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1001  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Disrupting Crypto Exchanges on: July 13, 2019, 12:33:19 PM
Have you considered that they use these exchanges because they don't have any other choice?
In some cases people don't have a choice, but the main things to take into consideration are the level of liquidity an exchange offers, and how easy it is to deposit and more importantly withdraw fiat.

If the above is in order, people will take even a relatively higher fee on average for granted just because of that. I don't think anybody here will use a low fee exchange when aspects such as liquidity and fiat withdrawals suck.

Are there exchanges that don't charge percentage-based fees?
As far as I know every exchange in crypto charges a percentage based fee. I have only seen legacy brokers offering stock trading and such work with fixed $5-$10 fees regardless of the amount traded.
1002  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: All bitcoin addresses with Huobi on: July 13, 2019, 12:02:18 PM
Aside from walletexplorer I tend to use: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

Huobi currently is ranked 2nd after Binance with 151k BTC in their main cold wallet. As for their hot wallets and client deposit addresses, these are a bit more tricky because not every one of them is tagged as being a Huobi address.

I do wonder though, what's the incentive behind knowing their addresses? Figuring out who or what makes a
significant enough deposit or withdrawal and trade based on that information?
1003  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any way of getting money from empty bitcoin addresses other than clam on: July 12, 2019, 11:38:19 PM
all the other coins COMBINED don't even come to $70 for every BTC you owned at the fork. I wager much, MUCH less after fees from exchanges, if you can even have enough to withdraw at most of those exchanges listing the fork!
I still hold some BTG and the rest of the fork circus that came after it. I don't find it worthwhile to start moving my coins from one private key to the other at this point, but that may change during the next bull run of hell.

It's insane looking at how some of these forks have been extremely generous rewarding Bitcoin holders. Bcash was like $4000 at one point, where BTG peaked around the $500 mark.

There was also byteball that at peak of the 2017 bull run would have resulted in a $500 dividend per Bitcoin. Warren Buffett says Bitcoin doesn't create anything, well, it has been more than rewarding in 2017 with all the forks and airdrops.  Cheesy
1004  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-11] Trump apparently knows what Bitcoin is, and he doesn’t like it on: July 12, 2019, 10:59:07 PM
Also, I think in reality Trump doesn't even understand in the slightest what crypto is, he probably asked some of his advisors and repeated their words. But this doesn't mean that he will change his mind.
My thought too. Anything he doesn't seem to be overly interested in is pushed to his advisors to handle or research it. If that's actually the case here, he just isn't impressed even though he saw it reach the headlines.

If he isn't going to dive into it himself I doubt he will ever say anything positive about Bitcoin. His traditional and government supporting advisors will do anything to make Bitcoin look bad. Intentionally or unintentionally. The result remains the same.

I do like the media attention that his tweet unleashed. The funny thing is that his tweets are capable of making stock prices bounce up or down, while Bitcoin didn't even flinch aside from its own volatile nature.
1005  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-12] Fed Chairman Powell: Bitcoin Is A Store of Value Like Gold on: July 12, 2019, 10:17:13 PM
At 300-400K confirmed transactions per day, it's really not accurate to keep pushing this narrative that "no one uses bitcoin for payments." If that were true, Bitcoin's value proposition would be much weaker.
Nocoiners don't seem to care-- their narrative is that nearly all transactions are fake, where the minority of transactions that seem organic are related to criminal activity. Roubini and Peter Schiff are the loudest.

That being said, I like how Bitcoin is being put in the same category as gold when it comes to being a store of value. I didn't expect that to come from the federal reserve chairman. It's definitely a positive for Bitcoin.

There were days where central bank presidents referred to it as a gamble, fraud, criminal currency, etc. I'm sure some of them are still not seeing it or purposely trashing it, but we're going forward and that's the only thing that counts.
1006  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitfinex and Tether recent filling affects BTC Price on: July 12, 2019, 02:31:19 PM
Or, use the printed Tethers to buy Bitcoin, print more, pump Bitcoin, and then sell Bitcoin for real US dollars, and THEN pay you back.
I'm fairly sure this has been happening for a long time. It's such an easy way to obtain fiat that it's hard to think of a reason why it shouldn't happen. If nobody finds out about it they can do this for ever.

The only thing investors cashing out care about is that they get paid, and as long as there are only a few investors cashing out every now and then, Bitfinex will be able to keep this up without drawing too much unwanted attention.

They already admitted buying Bitcoin so the next logical step is selling it on exchanges such as Coinbase and Kraken to withdraw dollars.
1007  Economy / Economics / Re: The problem bitcoin solves on: July 12, 2019, 11:25:10 AM
In other words, if you are sending 1M dollar worth of Bitcoin, you can typically wait and you can pay (actually, if you pay, you don't have to wait)
People moving values of that order will pay up for the fees without a problem, and we're seeing that already-- multi million dollar transactions are sent with fees ridiculously higher than the recommended fee.

It makes sense as well because when you're about to settle a transaction with someone, you don't want to be a cheapskate by including a low fee while a dump would wipe out like $100k of your transaction value in minutes.

It's better to 'lose' $10-$15 in fees and have your transaction included in a timely manner than to lose a lot of value due to a dump because you were trying to save a few bucks.
1008  Economy / Economics / Re: Bill Holter and Jim Sinclair: Gold $87000 per Ounce at Least on: July 12, 2019, 10:21:40 AM
People should understand that just like there are so called moon boys in the world of crypto, there similarly are moon boys in the world of precious metals. Another similarity is that we both support a decentralized form of money.

Overall, people regardless of what asset they own, are looking to hype up their bags-- the bias of our position is obvious just like how the bias of people not holding crypto is obvious.

I'm not a fan of precious metals myself but see what people who do like it see in it. Gold has established itself as money (being in a not so usable way), a store of value and safe haven in times of economical difficulties.
1009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Will Move up 25 -30x Faster Than Gold Says, Max Keiser on: July 11, 2019, 07:10:53 PM
You can't go wrong by saying Bitcoin will outperform x or y legacy asset. It's pretty much the same as me saying that x shitcoin with a $25 million market cap will greatly outperform Bitcoin during a bull run.

Max Keiser to me is just one of the many delusional perma bulls who are only out to contribute to hype rather than helping Bitcoin grow fundamentally. His current statement is a desperate attempt to reach mainstream media.

He recently found it necessary to tore up a $50 bill to "prove" how useless fiat is. He could have donated it to a charity or bought Bitcoin with it. He has no respect for value nor the people who don't have any money. Retard.
1010  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese Media Is All Praises For Bitcoin on: July 11, 2019, 06:25:00 PM
It proves that Chinese people still want to use crypto and no matter if their government doesn't like crypto, they cannot stop people from using crypto.
People for a long time considered China to no longer play a role, but it always has through alternative ways. A lot of Chinese Bitcoiners have been using exchanges such as Huobi and OKEx, and even some Japanese ones.

I do wonder how long these people will be able to continue doing so with how it gets harder and harder to use an exchange without verification. It really sucks because it severely limits people's freedom.

I'm sure that it won't take long (at most a year) from today before Binance no longer allows people to freely sign up and withdraw their coins. Binance has no choice but to become compliant so it's a ticking time bomb.
1011  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-05-21] Bitfinex Argues Why Judge Should Dismiss NYAG Case in Latest Case on: July 11, 2019, 02:16:48 PM
One of Bitfinex's cleverest moves has been to deprogram the majority from attempting to turn it into actual dollars.  
I don't think Bitfinex did that on purpose, but they won't complain about not having to buy back something that might not be backed at all by handing people over actual dollars. The distribution of Tether happens naturally.

Most of the Tether ends up being sent to exchanges such as Binance, Huobi and OKEx to buy Bitcoin and other coins with. These exchanges directly happen to be the biggest holders of Tether by far.

Once people have bought their Bitcoin those on the other side of the trade hold Tether but most likely have nothing to do with Bitfinex. This props up prices because people are always motivated to buy back Bitcoin at one point.
1012  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-05-21] Bitfinex Argues Why Judge Should Dismiss NYAG Case in Latest Case on: July 11, 2019, 12:18:47 PM
Exactly. Tether works well until the regulators get to it
The get to it part is where things get a bit weird. I honestly would have expected regulators to whoop Tether like a year or two ago already. How many alarm bells needs to ring before they stand up?

The SEC even approved the acquisition of Poloniex where Tether was allowed to be listed as fiat pair. If regulators were seriously considering to whoop Tether they would have forced Poloniex to drop Tether.

If that wasn't enough, we have people using Tether while they know it's shady but don't care because it provides a useful utility within crypto. Tether has survived so much shit that I don't see it bust at all.
1013  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: YOBIT blocked my account just for messages! :-( Help! on: July 10, 2019, 11:54:59 PM
Unless if the coin is only listed on their exchange but for me, I will never trade again and use their service just for the safety of my coins.
That's mostly why people stick to Yobit. Another thing is that there is an investment box people seem to like, and then there are the pumps Yobit announces from time to time.

For most people Yobit is an exchange to avoid, but there are so many newbies entering crypto that have no clue about how much of a shit exchange it is, that they will keep using it until Yobit locks them out of their account.

Yobit has generated around $36 million in volume in the last 24 hours, which just shows that they are still in demand. https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/yobit/
1014  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why does Warren Buffett hate bitcoin? on: July 10, 2019, 11:09:27 PM
We all have our own way of interpreting opportunities and trend, and Bitcoin is apparently something unconvincing to this old man's taste. 
Yes. It might have been different if he wasn't as wealthy as he is right now, but at his age and level of wealth it's all about value preservation, and not investing in something being so risky. Most people here have problems understanding that.

He has stated more than once that he likes to invest in stocks that allow him to earn passive income in form of dividends. If you combine the dividends plus the long term growth of these stocks, it's a winning investment strategy.

I'm sure that by the time Bitcoin has gone up and matured to where it's on gold's level, most large holders will follow a similar path, while the younger and less wealthy people will expose themselves to more risk because there is less to lose.
1015  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC Dominance on CoinMarketCap on: July 10, 2019, 09:58:22 PM
I would have love it should bitcoin dominance reduce to 20% but people have more trust on it.
Are you kidding me? That's the most stupid thing I have seen someone post in a long time. Bitcoin's market cap dominance is exactly where it should be. It reflects how useless the majority of the other coins are.

2017 was a crazy year with how the worst possible average joes entered the market inflating the price of EVERY single altcoin. You could throw a dart without looking and that coin would make you sick profits.

These yolo gamblers rekt themselves hard and have left the market. We're much better off without imbeciles turning this ecosystem into a pile of rubbish. Good riddance I would say.
1016  Economy / Speculation / Re: This Is Your Last Chance to Buy the Dip Before Bitcoin Pierces $20,000 on: July 10, 2019, 08:49:36 PM
Volatility would always be the primary enemy on this crypto market and it cant really be avoided for sometimes not to panic when
you see that you holdings on usd value is plummeting.
People like to see the price pump hard, but that's only possible when there is an intense level of volatility in the market, and this volatility results in more volume being generated.

It's something this market needs-- we have had enough examples of how the lack of volatility lead to lower volumes and logically a decline in the price. Stability definitely doesn't help crypto in today's market of speculation.

Most people panic selling are either all in or have over-invested. In both cases people monitor the price every minute and are ready to sell if the price happens to go down.

Panic selling can easily be avoided when you dollar cost average every two weeks or month regardless of what the price is. A dump means more satoshis for your money and a lower overall buying price.
1017  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin will correct back under $10k or are 4 digits gone for good? on: July 10, 2019, 07:43:15 PM
I am not saying you sell it all. Maybe make some profits out of it so that you can be ready to buy back if the price turns south.
Just leave some to avoid a larger regret. It wont hurt that bad if a sudden increase also happens.
You're absolutely right, but it doesn't always work out well. I'm sure that people have done so already well below the current levels, but have been disappointed because the price went up way higher.

I think the main point is for people to educate themselves on how a market works on a more technical level. Selling, even when it is to secure profits, isn't always the best options and might result in more harm than good.

It sucks having sold at $6000 thinking to have done a great job, to not long after that see how the price keeps pumping further. This is a hodl market until we're seeing clear signs of a bearish reversal.
1018  Economy / Economics / Re: If a pyramid runs forever, is it still a pyramid? on: July 10, 2019, 07:06:51 PM
Some cloud miners may fit in that category. Not necessarily because they will last for ever, but more so because of how some of the bigger ones (Genesis Mining for example) used the funds to buy mining hardware.

I'm sure they will eventually have to pull the plug because of how unprofitable it becomes for them, but as long as we go through bull markets they might be able to last long enough to not bust during a bear market.

Another thing is that they could use people's funds to speculate with on the market, which if it goes well for them might help bring in some more profits they can use to pay out mining contracts with. They have several options.
1019  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin help rebuild Venezuela? - Darb Finance on: July 10, 2019, 05:57:07 PM
I have always found incredible how politicians can destroy countries that are so rich and with so many natural resources, how they could crash the economy when they have the largest reserves of oil in the world? An effective politician could even find a way to run a small government just based on the oil profits and tourism.
Corruption. If the highest positioned politicians are in it, which they are in countries such as Venezuela, it happens almost as if it is natural. You either choose to participate or pay a hefty price for not participating.

The government there is one of the highest paying employers by far, so what is the alternative? Not many are brave enough to go against Maduro even if they don't agree with his way of "leading" the country.

In the western world you have so much more wealth and freedom available that it's hard to imagine someone would do that, but in these countries it's just the way it is. People are and will remain stuck in a shitty situation.
1020  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which platform for instantly buying & selling bitcoin at the lowest fees? on: July 10, 2019, 12:33:44 AM
However, I believe coinbase is also good and it has a lot of clients. You just have to do a KYC process and you will be free to trade.
In this case it's important to seperate Coinbase as their more retail driven platform and Coinbase Pro, because Coinbase charges crazy high fees, while on their Pro platform fees are more in line with the other exchanges.

I kinda get why people look for exchanges with low fees, but most people aren't actively day trading where fees play a role of importance. If you're just doing some buy low sell high type of investing 0.1-0.2% fees are acceptable.

I haven't seen an exchange other than Coinbase overcharging people in fees. It made a lot of their retail clients switch to their Pro platform because of how significant the difference in fees is.
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