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1161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where's FOMO at? Tom Lee on: June 17, 2019, 11:20:46 PM
What would stop bitcoin from pumping to $20k this year if there would be hundreds of millions more in liquidations of short positions?
Nothing. If the price breaks the $10k mark easily and we pump straight to $12-$13k, then I am sure that people will be so confident that $20k is near, that they won't unload anything until we actually reach that price.

If people firmly hodl their coins waiting for $20k there will be so little spot supply available that it might only take a month or two to pump that high (obviously assuming it plays out like that).

I'm personally looking to cash out some profits somewhere around the $18k mark, just to make sure I'm selling before others start massively selling to front run those who wait for the $20k mark to be hit.
1162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is going for a Big correction on: June 17, 2019, 10:46:51 PM
I can tell you with full confidence that the price will either go up or down in the coming days....

I always found it quite fascinating how people can be so confident in their predictions, yet don't actually long or short to put their money where their mouth is. If OP did, then please show a screenshot of your open positions.

I personally don't expect anything from the market anymore because it doesn't seem to respect the technicals anymore. I'll keep hodling and see where we will top out and finally have that correction we can use to buy back.
1163  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-05] Gold Can’t Compete With Bitcoin As Form of Money on: June 17, 2019, 09:32:40 PM
To be a reliable store of value, gold needs to have a stable price.
Something being a store of value can be different from person to person depending on their time horizon. In most cases people hold gold for 5-10 years on average and tend to add more gold as time goes by.

If you're not touching your gold bars for 5-10 years, why does it matter that the price is stable? In fact, people buy gold because they think it will go up. I don't know many people holding gold just because they want a stable price.

But here, as you can see the prices have declined by almost 30%. If you take into account the inflation as well, then the decline is close to 40%.
And that's exactly why a stable price isn't something you should aim for. Gold has been a horrible store of value in my opinion. It didn't only perform poorly, but it couldn't even beat inflation in the more recent years.
1164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Is Not Decentralized on: June 17, 2019, 08:43:43 PM
Yeah, whales do hold a large amount of bitcoin and they can somewhat cause price manipulation.
One thing I noticed lately is that when people talk about whales, it mostly concerns manipulation. Fact is that by default, someone with deeper pockets than the majority of the market is obviously going to affect the price one way or another.

Slippage is the main reason for the price to make large moves, and while the ups and downs might be caused by whales intentionally moving the market, it's mostly not done for the purpose of manipulating the price.

If you buy or sell like 1000BTC at once you'll affect the price no matter what. People however don't mind it when the price goes up, but when the price goes down whales are suddenly accused of manipulating the market....
1165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ATMs should target developing and third world countries on: June 17, 2019, 08:04:41 PM
Lucky for those who have access to ATMs for cryptocurrency.
Quite funny that you say this because most people only complain about how steep the fees are (which they actually are) and how they only allow you to purchase relatively smaller amounts per time.

Working with exchanges often takes a lot of time. And although the transactions themselves occur quickly, it is sometimes difficult to wait for the withdrawal of funds withdrawal due to the abundance of requests.
Only the initial verification process takes time, where after that you can directly withdraw your funds. What may take some time is if you use your credit card to purchase Bitcoin through an exchange such as Coinbase.

Some times it can take like 3 days before they finally release the coins you bought, but then again, don't buy Bitcoin with money that isn't yours. I have never been a fan of investing in crypto in general with credit.
1166  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinbase Debit Card is now available in EU on: June 17, 2019, 06:48:08 PM
While EU is going hard on all the mixers and other Crypto related services, they seem very okay with Coinbase since it's backed by the FBI. It ensures smooth functioning of the service as every user and their payments are tracked which leaves no chance for anonymity or decentralization. Going Good my Young Padawan, keep buying those anti-crypto debit cards.
There is a difference between mixers that anybody can freely use and Coinbase as most regulated exchange in the space, so obviously, they will not make a problem out of Coinbase offering these services in Europe.

I'm personally not a fan of these crypto related debit cards but if there are people who do think it's of use to them, then they are free to use it. I just hope that they understand what they expose themselves to.

It's one thing to use your bank's debit card, but using one related to crypto makes things more risky than necessary. Who doesn't like being three-way spied on?  Cheesy
1167  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: SignalProfits? on: June 16, 2019, 11:49:13 PM
Do your own research and learn the technical analysis. Do not invest is someone opinion, you are responsible for your own decision and the capital is yours. Learn how to study the market movement and choose the tools that works for you over time.
People are either too lazy to learn technical analysis or have tried to but failed. People thinking about buying into signal groups tend to be those who failed trying to trade themselves.

If the above doesn't apply, people have likely been tricked into thinking that it's very profitable to buy the signals from whatever entity. Social media is full of shills pretending to have made thousands because of signals.

I have also noticed an influx of forex related signal groups popping up left and right. It might even be that some of these forex groups also run one or more related to crypto. It's a small world after all.
1168  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Excessive confidence in cryptocurrency trading. on: June 16, 2019, 11:09:08 PM
All you need is just be professional and don't get your emotion too attach in trading as that might be a big hindrance for your success.
You can be confident or even overconfident but you have to remain realistic so you can still accept and learn from your mistakes, what how it should be.
Being professional? I think being rational is the better term to use here. Even professional traders make rookie mistakes from to time because being rational isn't always easy in markets that aren't.

What I have noticed here is that people tend to treat trading similar to gambling when it comes to losing. People desperately try to gain back what they lost and focus too much on that until they lose it all.

Instead of reevaluating the market conditions, people apply a martingale sort of method where they increase their trade position after a loss and repeat that until they win or end up broke.
1169  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the global currency cannot be 100% internet based and if we will have one on: June 16, 2019, 10:27:55 PM
Look at euro for example, it is the same currency in many nations and all of them use the same currency without any problems at all, of course there are economic issues risen from the same currency thing but I am sure that is worth the loss in its profits. If 20+ nations could use the same currency and switch borders without care and basically live like a whole nation together then why not make it for the whole world ?
It's only a matter of time before the Euro fails. You're basically asking for problems if you use one currency in a continent that consists of very economically weak to strong countries.

Just look at what happened in Greece years ago. Currently we're not far away from seeing Italy follow the same path of destruction. If you think Greece was bad, then prepare yourself for what will happen to Europe when Italy implodes.

Direct result is that the weakest banks in Europe with significant exposure to debt in Italy will be triggered to implode too. Deutsche bank is an example of that and it has already a lot of problems without Italy threatening its existence.
1170  Economy / Economics / Re: Issuing loans in Bitcoin, how we could do it on: June 16, 2019, 09:48:04 PM
I feel like loans are the biggest reason why we are in this mess to begin with. Banks give you loan and expect you to pay it back with interest but if too many people do the same then there would be eventually someone who couldn't find the interest, there is a finite amount of money and unless you give out the exact amount expecting more back is the problem.
I think it's just part of how the financial system works. Even if loans aren't likely going to be paid back, you can always repack multiple potentially unprofitable loans and turn it into a financial instrument you can sell.

Banks have been doing that for decades and that's where things tend to go wrong. If you also add that governments might jump in financially, the larger banks don't have much to worry about.

I would say the risk for these banks is pretty low in that regard. It sucks that things are like this, but as long as there is demand for debt banks will continue to turn you into their slave at little to no risk.
1171  Economy / Speculation / Re: On short-term traders on: June 16, 2019, 08:53:49 PM
Long or short both is a guess and because the outcome cant be predicted 100% it is a gamble. Im with you on the loser part.
It depends on who's guessing because there is a difference between a blind yolo guess and an educated guess that's based on technical analysis where you long or short based on probabilities.

100% predictions don't exist, but based on probabilities you can make decisions that lead to profits on a longer term basis. If you're right even 6 out of 10 times with your educated guesses you're doing fine.

There are also patterns that you can exploit that do take longer to develop but are relatively speaking a safer guess. It just depends on what you look for at the end of the day.
1172  Economy / Speculation / Re: June 2019 - Bitcoin hits 10K, where next on: June 16, 2019, 08:23:51 PM
I don't think BTC can sustain 10k right now, there will be some corrections, and in a few days, for sure BTC will hit more than 10k
People also thought that the price wouldn't be able to sustain the $6000 mark but it did so effortlessly. It's safe to say that the bears don't stand a chance in this market despite people expecting a correction to happen.

If we think back, speculation about a severe correction started the moment we pumped over the $6000 mark and we kept pumping since then. People desperately hope that we correct because they want to buy lower.

It could very well be that the corrections have already happened but just not in the way people expected them to happen. Maybe that the bulls have no problems absorbing whatever sellers throw at them with how strong the demand is.
1173  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-15] Bitcoin Surpasses 1 Million Daily Active Addresses on: June 16, 2019, 07:00:20 PM
I'm not sure if there is much useful data to extract from active addresses. I mean, it's cool that it's going up but isn't that just a reflection of the increase in price? More price action is more active addresses.

Dogecoin is pretty strongly represented too. I like how firm that community is and they really seem to have a good time using it as micro transaction tool, and that without the toxic mentality.
What surprised me is that Dogecoin isn't even listed on Binance. Imagine what it will do to that ecosystem with Binance liquidity causing the price and the security of that network to increase.

It also functions as real world example that you don't need bullet proof security and decentralization to send low value transactions back and forth efficiently. If it works then it works.
1174  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin believers/investors are foolish or low IQ people ? on: June 16, 2019, 12:11:21 AM
I know that big investors only choose Bitcoin as a long-term investment and do not always look at its chart or price every day, so they never complain.
It does make sense if you think about it. If you have a lot of money you also have a lot to lose, so you automatically try to look for the safest asset to invest in for the long term, which in this case is Bitcoin.

I must however say that there is a difference in mentality between legacy investors and those who already have been into crypto. For most legacy investors even Bitcoin is a risky asset.

The most we can expect from legacy investors for now is that they allocate 1% of their capital to Bitcoin. 1% won't hurt them would it go to zero tomorrow, but will yield massive profits in the next 5-10 years if it does what we expect it will do.
1175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Market Analysis (Price Action). on: June 15, 2019, 11:01:27 PM
Shorts are mooning along with the price. On Bitfinex, they've risen 30% from the low a week ago. This is a good sign for continued upward pressure.
Do you think the current setup might trigger a massive short squeeze? We haven't had one of these in a long time--all we have had so far were mini short squeezes due to the relatively neutral short/long ratio.

I still think that the psychological $10k mark will result in a brutal selloff the moment we're about to test it for the first time. Going from 4 figure to 5 figure prices is such an important difference psychologically that I expect fierce resistance.

The only thing I find a bit doubtful is that the volumes are heavily lagging behind despite the rush up we have gone through in the last couple of days. People are either waiting for a big move or it's largely thin bot activity we see happen.
1176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Which way will it go? Which trend will it follow? on: June 15, 2019, 10:05:16 PM
For example there are some news that bitcoin banned in India and people who is having any crypto currencies will be punished with 10 years of jail but it still the draft passed,no official statement from the government.
You can thank news outlets and noobs for participating in this fud circus. The market however didn't seem to care about it, which means that people know it's fud or India has no meaningful impact on the overall crypto market.

The price has yet again surprised people with how it looked to be on its way down, but it popped right back up and is heading towards the $9000 mark again. You got to love how this market keeps trolling people.

I legit enjoy seeing how so called experts guess wrong time on time again. I'm sure they don't put their money where their mouth is, which is a good thing for them, else they would be broke "experts" by now.
1177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal? on: June 15, 2019, 08:03:23 PM
instead of focusing on what may or may not happen with some government that doesn't even concern you, it is better if you start learning more about bitcoin and its mission for decentralization and cutting off the hands of the middlemen who are always intruding in our financial matters and have their hand in our pockets.
then you will slowly realize that the answer to your question doesn't even matter.
OP probably doesn't care one bit because most newbies are fully invested in shitcoins they don't bother to withdraw from exchanges such as Binance. It's not for nothing that Binance holds over $10 billion in user funds.

I do like it that newbies ask questions similar to these because that's what average joes think about when it concerns Bitcoin. How and what if governments start banning it? I noticed this around me as well.

There are various phases people have to go through in order to appreciate what Bitcoin is.

# buying altcoins and realizing they're shit.
# investing in ICO/IEOs and lose a lot of money.
# get trolled by their bank or government.

Maybe I'm missing another phase, but you get the point.
1178  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-15] IRS turning its attention to recreational bitcoin investors on: June 15, 2019, 07:05:59 PM
What kind of attack are we talking about? I would be very surprised if there weren't government adversaries on the network, for the same reason they run TOR exit nodes. They're sniffing for network data like IP addresses to accompany their blockchain analysis efforts. They're working to identify our wallet clusters. The IRS is very interested in identifying our wallets, I'm sure.
Attack as in making it illegal to run a node. It could be on a corporate level where datacenters are no longer allowed to have their clients run them, or on a level where ISPs are cutting off nodes of you and me at home.

And yes, I'm sure there are a wide variety of agencies sniffing around in the network to gather information about money flows, who and where nodes, etc. They probably have been here longer than most people know about Bitcoin.
1179  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-15] IRS turning its attention to recreational bitcoin investors on: June 15, 2019, 05:28:32 PM
One day they'll be going after Bitcoin nodes.
I think that may be playing a role when either LN gets integrated in full node clients, or features similar to coinjoin. They need a reason to attack nodes, and right now I'm happy to say that they don't have it yet.

US based users have always been hit harder than users from most other countries and that on several fronts, especially those in New York. The regulations businesses are subject to to serve users in New York is just retarded.

I hope this will stimulate to have more exchanges format and calculate what people owe in tax. Most users don't seem to have much experience with tax reports so there is a high probability that they mess up somewhere.
1180  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-14] Twitter & Square CEO Plan to Boost Bitcoin Development on: June 15, 2019, 04:42:49 PM
BSV and Bcash cultists will say that this is the proof that Bitcoin is centralized, that Core devs and Blockstream have sold out, that Twitter now owns Bitcoin and so on. And that would be so ironic when you consider the fact just how centralized those shitcoins are.
Perhaps Twitter is making the first steps in shaping Bitcoin development - in the future many companies that want to work with Bitcoin will support its developmnet, just like today companies support open-source software that they use, and as the result everyone is benefiting from it.
Ironic indeed. BSV and Bcash are so centralized that both chains have been reorged more than once, and people only found about it after a while because news outlets started reporting about it. What a shitshow that is.

Bitcoin being attacked by these scammers without result just shows how strong this ecosystem really is. No matter how many times they call their shitcoins the real Bitcoin, it only has an opposite effect.

Overall, the more developers are contributing the better it is for Bitcoin, but more developers also means that there is an increased probability of friction between developers because one developer isn't the other.
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