Check 1d at Moody. Such classic. Yall know what to do. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Actually, no I don't. Bounce or continuation of rally after extreme correction? SELL SELL SELL
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Check 1d at Moody. Such classic. Yall know what to do. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Oh noez! We're over $1000 again. I guess it's time to panic sale! Going to $75! Bears make me laugh. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) $75? Don't be crazy. Bottom is $100. But, admittedly, $200 looks more likely right now.
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its going to go up again in 20 mins ...
Source?
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PANDA AMBUSH IN PROGRESS! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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i wish im wrong but i feel this like a trap >.< the same guy pushing the price up is the one adding the selling walls -.- and then when it places it to push and starts to get eaten he removes it ... i wish im wrong and we go to the moon tho, wich will do sooner or later ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is exactly what is happening ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Wow So manipulation Such litecoin wow Actually, altcoins followed bitcoin's lead. You can find plenty of posts from 2010 and 2011 documenting bitcoin's moving walls and other price manipulating techniques. How do you think we got to where we are today? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Didn't buy in in time, did we? Oh, i certainly did. I'm just waiting for the most opportune time to dump tens of thousands of btc on all these bulltards. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Pretty weak trend right now.
Just wait until China wakes up. US markets look silly compared to them. Not when you consider that the most voluminous traders on the chinese exchanges are amurikans who are looking for a place to launder and manipulate the price. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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i wish im wrong but i feel this like a trap >.< the same guy pushing the price up is the one adding the selling walls -.- and then when it places it to push and starts to get eaten he removes it ... i wish im wrong and we go to the moon tho, wich will do sooner or later ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is exactly what is happening ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Wow So manipulation Such litecoin wow Actually, altcoins followed bitcoin's lead. You can find plenty of posts from 2010 and 2011 documenting bitcoin's moving walls and other price manipulating techniques. How do you think we got to where we are today? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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volume on gox seems very low, not so on btcchina
it is just because of the 0% fee or have a meaning?
It has no meaning. The Chinese are nihilists.
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Under $200 by Friday. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Not relevant. The ban had nothing to do with the price drop. BTCChina's new ID verification requirements, on the other hand, have everything to do with the drop. The price manipulators and launderers need to find a new exchange.
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Funny how the same ones who call bitcoin a Ponzi are also pumping silver. If bitcoin is a Ponzi then so is silver. What isn't a Ponzi these days? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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It looks like there is no definitive answer to this, then?
I personally don't think it is fraud. Nobody is being forced in to participating. And I believe if a disclaimer is put down, warning people of the risks involved, then it definitely can't be listed as fraud at this point. Right?
Let's say the announced it was fraud, would the organizer(s) committing this fraud just receive a cease immediately notice or worse?
Did you read any of the above posts? Yes, there is a definitive answer.
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Pump and dump of voucher values is legal as it isn't a financial product. Bitcoin isn't legal tender, or a currency or anything that the whole world can agree on, and so its value is going to be subject to these pumps and dumps for the foreseeable.
Calling it fraud is very naive and would only be valid if you were only willing to buy and sell at a value you felt it was worth - like maybe the $10 a coin it was 12 months ago. Selling at current market price would seem to suggest that fraud is only an issue when the price drops! ;-)
At least one federal court has already called it an "investment". That puts it within aim of the SEC. *edit* To be more precise, an "investment contract security". http://www.theracetothebottom.org/home/securities-exchange-commission-v-shavers-court-finds-bitcoin.html
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Break out in progress.
Bull trap.
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Ahhh. A refreshing little buy. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The buyer and seller are clearly the same trader. This tends to happen as we approach psychological barriers. In this case, $800.
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The crash has almost nothing to do with the "quasi"-ban on bitcoins and everything to do with new ID verification requirements by BTCChina. Same old story. An exchange attracts money launderers and price manipulators. Then requires ID verification. The criminals flee to another exchange. My guess is someone will set up the new btcchina in India soon.
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