OK, after almost getting sick of laughing so hard, thanks for showing me that naivety still exists... to call it by it most innocent name, of course. W.O.W... Wrong - I want DAO holders to sign the petition which basically outlines that members of the Ethereum white hat hacker team should return the 7.2 million ETC back to DAO Investors. The ETC funds held by them is currently worth 18 million dollars and this issue isn't being brought to light. What are they planning to do with it? Is it not that it is also theirs? The white hackers only did a service to transfer the funds so that the attacker cannot get them. Now that it is all over they want it back. Do you think they still have the right to claim what is on the old chain even though they were bailed out in the fork? They can double everything? I am now confused. If they don't present a clear point of view people would just think they are planning to use them for themselves or something. Is it not there funds in the first place? Being DAO holders they are eligible to have a share of the ETH stored in the DAO. Please explain why you think otherwise because I might have missed something. |
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If you are already in by way of the ICO then you hold. What is the reason for selling now? You will have to be patient because these things take time. Have faith in Sasha. He will deliver and everyone will be happy.
If you sell now, you can buy cheaper coins in the future. But if you got in thru the ICO there is no need to take that risk. I will just wait and buy more. Maybe if you are an active trader then I will tend to agree. But for me why take that risk when you are an ICO buyer? What if out of greed you sell now and it goes up? Remember this will not stay at this price level forever. Waves has organized one of the most successful ICO in the cryptosphere. |
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Yes. The fork is because there is an agenda behind it that is beneficial only to a few. This brings me to a question. If the bitcoin XT fork occurred will it have the same outcome as Ethereum's fork. Will there be a split in the community? Because the XT people say it will be fine.
... What has occurred in Ethereum is the few persuading the many to accept a fork that was in reality only for the benefit of the few. One can even call it a 51% attack by persuasion and salesmanship. A significant portion of what we are witnessing now is the many having buyer's remorse after the sales job that was done on them. The many you mean that also include the miners? Or is it only the community minus the miners. Because if it includes also the miners then I suspect that we should be seeing ETC hash power overtaking ETH hash power. If the miners do not really care much and just mine the more profitable chain then we should exclude them from the "many". |
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If you are already in by way of the ICO then you hold. What is the reason for selling now? You will have to be patient because these things take time. Have faith in Sasha. He will deliver and everyone will be happy.
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Let me get this quite straight before I have a laugh attack: You want a lot of people, ETC investors all, to sign a "petition" so the ETH hackers who stole the ETC will return what they stole? Do you even realize how funny that is? Do you think a few hundred -or thousand, or hundred of thousand- signatures will make them to reconsider and become good guys all of a sudden --assuming they are not fully convinced they have been just smarter than you and the other victims? OK, after almost getting sick of laughing so hard, thanks for showing me that naivety still exists... to call it by it most innocent name, of course. W.O.W... Wrong - I want DAO holders to sign the petition which basically outlines that members of the Ethereum white hat hacker team should return the 7.2 million ETC back to DAO Investors. The ETC funds held by them is currently worth 18 million dollars and this issue isn't being brought to light. What are they planning to do with it? Is it not that it is also theirs? The white hackers only did a service to transfer the funds so that the attacker cannot get them. Now that it is all over they want it back. Do you think they still have the right to claim what is on the old chain even though they were bailed out in the fork? They can double everything? I am now confused. |
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The forked chain will not die easily. I keep repeating it here in the forum that there will be a mining arms race between the original Ethereum classic and the Ethereum fork. It already has begun and some parties are already expressing their interest in mining the original chain. Now the only question that remains is will it be profitable for the miners? So that will depend in the price of ETC. Higher ETC price = higher hash rate.
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Hello. I want to ask in this topic which GPU to use in general. I have the money so there is no problem in that department and I am willing to spend to by a GPU to start mining altcoins with a good card. Reading the topics in this forum I noticed that there are 2 cards that stand out. They are the Nvidia GTX 1070 and the AMD Radeon R9 Nano.
Are these are 2 latest popular cards? Please give me a review and the pros and cons of each in mining.
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It is not just about the weight alone. It also about the mental toughness also. If this fight will be a rough fight and will go to either side without one fighter dominating, it will give the advantage to Nate because he is more used to these kinds of fighting. Connor should mentally harden himself for this fight because it will come to that.
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I am trying to decide if I should use the online wallet at https://wallet.mynxt.info/ or if I should download and install the nxt wallet onto my pc. I assume the online MyNXT wallet is safe. Any suggestions?I have used it from time to time and I have no problems ever since. I also have not seen any hacking that have occurred with the site shich is a good sign. I would like to hear what the others think because I might have missed something. |
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Bitpop, there is an unmoderated ETC thread open. Will you continue with this thread or will you lock it in the near future? Maybe it is good to try the unmoderated thread for now and just reopen this thread when things get messy there. What do you think?
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This will turn the tide for the original Ethereum classic. Miners from other altcoins are most welcome to secure the network. If everything will go well it will be profitable for them, beneficial to the community and will become an open and fair playground for the developers. Bravo people! |
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Thank you for posting the information in the OP. The coin is very stable and it is a sign that it is good to invest and hold it for a while. My question is there a light wallet for this? I do not like to download another blockchain. But if I have no choice how big is the Factom blockchain now?
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I speculate that this recent price will not hold. Some traders will take profit at the first sign that there will be weakness. It has moved up very quickly and it makes it unstable because the buy support cannot catch up.
I speculate it won't stop until everyone has sold their ETH for ETC. This will accelerate as more and more idiots realize that if they don't sell ETH, they will lose all. Fools are slow to act until they panic at the end. Also you are underestimating the power of bull run vortex on crypto speculators. Crypto speculators tend to dive headfirst into opportunities to make a quick 300% gain. ETH has no future because Vitalik proved the blockchain can't be trusted. If we want blockchains to remain immutable, ETC must win. I think Bitcoin supporters will make sure ETC wins against ETH. I think the DAO benefactor hacker is likely profiting big time on leveraged ETH shorts, while being leveraged long on ETC. So he can use proceeds to drive the price the direction he wants, while never needing to actually cash out of ETC. Bitcoin investors would love to see ETC kill ETH. And if they can make money doing that, then it is a nobrainer. But there is an equivalent number of ETC in the Ethereum foundation's premine of ETH. Don't you think Vitalik will once again make a desperate move to save the fork by dumping all the ETC they can potentially have and buy ETH with it? My estimated guess is he is naive but not that dumb (to think he can fight the market with certainty). Remember he did diversify and sold 25% of his ETH, having learned from holding BTC all the way down in 2014/5. And if he does, then it will just be Vitalik destroying himself at the end, while the other fools have one more chance to sell ETH to Vitalik so he is left holding the bag.  That is unless Vitalik can work some of his mesmerizing magic with his words, somehow deluding a large swath of people that he can create something for ETH that would justify the loss of immutability trustlessness of the blockchain. I don't think he can any more. He has played that card already. ETC can copy any open source improvements worth having. Some mETH heads might be thinking Ethereum is leaderless if Vitalik loses this battle, but I don't think ETC investors care. Speculators want to make a buck and if they can enforce correct ideology as well, all for the better. Perhaps some fresh opportunities for others to contribute on the concept of smart blockchains might spawn some new innovation that Vitalik et al didn't accomplish in 2 years. They were given $millions to play with and so it isn't like they didn't get theirs or weren't given every opportunity to perform. I am hoping Vitalik will capitulate and join ETC and in more of a subservient (as in serving and honorable) role to the community. That would be the best outcome I think. The correct ideology would win, Vitalik would grow up, etc.. P.S. I am assuming the financial back of the price manipulator behind ETH will be broken. If that is not the case, then I guess we could ride a yoyo seesaw. I think perhaps this manipulator is hedging his options. That is an insightful assessment. But I disagree that it would be good if Vitalik joined the original Ethereum classic. There is an argument that it is still his creation. No. He abandoned it and it has been now adopted by a small community that does not need the real father. It will be better that way so that he will have no way to corrupt it. Charles Hoskison has declared that he will contribute in the original chain. What is your opinion on this? Is he someone that will be good for ETC? |
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The authorities are only pushing torrenting underground making it hard for ordinary people to get access to it. Soon the people who are more informed will be the only one to have access to torrents. I foresee that this will create a black market for pirated movies, music, books, etc. for sale on the internet when it was supposed to be free for everyone. Some people will catch up but most will not and would rather pay for pirated stuff.
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At this point.. none of them are.
That is the right answer. Cross Referencing Data is the reason why all anon solutions fails. Your IP address is not anon, Your Browser info is not anon, Your Email Address is not anon, Your Bank Account which you linked is not anon, Your address where you mailed or received goods is not anon, there are no guarantees the person that did business with you did not sell your identifiable information. All anon solutions will fail til they can solve all of the above.  1. i2p 2. secure browser 3. i2p email address 4. use cash and use the i2p exchange or btc-e 5. a real pickle, i don't think any coin can solve this Hmm I too think thats not something a coin itself can or should solve. I believe there will be a way to deliver stuff without you having to give your address, or that of someone else. The basic technology that could make that happen already exist... but I think it is many years away from actually being a practical thing... so I wouldn't hold my breath. Then there is value to the coin that can solve this. Clearly the solution is something we have not thought of before because most of think that it cannot be solved. I am optimistic that it can because there are brilliant and clever people tackling the problem right now. |
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