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1161  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (1GH/S per Unit) on: July 12, 2014, 08:06:09 AM
So CEX's price per GHS is ~0.00627.  Since Peta is now pretty much equivalent to CEX in operation, the current price of ~0.003 for a Peta GHS is a bargain!!

The Peta maintenance fee is lower by my calculations as well:
CEX = 20c per GHS / Month
Peta = 16.4c per GHS / Month (Based on 1150TH @ $625 / BTC)
1162  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 10, 2014, 11:14:48 AM
So I heard back from the PI today:

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Hello Sam,
The DMV has nothing at all on this person by name, not a single trace of a record whatsoever.   The license photo you sent looks real to me, but it may be fake?

I spoke to someone in enforcement at the DMV and the only thing they could do is "take it from there" if I bring a copy of this to them. We will not hear anything and by my experience there is likely very little they will do.

This guy is a ghost...but the license looks real......

Let me know what you would like to do next.  I am willing to bet that a visit to that address results in nobody knowing this guy, but that would seem like the next logical step.

So, that pretty much clinches it then; this license is a fake and is proof that this was a scam from the start.

For what it's worth, I have posted a copy of the license below.  I apologize for the poor quality of the image.  When I originally negotiated with 'Tom' for him to reveal some form of official ID to me.  He was extremely reluctant to do so (sighting fears that the SEC could somehow get hold of it - however remote the chance), so as part of the concessions on my part, I told him that he could obfuscate any detail he liked other than his name and address and that I would securely delete the file after I had viewed it - which I did.  However, before I deleted it I printed it off on a laser printer (in hindsight I should have printed it on a higher quality printer, however, I was not expecting any issues and only printed it off as a 'just in case').  The image you have is a scan of the B&W laser print of the photo that Tom sent me of his DL - hence the quality issues.



So I am going to call the PI in the next couple of days to discuss the whole situation and get his views on what we can do from here, but TBH, I think they've got away with it clean.  I still have a couple of minor leads to chase up, but I don't hold much hope of those getting me anywhere.

To 'Tom' & 'Jeff' et al:
I know you will be reading this, hoping that I haven't stumbled on some crucial piece of information which may reveal who you really are.  I'll give you this much; you ran a very believable operation and convinced a lot of people that you were legit, however, while you've got away with this scam, criminals like you tend to have very nervous dispositions, sleep with one eye open and feel the need to constantly look over their shoulder.  It saddens me that you feel the need to put your hand to such low down schemes such as this in order to feel 'successful'.  Unfortunately, the only thing you succeeded in achieving is to steal the hard-earned money of your honest shareholders, who's worst crime was taking you at your word.

I challenge you to get up right now, go stand in front of a mirror, look yourself in the eye and ask yourself if you're ok with what you've done.  Ask yourself if you really want to be the kind of man who takes advantage of others, who lies, steals and steps on other people for his own gain.  If your answer is 'no', then it's never too late to make amends, but if your answer is 'yes', then I truly fear for your future, because the road you are on only leads to one destination; destruction.  When you finally find yourself facing the consequences of your actions, maybe not any time soon, but trust me, you will face them, think back to my words and my warning and lament that you didn't change your path then, back when you had a choice.

And beware; because karma's a bitch!
1163  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Container on: July 09, 2014, 02:36:42 AM
Could I please get some clarification on what all this means for small buyers in terms or price / capacity?  ie; how much will a single DTMA unit now cost, what hashing capacity will it represent, and what will the OpEx costs be?

Another question is; what will we be 'buying'?  Will this be a purchase of mining gear, rental, shares representing earning capacity?  What kind of resale/onsale options will there be?

Also, I realise that this is very early days, and you may not be able to give me an answer at this point, but do you have any ideas on a ballpark timeframe for units to be ready for sale?  I assume it will now be quicker than the originally estimated 3-6 months?

Thanks.
1164  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 08, 2014, 01:20:45 AM
Ok, heard back from PI; it appears that he has a specific contact that he deals with at the DMV, who may be on leave at present.  He will give it another day and then try someone else.
1165  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 07, 2014, 09:31:06 PM
No update from the PI today.  I have emailed to confirm.
1166  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [IPO] CoinPal - Crypto-Currency Exchange & Profit Switching Mining Pool {NEW} on: July 06, 2014, 03:10:05 AM
Just to let everyone know this is 'RyanMilligan2', I had to switch accounts due to my own stupidity and forgetting my password (random numbers/letters)

I will be using this account from now on.

LOL dude, you must hold the record for 'most accounts locked out of' Cheesy

Can't you reset your password via email?
1167  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 06, 2014, 01:08:36 AM
Well, that's what he told me.  Maybe this is due to the holiday weekend as Chef Ramsay suggested?
1168  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 05, 2014, 03:17:24 PM
Got another reply back from the PI regarding timing for the information regarding the license; "should be Monday".

He also sent the following:
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I did some research through the databases we use that contain personal identifiers, address, and lots of other information on people here.  Nothing comes up on him with that birth date and nothing on his name in this state at all.  This is quite unusual for a 29-year-old guy and indicates he his not living a middle class lifestyle with credit cards, etc...

A search of database records on this address revealed no ties to a Thomas Mica.

No criminal records were found in the state on anyone named Thomas Mica.

No corporations or other business entities connected to his name in this state.

I did some extensive searching on the Internet I am finding nothing at all pertaining to a Thomas Mica in this region of the country.

So not a particularly good sign, but we'll see what comes back from the DMV.
1169  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 05, 2014, 03:26:35 AM
I just received a reply from the PI I sent the license information to.  He has sent the information to the DMV and expects to receive a reply 'next week'.  I have asked him if it is possible for him to give me a more specific timeframe and I will report back when he replies.
1170  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (15GH/S per Unit) on: July 05, 2014, 12:26:02 AM
So, if the latest vote passes, I'm guessing that this now means that there will be no future increases in total hashing power?  Does this mean that Peta is now equivalent to CEX in terms of operation? 

Does anyone know if CryptX is planning on adding any more capacity in future and creating new POs?  If so, I imagine that the price per GH & therefore per share will decrease accordingly.

This is certainly an interesting development which potentially changes the game significantly.
1171  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [IPO] CoinPal - Crypto-Currency Exchange & Profit Switching Mining Pool {NEW} on: July 03, 2014, 09:44:02 PM

But relentlessly negative attacks on people and organisations achieve nothing and can be upsetting and depressing for other members to read.

Let’s aim for what we can positively achieve together, of course that means sharing our pain, and sometimes our anger too, but we also want to maintain a positive focus on what we can do about our situation, and so I ask members to engage on this forum in the same constructive and progressive spirit with honour and respect.


+ Eleventy Billion!!
1172  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 03, 2014, 08:19:16 PM
Just rang the PI - No answer.  Left a voicemail for him to contact me.
1173  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 03, 2014, 12:53:21 PM
Thanks StakeHunter, I appreciate the feedback.  Hopefully we can get some confirmation on the ID soon!!
1174  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 03, 2014, 06:51:57 AM
Unfortunately the PI hasn't returned my emails since my last post here, which is odd, because previously he was very responsive.  I will try to get hold of him by phone tomorrow morning my time (+12hrs from now).  Unfortunately the timezone difference between me and him means that there is only 2-3hrs of overlap when I can ring him during business hours.

If this PI doesn't respond soon, I'll fall back to the other one I checked out earlier.  He's more expensive, but hopefully also more responsive!
1175  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 02, 2014, 10:22:29 AM
Thanks Deadwood, I pretty much agree with everything you're saying.

No contract was signed.

I'll definitely keep you posted on how things are going.
1176  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 01, 2014, 10:55:49 AM
I have decided that a Private Investigator located near the address on Tom's license is the best option for verifying his ID and have sent off the license details to him.  Hopefully we will hear back from him soon.
1177  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: June 30, 2014, 08:32:53 AM
Just a quick update on progress (or more accurately; lack thereof unfortunately).

Tom's ID Verification
I am waiting to hear back from one of the parties who can provide this service, and then I can make a decision on the best option moving forward.  Regardless, I will make a decision tomorrow night (my time; 24hrs from now) and then get this moving.  Once I give the go-ahead, we should hopefully get some results back fairly quickly (within 48hrs).

Domain Contact Information
The domain privacy company have now said that they require some kind of 'legal notification' before they will reveal any information, which is both disappointing, and contrary to what is written on their website.  So unfortunately we'll have to put this on the back-burner for now.

I'll keep you posted on my progress (or further lack thereof!) Smiley
1178  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: June 30, 2014, 01:45:22 AM
If you do approach him, make sure u have a video camera recording of anything thing he says.
Under either of the 2 scenarios (scam or SEC trouble) I highly doubt he would say anything in person or on camera if ya caught up w/ him. IMO, if it was SEC trouble then they should just pay the fine and refund us our money and then carry on their private trading outfit amongst themselves. How long do they think they're gonna lay low and avoid penalty if they're already on the radar? I bet this was all well and fine until they either got spooked or notified and then they just stopped the trading and won't resume or pay divs/refunds which would prove their involvement. So, they dipped on us and outside of siccing the authorities on them the show is over.

Well, whatever the scenario, I want to give them a chance to explain and I think we need to at least try to get some kind of answer.  Refusing to answer at all might actually still tell us something.
1179  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: June 30, 2014, 01:43:14 AM
Check the state laws about recording people, some state allow it with out consent some do not.

Thanks.  I imagine the PI would know this tho.
1180  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: June 29, 2014, 11:52:13 AM
If you do approach him, make sure u have a video camera recording of anything thing he says.

Yes, I was thinking that would be a good idea.
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