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1161  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin breaks all time high and surges past $5,000 on: October 15, 2017, 10:12:26 PM
will this fork play out as free money as usually when bitcoins are kept in exchanges or is it specifically for bitcoins in wallets one possess it's private keys.
That will depend on the exchange, to this day some exchanges have not given to their customers their BCH, so you will need to look at the policy of the exchange regarding the nearest fork that is bitcoin gold, if the exchange is going to give you the coins then it may be a good idea to leave your coins there to trade them immediately for bitcoin.
1162  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I stop Buying BTC? on: October 15, 2017, 10:09:18 PM
Should I stop buying BTC for above market value or should I start paying the listed price? I support Bitcoin and still pay 5k a BTC does anyone see bitcoin going back up?

 By this time, you should stop buying bitcoin because the price is high. Wait for the price to become low again then sell when it goes up again
Bad advice! Buy at dips, buy anytime you wish to buy cause you may never even see that value again. I learnt my lessons some years back when I was waiting for the best price and I was never able to buy at that present price till today as it kept rising in value until I just settled for the period I bought in eventually and it is still obviously paying me till today even at the price that I considered too much as at then.
This is the issue with people, they are always looking for the best moment to get into bitcoin not realizing that the best moment is right now, if you do not get in, you are going regret it when bitcoin reaches a price that no one thought it was possible, it was not long ago that people were wondering if bitcoin will reach 1000 dollar again and now we are close to 5000.

When bitcoin price going up they will hope that price will down. Then bitcoin price was decrease still they are waiting for more dips and become worried because they think if they will buy at that dips they think price will decrease more. And now that price is increasing, you will see people regrets that they didn't able to buy lol.

How can they put an end to this regrets if they don't have guts to face the risks.
I could not have said that better myself, some people just lack the guts to take their chances, bitcoin is a new technology, so it is very obvious there are going to be risks, for example bitcoin could be banned tomorrow but it could go mainstream too, I’m investing in bitcoin thinking that at some point we are going to reach mainstream adoption and so the value is going to skyrocket.
1163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do Altcoins really have a future? on: October 15, 2017, 10:02:06 PM
Many altcoins have no future. Only some of them have no prospects to live a long time. But who knows the future? All believe in a long life of bitcoin. While no one can be sure of this. Altcoins can be compared with flowers. Every spring they bloom. Encouraging us to fall and then to die in spring to bloom again.
Most of the coins that have been created have disappeared, that is why it is important to look for coins with original ideas, if a coin is noting but a copy of another but with a few addons then it is very likely that coins is not going to go very far, just look at bitcoin cash.

It is not disappeared dude. Most of ivo tokens are been introduced to here and some of the ICO owner cheat us after the succession of the pre sale or post token sale to the distribution.
Alts like BCH and ETH are having potential to compete in altcoin list.
If you go with the bad alts means please do research about the white paper details before investing to it.
I stand by what I said, are there many coins that have a future and are good coins? Yes, but for every coin that has a future there are 5 that are not worth a thing, if we were to look at all the coins that exist today and see if those coins still exists in five years I think we will see that more than half of those coins will be dead at that point.
1164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Small investors now is your time! on: October 14, 2017, 06:00:59 PM
So now that the price is dropping, do not fret as it's the perfect time to buy! with bitcoin once again in the 3000's $100 will go much farther now than it did just a few weeks ago. You can possibly even buy your way into the larger investment level right now and ride the wave! Capitalize  on this moment to double down. Even if it lowers a bit more it's still in our favor. because as soon as this insecurity is gone Bitcoin will make another run and my guess is that it would hit 6000+. Especially with bankers buying it up while denouncing it publicly. Getting to your first coin is a milestone and will allow you/me/all of us to participate in the community at a whole new level and from a new perspective.

Act now!

Thoughts and criticisms welcome.

Update:
Thank you all for your responses and support!

I made a continuation of the ideas of this forum covering broader topics and trends concerning small investors. Please post there now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2219459.0
The right time for me to get bitcoin, I just joined this business and do not have bitcoin, so now I will be diligent to collect bitcoin
You need to act fast the forks are coming and you want to get as much bitcoin as you can before those forks happens, because then you will be able to sell those coins and get even more bitcoin for free, however if you do not want to rush it then you can take you time and learn how to trade and how to invest and you will eventually make money with those two methods.
1165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BITCOIN GOLD IS A JOKE ??????????????????????????????? on: October 14, 2017, 05:58:08 PM
at the end of september we get the news that there will be hardfork for BTC, which is named BTC Gold.
and the effect, the price of BTC rose very high. because people buy BTC to get free BTC Gold.

but the oddity is, hardfork stay a few days away, but there has been no official statement of any market that will support it.
Unlike the BCH hardfork, which is where a month before Hardfork happened, there are already many markets that support BCH.

I wonder if BTC gold is just a joke? made to raise the btc price?
Bitcoin gold is a joke but this was not done to make the price of bitcoin to go up, this was done by some people that want to change the mining algorithm and replace it for something that will need graphic cards, that will only change who is at the top of the mining world if they were successful but they are going to fail since no one supports the fork.
1166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How many coins should you HODL? on: October 14, 2017, 05:47:33 PM
There shouldn't be any cap on the number of tokens you are holding provided they all meet tour investment strategy, but some people prefer to cap them base on their position on the coinmarketcap and their trading volume which I think it is important factor to consider for big investors
Correct the only issue is that we are able to monitor our coins effectively, I do not have that many coins and to monitor them can be a pain and can be very exhausting so I cannot imagine how those people that have many coins can do it, maybe that is all what they do in the day.
1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Strategy for Buying Alt coin on: October 14, 2017, 05:36:36 PM
I see many members talk about the altcoin

I want to share my idea about the good strategy for buying altcoin

I think you must divide your supply into four groups based on the prices

1-Group one ( >100 $)

I think the best coin in this group is Ethereum

2-Group two (10< <100 $)

I believe in this group NEO and Litecoin has a good potential

3-Group three (1< <10 $)

I believe the Gamecredit, Komodo, Waves and OmiseGO coins

4-Group four ( <1$)

here I think DGB, XVG, SC and Burst are good choices

4-Group ...... (Just for fun Smiley)

Reddcoin and Dogecoin

What's your idea my friends?



The strategy is wrong, people divide their investments depending on the risk but using the price is a mistake, look at the market cap not the price, by using that you could create the next classification.

Group 1, more than 1 billion in market cap.
Group 2, less than 1 billion but more than 100 million.
Group 3, less than 100 million but more than 10 million.
Group 4, less than 10 million.
1168  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where to invest my Bitcoins? on: October 13, 2017, 05:47:26 PM
You can just start trading and then "learrn and earn".

In my point of view buying bitcoins is already an investment.You don't have to do anything thing just simply keep you bitcoin for some years then it will gives you high profits.

Investing money in bitcoins is the best thing to do but holding bitcoins will never help you in growing your coins so if you want to grow your coins you need to take a risk of investing your bitcoins and the best place to invest is in altcoins where you have many opportunities to make profits and multiply your coins as investing bitcoins on any investment site involves huge risk.
The only problem is that those that invest in altcoin most of the time want fast profits since they do not want to hold alts for too long, because they fear the alt is going to disappear or something, so holding alts is not as easy as holding bitcoin since you know that bitcoin is going to survive no matter what.
1169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: STRATIS Pumping again...be careful on: October 13, 2017, 05:27:39 PM
Stratis is already too high. I dont thin its going to pump again in one year. Stratis has given 600x againt dollar from its initial ico price. Its time to o5her alt coin to pump. I think next altcoin to get pump is cindicator. It is very good fundamental project.and really usefull for trade.
And even if it pumps it is not going to be anything close to what the early investors already got, when I see a coin that already pumped like that I just move on, there is no point in investing in a coin like that, you are just going to lose your money, especially if you invest right now with the current price that is too high.
1170  Economy / Economics / Re: Are cryptocurrencies better than regular currency on: October 13, 2017, 05:25:10 PM
If bitcoin is used worldwide i consider it a yes.  But now, a large portion of the population is not familiar with it especially in those in 3rd world country like mine.  Tangible cash is still consider the best. We can use bitcoin in our country if we convert it to cash.
Bitcoin is not going to be adopted with the same speed in all the countries of the world, most of the time the richer countries adopt new technologies first and then poorer countries follow them, so take advantage that not may people in your country know about bitcoin and make money that way.
1171  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin successfully defeated China on: October 13, 2017, 05:22:40 PM
Bitcoin has pumped back to $4000 and up, without no chinese markets involved, proving that we can survive government bans. I am very confident now in a strong recovery to an ATH. Once we reach ATH in a post-Chinese ban environment, we are going to prove to the world that bans on Bitcoin are useless, so they will either join us or keep getting exposed.

I predict chinese exchanges will eventually be back under regulated licenses, pumping the price even further. Get in now or cry later.
China is slowly understanding that the more they get out of bitcoin the bigger it grows, they thought that with their tactics they could scare people away but instead the community is becoming even more supportive of bitcoin and now we are seeing the consequences of that trust, another all time high.
1172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: should i invest in ETH & LTC? on: October 13, 2017, 05:20:02 PM
hi!
i am using BTC from almost 2 years  and now i want to invest in other cryptocurrencies i just want to know is it profitable to invest in ETH and LTC because these are the fastest growing currencies after BTC,just need your suggestion about it.
It is difficult to tell, bitcoin at the moment is very expensive so there is not a reason to get out of bitcoin especially since we are going to receive airdropped coins, but after that and if the price of those coins is still as cheap as right now then I think those two are a great investment for anyone willing to hold them for the long term, maybe a couple of years or more.
1173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why I'm selling all my alt coins and putting everything into Golos on: October 12, 2017, 04:20:03 PM
Golden rule - Never put all your eggs in one basket. Try to remember this!
It is incredible how people forget this simple lesson, and this applies not only to bitcoin and altcoins but to everything, most people have most of their net worth in their houses when the real estate bubble busted many people lost all what they had, if they instead bought a cheaper home paid it in full and saved the rest in gold or something, they will still have been affected by the crisis but they will be in a better financial shape than those that invested everything in their houses.
1174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Which one to buy? Stocks Houses Gold or Bitcoin or Bonds? on: October 12, 2017, 04:16:41 PM
If you have a lot of bitcoin in your wallet for sure you will earn a lot of profit in the future. So if you have extra money in your pocket its better if you buy bitcoin now. Dont choose other, bitcoin gives you opportunity to earn big and fast. Other bsusiness or investment needd more time or few years before you earn . Bitcoin as of now is indemand investment of all people who are willing to earn money.

Interesting points. This is also early adoption phase as there's approximately <1% world population engaging in Bitcoin. Bitcoin will see higher highs every 5 years, period.
True bitcoin is growing this much with such a low amount of the people getting into bitcoin, once the rest of the population follows there is no limit to the price bitcoin is going to reach and this is proven by the amazing year that has been 2017 for bitcoin and altcoins, and it seems bitcoin still has the strength to go up in value once more before the end of the year.
1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Why Ethereum around 300 while Bitcoin had recovered to 4400 on: October 12, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
I have noticing that Ethereum is stagnant between 290 - 300 . While Bitcoin had sureged 500 upwards in last 10 days.

I do not see any momentum evenethough there are so many tokens are using ethereum tokens  ERC20 platform for their ICO and listing.


The banning of icos coming form china affect ethereum a lot more than it affected bitcoin, how many icos are running over bitcoin and how many are running over ETH? You have your answer, besides many icos gave bonuses to those that bought with ETH and the sparked demand, but with icos banned in china the demand for those bonuses has decreased as well.
The only people who really care about the China crackdown are those that run the Chinese government.
People care that is why you saw the price to get that low, but after sometime passes and the uncertainty in the market ends then things return to normal, people were shocked and scared but after some days bitcoin regained its value and now the value has reached an all time high.
1176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think LTC go up soon? on: October 12, 2017, 04:10:25 PM
I do not know if it will increase again. because now ETH-based ICO coin is very much. I think LTC will decrease
LTC has a tendency to not move much but then suddenly it goes up a lot, you need to be lucky to get that pump, many people invest in litecoin for years and it does not move at all and then they move their money to other coins with more action and then they miss the pump.
1177  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoins and Bankers on: October 12, 2017, 04:07:43 PM
Bitcoin and bankers do not go together that is for certain. Bankers are the reason Bitcoin came out. Quantitative easing just won't cut it anymore and it was never a good solution to begin with in the first place.
Exactly, most of the time people think of bitcoin as a currency, but this is a mistake, this is why one of the most famous saying about bitcoin is that allows you to be your own bank, and that is accurate, with bitcoin we do not need banks anymore, that does not mean they are going to disappear completely but to many people those institutions are going to become obsolete.
1178  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I stop Buying BTC? on: October 11, 2017, 06:14:55 PM
Should I stop buying BTC for above market value or should I start paying the listed price? I support Bitcoin and still pay 5k a BTC does anyone see bitcoin going back up?

 By this time, you should stop buying bitcoin because the price is high. Wait for the price to become low again then sell when it goes up again
Bad advice! Buy at dips, buy anytime you wish to buy cause you may never even see that value again. I learnt my lessons some years back when I was waiting for the best price and I was never able to buy at that present price till today as it kept rising in value until I just settled for the period I bought in eventually and it is still obviously paying me till today even at the price that I considered too much as at then.
This is the issue with people, they are always looking for the best moment to get into bitcoin not realizing that the best moment is right now, if you do not get in, you are going regret it when bitcoin reaches a price that no one thought it was possible, it was not long ago that people were wondering if bitcoin will reach 1000 dollar again and now we are close to 5000.
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do Altcoins really have a future? on: October 11, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
Many altcoins have no future. Only some of them have no prospects to live a long time. But who knows the future? All believe in a long life of bitcoin. While no one can be sure of this. Altcoins can be compared with flowers. Every spring they bloom. Encouraging us to fall and then to die in spring to bloom again.
Most of the coins that have been created have disappeared, that is why it is important to look for coins with original ideas, if a coin is noting but a copy of another but with a few addons then it is very likely that coins is not going to go very far, just look at bitcoin cash.
1180  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: BUY high sell low ? on: October 11, 2017, 06:07:12 PM
or may be buy low sell high ?

Lot of noobs traders , don't control their emotions and make worst mistakes : buy at high price and sell at lowest

how to control this ? = put orders (buy/sell) and close the platform

It's easy, don't easily get panic when the price suddenly dropped. just wait and hold. The time will come.
This is not easy for a newbie trader, there is a strong temptation to sell your holdings and stop the bleeding but as we know if you are invested in a solid coin then we know that coin is going to regain its value after some time so the only thing we can do at that moment is to keep holding our coins.
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